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| 00:35.19 | undertakingyou | sontek: hi |
| 00:51.10 | sontek | undertakingyou: hows life |
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| 01:04.43 | Heartsbane | sontek: go watch Tom Petty |
| 01:06.05 | undertakingyou | sontek: good |
| 01:06.13 | undertakingyou | Hey sontek I wanted to ask you something. |
| 01:06.33 | undertakingyou | What package can I use to have two monitors on one linux box? |
| 01:06.48 | Heartsbane | nrandr I think |
| 01:07.42 | undertakingyou | I think sontek told Zelut about a different one. |
| 01:08.05 | Heartsbane | sorry xrandr |
| 01:08.14 | Heartsbane | or you can use Twinview |
| 01:08.23 | Heartsbane | with the NVidia stuff |
| 01:08.29 | undertakingyou | Maybe it was twinview. hmm . . . |
| 01:08.52 | undertakingyou | I thought it was something like xinearama or something |
| 01:09.08 | sontek | undertakingyou: twinview is nvidia |
| 01:09.21 | sontek | undertakingyou: but yeah, xrandr will work for most of your needs |
| 01:09.49 | undertakingyou | It is a nvidia card. So maybe twinview is what I want. |
| 01:10.11 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: I think you are thinking x11proto-xinerama-dev |
| 01:10.26 | Heartsbane | maybe |
| 01:10.32 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: that's it. |
| 01:10.44 | sontek | you don't want xinerama |
| 01:10.47 | sontek | thats different |
| 01:10.56 | undertakingyou | oh, good thing I asked :) |
| 01:11.10 | sontek | xinerama lets you run 2 xservers at the same time |
| 01:11.19 | sontek | 1 on each monitor |
| 01:12.07 | undertakingyou | But heres my question. with twinview can I have two monitors, each with different resolutions? |
| 01:12.15 | undertakingyou | If not, I need two xserver's right? |
| 01:12.28 | Heartsbane | I prefer Twinview although I wish I could get potrait mode setup correct with xrandr |
| 01:12.59 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: ya its is not going to pretty and I don't know how compiz will like that |
| 01:13.53 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: I don't need compiz, I just need to have it so that it can play the mythtv on the actual tv. |
| 01:14.10 | undertakingyou | I think that I will disable compiz. |
| 01:14.14 | Heartsbane | oh |
| 01:15.07 | undertakingyou | mythtv will be what comes up by default, and sometimes the tv will be the only thing that is hooked up |
| 01:15.17 | undertakingyou | this is an interesting application. |
| 01:15.22 | undertakingyou | So, yeah :) |
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| 01:52.34 | nearn | guys... I think I might be switching over to the world of macs. |
| 01:53.00 | atoponce | uh oh |
| 01:53.08 | atoponce | why's that? |
| 01:53.15 | Heartsbane | are you going to get some cork sandals too? |
| 01:54.25 | nearn | oldly enough.. i was thinking of buying some of those this spring. |
| 01:55.30 | nearn | atoponce: I bought a macbook and the only issue i have is the terminal does not like nicklist.pl in irssi. |
| 01:55.34 | atoponce | http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/nerd-46422.jpg <- nearn |
| 01:55.50 | atoponce | oh... wait |
| 01:55.53 | atoponce | sorry. that's Heartsbane |
| 01:56.29 | atoponce | the macs are sweet. i like my wife's ibook g4 |
| 01:56.38 | linuxalien | I have a Macbook |
| 01:56.40 | linuxalien | black |
| 01:56.43 | linuxalien | very nice |
| 01:56.50 | nearn | srsly. every thing but a stupid script works |
| 01:56.51 | linuxalien | I can run linux |
| 01:57.00 | nearn | linuxalien: that is what I have as well. |
| 01:57.04 | linuxalien | And there's fink and macports for your compiling frenzy |
| 01:57.16 | linuxalien | macports is sometimes buggy on intel though |
| 01:57.18 | nearn | psh, you dont even really need that |
| 01:57.20 | linuxalien | nearn, sweet |
| 01:57.28 | linuxalien | Yeah, you can get by with Xcode |
