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00:17.45Kuyaedzthenetduck: still having trouble?
00:18.02thenetduckyes
00:18.09thenetducknot work...:(
00:18.36Kuyaedzgo down to the server.  Is it online?
00:18.43thenetducki belive so
00:18.45thenetduckits all text based
00:19.00thenetduckno gui on server can i some how get a gui on the server???
00:19.07Kuyaedzyou don't need it
00:19.13thenetduckya thats what i figured
00:19.19Kuyaedzifconfig & see if its got an IP
00:19.28thenetduckdone that it does
00:19.36thenetducksaid its inet is 192.168.2.6
00:19.58Kuyaedzohh, ya know what I'm guessing it is.  do you have ssh installed?
00:20.16thenetduckdoesn't it come all ready installed on a LAMP sever?
00:20.22Kuyaedzdon't think so
00:20.25thenetducklo
00:20.26thenetducklol
00:20.29Kuyaedzgo double check
00:20.33thenetduckwow ok
00:20.41thenetduckwhats the command to install one?
00:20.46thenetducksudo apt-get install ssh?
00:20.56Kuyaedzjust install the ssh package.  apt-get install ssh
00:21.00thenetduckroger
00:30.30thenetduckKuyaedz ok it seems that i didn't have it installed, however i do not belive i am connected to the internet down stairs as when i did a sudo apt-get update it gave me a lot of errors
00:30.44thenetduckso i don't think it's connected...
00:31.09thenetduckssh not work yet but im ganna see if i have to use a eth1 instead of an eth0
00:31.43Kuyaedzwhat does ifconfig say?
00:31.51Kuyaedzif its easier for you you can call me on the phone
01:23.59Kuyaedz-FC5jbot: Kuyaedz
01:30.57Kuyaedzjbot: Kuyaedz
01:30.58jbotmethinks kuyaedz is Koo-yuh-edz\, n. Christer Edwards' online Nick.  From the Pilipino word "Kuya", meaning (roughly) older-brother, and the shortening of the last name Edwards.  Kuyaedz.
01:31.07Kuyaedzsweet
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02:07.20duckyHey Kuyaedz:
02:07.29Kuyaedz-FC5yes
02:07.37ducky? whats with the FC5?
02:07.56Kuyaedz-FC5I'm also logged in on my Fedora Core 5 machine while I learn some more about it..
02:08.09duckyoh interesting
02:08.20duckywhat package manager does fendora use?
02:08.34Kuyaedz-FC5yum
02:08.46duckyoh yummy ....
02:09.04duckywhat is it called when you use vnc viewer over the internet?
02:09.09duckyinstead of just over the network
02:09.13duckyi need to look up how to do that
02:09.53Kuyaedz-FC5you just need to login to your router.  find the port-forwarding option.  point port 5900-5900 to your machine LAN IP
02:10.16duckysounds simple enough
02:15.47Kuyaedz-FC5what router do you use?
02:20.38duckyi use a Belkin
02:21.10Kuyaedz-FC5don't know that I've ever used one of those.. can't help ya there, but it should be pretty easy
02:23.04duckyso what is it doing when i forward my ports
02:24.10Kuyaedz-FC5any connections in or out of your house go thru your router.  if you want a certain machine to handle something, like websites, you need to tell the router to let any website request get thru & into a certain machine
02:24.34Kuyaedz-FC5prior to any port-forwarding its basically a basic firewall.
02:25.42Kuyaedz-FC5if you don't forward the port any VNC request will just hit the router & then go 'poof'.  It stops there & dies
02:27.41duckyok i can't find a place to "port"forward" but i think i foun where i edit stuff... its under the "firewall" section of my router options....
02:27.54duckyone is "aplication gateways"
02:28.04duckythe other is "virtual servers"
02:28.41duckyaplication gateway has these options
02:28.43duckyTrigger
02:28.44duckyStart Port Trigger
02:28.44duckyEnd Port Trigger Type Public Port Public Type Enable
02:28.56Kuyaedz-FC5uhh.. is there an option for remote management?  If so I can take a look if you don't mind
02:29.40duckythe other gives me this option
02:29.41ducky<PROTECTED>
02:30.06duckyumm
02:31.48duckyok i think i found the remote managment place
02:32.11Kuyaedz-FC5should just be an on/off & a username/password setting
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02:38.47duckyim calling belkin and ganna ask them where it is lol
02:38.54twystedew belkin
02:39.19duckyya i know
02:39.23duckyi should have not purchase
02:39.31ducky100% netgear next time
02:39.44twystedi like my dlink cept it restarts when i change alot of things =)
02:39.50Kuyaedz-FC5I'm surprised you actually waste your time on tech support.  Those people are all retards
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02:40.07twysteder
02:40.11duckywell i must be more retarted because i cant find it ... or their software sucks one or the other
02:40.14twystedkuy why are you on FC?!
