IRC log for #ubuntu-us-ut on 20080212

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00:33.20atoponceherlo: yeah. i took it down
00:35.33Zelutatoponce: how's class so far?
01:05.09herloatoponce: I'm looking forward to harassing you...
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13:04.54atoponceZelut: so far, so good
13:05.03atoponceno issues yet. today is netfilter and dns
13:05.12atoponcepray for me
14:19.30herloatoponce: you will do fine
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14:55.18atoponceso, who's up for presenting this upcoming meet?
14:57.00herloatoponce: not I said the pig
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15:42.41atoponcewhat is the stub resolver again?
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16:16.41tristanbob_herlo, ping
16:21.45findlayso ubuntu doesn't enable bitmap fonts by default because they 'may be lower in quality'
16:21.49findlayyeah, right
16:27.05findlaynot only thatm but it seems  ubuntu has removed my favorite bitmap font from the repo :(
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16:27.35tapH20gurumornin all
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16:57.43herlotristanbob_: pong
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17:17.42atoponcefindlay: what's your favorite bitmap font?
17:18.06findlayatoponce: lucidatypewriter
17:18.21herlofindlay: bitmap fonts aren
17:18.30herlot as efficient as vector fonts
17:19.32findlayif ubuntu has any bitmap fonts worth looking at, I'd sooner call it's mother a wit
17:19.40findlay</Jane Austen allusion>
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18:01.32tapH20guruI'm not sure I "get" linux mint... what does it give me that ubuntu+mediabuntu repos doesn't?
18:11.58Zelutnever used it.. no idea
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19:31.02atoponcetapH20guru: it's green by default. :)
19:31.26tapH20gurusounds "groundbreaking"
19:31.45atoponceyou have no idea
19:33.09atoponcei've never understood the whole gnewsense/gobuntu debate- just run debian
19:33.12Zelutsounds like suse
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19:33.21atoponceor, take out restricted and multiverse from your repos
19:33.26atoponcewhich i have done
19:43.17tapH20gurusounds like daeth
19:43.22tapH20guruexcept green
19:45.41atoponcedaeth?
19:46.37herloatoponce: that's the worst kind
19:46.50atoponcei better not catch it then
19:46.55atoponcesounds fatal
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19:47.47herloprobably
19:47.55herlonot sure tho, its spelt funny
19:48.14Zeluthow do i grep for does NOT start with X?
19:48.15atoponcesounds like a rock band actually
19:48.21atoponceZelut: grep -v
19:48.30herlothat's a great band name Zelut
19:48.30Zelutatoponce: something Jono listens to maybe
19:49.02Zelutgrep -v works, but i also need to say starts with
19:49.17Zelutgrep -v ^X ?
19:49.18atoponceegrep -v ^X
19:49.31atoponcegrep -Ev ^X too, iirc
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19:53.18Zelutpop quiz with bash..
19:53.35Zeluti have a config file that lists hostnames and i have files that are saved prefixed with the hostname.
19:54.07Zelutwhat i want to do is read from the config file for hostnames and if there is also a file matching that hostname do X
19:54.14Zeluthow do i write that test statement?
19:54.50Zelutie; if the hostname is in the config but there is no matching file do nothing.
19:57.39herlo[ -e filename ]; then do soemthing; fi
19:57.57herloof course, put if in front of it
19:58.01herloif [ -e filename ]; then do soemthing; fi
19:59.39Zelutok.. maybe: for FILENAME in $(cat list); do
19:59.56Zelutif [ -e FILENAME ]; do X; else echo "you suck"; fi
20:01.59Zelutthat makes sense. thanks.
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20:02.59herlodo I win anything?
20:03.04herloliek a cookie!?
20:03.26Zelutyou win a case logic and two usb keys!
20:03.39herlowoohoo!
20:03.59herlowait a minute!  what about the batteries
20:04.00herlo?
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20:22.58atoponceherlo: no batteries for you
20:29.28Zelutdid some bug fixes on folding-0.6.2 today.  migrating between classrooms should be much simpler now.
20:30.34Zelutthe only thing i can't yet figure out is automating deployment + restoration + cron, but the cron only on certain machines.
20:31.00Zelutwithout doing it in two passes.  one pass for machines with students and a second pass for machines without.
20:36.42Zelutnot a big deal though.
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20:56.40nearncan any one recomend a free dns service?
20:56.59kkubasi1dyndns
21:00.40atoponceopendns
21:08.48nearnthose are both dynamic dns services.
21:14.05atoponceopendns offers a different service from dyndns
21:25.52nearnfrom what I can tell via the options in my account is that is does offer dns for synamic ips
21:25.56nearndynamic*
21:28.09atoponceopendns gives you dns servers that you can rely on dor resolving domains, as well as filtering out pr0n, phishing, and other sites
21:28.44atoponcedyndns gives you an url that points to your dynamic ip from your isp, so even if your ip changes, your url will still alwys get you "home"
21:29.13atoponcepthree.org, for example. if the ip changes, i have to tell godaddy such, as they're my registrar. dyndns, i don't
21:29.25atoponceopendns, i put their nameservers in my /etc/resolv.conf
21:29.46atoponcefast dns caching domains, stats, filtering, number of other cool options
21:30.12nearnyeah, I needed free dns hosting
21:30.25nearnnot a free dns service.
21:30.35atoponceahh
21:31.07atoponceyou just want to stick A records on a dns server?
21:31.27nearndns
21:32.20atoponcei've been debating setting up a dns server, actually. not sure if i want it externally available or not, though
21:32.23atoponce:)
21:35.12nearnI have been debaiting the same thing.
21:40.10nearneverydns.org seems to be working for me.
21:40.43Zeluti use opendns.org for my name resolution, and used to use dyndns for my dynamic ip.. until xmission. they give static by default.
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