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| 00:01.30 | asad | Hi everyone |
| 00:02.30 | asad | I am newbie in Ubuntu just moved a couple of months back from Windows and still learning. Saying Hi to all Utah Ubuntu ppl |
| 00:04.50 | Zelut | heya |
| 00:30.54 | jnbek | hello asad welcome aboard :) |
| 00:33.49 | asad | Hi jnbek |
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| 02:04.47 | throck | is there a new default bittorrent client for Hardy? |
| 02:15.58 | findlay | rtorrent ftw |
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| 02:19.51 | Zelut | throck: transmission |
| 02:46.14 | throck | Zelut: So if I check my system processes I should see transmission in there right? (I'm currently downloading via bittorrent) |
| 02:46.54 | throck | huh - it looks like I'm actually still using gnome-btdownload. |
| 02:48.55 | throck | I suppose it did that because of my preferences in firefox. Since I upgraded from Gutsy. |
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| 03:27.43 | throck | excellent - simply removing gnome-btdownload made transmission the default bittorrent client. |
| 03:27.59 | Zelut | cool |
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| 04:42.30 | sontek | sup |
| 04:53.45 | fizz | suuuuuup |
| 05:10.49 | sontek | rewiring my office |
| 05:11.21 | sontek | we had moved all my servers into our bedroom while a friend was staying with us (our guest bedroom roof started leaking so we moved him into the office) |
| 05:11.37 | sontek | its been 4 months since he moved out and I'm just now getting to it :P |
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| 13:14.30 | peno | sontek: you're a slacker! |
| 13:22.50 | herlo | peno: don't call Heartsbane a slacker 6 times in one phone call, he gets annoyed with you :) |
| 13:23.07 | peno | herlo: what about 7 times? |
| 13:23.29 | peno | makes it a point to call hearts a slacker 7 times. |
| 13:33.48 | herlo | peno: unknown |
| 13:34.04 | herlo | I only did it 6 times, I'll have to try it once more next time I see him :) |
| 13:38.18 | peno | herlo: it may backfire completely |
| 13:47.27 | herlo | I know! |
| 13:51.21 | peno | it may cost you a drink or two |
| 13:53.10 | herlo | probably :) |
| 13:53.59 | herlo | I don't mind buying beer here and there :) |
| 13:55.01 | peno | hehe. |
| 13:58.09 | herlo | peno: if you came out with us one night, you might find this out :-> |
| 13:58.23 | peno | herlo: but that means going outside! |
| 13:58.35 | peno | herlo: usually when the daystar is out! |
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| 14:38.34 | Hunding | is CentOS very different from Ubuntu? |
| 14:39.24 | peno | yes |
| 14:48.51 | sontek | Hunding: yes, its based off of redhat |
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| 14:58.55 | Zelut | Hunding: ubuntu-server is all you need :) |
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| 15:38.13 | Hunding | Zelut: I wish that were true, unfortunatly I have a customer that requires a fax server and I have been unsuccesful in actually getting hylafax to work. I can buy a "turn key hylafax server |
| 15:38.33 | sontek | We run hylafax here, what are you having trouble with? |
| 15:38.34 | Hunding | for <$600, but it runs CentOS |
| 15:39.00 | sontek | we are using 2 old pentium 3 servers with Ubuntu Dapper (I believe, haven't looked at them in awhile) |
| 15:39.03 | Hunding | sontek: wanna make some money? Set me up a hylafax server |
| 15:39.25 | sontek | I don't need money :) I can give you our configs and answer questions |
| 15:39.40 | Hunding | I'll pay someone $500 to setup the server |
| 15:39.43 | throck | sontek: are you using dedicated fax boards? And if so, which ones? |
| 15:40.19 | sontek | throck: we are just using hardware modems |
| 15:40.28 | sontek | throck: Our phone system load balances it between the 8 cards |
| 15:40.41 | sontek | Hunding: well, if you want to pay someone, I can set it up for ya, do you have the hardware? |
| 15:40.48 | sontek | Hunding: but i'm willing to just help you through it |
| 15:41.10 | Hunding | sontek: I will get the hardware over to you :) |
| 15:42.41 | throck | sontek: I'm guessing it works really well. What issues have you seen with hylafax? The reason I ask is I used to maintain about 15 fax servers, all running Omtool Genifax with Brooktrout cards. That software is a pita. |
| 15:43.39 | sontek | I haven't had any issues with it at all, we have it setup to save the image to a network share, e-mail it to our fax e-mail address, and print out a copy |
| 15:43.55 | sontek | I've been very happy with hylafx |
| 15:44.54 | xfrogman5 | Have you every used Asterisk? It's for VoIP and it has fax capability. |
| 15:45.25 | throck | that's pretty much exactly what my fax systems did. But there were so many issues (still are, I've just changed jobs) that the reliability just wasn't there. |
| 15:45.58 | throck | xfrogman5: I haven't used Asterisk. It's one of those things I REALLY want to learn, but I don't have a clue where to start. |
| 15:46.22 | sontek | voip + fax = failure |
| 15:47.13 | throck | As I understand it, Asterisk will do VOIP, but it will also do regular telephone lines too. |
| 15:47.56 | xfrogman5 | Here's the feature set: http://www.asterisk.org/support/features |
| 15:51.01 | Zelut | twitter: @snapl thursday 16:00 UTC |
| 15:55.05 | throck | Zelut: wrong chat window? |
| 15:55.14 | Zelut | oops |
| 15:55.24 | Zelut | throck: thanks |
| 15:55.47 | Zelut | note to self: don't start twitter conversations while toggling windows in irssi |
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| 17:51.50 | herlo | this makes me sad :( --> http://tinyurl.com/56ry36 |