| 01:57.35 | nearn | most apps for the mac are free and sexy looksing |
| 01:57.38 | nearn | -s |
| 01:57.45 | linuxalien | Yes, plenty are precompiled |
| 01:58.36 | nearn | if i could only find a better media player the itunes then i would be set. |
| 01:59.04 | linuxalien | There's VLC, Mplayer OSX, DivX |
| 01:59.07 | linuxalien | Miro |
| 01:59.09 | nearn | but itunes does have daap built in and that is awesome for my media library. |
| 01:59.13 | linuxalien | Cool |
| 01:59.32 | nearn | those are good for vids but not mp3s |
| 02:00.23 | nearn | and the macbooks have a wicked suspend feature. |
| 02:00.31 | nearn | that just works. |
| 02:02.54 | nearn | http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/nerd-46422.jpg |
| 02:03.17 | linuxalien | I love my Macbook |
| 02:03.29 | nearn | I love that picture atoponce |
| 02:05.22 | atoponce | :) |
| 02:06.49 | linuxalien | bbl |
| 02:38.52 | Zelut | greeting from warm (ohh its *so* nice) houston |
| 03:06.56 | redbeard2 | Zelut: houston sucks |
| 03:07.02 | redbeard2 | no offense |
| 03:11.19 | Heartsbane | why? |
| 03:13.09 | redbeard2 | it's all the traffic. i don't like the traffic. |
| 03:13.19 | redbeard2 | plus, it's in texas. i don't care for texas either. |
| 03:17.01 | Gate | redbeard2: o_0 |
| 03:17.08 | Gate | don't mess with Texaas |
| 03:17.53 | redbeard2 | Gate: you in texas? |
| 03:19.17 | Gate | no |
| 03:19.41 | Gate | but I am seriously thinking about moving there...... :) |
| 03:19.48 | redbeard2 | Gate: why? |
| 03:20.01 | Gate | Graduate School, a few of the schools look appealing |
| 03:24.18 | mheath | Gate: I've heard it's not a bad place to live, in general |
| 03:24.30 | mheath | just from a few sailors I knew who were there |
| 03:25.43 | redbeard2 | i had a student in my class a month or two ago who was living in the bay area... his company offered him a position in houston, with his california wages. i wasn't surprised when he told me he declined. |
| 03:26.32 | mheath | Hey, whats the ubuntu package name for the advanced Compiz plugin configuration? |
| 03:26.58 | mheath | compiz-config or something like that? |
| 03:27.15 | Gate | let me check |
| 03:27.53 | Heartsbane | compizconfig-settings-manager |
| 03:28.00 | Gate | I have compizconfig-settings-manager installed |
| 03:28.05 | Gate | :) |
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| 03:28.57 | Heartsbane | miss us already |
| 03:29.05 | mheath | and how do you do window decoration themes for compiz? |
| 03:29.17 | mheath | When I used beryl, it was the emerald theme manager or something like that.. |
| 03:29.51 | Gate | heh, hit the wrong bloody button and closed the window :) |
| 03:29.59 | Gate | mheath: emerald |
| 03:30.11 | mheath | Ah, thats right, it requires a seperate install, right? |
| 03:30.25 | mheath | Sorry, I set this stuff up once in a blue moon, and forget it by the time I have to come back and set it up again |
| 03:30.35 | mheath | Seems like it changes subtley every time, too :P |
| 03:38.53 | Zelut | redbeard2: yeah the traffic does suck. i just got lost coming back home from the store. |
| 03:39.19 | Zelut | redbeard2: only reason i took this is i have family out here i haven't seen in over a year. |
| 03:39.50 | redbeard2 | Zelut: i heard you have a brother or something there |
| 03:42.09 | Zelut | redbeard2: actually its the only part of my wifes family i like ;) |
| 03:42.53 | redbeard2 | Zelut: cat come with you then? |
| 03:43.10 | Zelut | redbeard2: no way man. she's so pregnant she'd burst |
| 03:44.51 | redbeard2 | Zelut: oh, that's right. i'm not thinking. how much longer? |
| 03:45.05 | Zelut | redbeard2: we're actually crossing our fingers she makes it until i get back! she's been having some nasty contractions. |
| 03:45.29 | Zelut | redbeard2: normal due date is march 6th, but i'd be surprised if it went that long. |
| 04:13.15 | cyclone | Zelut: Congrats |
