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| 00:33.01 | d33d | ping Zelut |
| 00:36.40 | Zelut | d33d: pong |
| 00:37.55 | d33d | Hey, what's up? I'm thinking about getting my wife one of these EEE Pcs, any recommendations as far as the model? I'm planning on tossing Hardy on it... |
| 00:38.22 | herlo | 9inch |
| 00:38.52 | d33d | am I wrong, or didn't zelut just get one for his wife? |
| 00:38.57 | d33d | Am I way off? |
| 00:39.03 | d33d | I could have gotten confused. |
| 00:39.25 | herlo | he got one for him, not sure about his wife |
| 00:39.42 | Zelut | d33d: Technoviking just got one for his wife. I've had one since Christmas. |
| 00:39.43 | herlo | but I have the 7in model and love it |
| 00:39.45 | d33d | swear someone got one for their wife the other day...i was talking about them. |
| 00:39.47 | d33d | dangit |
| 00:39.49 | d33d | that's who |
| 00:39.52 | Zelut | d33d: I'll be presenting on it during Open Week on Thursday. |
| 00:39.55 | d33d | ha, sorry for bothering you. |
| 00:40.00 | herlo | np |
| 00:40.01 | d33d | Sweet. |
| 00:40.08 | herlo | you arent bothering us |
| 00:40.13 | d33d | ok |
| 00:40.14 | d33d | good |
| 00:40.15 | Zelut | d33d: so if you're wondering about running ubuntu on it stop by and have a listen |
| 00:40.35 | herlo | or a watch (and a read) :) |
| 00:41.06 | d33d | ok cool |
| 00:41.11 | d33d | thanks guys. |
| 00:41.23 | d33d | I'm just guessing an external hd will do for her stuff |
| 00:41.30 | d33d | she plans on using it for school mostly |
| 00:42.37 | herlo | right. its good for that |
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| 00:51.38 | herlo | zelut: what is terminator? keep in mind, I'm on my treo and dont have the ability to look up links :) |
| 00:52.20 | Zelut | herlo: gnome-terminal with the ability to split-view. think window in vim, for the shell. |
| 00:54.01 | herlo | interesting |
| 00:54.47 | herlo | I'l have to check it out |
| 00:55.30 | herlo | heads off the train |
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| 01:02.12 | sontek | mirc! |
| 01:04.21 | encryptz | Zelut: vertical splits, or just horizontal? |
| 01:04.29 | encryptz | screen can do horizontal |
| 01:04.32 | Zelut | encryptz: either |
| 01:04.40 | encryptz | interesting |
| 01:06.09 | Zelut | encryptz: its in hardy, just throw it on the machine and right-click to see the split options |
| 01:06.25 | Zelut | encryptz: ..although I think the split options are reversed. I'm submitting a bug on it. |
| 01:07.00 | encryptz | yeah. i agree. definitely reversed |
| 01:07.30 | encryptz | how to switch terminals with the keyboard? |
| 01:08.04 | sontek | Zelut: are you talking something like: http://sontek.net/screenshots/screenshot-4-30-2008.png |
| 01:09.31 | sontek | the top part is vim, bottom part is a shell |
| 01:09.43 | encryptz | sontek: you're using screen though |
| 01:10.12 | encryptz | do a vertical split with screen |
| 01:10.16 | sontek | encryptz: yeah, I like screen :) |
| 01:10.23 | encryptz | metto |
| 01:10.37 | encryptz | s/tto/ to/ |
| 01:10.48 | encryptz | er, whatever |
| 01:11.08 | sontek | encryptz: latest screen has vertical splits |
| 01:11.40 | Zelut | like this: http://zelut.org/projects/misc/terminator.png |
| 01:11.59 | Zelut | oops, projects/misc/images/terminator.png |
| 01:12.40 | Zelut | gnome terminal split in half and then in half again on the right. three shells open on my server, monitoring htop, auth.log & error.log. |
| 01:13.08 | encryptz | sontek: what version? |
| 01:14.16 | sontek | encryptz: svn |
| 01:14.29 | sontek | Theres been a patch for it for about 2 years |
| 01:14.37 | sontek | but as I understand, they just committed it |
| 01:14.51 | sontek | or are planning on committing |
| 01:15.00 | encryptz | i've always been under the impression that screen was abandonware |
| 01:15.02 | sontek | but the patch has been available for anyone who wants it |
| 01:15.13 | encryptz | we got it to a point that we want it, so there |
| 01:15.23 | sontek | I don't ever need vertsplits |
| 01:15.32 | sontek | for terminal anyways |
| 01:15.35 | sontek | I use them in vim itself |
