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04:04.30 | Heartsbane | oh not bad ... if you have a mute button |
04:04.40 | Heartsbane | night all |
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14:52.17 | mheath | Hmm, this new graphics card has made Compiz effortlessly smooth. |
14:52.19 | mheath | It's amazing. |
15:02.34 | nearn | what kind of card? |
15:04.29 | Yorokobi | guesses it is a video/graphics card. :) |
15:07.13 | mheath | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV42 [GeForce 6800 XT] (rev a2) |
15:07.17 | mheath | With 256MB of RAM |
15:07.48 | Zelut | mheath: now we all know you have a non-free card. that means you can't bitch about it when it stops working. |
15:08.31 | mheath | I have never had a problem with Nvidia or ATI proprietary drivers. |
15:08.35 | mheath | shrugs |
15:08.47 | mheath | And I've been using one of them for a good 6 years now |
15:09.07 | Zelut | I'm just saying.. |
15:27.54 | mheath | Has anyone had any negative experiences with AMD64 Hardy I should know about? |
15:27.58 | mheath | I'm just about to install it... |
15:33.37 | bigfox | AMD64 hardy is working fine for me on 2 computers |
15:34.06 | bigfox | I did the upgrade from 7.10 on both machines. Working perfectly. |
15:34.19 | herlo | he's lying :) |
15:34.29 | herlo | it sucks, use Fedora lol |
15:34.39 | bigfox | All the codecs and flash work, so there aren't any compromises with the 64 bit version like in the past. |
15:35.19 | mheath | bigfox: Yeah |
15:35.25 | mheath | I loved that improvement in Gutsy. |
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15:52.05 | herlo | bleh, you guys use Ubuntu like its Winders |
15:53.46 | nearn | srsly |
15:54.38 | nearn | I wonder how many people in here have used a linux where you had you compile/install your apps instead of using binaries. |
15:54.50 | herlo | me |
15:54.58 | herlo | still do that to a point |
15:55.07 | nearn | that makes 3 that I know of. |
15:55.28 | herlo | fizz? He makes three |
15:55.29 | nearn | herlo: have you ever done a lfs? |
15:55.33 | nearn | no synic |
15:55.34 | herlo | nearn: yes |
15:55.39 | herlo | oh, cool |
15:55.53 | Zelut | anyone who used SLS is the winner (not me) |
15:55.53 | nearn | fizz: used gentoo for a week or less. |
15:55.55 | herlo | nearn: helps you learn why Linux works |
15:56.07 | nearn | I agree. I loved it when I did it. |
15:56.15 | nearn | even though it was very time consuming. |
15:56.38 | herlo | Zelut: the only diff between LFS and SLS is that SLS already had a chrooted system for you. |
15:56.44 | herlo | still had to compile everything |
15:57.09 | Zelut | last time I tried gentoo it took 5 days to build gnome-lite. I can't believe any argument that says that is more efficient. |
15:57.10 | herlo | WindowMaker was fun |
15:57.32 | herlo | Zelut: efficiency wasn't considered until *after* the binaries were built |
15:58.09 | nearn | a correctly setup gentoo box flys |
15:58.13 | mheath | nearn: I do and have. |
15:58.44 | mheath | I've ran Gentoo, several BSD's, LFS, Slackware....Fedora, Redhat, and several others for various lengths of time. |
15:58.54 | mheath | And I love Ubuntu. |
15:59.18 | nearn | I am only using ubuntu untill gentoo gets back on track. |
15:59.24 | mheath | Talking about how DistroA > DistroB, particularlly in a channel with a particular distro in it's name, is one of the stupidest things people can possibly discuss. |
15:59.36 | Zelut | nearn: don't you mean OSX ;) |
15:59.39 | herlo | lol |
15:59.41 | mheath | It's a matter of personal preference |
16:00.25 | nearn | Zelut: on my laptop, yes. |
16:01.04 | nearn | like I said, I really like suspend and I have never had luck with suspend on a linux system before. |
16:01.32 | herlo | mheath: to be honest, Ubuntu wouldn't exist without the basic freedoms set forth by the creators of the FSF. While I disagree with some of the tactics used by RMS to promote software freedom, Linux and most of the distros we run today wouldn't exist without those fundamental principals |
16:02.11 | Zelut | herlo: unfortunately most FSF-types make me want to run away from free software. |