| 04:13.27 | cyclone | I'm in a similar situation. |
| 04:13.34 | cyclone | cept wife was due 25th of Jan |
| 04:13.37 | cyclone | lol |
| 04:22.48 | mheath | having kids scares me =\ |
| 04:23.13 | mheath | glad I'm not in your shoes, cyclone. |
| 04:27.32 | Gate | congrats Zelut! |
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| 05:47.03 | d33d | is anyone awake? |
| 05:47.07 | findlay | no |
| 05:47.11 | d33d | dang |
| 05:47.18 | d33d | Well, hi |
| 05:47.27 | d33d | How often do you guys meet? |
| 05:47.40 | findlay | I think it's every month |
| 05:48.12 | d33d | Do you know-- If I am not a developer will or can I help without "poisoning" the ubuntu-utah group? |
| 05:48.28 | Heartsbane | yes, you can |
| 05:48.34 | d33d | developer -comma |
| 05:48.51 | d33d | Heartsbane, by doing? |
| 05:49.20 | Heartsbane | findlay: did it involve levi and the uses of commas |
| 05:49.23 | d33d | I would like to help develop but I don't know much. |
| 05:49.27 | findlay | Heartsbane: worse |
| 05:49.34 | Heartsbane | oh no |
| 05:50.09 | d33d | Are the "presentations" on the more "advanced" side? |
| 05:50.17 | Heartsbane | d33d: wiki help, presenting, community work, website help, answering questions on the mailing list |
| 05:50.26 | Heartsbane | giving ideas for presentations |
| 05:50.37 | Heartsbane | education |
| 05:50.46 | Heartsbane | there is all kinds of things |
| 05:50.51 | d33d | ok cool. |
| 05:50.58 | d33d | Well I would like to help. |
| 05:51.09 | Heartsbane | Well come to the next meeting |
| 05:51.16 | d33d | ok. |
| 05:51.24 | d33d | I assume i can find it on the site? |
| 05:51.59 | Heartsbane | I think right now what we might be pushing is the new Hardy Heron bugsquad since it just went Alpha 4 |
| 05:52.13 | Heartsbane | its on the site, I think |
| 05:52.25 | Heartsbane | but then again we usually here |
| 05:53.05 | Heartsbane | d33d: I gotta crash but you know where to find us |
| 05:53.16 | d33d | oh. ok. thanks again. |
| 05:55.29 | Heartsbane | findlay: here all the commas I missed ,,,,,,, could you get them to needy grammar people ask levi for help |
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| 16:29.28 | cyclone | q! |
| 16:29.34 | cyclone | DOH |
| 16:29.44 | atoponce | you forgot the : |
| 16:30.14 | cyclone | lol |
| 16:31.17 | cyclone | mheath: Kids shouldn't scare ya man. I wouldn't trade my son for anything. Kids are fun.. especially if they are your own. ^_^ (SUPER late response.. but meh) |
| 16:31.33 | atoponce | kids rock |
| 16:32.15 | cyclone | they totally do |
| 16:32.23 | cyclone | I think I learn more from my son then he does from me. lol |
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| 17:13.45 | mheath | cyclone: maybe |
| 17:13.56 | mheath | cyclone: I'm still working on the 'get married' part. |
| 17:14.06 | mheath | Even thats still a few months off |
| 17:14.53 | mheath | BTW |
| 17:15.16 | mheath | First impression of Hardy - Artwork is WAY improved. |
| 17:15.40 | mheath | I love it way, way, way more than Gutsy |
| 17:15.57 | mheath | Sorry, but the Human stuff and the default backgrounds have always somewhat annoyed me in Ubuntu |
| 17:16.05 | mheath | Hardy's I find much more aesthetically pleasing. |
| 17:17.06 | cyclone | hrmmm |
| 17:17.16 | cyclone | Maybe I'll jump on the Hardy band wagon then. |
| 17:17.26 | cyclone | I am a sucker for eye candy. |
| 17:17.37 | cyclone | unlike Zelut, who just uses CLI. *ducks* |
| 17:17.43 | cyclone | ;) |
| 17:18.08 | mheath | The default background, rather than the rendered-light-brown-wavey-stuff in Gutsy, is just a picture of a dark brown leather hide. |
| 17:18.17 | mheath | Which sounds weird, but I find oddly pleasing |
| 17:18.46 | mheath | I think the icons have been cleaned up some too, though don't quote me on that as I haven't used Ubuntu's default icons in a while and they have have changed earlier than I'm thinking. |