| 01:16.18 | encryptz | yeah. i guess i use it in vim mostly. i would like to use it in irssi though |
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| 01:19.30 | sontek | encryptz: yeah, I don't do many splits in irssi |
| 01:19.41 | sontek | encryptz: I used screen for each off my servers |
| 01:19.54 | sontek | so theres not many times I'd need to split |
| 01:20.23 | sontek | Zelut: and for logging like what you are doing, I just turning monitoring on and use multiple screens |
| 01:20.30 | sontek | Zelut: and it alerts me when a log changed |
| 01:20.50 | sontek | I can definitely see the usage though, i'm thinking about installing terminator |
| 01:20.56 | sontek | but with screen, it works in any term |
| 01:21.00 | sontek | not just gnome-term |
| 01:22.08 | Zelut | I find that I'm using it more and more.. although it needs quite a bit of improvement. |
| 01:22.21 | Zelut | keyboard shortcuts for splitting windows for one |
| 01:22.34 | sontek | do you use screen much? |
| 01:22.45 | sontek | I think you'd be able to get by with only screen |
| 01:22.57 | sontek | if you don't mind only horizontal splits (or patching your screen manually) |
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| 02:10.39 | Hunding_ | sontek: ping |
| 02:16.32 | findlay | encryptz: maybe better than Corporate Version of Screen(R) that constantly adds Cool New Features to keep the product line 'relavent' :-) |
| 02:17.44 | findlay | s/adds/encruftifies with/ |
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| 02:35.16 | mheath | Zelut: I wasn't hear earlier so it's probably a moot point now, but...what's #ubuntu-classroom? |
| 02:36.36 | Zelut | ubuntu openweek is on this week. talking with the devs towards 8.10 in -classroom |
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| 02:49.56 | sontek | Hunding: pong |
| 02:50.06 | sontek | Hunding: My work is at 2100 s and state |
| 02:50.15 | sontek | Hunding: wheres your office? |
| 02:50.35 | sontek | Hunding: I think you've actually been to my office |
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| 03:14.26 | herlo | encryptz: ping |
| 03:14.59 | encryptz | herlo: pong |
| 03:15.33 | herlo | pm |
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| 04:51.01 | mindjuju | what is a good swap file size ? |
| 04:55.25 | herlo | 1.5x ram |
| 04:55.31 | herlo | depending on how much ram you have |
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| 04:55.58 | herlo | mindjuju: how much ram do you have? |
| 04:56.08 | mindjuju | 1g |
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| 04:56.24 | herlo | 2G is reasonable |
| 04:56.29 | mindjuju | k, thx |
| 04:58.07 | herlo | np |
| 05:01.49 | mindjuju | so i have 25g setup for / (i'm guessing that the OS stuff), 2G setup for Swap and 130G setup for /var (that's the folder for web isn't it?) |
| 05:20.37 | herlo | holy crap! |
| 05:20.52 | herlo | 130G in var? What are you going to hold in tere? |
| 05:29.24 | findlay | mindjuju: I only have 1 G for /, but seperate partitions for /usr, /var, /tmp, /boot, home, and /opt |
| 05:29.50 | findlay | herlo: a monster |
| 05:29.55 | findlay | obvuously |
| 05:30.03 | mindjuju | herlo, photo gallery |
| 05:30.12 | mindjuju | well, in /var/www |
| 05:38.59 | herlo | right |
| 05:39.05 | herlo | but you have 130 |
| 05:39.09 | herlo | g of photos? |
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| 08:16.56 | sontek | encryptz: http://code.friocorte.com/svn/twitter-irssi/branches/sonteks-playground/twitter.pl |
| 08:17.03 | sontek | encryptz: consider my work on your desk! |
| 08:17.04 | sontek | ;) |
| 08:17.14 | sontek | It creates a window for you, puts status updates in there |
| 08:17.18 | sontek | and updates every 75 seconds |
| 08:17.23 | sontek | you can also send updates to it |
| 08:17.35 | sontek | and it auto completes nick names when you use @ |
| 08:17.43 | sontek | nothing else is needed! |
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| 14:16.57 | sontek | encryptz: you get it working? |
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| 15:07.13 | d33d | Zelut, if you're around did you ever get your invite to wuala |