| 17:54.16 | Zelut | herlo: +1 to that. I'm likely going to get rid of my OLPC actually |
| 17:55.51 | Zelut | this is pretty cool - http://fosswire.com/2008/04/22/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/ |
| 18:04.00 | findlay | herlo: doesn't matter. FLOSS is way bigger than Negroponte |
| 18:04.31 | findlay | it can't be stopped :-) |
| 18:06.27 | herlo | Zelut: if you don't want your OLPC, I might consider purchasing it from you |
| 18:11.43 | Zelut | herlo: I might consider selling it to you |
| 18:19.07 | herlo | Zelut: k |
| 18:22.25 | synic | Zelut: for you. http://penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 18:22.50 | herlo | both intel and M$ want a piece of the OLPC because they *know* that if it gets into the hands of the 3rd world, they can dominate that world with their b0rkened software |
| 18:23.41 | findlay | I'm willing to trust the invisible hand |
| 18:24.39 | findlay | if not at then least I can still use my software in the way I want while everybody else is too afraid to abandon their pile of proprietary bondage |
| 18:25.06 | findlay | herlo: M$ must have it's own kind of RDF :) |
| 18:25.20 | herlo | something |
| 18:26.28 | findlay | my old roomate--who is tradtionally very open minded and liberal--did an internship there a couple of years ago and he came back with some of the common symptoms of M$ fanboyism |
| 18:26.50 | findlay | it took months for his views to moderate :) |
| 18:31.08 | herlo | findlay: you were beating Open Source into him every day until he conceded correct? |
| 18:31.39 | herlo | s/ed /ed, / |
| 18:33.59 | findlay | herlo: insinuating as much propaganda as I could at every opportunity :) |
| 18:34.08 | herlo | yay! |
| 18:34.19 | herlo | open source propagandists are gods messengers |
| 18:34.40 | herlo | god ~== gnome online desktop ~== free software :) |
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| 19:02.14 | Heartsbane | synic: LOL nice link |
| 19:02.25 | tristanbob_ | #ubuntu-release-party FTW! |
| 19:03.08 | tristanbob_ | that is for you responsible people who like to show up early to make sure you can get a good parking space |
| 19:04.24 | tristanbob_ | synic, that penny arcade cracks me up |
| 19:04.41 | peno | PA ftw |
| 19:13.49 | throck | synic: funny thing - I thought of Zelut when I read that too! |
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| 19:18.00 | bigfox | Well, I am about to start the upgrade to 8.04 on my work machine. Anything I should keep in mind that Christer hasn't mentioned? |
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| 20:55.07 | herlo | tristanbob_: there will be plenty of parking nearby |
| 20:56.16 | tristanbob_ | wonders where the parking is in an IRC channel... |
| 20:57.03 | herlo | tristanbob_: in reference to your FTW comment above silly |
| 20:59.12 | tristanbob_ | herlo, yes, it must be in #ubuntu-release-party-parking |
| 20:59.28 | herlo | tristanbob_: you are a smart ass |
| 20:59.30 | herlo | :) |
| 20:59.36 | tristanbob_ | better than a dumb one! |
| 20:59.59 | tristanbob_ | herlo, I hope I can cheer you up at least |
| 21:06.48 | herlo | tristanbob_: I'm cheered up |
| 21:07.33 | herlo | yay!! |
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| 21:55.32 | peno | nerds! |
| 21:55.42 | peno | :) |
| 22:15.51 | synic | no u |
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| 22:25.54 | bigfox | Upgrade to 8.04 complete. That was slick. |
| 22:26.32 | bigfox | Smoothest OS upgrade I have ever done. |
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| 22:52.08 | Heartsbane | bigfox: Lies |
| 22:57.03 | bigfox | Your right, some of my more obscure firefox plugins stopped working. |
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| 23:01.50 | bigfox | I will have to wait until those plugins are updated. |
| 23:02.07 | Heartsbane | ya |
| 23:03.03 | bigfox | As long as NoScript works, then I am a happy camper. It works perfectly. |
| 23:04.42 | tapH20guru | I can't find a good rundown of the pros / cons of openvz vs xen vs KVM... any ideas? |
| 23:05.00 | tapH20guru | KVM is out if my CPU isn't up to snuff right? |
| 23:10.13 | Heartsbane | has done anything other than VMware. |
| 23:10.34 | jnbek | <<----- Virtual Box user |
| 23:12.06 | bigfox | Virtual box will work if your CPU doesn't have vitalization extensions, it will just be much slower. |
| 23:12.21 | tapH20guru | it'll be for web hosting so VirtualBox won't really work |
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| 23:12.53 | bigfox | Oh. |
| 23:13.33 | tapH20guru | I'm looking for the speed of xen or openvz |
| 23:14.21 | bigfox | VMware existed before CPU visualization extensions existed, so it may work. |
| 23:31.34 | encryptz | tapH20guru: kvm with libvirtd and virt-manager |
| 23:32.11 | encryptz | with virt-manager, you can specify whether or not to do full virtualization (supported by the cpu) or paravirtualization (*any* cpu) |
| 23:32.48 | encryptz | kvm is considerably better than xen, in many regards, and virtual box is annoying with it's FOSS/proprietary licensing garbage |
| 23:33.21 | encryptz | openvz is rock-solid, but no gui, and you have to boot into another kernel just like xen |
| 23:33.31 | encryptz | kvm, just load a kernel module, and you're set |
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| 23:39.05 | bigfox | Yes, it is jbot |
| 23:50.49 | tapH20guru | hmm.. thanks Aaron |
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| 23:51.36 | findlay | throck: you're right. Network manager is way better than both wifi radar and whatever app they had with xandros on this thing, except it only works as root on debian :/ |