| 02:25.58 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut thenetduck (n=tikiman@c-71-199-29-114.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:27.37 | thenetduck | is anyone from logan around here ? |
| 02:27.44 | thenetduck | I mean... (re-phrase) |
| 02:27.54 | thenetduck | is anyone in here from logan utah ? |
| 02:51.25 | *** part/#ubuntu-us-ut gunny (n=gunny@c-71-199-7-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 03:13.49 | *** part/#ubuntu-us-ut penguinhunters (n=Owner@75-174-61-155.bois.qwest.net) |
| 03:36.25 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Zelut (n=christer@ubuntu/member/zelut) |
| 03:38.10 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Zelut (n=christer@ubuntu/member/zelut) |
| 03:48.57 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Gate (n=gate@unaffiliated/gate) |
| 05:53.21 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Gate (n=gate@unaffiliated/gate) |
| 05:53.40 | *** part/#ubuntu-us-ut Gate (n=gate@unaffiliated/gate) |
| 13:59.28 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut thaddeusq (n=thaddeus@216.49.181.128) |
| 14:19.50 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut mocoloco (n=mocoloco@c-24-10-151-86.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 14:54.33 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut undertakingyou (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 15:37.33 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut |phoenyx| (n=|phoenyx@70.102.172.126) |
| 15:50.43 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut mindjuju (n=mindjuju@76.8.222.130) |
| 16:15.36 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut undertakingyou (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 17:31.56 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Technoviking (n=mike@ubuntu/member/Technoviking) |
| 17:46.59 | nearn | so I went and got the htc G1. |
| 17:47.09 | nearn | they dont have them in slc so they are ordering it for me. |
| 17:47.25 | nearn | some time tomorrow I will have the linux phone. |
| 17:54.01 | eightyeight | nice |
| 17:54.06 | eightyeight | t-mobile? |
| 17:54.28 | eightyeight | is 3g available in the slc area? |
| 17:56.21 | synic | nay |
| 17:56.47 | synic | but... the edge was faster than att's edge while I was playing with it |
| 17:56.59 | eightyeight | it's on edge? |
| 17:57.14 | eightyeight | what are we looking at for speeds? |
| 17:57.30 | eightyeight | i've been holding out. i may make the plunge, if it's worth it |
| 18:14.15 | nearn | I am not sure, they guy said that he has been watching youtube videos on it but it just takes a moment longer. |
| 18:14.24 | nearn | in may he said we will be seeing the g3 network |
| 18:24.27 | synic | march |
| 18:24.49 | synic | wonder what it'll take to get one working on another network |
| 18:24.58 | synic | an unlocked one or whatever. |
| 18:25.23 | nearn | and account with tmobile for over 3 months |
| 18:25.38 | nearn | so you could buy me a new g1 and I would give you mine. |
| 18:25.40 | eightyeight | the phones totally support unlocking them, don't they? |
| 18:39.51 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Claudius (n=User@74.95.52.66) |
| 19:20.01 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut mheath (i=62ca86f9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-256ea07927d09126) |
| 20:02.58 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Yorokobi (n=Colby@unaffiliated/yorokobi) |
| 20:03.22 | Yorokobi | eightyeight, ping |
| 20:19.33 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut mindjuju (n=mindjuju@76.8.222.130) |
| 20:56.18 | eightyeight | Yorokobi: pong |
| 20:56.42 | Yorokobi | Where does one obtain a 256 color xterm? |
| 20:57.10 | eightyeight | it is in the terminfo directory. realized that i should have put that in the post. lemme dig it |
| 20:57.32 | eightyeight | /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm-256color |