16:02.55 | herlo | problem is, Ubuntu doesn't follow them and tries to appease the Windows user. However, I like their transitionary nature and hope that as free software replacements become stable, Ubuntu will adopt them and become less a transition and more a Linux |
16:03.15 | herlo | Zelut: that's why I said I don't like their tactics |
16:03.22 | nearn | aww come on, you love richard stallman. |
16:03.47 | throck | richard stallman and herlo: bff |
16:04.29 | nearn | aww cute |
16:04.53 | herlo | throck: lolol |
16:04.57 | Zelut | herlo + RMS == sontek + kkubasik |
16:05.06 | herlo | lol, NOT even close |
16:05.30 | mheath | herlo: Thats the thing, it's necessary for Linux to continue moving forward |
16:05.48 | mheath | While I wish that the entire world would instantly start using only free formats and free software, it isn't going to happen. |
16:06.04 | herlo | I guess that's what I get for trying to convince the Ubuntu users. |
16:06.33 | Zelut | herlo: I think ubuntu is trying to accomplish the free-software goal, but had to use some blobs to get there. |
16:06.34 | herlo | mheath: I don't disagree with the tactics, I just wish people who came into Ubuntu were better educated about the freedoms |
16:06.45 | herlo | Zelut: right, just want more |
16:06.51 | herlo | always wants more :) |
16:07.06 | nearn | who doesn't? |
16:07.15 | herlo | bigfox always stays away from discussing freedomes |
16:07.24 | herlo | s/es/s/ |
16:07.29 | Zelut | I don't think most people give a shit. they just want their computer to work. |
16:07.32 | mheath | herlo: I think it would be better to point users to more of the excellent documentation Ubuntu has on converting to free formats |
16:07.36 | herlo | Zelut: but they should |
16:07.42 | mheath | And on the benefits of free software alternatives. |
16:07.42 | Zelut | nearn: case in point. your suspend/resume. |
16:07.44 | herlo | mheath: agreed |
16:08.03 | mheath | I just got done converting all of my .mp3's to .ogg :-) |
16:08.13 | mheath | All of my office stuff is in Open Office |
16:08.27 | throck | mheath: so are you sharing the script you used for the conversion? |
16:08.31 | mheath | And its completely documented on the Ubuntu wiki how to do all this. |
16:08.36 | mheath | throck: theres a tool to do it, really easily. |
16:08.50 | mheath | soundconverter I think it's called |
16:08.56 | herlo | Zelut: the thing is, if we convert these people from the Windows world, and they start demanding non-free components, are we really helping anyone? It just means that Canonical will be the 800lb gorilla. In fact, they can start charging for things that are still desired and are not free in the distro |
16:08.57 | mheath | sudo apt-get installl soundconverter |
16:09.18 | mheath | ITs a GUI...tell it where your mp3s are, tell it where you want to output, tell it the quality, and it goes. |
16:09.23 | herlo | whether they say they won't or not is actually a moot point when they run out of money |
16:09.35 | mheath | It'll even read tags and organize the output into Artist/Album/foo.ogg directories |
16:09.44 | throck | heh - I already have that one installed too. I think I installed it and then never got around to checking it out. |
16:09.57 | nearn | damn skippy. I think that the gnu and linux kernel are just stepping stones in movement for better written software. frre or not free does not matter, as long as it works and is effecent. |
16:10.10 | herlo | mheath: mp3 is patent encumbered not copyright encumbered. Not that that is better, just that free software tends to focus on software.. |
16:10.22 | Zelut | herlo: our thinking is that we can never pressure companies into doing free drivers unless we have the numbers. we can't get the numbers unless stuff works. |
16:10.48 | mheath | Indeed. |
16:10.52 | herlo | nearn Zelut: until someone decides not to update it anymore. |
16:10.57 | Zelut | herlo: so it is a chicken-and-the-egg problem, but I think it'll work out in the end. |
16:11.08 | herlo | then what? Does Ubuntu have staff enough to write it themselves? |
16:11.35 | Zelut | the manufacturer releases specs and the community maintains the drivers. |
