IRC log for #tomcat on 20101003

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02:09.58ovrflw0xhello which is the "best" book with lots of code examples covering this topic?  it starts with sockets and then covers HTTP servers, server-side scripting, session tracking, and multi-tier web applications. Several frameworks are introduced but the emphasis is on JEE (servlet containers, beans, JSP) and its design patterns.
02:44.25jasonbovrflw0x: As far as I know, there isn't one of those.  That's about three books, maybe four.
02:44.52ovrflw0xjasonb, how about only jsp/servlets book?
02:45.08ovrflw0xjasonb, is learning from "study guide" a good idea?
02:45.23jasonbovrflw0x: you can get the O'Reilly Java Network Programming book to start off your list, then the O'Reilly Java Servlet Programming book to cover the Servlets and JSP topics.. Java EE is way larger than just those.
02:46.04ovrflw0xjasonb, how about using a study guide instead?
02:46.32jasonbovrflw0x: I'm not sure what you mean by a study guide.  Is that in paper form?  Where did you get it, and who is the publisher?  Is it a person?
02:47.34ovrflw0xhttp://www.amazon.com/Certified-Component-Developer-310-081-310-082/dp/0072258810 jasonb
02:48.52jasonbovrflw0x: You could start there, but it won't be the simplest way to learn these technologies.
02:49.04ovrflw0xwhy?
02:49.26jasonbovrflw0x: If you really wan to start with socket programming, and work your way into writing HTTP servers, then you should read the O'Reilly Java Networking book.
02:49.57ovrflw0xwhat's so special information given in Java ntwrkg?
02:50.59jasonbIf you want to start learning all about servlets and JSP, then it's the O'Reilly Java Servlet Programming book.  These books are the simplest explanations by top experts.  They're really clearly written, and teach you only what is practical.
02:52.17jasonbThen, when you want to learn Tomcat, specifically, then read our Tomcat: The Definitive Guide (O'Reilly).
03:01.19ovrflw0xjasonb, how about this book? http://www.amazon.com/Java-Servlet-Programming-Bible-CD-ROM/dp/0764548395
03:03.07jasonbovrflw0x: I wouldn't recommend it, no.  It is very old at this point.
03:04.05ovrflw0xbut it does cover the basic understanding and important details right?
03:04.36ovrflw0xor has jsp/servlet changed a lot?
03:06.12jasonbIt has changed a lot in the last 8 years.
03:06.30jasonbActually, make that 9.
03:06.54ovrflw0xk
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06:17.42DevCatHey want to try out PrimeFaces (with JSF 2.0 I believe).  Is there a version of Tomcat (6.0 or 7.0) that is better for that?
06:17.54DevCatI'd like to use 6.0 since Ive been writing in 6.0 for such a long time
06:18.02DevCatIs there any advantage to 7.0?
06:18.22DevCatFrom everything I read 6.0 and JSF 2.0 and PrimeFaces will run fine together.
06:18.32DevCatJust have a chance at using 7.0 but can't see a reason for it atm.
06:19.36DevCatAlso, my app may run on different Tomcat versions (6.0.0 - 6.0.29) are there any issues with those to think about?  I installed Jira a few weeks back and it said it couldn't use .29.. weird.
06:32.29DevCatOh Tomcat buddies
06:32.35DevCatNo one around?
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06:59.33DevCatWell thank you buddies; May the force be with all Tomcat users; JBOSS you say? these are not the Java servers you are looking for; Help me Tomcat error logs, you are my only hope
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20:23.17raminhello
20:23.30ramini have a questrion about apache ftp
20:25.41raminis this the right channel for that?
20:50.47jMCgWhat?
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