| 15:08.23 | Zelut | d33d: I did get one. Would you like one? |
| 15:08.39 | d33d | Just got one. |
| 15:08.46 | d33d | How's it going with that? |
| 15:08.54 | d33d | I'm upgrading to Alpha 101 now. |
| 15:09.25 | d33d | Oh shoot, i should have let you invite me. |
| 15:09.29 | d33d | more gig for you! |
| 15:18.13 | encryptz | Zelut: i don't se usb support for virtualbox-ose, just puel |
| 15:19.27 | d33d | encryptz, interesting I think you're right. |
| 15:19.48 | d33d | can't find it either. |
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| 15:49.27 | synic | wtc, mindjuju is in here? |
| 15:50.01 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 15:50.08 | mindjuju | i'm running an ubuntu 8 server |
| 15:50.27 | synic | I thought you blew that up? |
| 15:50.29 | mindjuju | so i've made the cut for ubuntu wanna-be |
| 15:50.45 | mindjuju | ubuntu trendy-poser |
| 15:50.50 | Zelut | mindjuju: :) |
| 15:50.51 | synic | awh yeah |
| 15:51.05 | mindjuju | if i keep it for more than a month then i graduate to ubuntu youngling |
| 15:51.20 | synic | you also get a nice t-shirt. |
| 15:51.26 | synic | sontek will be providing that. |
| 15:51.36 | mindjuju | synic, i did blow the box away, but that was because I foob'd the settings |
| 15:51.42 | synic | oopsy |
| 15:51.43 | mindjuju | have blown the box away twice yesterday |
| 15:51.54 | mindjuju | we're on ubuntu 8 server install 3 |
| 15:52.14 | mindjuju | and i'm swearing off any tut that isn't connected to the ubuntu site |
| 15:52.15 | Zelut | we really should develop ubuntu 'levels'.. like youngling, n00b, ... black belt ;) |
| 15:52.37 | sontek | gives everyone an openSUSE hoody |
| 15:52.55 | synic | mmk, on a side note. Can anyone recommend a good colo facility in the valley? |
| 15:53.14 | Zelut | xmission? |
| 15:53.32 | mindjuju | xmission rox! |
| 15:53.36 | synic | nah, we're there now. We're out of space in our cabinet, and they don't have any more to give out |
| 15:54.13 | synic | don't get me wrong, they're great. They've just outgrown their building |
| 15:54.28 | sontek | The best in valley is consonus, but cost could be an issue for some |
| 15:54.35 | Zelut | that building looks 100 years old. you'd never guess what was inside |
| 15:54.45 | synic | sontek: where are they? |
| 15:54.51 | sontek | West Valley |
| 15:55.26 | mindjuju | anybody know anything about tier four? |
| 15:55.35 | mindjuju | i know uphpu and utos have servers there |
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| 15:57.36 | sontek | They have them there because they are free ;) |
| 15:57.40 | sontek | but dunno if they are also good |
| 15:58.40 | synic | google says there is no consonsu. |
| 15:58.43 | synic | +s |
| 15:59.12 | sontek | http://www.consonus.com/ |
| 15:59.23 | sontek | They just opened up a new facility too |
| 15:59.46 | synic | west valley would be great. |
| 15:59.51 | synic | (being that our office is there) |
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| 16:24.17 | encryptz | i'm getting a "Connection closed by" error with ssh on hardy. any ideas? |
| 16:24.29 | encryptz | doesn't matter if it's localhost, or remotely |
| 16:26.23 | Zelut | connection closed by is usually sshd settings or host.allow|deny |
| 16:29.45 | encryptz | this is default install |
| 16:29.51 | encryptz | hosts.deny is blank |
| 16:31.16 | synic | holy carp |
| 16:31.24 | synic | our bandwidth usage for 1 month: |
| 16:31.30 | synic | (In) 2182.4921 GB 103.93% (Out) 322.7479 GB 15.37% |
| 16:38.21 | encryptz | could apparmour be getting in the way? if so, what tools to i have to manage it? |
| 16:39.07 | Zelut | apparmour only guards cupsys by default I believe.. |
| 16:41.08 | encryptz | /etc/hosts.deny: blank. no iptables rules. permissions checked. /etc/ssh/sshd_config looks sane |
| 16:41.14 | encryptz | not sure where to turn after this |
| 16:41.42 | Zelut | you just can't ssh into a hardy machine? |
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| 16:42.01 | encryptz | just my laptop. i can ssh into my hardy server |