| 17:19.42 | mheath | cyclone: meh, it still doesn't meet my standards for eyecandy |
| 17:20.04 | mheath | GTK + Metacity themes are to be replaced (with a new GTK theme + an Emerald theme) |
| 17:20.19 | mheath | I'll probably replcae the wallpaper, though I really do like that..hmm. |
| 17:20.32 | mheath | I'm just surprised |
| 17:20.53 | mheath | They're making a lot of changes with GVFS and Pulseaudio and Policykit for whats supposed to be a LTS release |
| 17:21.00 | mheath | I hope they can get things cleaned up in time. |
| 17:32.38 | mheath | speaking of artwork... |
| 17:32.54 | mheath | does anyone here have a favorite icon theme? |
| 17:33.43 | tristanbob | cyclone: cli = certified loser interface |
| 17:33.54 | tristanbob | ;) |
| 17:35.01 | cyclone | hehehe |
| 17:40.09 | mheath | wow |
| 17:40.24 | mheath | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ClearlooksOSX?content=69487 |
| 17:42.59 | tristanbob | mheath, http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/02/04/new-theme-for-ubuntu-804-deferred/ |
| 17:43.03 | tristanbob | sorry ;( |
| 17:43.33 | thaddeusq | the gui is for wimps. |
| 17:44.46 | mheath | GUIs are broken, I'll give you that. |
| 17:45.02 | mheath | We're locked into the exact same GUI concepts we've been using for 20 years, with few exceptions. |
| 17:47.48 | mheath | tristanbob: I don't think thats what I'm talking about. |
| 17:48.07 | mheath | tristanbob: mine wasn't a complete GUI rehash, it was just a new background, and some subtle improvements to icons. |
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| 18:11.50 | atoponce | thaddeusq: seconded |
| 18:11.54 | atoponce | cli or die |
| 18:14.29 | tapH20guru | sk8 or die |
| 18:15.07 | atoponce | that'd be a cool license plate, if | is allowed; cli|die |
| 18:15.59 | tapH20guru | cli r die |
| 18:17.43 | atoponce | guiluser |
| 18:23.23 | tapH20guru | i luv xp |
| 18:23.25 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 18:27.09 | atoponce | heh |
| 18:44.23 | d33d | iluvbill |
| 18:50.31 | Zelut | cyclone: i use a bit of both ;) |
| 19:00.50 | tristanbob | Zelut, I use CLI too - I just showed my wife how to "apt-get install" |
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| 19:01.07 | tristanbob | she is do all sorts of GIMP stuff on my Ubuntu PC |
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| 19:46.06 | tonedev1 | is that "guiluser" like "gui Luser"? |
| 19:46.59 | atoponce | nods |
| 19:47.52 | atoponce | it's intended for calling those who rely on guis lusers, but i can see how you could be advertising yourself as a gui luser as well |
| 19:48.04 | atoponce | with only 7 chars on the plate, it's tough |
| 19:48.31 | Heartsbane | ih8guis |
| 19:48.44 | Heartsbane | guih8r |
| 19:48.53 | atoponce | heh |
| 19:49.03 | findlay | guis4us |
| 19:49.09 | findlay | guisRus |
| 19:49.10 | Heartsbane | ubu4lyf |
| 19:49.25 | Heartsbane | cycloneisaclown |
| 19:49.30 | Heartsbane | too many letters |
| 19:50.59 | Heartsbane | cyclone: ping |
| 19:51.17 | Heartsbane | synic: smack cyc for me |
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| 19:53.34 | Heartsbane | atoponce: what about the license plate PEBCAK? |
| 20:07.49 | opapo | I have a kvm virtual machine that can't connect to the outside world |
| 20:08.15 | opapo | i can vnc into it, but I can't ping it nor can it ping out |
| 20:13.39 | tonedev1 | Heartsbane: it's PEBKAC |
| 20:13.52 | tonedev1 | or i guess it could go both ways |
| 20:14.10 | tonedev1 | AND is transitive, afterall |
| 20:16.16 | JoeyDay|wgu | So, I dunno if any of you were around the other day when I was trying to figure out a way to FTP around my company firewall, but in case anyone was dying to know the solution I found, check out www.net2ftp.com |
| 20:18.31 | mheath | JoeyDay|wgu: Thats just called a proxy :-) |
| 20:24.05 | tonedev1 | i was expecting some crazy DNS or ICMP tunneling ; ) |
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