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| 05:58.31 | undertakingyou | wow, channel was quite all day |
| 06:02.05 | undertakingyou | Zelut: wanted to say thanks for your blogpost on how to properly do a root shell. I think it was great. |
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| 14:50.54 | Zelut | undertakingyou: no problem |
| 14:52.35 | encryptz | i have a question about that. why not 'sudo su -'? |
| 14:52.47 | encryptz | how does that differ from 'sudo -i'? |
| 14:54.43 | Zelut | I actually can't find a reason why sudo su - doesn't work.. just sudo -i is the suggested method per the sudo documentation.. |
| 14:57.21 | encryptz | it's less typing, but other than that, it process all the same login stuff, and creates a proper root shell |
| 15:19.55 | Zelut | do I really need my feisty/gutsy mirror anymore? |
| 15:20.18 | Zelut | I'm thinking that after LTS that is my new mirror base and build from there.. I don't think I have / will use anything previous now. |
| 15:29.08 | throck | Zelut: I pretty much agree - after I get everything upgraded I won't go backwards on versions. |
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| 16:35.19 | mheath_rmt | Grrr |
| 16:35.22 | mheath_rmt | Wine devs make me angry |
| 16:35.28 | mheath_rmt | I might stop using Windows software |
| 16:35.40 | mheath_rmt | Not because I have anything against Windows software, I just have something against Wine :P |
| 16:39.13 | Zelut | wine is a crutch |
| 16:41.07 | peno | unless it's actual wine, then it's tasty. |
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| 16:47.26 | Hunding | wine...yummm |
| 16:47.43 | undertakingyou | encryptz: ping |
| 16:47.57 | Zelut | sontek: I'm pulling down the 11beta3 DVD now to take a look. Is it going to fantastically break on me in a VM? |
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| 16:58.01 | encryptz | undertakingyou: pong |
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| 17:05.14 | undertakingyou | encryptz: wanted to know you opinion about HP calculators. Specifically the HP 50g |
| 17:05.27 | encryptz | i don't have th 50g, but i love the 49g+ |
| 17:07.56 | undertakingyou | I assume the 49g+ is just a slightly older model? I ask because it looks like I need a calculator and I don't really like the TI's. |
| 17:08.48 | encryptz | yeah. it's a couple years old. findlay has the 50g. you should see what he thinks of it. but i must say, rpn > algebraic any day |
| 17:10.27 | undertakingyou | findlay says that the 50g is like a golden calculating orical sent down from the heavens |
| 17:10.40 | undertakingyou | he didn't really say that but he implied it. |
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| 17:30.26 | encryptz | heh |
| 17:41.58 | sontek | Zelut: I think the majority of testing is done on VM's in the openSUSE world so it should work just fine :) |
| 17:42.08 | sontek | Zelut: are you grabbing livecd or dvd? |
| 17:42.45 | Zelut | sontek: DVD |
| 17:45.07 | Hunding | Where would I go to find a battery for my dell computer, that I could buy & pick up today? |
| 17:45.16 | sontek | Zelut: it should work just fine, You'll probably want to look at this: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.0_dev |
| 17:45.44 | sontek | Zelut: that site shows the *known* annoying bugs that are still in b3 |
| 17:45.51 | sontek | and a lot of already been fixed since the dvd was made :P |
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| 18:05.31 | Zelut | sontek: is it possible install and remove software and customize repositories without using yast? |
| 18:08.50 | sontek | Zelut: yeah, use zypper |
| 18:09.04 | sontek | zypper lr for list repos |
| 18:09.09 | sontek | zypper rr for remove repo |
| 18:09.12 | sontek | zypper ar for add repo |
| 18:09.22 | sontek | mr for modify repo |
| 18:09.25 | sontek | to install zypper in |
| 18:09.29 | sontek | remove zypper rm |
| 18:09.34 | sontek | search zypper se |
| 18:10.05 | sontek | I use yast for some system configuration, but I've never used it for software management |
| 18:10.49 | Zelut | yast always drives me freaking insane. |
| 18:11.41 | sontek | yeah, I can't stand it for software management, thats why i'm glad we are starting to move towards package kit |
| 18:11.56 | sontek | we only use it for update manager right now, but its still better than what we had :P |
| 18:12.27 | sontek | I've never used the GTK yast so i'm not sure how bad its interface is, the ncurses one isn't bad, but still not great |
| 18:17.03 | Zelut | sontek: can I avoid it for everything? ie; i never want to use yast again. |
| 18:21.59 | Zelut | sontek: its just always felt terribly slow and hard to find what I'm looking for. |
| 18:45.01 | sontek | Zelut: you've always been able to avoid it, its just a wrapper around normal app configuration, you can always do things the manual way |
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| 22:42.48 | sontek | synic: ping |
| 23:04.57 | synic | sontek: yo |
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| 23:53.42 | sontek | synic: was wondering what you were doing june 12th =) |
| 23:53.51 | sontek | synic: we are looking for a presenter for utah python user group |