| 00:01.17 | mheath | Evening all. |
| 00:01.30 | mheath | Is anyone aware of a comprehensive Icon list? |
| 00:01.41 | mheath | That is, a list that says all of the icons an icon set must contain to be 'complete'? |
| 00:51.36 | Hunding | not me |
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| 02:20.41 | mheath | So, question..... |
| 02:20.57 | mheath | Why would apt-get upgrade be holding back things for me, when they install fine if you try to update them individually? |
| 02:21.06 | mheath | It's holding back ubuntu-desktop and gnome-panel... |
| 02:21.30 | mheath | But when I upgrade those manually, it lets me, and I see no conflits |
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| 04:07.53 | mheath | I'm facing some nasty issues in the design of my System Restore program. |
| 04:08.59 | mheath | The only 'good' way of backing up already-installed packages is by backing up the original .deb's |
| 04:09.12 | mheath | which may not be available |
| 04:10.41 | mheath | dpkg also isn't the best about keeping track of configuration files. |
| 04:11.04 | mheath | It's configuration file management stuff is limited, and isn't required - Developers are, infact, encouraged in many situations to just code the configuration file handling into the installation scripts. |
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| 04:33.21 | undertakingyou | 20:21 < mheath> But when I upgrade those manually, it lets me, and I see no conflits |
| 04:33.37 | undertakingyou | try a sudo aptitude full-upgrade |
| 04:34.54 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: isn't that what I told Hunding earlier? |
| 04:35.12 | undertakingyou | I think so |
| 04:36.12 | Heartsbane | night |
| 04:37.34 | undertakingyou | night |
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| 14:47.08 | steve8track | how can I get a login to the wiki page? |
| 14:48.52 | Zelut | steve8track: to the ubuntu wiki? |
| 14:49.02 | steve8track | to the ubuntu utah wiki |
| 14:49.07 | Heartsbane | do you have a launchpadd account |
| 14:49.16 | steve8track | is that the ubuntu forums? |
| 14:49.24 | Heartsbane | no |
| 14:49.39 | steve8track | I guess I don't then... what's launchpadd? |
| 14:50.35 | Heartsbane | https://launchpad.net/ |
| 14:51.08 | Zelut | launchpad is the ubuntu bug tracker and the IDs tie into the wiki. |
| 14:51.48 | steve8track | ok, thanks, so if I sign up for the launchpad, then I have an account to the wiki |
| 14:51.57 | Heartsbane | if you create an account there, your username/password will be the same in the wiki..... yes |
| 14:55.12 | steve8track | thanks |
| 14:56.00 | peno | Heartsbane: you're in charge today! |
| 14:57.38 | Zelut | +1 |
| 15:08.50 | Heartsbane | Wow |
| 15:09.29 | Heartsbane | k I am taking the day off, only call me if something important catches fire |
| 15:09.54 | peno | the internet tubes are melting |
| 15:10.18 | Heartsbane | we'll get replaced tomorrow |
| 15:10.54 | peno | but how will I get my lolcats today? |
| 15:11.30 | Heartsbane | get a camera and play with marbles |
| 15:11.33 | Heartsbane | freak |
| 15:11.44 | peno | O.o |
| 15:11.57 | peno | he's lazy though |
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| 17:15.22 | tonedevf | anyone have a suggestion for a decent webcam app? |
| 17:23.33 | tapH20guru | cheese |
| 17:23.50 | tapH20guru | http://live.gnome.org/Cheese |
| 17:30.49 | mheath_rmt | So |
| 17:30.59 | mheath_rmt | How long are obsolete packages kept in the repos after being updated? |
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| 18:46.35 | Yorokobi | anybody know how to emulate an HTTP POST via SSL on the command line without stunnel? |
| 19:01.37 | Yorokobi | nm, wget supports post and SSL |
| 19:22.20 | mheath | Hmm, this backup process is going to be time consuming if I do it properly |
| 19:22.26 | mheath | What I'm looking at right now is this: |
| 19:22.42 | mheath | 1) Get a list of all installed packages (easily doable with dpkg) |
| 19:23.14 | mheath | 2) Collect all the .deb's via the cache or apt, or prompt the user (/ warn them) to get it some other way |
| 19:23.39 | mheath | 3) Un-ar the .deb's and control.tar.gz's to readout the conf files |
| 19:24.12 | mheath | 4) Move all these .deb files and the conf files to a specified backup directory |
| 19:24.52 | mheath | 5) Write out a small metadata .xml with info about the backup |
| 19:25.09 | mheath | Step 3 seems really time consuming |
| 19:25.23 | mheath | Though .deb isn't compressed, the control.tar.gz is |
| 19:26.41 | mheath | Does anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 21:56.54 | Technoviking | hi all |
| 21:58.18 | Heartsbane | whatsup Mike |
| 21:59.04 | Technoviking | not much, can you lend a hand for a sec, testing out something in irssi |
| 21:59.34 | Heartsbane | sure] |
| 21:59.45 | Heartsbane | what do you need? |
| 22:00.17 | Technoviking | can you send a chat line starting with Technoviking: |
| 22:00.25 | Zelut | Technoviking: foo |
| 22:00.31 | Technoviking | sweet |
| 22:00.49 | Heartsbane | Technoviking: I have this theory that the truth is never told from the hours of 9 to 5 |
| 22:01.29 | Technoviking | cool, got hilight windows working |
| 22:01.40 | Heartsbane | :) |
| 22:02.10 | Technoviking | can you also send a private chat so I can see how that looks |
| 22:03.35 | Technoviking | thanks all is working, will uninstall xchat so I don't have the cruch to fall back on:) |
| 22:03.51 | Heartsbane | s/cruch/crutch/ |
| 22:03.55 | Heartsbane | :) |
| 22:17.50 | Technoviking | anyone have the adv_windowlist.pl script for irssi? |
| 22:18.23 | Heartsbane | no |
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| 22:37.05 | Zelut | sontek: ping |
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| 22:59.36 | sontek | Zelut: pong |
| 23:01.24 | Zelut | sontek: what does 'lsb_release -d' show on your suse boxen? |
| 23:01.48 | sontek | we've covered this before! ;) |
| 23:02.05 | Zelut | I know. I forgot |
| 23:02.08 | sontek | Description: openSUSE 10.3 (i586) |
| 23:03.31 | Zelut | so 'lsb_release | egrep "(Red Hat)|Fedora|SUSE' will work on your machine? |
| 23:03.47 | Zelut | I thought I updated this but I never commited my changes via bzr :( |
| 23:04.37 | sontek | if you put -d on there and close it with " instead of ' it will :P |
| 23:05.07 | Zelut | that's what I meant |
| 23:06.12 | sontek | You could do lsb_release -d | awk '{ print $2 }' |
| 23:06.41 | sontek | or $2 $3 for distro and version |
| 23:07.22 | Zelut | just need the distro to see if I can use useradd properly or if I have to use the crippled adduser |
| 23:10.27 | sontek | yeah, that awk should work |
| 23:10.32 | sontek | but the grep would too |
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| 23:44.22 | Zelut | how do I turn off mouse support in vim? |
| 23:44.28 | Zelut | not sure how I got it turned on, but its on |