| 20:57.34 | eightyeight | and |
| 20:57.40 | eightyeight | /usr/share/terminfo/s/screen-256color |
| 20:57.43 | eightyeight | both must exist |
| 20:57.50 | eightyeight | (on ubuntu, at any event) |
| 20:58.00 | Yorokobi | where do the symlinks point to? |
| 20:58.27 | eightyeight | symlinks? |
| 20:58.53 | Yorokobi | aye, /usr/share/terminfo/x/* are symlinks to /lib/terminfo/x/* |
| 20:59.09 | Yorokobi | /lib/terminfor/x/xterm-256color doesn't exist |
| 20:59.21 | eightyeight | on ubuntu? |
| 20:59.24 | Yorokobi | aye |
| 20:59.34 | Yorokobi | 8.04 |
| 20:59.41 | eightyeight | uhh... hmmm. i have them here... |
| 20:59.44 | eightyeight | digs deeper |
| 21:00.14 | eightyeight | ncurses-term provides the file... |
| 21:00.42 | Yorokobi | installing ... |
| 21:01.03 | eightyeight | and mine aren't symlinks. so, i'm gussing those are in place, until that package is installed? |
| 21:01.16 | eightyeight | i don't remember installing ncurses-term. |
| 21:01.20 | eightyeight | but i guess i did |
| 21:01.46 | Yorokobi | yep, that added a lot of files to /usr/share/terminfo/x/ |
| 21:01.53 | Yorokobi | including xterm-256color |
| 21:02.06 | eightyeight | ok. interesting. i guess i should add an uptade to the post |
| 21:03.22 | eightyeight | done |
| 21:03.42 | Yorokobi | That did the trick. Cool. |
| 21:03.52 | eightyeight | sweet |
| 21:03.54 | Zelut | w00t |
| 21:05.22 | eightyeight | Yorokobi: your comment got caught in my spam filters. removed and approved |
| 21:09.35 | eightyeight | random thought: it would be nice if dpkg kept timestamps in the database, so i could see when i installed a package |
| 21:09.49 | eightyeight | i have no idea when i installed that package |
| 21:22.49 | Yorokobi | eightyeight, OSSEC HIDS sends me an email whenever a package is installed/removed (among other things). |
| 21:23.08 | Yorokobi | not the best solution for keeping track of what you've installed, but it works. |
| 21:24.03 | eightyeight | maybe i should join the dpkg dev team, and patch it |
| 22:28.38 | mheath | eightyeight: good luck :P |
| 22:29.08 | mheath | dpkg is kind of antiquated and crude. Attempts to update any formats or database info go along at a crawl. |
| 22:30.07 | mheath | I was trying to work a while back on some package management related things, and ended up hitting a brick wall with all my ideas on Debian systems because of how limited the dpkg format and database is. |
| 22:55.05 | eightyeight | dpkg can do more than any other package manager out there |
| 22:55.20 | eightyeight | couple that with the apt tools, and you have serious control |
| 22:55.53 | eightyeight | unfortunately, the dpkg devs feel that /var/log/dpkg/dpkg.log is good enough for timestamps, even if they're rotated and old ones deleted |
| 23:01.57 | mheath | eightyeight: thats the problem is the logs and lack of metadata. |
| 23:02.03 | mheath | I'm not knocking the package format, really. |
| 23:02.13 | mheath | It was the lack of logging and metadata that was the roadblock in my interests in it. |
| 23:02.49 | eightyeight | other package managers, such as rpm, do some things correctly, but it does have some road blocks |
| 23:03.07 | eightyeight | but, even with those road blocks, dpkg and the apt-tools, are unparalleled |
| 23:06.37 | mheath | I'd argue with that, but I don't want to open a can of worms :) |
| 23:08.11 | eightyeight | then he quits. i guess he didn't want to go to task. :) |
| 23:23.42 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Zelut (n=christer@ubuntu/member/zelut) |
| 23:24.48 | Zelut | eightyeight: reloading and all my irssi colors are gone :( |
| 23:26.56 | eightyeight | what'd you do? |
| 23:27.51 | Zelut | I restarted with the .screenrc values you posted on your blog and just gave me. |
| 23:28.30 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut mindjuju (n=mindjuju@76.8.222.130) |
| 23:33.27 | *** join/#ubuntu-us-ut Zelut (n=christer@ubuntu/member/zelut) |