16:11.44 | nearn | herlo: that is how it goes with any software project. |
16:12.10 | Zelut | but until Linux has the numbers to vocally demand that it wont happen. Ubuntu can make it happen by using some non-free in the interim. |
16:12.20 | Zelut | its a necessary evil |
16:12.50 | nearn | I would just like to note that nicotine gum is a god send. |
16:13.08 | mheath | nearn: Indeed it is. |
16:13.16 | mheath | Helped me a lot. |
16:13.33 | nearn | day 4. woot! |
16:13.59 | mheath | Grats |
16:14.07 | mheath | Try not to use too much of the gum |
16:14.13 | mheath | It's easier at first that way but harder later on |
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16:14.30 | nearn | this is what i have been doing. |
16:15.00 | nearn | I only use it when I think "something I need a something smoke" |
16:15.03 | mheath | how much were you smoking before? |
16:15.11 | nearn | 15-20 a day. |
16:16.13 | herlo | sorry, phone call |
16:16.27 | mheath | Best of luck to you. You're almost past the trickiest part - you'll start craving less, etc. soon |
16:16.28 | herlo | mheath: aren't you only 17? |
16:16.40 | mheath | herlo: I'm 19. |
16:16.55 | herlo | mheath: barely old enough to smoke... |
16:16.59 | mheath | herlo: I was active US military, though, when I was 17, and started smoking then. |
16:17.06 | herlo | oops |
16:17.20 | nearn | there needs to be a plug in for jbot where it will replace an "explative' marker with a colorful and pretty words like rainbow and kitty cats. |
16:17.21 | synic | weren't you active, for like... a month? |
16:17.23 | herlo | mheath: ahh, the years of peer pressure |
16:17.31 | mheath | synic: about a year :P |
16:17.40 | mheath | herlo: Meh, kind of, I guess. |
16:18.22 | herlo | mheath: what else would it be? Smoking isn't really good for anyone :) |
16:18.27 | mheath | It was enjoyable. My job was really high-stress at the time, and it helped...... |
16:18.34 | mheath | And the social aspects were enjoyable. |
16:18.35 | herlo | fair enough |
16:18.39 | nearn | that is does. |
16:18.43 | bigfox | Gentoo is dead. |
16:18.47 | herlo | points back to his statement about peer pressure |
16:18.51 | mheath | They limited where you could smoke on base to a few smoke pads.... |
16:18.51 | herlo | bigfox: lol |
16:19.02 | herlo | mheath: yeah, I heard that |
16:19.03 | mheath | So, because everoyne always had to go to the same spot, there was always someone out there |
16:19.13 | herlo | apparently, a lot of places you coulnd't drink either |
16:19.14 | mheath | You could go out at 2AM in the morning and chat while you lit up |
16:19.18 | nearn | bigfox: LIES |
16:19.34 | mheath | But, yeah, it was a stupid habit, and I'm glad I quit. |
16:19.42 | herlo | mheath: is it 2AM? or 2 in the morning?, pick one! |
16:19.56 | mheath | herlo: You thought I was 17? :P I'm getting married in 6 weeks! |
16:20.04 | herlo | mheath: and?? |
16:20.16 | herlo | was married at 19, I don't recommend it |
16:20.21 | mheath | Heh. |
16:20.22 | nearn | ^^ |
16:20.36 | herlo | nearn: not fast enough, or you are mocking me :) |
16:20.42 | nearn | I was in a long term relationship at the age of 21 and boy do i regret it. |
16:20.57 | nearn | not fast enough. |
16:21.02 | herlo | lol |
16:21.05 | mheath | Meh, I love her. |
16:21.09 | nearn | iRsLoW |
16:21.15 | mheath | Sure, theres stuff I'd probably like to experience that I can't now. |
16:21.19 | herlo | mheath: so what is a couple more years then? |
16:21.29 | mheath | shrugs |
16:21.39 | herlo | if she loves you now, and you love her, will that change in two years time? |
16:22.04 | mheath | Too late for that now, anyway :-) |
16:22.09 | herlo | this, btw, is the argument I got from everyone. While valid, I was smarter then all of them... |
16:22.15 | mheath | OKay, be back in a second...hopping over the the AMD64 livecd |
16:22.20 | herlo | at age 24, I was dumb again |
16:22.33 | herlo | mheath: never too late, but I digress... |
16:22.46 | mheath | herlo: my mother-in-law-to-be would kill me if we were to call it off now |
16:22.47 | herlo | back to software FREEDOM! </williamwallace> |