02:40.22duckyFendora Core
02:40.30twystedhehe
02:40.42Kuyaedz-FC5twysted: just wanted to take something else for a spin on my guineapig box
02:40.50twystedthat poor box =(
02:42.43Kuyaedz-FC5I figured RH & SuSe are the big corporate Linux distros.  Might not be a bad idea to know my way around 'em
02:43.04twystedtheres an easy way to get around them sudo rm -rf /
02:44.54duckyso i guess its the same as the vertual servers
02:45.07twystedbrb
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02:45.44duckyhey i have a good Suse Distro
02:45.52duckythe guy that lives next to me works there
02:45.59duckygot me their "Commerial" copy
02:46.02twystedlol
02:46.04duckyits like 5 cds though
02:46.05duckylol
02:46.12twystedask him for a dvd next time =)
02:46.16Kuyaedz-FC5I believe the commercial copy is the same, minus the support isn't it?
02:46.32duckyi think it comes with a lot of stuff built into it
02:46.35twystedremember ubuntu could be as bad as debian, 7 cds =X
02:46.43duckytwysted i dont have a dvd player
02:47.02duckytwysted isn't debian like 14 cds?
02:47.07Kuyaedz-FC5single CD install is the best way to go.
02:47.16duckyagreed
02:47.32twysted14 with source cds =)
02:47.49duckyeek gades... * thenetduck loves ubuntu
02:48.18duckyhey Kuyaedz can you get xgl to work for Suse?
02:48.21duckyor FC
02:49.04duckyhey on my router do I use tcp or udp ?
02:49.10Kuyaedz-FC5tcp
02:49.50duckyoh ya why does it have to be port 5900-5900?
02:49.54twystedlol
02:49.56twystedit doesnt =)
02:50.04duckyso i can just make whatever up /
02:50.07twystedyea
02:50.14duckyriiight...
02:50.15twystedit can be like 1 - 236243612834076218934567013849751034987510348957103451035134
02:50.22duckyha ha
02:50.27twystedthough belkins suck
02:50.30twystedso your stuck with port 0
02:50.31twysted=)
02:50.37duckytrue that
02:50.39duckywhat?
02:50.44duckyim stuck with port 0 ? ??
02:50.50twystedLOL
02:51.00twystedABSOLUTELY nothing =)
02:51.02duckyaww you making a funny
02:51.12Kuyaedz5900 is the default VNC port, that's why I say use 5900
02:51.18duckyoh makes since
02:51.32duckyif i wanna set up an ssh i should use somthing diffrent then?
02:51.57ducky*thenetduck finally gets twysted 's humor
02:52.14Kuyaedzif you want ssh it defaults on 22
02:52.21duckyok
02:52.27twysted=)
02:56.46duckyok so say im on my computer in orem and i wanna connect with vncviewer to my computer at home
02:56.56duckyi just type in vncviewer
02:57.03duckythen what ip do i type in
02:57.24Kuyaedzvncviewer your.wan.ip
02:58.21duckyok
02:58.38duckyand from there i just type in my LAN ip address i wanna view?
02:59.11Kuyaedzno, if you've setup port forwarding in your router it points it to the LAN IP for you
03:00.42duckysoo.... if i wanna be able to view two diffrent computers at my home at diffrent times....
03:00.56duckyhow would i do that /
03:01.27Kuyaedzsetup each on a different port & specify the port.  ie; to view box1 forward 5900 & box2 forward 5901
03:02.01duckyroger
03:03.13herlo_home_awayKuyaedz, I need to get my mp3's working on Ubuntu tonight any advice?  btw, I haven't even started looking....
03:03.38Kuyaedzherlo_home_away: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats should give you what you need
03:04.05duckyhey how do you do that little * thing
03:04.16Kuyaedzwhat * thing?
03:04.25herlo_homeKuyaedz: txh
03:04.30duckyumm ... where you name doesnt show up but a star does
03:04.35duckyand then some silly message
03:04.45Kuyaedzthat'll give you mp3, aac, flash, all the gstreamer stuff, etc..
03:04.53Kuyaedzducky: type /me <action>
03:05.00herlo_homecool, muchas gracias
03:05.14duckysweet
03:05.56Kuyaedz~lart ducky
03:06.15herlo_home~pimpslap ducky
03:06.17jbotherlo_home pimpslaps ducky.  ouch!
03:06.56Kuyaedz-FC5I just finished setting up synergy between 6 desktops in my office.  I never have to get up :)
03:08.03Kuyaedzgreat.  ducky is greasin' up his "cpu" in public again
03:11.09herlo_homeducky: you realize the interpretation of that that isn't appropriate, right?