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| 16:43.11 | encryptz | tail -f /var/log/messages shows something to do with wy thinkfinger |
| 16:43.15 | encryptz | odd |
| 16:43.43 | encryptz | Apr 29 10:43:32 kratos kernel: [53598.146683] input: Virtual ThinkFinger Keyboard as /devices/virtual/input/input41 |
| 16:55.24 | encryptz | yup. known bug in upstream thinkfinger |
| 16:55.41 | encryptz | reinstalling the package, rather than from soure, patched it |
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| 17:33.00 | bigfox | Does anybody know of a good howto for setting up LVM in Ubuntu with the Alternate CD? |
| 17:34.51 | Zelut | bigfox: the default LVM options wont suite you? |
| 17:35.28 | bigfox | The default LVM options only use one of the drives. |
| 17:35.51 | bigfox | Otherwise, the default would be fine. |
| 17:38.08 | Zelut | ahh. I don't know of any graphical how-to walkthroughs, sorry. |
| 17:38.43 | bigfox | It doesn't have to be graphical. I am using the Alternate CD, not the Live CD. |
| 17:43.47 | encryptz | bigfox: hardy? |
| 17:44.48 | encryptz | i'm grabbing the iso now. i'd be interested in learnnig myself |
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| 17:49.49 | bigfox | Yes, hardy |
| 17:50.24 | bigfox | No worries, my boss got it working. |
| 17:51.16 | bigfox | I ran the upgrade process to Hardy on 3 machines so far. Flawless. Absolutely flawless. |
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| 19:39.59 | mheath | bigfox: nice |
| 19:40.19 | mheath | Glad to see they got the bugs ironed out. I had all kinds of problems during my upgrade. |
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| 19:52.55 | bigfox | My only problem with Hardy is that they don't have XMMS in the repos anymore. |
| 19:54.06 | bigfox | Its in the list of available applications in Synaptic, but then when I try to install it, it tells me that it isn't actually available. |
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| 22:52.21 | Heartsbane | Zelut: ping |
| 23:00.19 | Zelut | Heartsbane: pong |
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| 23:07.24 | Technoviking | Pacman |
| 23:08.54 | Heartsbane | Zelut: I heard you mention you have a wuala account is it good? |
| 23:09.12 | Heartsbane | Zelut: I saw talk about it when it was still beta |
| 23:09.35 | Heartsbane | mostly from kkubasik |
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| 23:28.45 | asad | hey guys ! wats up |
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| 23:45.53 | tgelter | hey there asad |
| 23:46.12 | tgelter | man, I love LVM |
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| 23:52.03 | mheath | tgelter: it's great, isn't it? |
| 23:53.00 | mheath | LVM + encryption was a breeze with Ubuntu. |
| 23:53.40 | tgelter | hmm...root's at 90%, no big deal, lvresize, cryptsetup resize, resize2fs, done |
| 23:54.09 | tgelter | yeah, it's good to be a linux user |
| 23:54.19 | mheath | hehe :-) |
| 23:54.58 | asad | gosh I didnt understand that jargon even 1 % |
| 23:55.15 | mheath | asad: LVM is "Linux Volume Manager". |
| 23:55.21 | asad | guess thats the difference between newbies and pros |
| 23:55.26 | Heartsbane | asad: man lvm |
| 23:55.31 | mheath | Essentially, it lets you slice up your hard drive into sections that are managable in lots of powerful ways. |
| 23:55.58 | mheath | You can store data on one of these slices... |
| 23:56.02 | asad | oh you mean its a new partition type ? like ex2/ ex2 |
| 23:56.12 | mheath | Nope, it's lower level than that. |
| 23:56.17 | mheath | It's like partitions. |
| 23:56.20 | mheath | But more powerful. |
| 23:56.54 | mheath | It's like a smart partition - a partition you can resize on the fly, a partition you can do lots of abstract things with. |
| 23:57.15 | asad | oh ok I'll dig into further and read online to get aquainted. All I noticed that 8.04 didnt work well for me . ATI drivers didnt recognize the Compiz and wireless went down . |
| 23:57.26 | tgelter | what's the upstart equivalent to chkconfig? |
| 23:57.31 | asad | ow gonna read it now |
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