16:22.58 | mheath | Theres like...$4,000 in nonrefundable stuff thats already been paid. |
16:22.58 | herlo | mheath: is your gf pregnant? |
16:23.00 | nearn | hahah! |
16:23.04 | mheath | No. |
16:23.11 | nearn | lafo to the maxo. |
16:23.14 | herlo | then she can do no such thing.. |
16:23.26 | herlo | nearn: ur welcome |
16:23.35 | mheath | okay, back to free software ;-) |
16:23.58 | nearn | o.0 sad. |
16:24.15 | nearn | herlo: I think we need to do dinner after all the meetings. |
16:24.52 | nearn | I have not laughed that hard in a long time. |
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16:26.53 | herlo | nearn: usually we do |
16:27.11 | herlo | nearn: after all ubuntu-utah meets, I've gone to MacCool's |
16:30.59 | mheath_rmt | Hmm, there we go. |
16:31.08 | mheath_rmt | I really need to make it to a Ubuntu-Utah meet. |
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16:42.27 | mheath_rmt | Hmm, is there a way to intall off the internet but use the LiveCD? |
16:42.43 | mheath_rmt | I just found out that there was a small error in burning the CD, apparently... |
16:43.01 | Zelut | mheath_rmt: don't think so.. but you could try to use rtorrent or rsync to fix the CD |
16:43.29 | mheath_rmt | is the installer hardcoded to copy from the CD, then? |
16:43.48 | Zelut | the liveCD yeah |
16:43.53 | mheath_rmt | What would happen if I just commented the CD line in the LiveCDs /etc/apt/sources.list? |
16:43.56 | mheath_rmt | Ah, OK |
16:44.55 | Zelut | I would just try to fix the CD via rsync or something. |
16:45.12 | mheath_rmt | Zelut: Do they have a rsync-accessible copy of the CD somewhere? |
16:45.50 | Zelut | mheath_rmt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage |
16:47.12 | mheath_rmt | Oh, no, thats the whole .iso... |
16:47.16 | mheath_rmt | I already have the CD burned |
16:47.40 | Zelut | then I'd try jigdo to compare the burn and generate a good .iso |
16:47.59 | mheath_rmt | I don't have a working system :P |
16:48.10 | mheath_rmt | I was halfway through the install before IF ound out the CD was corrupt (stupid of me, I know) |
16:51.21 | mheath_rmt | hmm, be right back.. |
17:02.47 | mheath_rmt | Hmm, unionfs is wonderful. |
17:10.53 | nearn | herlo: awesome. I will have to join you guys when you go. |
17:11.09 | herlo | nearn: nice |
17:12.52 | nearn | note: printer techs are really nice guys but wow, some of them are a little slow. |
17:16.06 | mheath_rmt | crosses his finger and prays to the Ubuntu gods |
17:49.34 | fizz | nearn: you said i used gentoo for a week or less? heh. i ran it on that machine for 8-9 months. |
17:56.10 | nearn | fizz: you did? |
17:56.23 | nearn | I didn't hear any emerge bitching though. |
17:58.45 | findlay | viva la gentoo |
17:59.48 | fizz | nearn: that's because once i got it all setup it didn't give me many headaches. |
18:00.25 | fizz | i quit switched back to ubuntu because i hadn't updated the gentoo box in about 2 months. figured it would be easier to start freash. |
18:08.18 | nearn | debates on being a jerk or not. |
18:08.24 | nearn | hmmm. |
18:08.42 | nearn | well then, what it sounds like to me is that you never really used gentoo. |
18:11.38 | nearn | emerge --update --deep world |
18:12.01 | nearn | if you have ran that command then you have ran gentoo. |
18:12.09 | fizz | i used it long enough to know i like having more time to myself. |
18:12.26 | fizz | if i need an application i'd rather have it install right away and work. |
18:12.31 | nearn | meh, you start to compile and walk away. |
18:12.44 | fizz | or i can install, use it, and be done. |
18:12.48 | synic | or... you could stay at your computer and do something productive. |
18:12.50 | Zelut | nearn: ...or a week |
18:12.58 | fizz | synic: i know, right? |
18:14.07 | nearn | and you call your self linux users. |
18:14.10 | synic | what makes compiling for absolutely no reason a real linux user? |
18:14.36 | fizz | seriously. |
18:15.00 | nearn | shakes head. |
18:15.02 | findlay | you're just too afraid of the source :-) |
18:15.18 | fizz | because you like to get things done tomorrow? and we like to get our shit done now? |
18:15.32 | synic | is not afraid of the source :P |
18:15.36 | findlay | what does dung have to do with it? |
18:15.43 | Zelut | nearn: when it takes a week to get gnome-lite compiled we've long ago lost productivity. |
18:15.46 | fizz | sighs |
18:16.26 | nearn | Zelut: its your fault for installing it on a 486. |
18:16.42 | synic | or... your fault for compiling for no reason. |
18:16.53 | Zelut | nearn: as I recall it was a dual-core |
18:17.05 | nearn | synic: I am not listening to you any more. |
18:17.15 | Zelut | I have never been able to get a gui setup on gentoo. stage 3 install is not too tricky, but adding anything useful on top.. |
18:17.20 | synic | you mean you have no retorts to my valid arguments? |
18:17.41 | nearn | no, its people like you who are making the linux world lazy. |
18:17.45 | fizz | yeah, ignoring the voice of reason doesn't make you right. |
18:17.52 | Zelut | I'm willing to try again but I'm not holding my breath. |
18:18.01 | nearn | fizz: when you have done it then you can talk. |
18:18.04 | synic | hold on there fruitcake, I ran gentoo for two years. |
18:18.10 | fizz | nearn: application developers are making the linux world lazy? |
18:18.13 | nearn | Zelut: next time you do let me know and I will help you. |
18:18.15 | synic | and slackware a long time before that |
18:18.30 | Zelut | nearn: I'll do it tonite if you want. Class will be over in three hours. |
18:18.38 | nearn | ok. |
18:18.52 | nearn | I have to be back at the office at 6 but I am free from 3-6 |
18:19.00 | fizz | nearn: i already said i have done it for 8-9 months. |
18:19.07 | nearn | fizz: emerge --update --deep world |
18:19.09 | fizz | only one of those months i didn't update |
18:19.10 | Zelut | nearn: I have a dual-proc (or hyperthreading) Intel Pentium D 2.8GHz with 4G to test on.. |
18:19.12 | nearn | do it then talk |
18:19.24 | fizz | nearn: i did that at least 7 times fruitcake |
18:19.32 | nearn | sweet, it really should not take more then 4 hours to compile xorg and a gui. |
18:19.32 | fizz | so dont think you are so cool. |
18:19.43 | nearn | but I am, remember? |
18:19.48 | fizz | nope. |
18:19.51 | fizz | does not compute |
18:20.02 | nearn | its ok fizz |
18:20.06 | Zelut | goes to get the stage 3 install.. |
18:20.07 | nearn | pats fizzs head. |
18:20.15 | jnbek | passes out FreeBSD CDs |
18:20.19 | fizz | awwwww nearn thinks he is better than everyone. |
18:20.23 | fizz | how unusual |
18:20.24 | fizz | lol |
18:20.37 | nearn | no fizz, just you. |
18:20.44 | fizz | suuuuuuuuuuur. |
18:21.05 | nearn | its ok cupcake, every thing will be all right. |
18:21.13 | fizz | you are acting like you are better than synic too. |
18:21.29 | jnbek | anyone else having problems with audacious just stopping playback randomly after the upgrade to Hardy? |
18:21.30 | nearn | no I listen to synic |
18:21.35 | fizz | so dont be a high and mighty faggot. you are just another geek in a geek channel |
18:21.40 | Zelut | loosk like 2008.0 is still in beta.. wonder if I should stick to 2007.0 |
18:21.43 | synic | jnbek: nay |
18:21.56 | nearn | lets do the 2008.beta-3 |
18:21.58 | Zelut | jnbek: sorry, haven't used audacious |
18:22.17 | Zelut | nearn: I don't see the beta-3 download |
18:22.31 | nearn | fizz: dont get your pannties in a twist just because I egging you on. |
18:22.53 | Zelut | nearn: just beta 2 |
18:22.58 | nearn | hmm. |
18:23.11 | nearn | get that I guess. |
18:23.21 | fizz | nearn: it's cool. keep egging me on and i will continue to use logical thought. oh man i'm going to have a cigarette too. |
18:23.27 | Zelut | nearn: minimal I assume |
18:23.29 | fizz | sweet. smokey. goodness. |
18:23.45 | nearn | yes |
18:30.43 | synic | jnbek: tell me about softupdates |
18:33.32 | mheath_rmt | There we go :-) |
18:33.36 | mheath_rmt | Hopefully this works |
18:33.50 | mheath_rmt | Setup a USB drive install media from the broken LiveCD |
18:33.55 | mheath_rmt | This seems to be working OK so far :-) |
18:38.15 | mheath_rmt | This is actually more responsive than the LiveCD was. |
18:53.08 | synic | anyone know a good doc on creating LSB compliant init scripts? |
18:55.23 | Zelut | nearn: do I have to burn this .iso or can I export the linuxrc and initrd via PXE? |
18:55.52 | mheath_rmt | Zelut: Theres docs on doing it via PXE. |
18:56.05 | mheath_rmt | At least there was when I last ran Gentoo a few years ago |
18:56.34 | Zelut | I'm just wondering if the installer/initrd supports it. With Ubuntu you need the pxe-specific kernel to do it. |
18:56.54 | mheath_rmt | Zelut: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap4 |
19:00.16 | Zelut | reading that reminds me how insanely complicated Gentoo is. |
19:00.30 | mheath_rmt | Haha |
19:00.37 | mheath_rmt | indeed :-) |
19:03.00 | Zelut | if I ever ran a Linux shop and one of my admins setup a production server using Gentoo I'd fire him. |
19:05.44 | tapH20guru | lol |
19:05.55 | mheath_rmt | Hahaha |
19:06.07 | mheath_rmt | Zelut: But the custom compile makes it run faster. We swear! ;-) |
19:07.30 | findlay | Zelut: what if they ran windows? |
19:09.15 | mheath_rmt | mmm |
19:09.16 | Zelut | findlay: they wouldn't be hired in the first place |
19:09.29 | mheath_rmt | 4154 frames in 5.0 seconds = 830.770 FPS |
19:09.39 | mheath_rmt | full screen glxgears :-) |
19:11.04 | nearn | Zelut: I would burn the iso. |
19:11.28 | mheath_rmt | Man |
19:11.37 | mheath_rmt | I still can't figure out why Ubuntu insists my CPU is 1Ghz. |
19:11.52 | mheath_rmt | /proc/cpuinfo says both of the procs are 1Ghz when they most certainly are NOT. |
19:12.03 | Zelut | nearn: I better go hunting for a CDR then.. I pxe all my classrooms generally. |
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21:00.16 | Zelut | well I think cdrecord just ate my CD :( |
21:03.02 | Zelut | is there a USB installer for gentoo because I think cdrecord just ate my last CDR |
21:03.35 | fizz | heh. |
21:03.47 | Zelut | Track 01: 55 of 59 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 91%] 16.1x. |
21:03.53 | Zelut | been sitting there for 5+min |
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21:07.05 | fizz | atoponce: get the paypal stuff up! (nag nag nag) |
21:07.09 | fizz | heh |
21:09.33 | atoponce | heh |
21:09.37 | atoponce | k. doing it now |
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21:15.55 | fizz | atoponce: no way. really? |
21:15.57 | fizz | :) |
21:16.19 | atoponce | fizz: yarly |
21:16.38 | fizz | wooooo |
21:24.18 | atoponce | no, i'm not finished. i don't see how to add images to the menu list |
21:25.20 | atoponce | need to add my paypal button |
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22:00.39 | nearn | ohh my something something, I think I have to sleep now before I lose it completely. |
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23:20.57 | asad | Hi everyone. |
23:21.09 | asad | Is anyone availible for help. I need a lil :) |
23:21.38 | asad | I want to install GRUB on my HD what already has XP on it. Can you tell me the process and I will follow that. |
23:22.19 | peno | the installer will take care of it all for you |
23:22.38 | peno | the ubuntu installer that is |
23:22.49 | asad | but I dont want to install Ubuntu at the moment. only wanna learn if I wanna do it manually |
23:24.03 | asad | ok heres the deal. 1. I make a primary partition of ext3 and what to copy on that |
23:24.17 | peno | not 100% sure there, since I just let the installer do the magic on a dual boot machine. |
23:24.22 | asad | 2. at GRUB> what to type to install / or grub-install ? |
23:24.42 | asad | ok in that case :) can I use the installer and only install GRUB and not UBUNTU ? |
23:24.52 | peno | I've never tried |
23:25.49 | asad | :) thanks I'll give it a try. DO you know who might be able to help me in this . I tried a couple of grub manuals but only issue I am stuck with in the end is how to use GRUB-INSTALL or GRUB> to setup the boot sector |
23:26.41 | peno | looks like you actually want wingrub |
23:27.06 | asad | hmm I think I have tried that before . I'l check that out now. Thank you . |
23:27.31 | peno | I've never used it, so I don't know if it works. :) |
23:27.32 | asad | I was there at the meeting the first time on the release party but didnt really get a chance to meet everyone |
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