03:12.21herlo_homethanx Kuyaedz!
03:12.43Kuyaedzman do I regret teaching him /me
03:12.58duckydoh
03:13.35herlo_homeKuyaedz shouldn't let others talk in third person unless Kuyaedz trusts them to use it judiciously
03:18.04KuyaedzHey where is tristan & linuxalien?
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03:21.53herloKuyaedz, you realize you should change the topic?
03:22.14KuyaedzI thought I did
03:22.44*** topic/#ubuntu-utah by Kuyaedz -> Official channel for ubuntu-utah | Ubuntu users please register on https://launchpad.net/people/utahteam | Team Meet: July 8th, 6:00pm
03:23.09herloahh, much better
03:39.31Kuyaedzstupid DSL
03:40.22duckyhey Kuyaedz in what forum is my usr name going to be in to log into the server
03:40.51KuyaedzI have no idea what you're talking about
03:41.51duckyi mean
03:41.58duckyim trying to log into my website
03:42.06duckyand login not working
03:42.15duckyshould my user name be thenetduck.com ?
04:22.13Kuyaedzit's about freakin' time I got that to work
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06:10.31Kuyaedzcan't sleep..
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12:00.48utahbotIf a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled?
13:56.27*** join/#ubuntu-utah throck (n=aaron@67.182.198.24)
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14:11.02HoneyShivgood morning :)
14:11.27throckmorning
14:14.45HoneyShivhow are you doing today throck?
14:15.18throckNot too bad.  Can't wait for the weekend though.  :)
14:16.51throckAnd it's only Tuesday.
14:23.46HoneyShivi know! it's dragging out
14:33.33HoneyShivanyone going to watch the basketball game tonight?
14:39.05HoneyShivI'll take that as a no...
14:46.46throcksorry  - that would be a no.  :)
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14:49.51HoneyShivhi hell-ro
14:50.16hell-roGood Morning HoneyShiv
14:50.23hell-ro~honeyshiv
14:50.25jboti guess honeyshiv is Kuyaedz ultimate weapon is Carcassonne
14:50.29HoneyShivat work already?
14:50.31hell-royep
14:50.40hell-robeen here since 7:30 actually
14:50.45HoneyShivoh wow
14:50.51HoneyShivthat's early
14:50.54hell-rojust had to do some setup and prep....
14:51.04HoneyShivfor your class?
14:51.09hell-royep
14:51.18hell-rohow are you doing today
14:51.38HoneyShivtoday your first day or was yesterday? I'm doing great...
14:52.07hell-royesterday was, I really bombed so I decided to come in and study more before class
14:52.19throckdid you just start at gurulabs?
14:52.27HoneyShivgood idea
14:52.43hell-rothrock: no, I started here May 1
14:52.57hell-roHoneyShiv, where do you work?
14:53.02throckah - yesterday was your first day of this class.  got it.
14:55.51throckwhich class are you teaching right now?
15:03.10HoneyShivhell-ro: i work at Prosper Learning
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15:21.53HoneyShivhey you!
15:22.01HoneyShiv...kuyaedz
15:22.42Kuyaedzhi
15:23.39hell-roHoneyShiv: what do you do for them?
15:24.37HoneyShivhell-ro: I am the official scheduler... I schedule students with their coaches
15:24.53hell-rocool
15:24.59hell-royou like it?
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15:25.34HoneyShivi guess... it's the atmosphere that I like the best
15:25.40hell-rorelaxed?
15:26.47HoneyShivyeah- and it's 4 girls just talking the day away :) We just found out that 3 out of 5 of us are pregnant- the other 2 are either single or me LOL
15:27.06hell-roso you're not pregnant is what you are saying...
15:27.48HoneyShivright... I'm the only married unpregnant girl... it's kind of funny
15:28.35hell-roIt's probably fun for you to tease the others....
15:29.16hell-rohaha, I'm not morning sick like you....
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15:32.15HoneyShivthey I think they would beat me if I teased them
15:32.43KuyaedzProbably a bad idea to tease a group of pregnant women hell-ro :)
15:33.00Kuyaedzbloated morning sick women.. seriously.  Stay out of the way
15:33.08hell-roKuyaedz, yeah probably, it was just silly me being a man
15:33.12throckI second that.
15:33.24HoneyShivit would've been a sight to see though!
15:33.35Kuyaedzhey throck.  Missed a great BBQ Sat :)
15:33.55throckyeah - but I got to pick up my new TV instead.  :)
15:34.03throckI do wish I could've gone.
15:35.14throckI read some of the blog entries and browsed some of the photos.  Looked like a good time.
15:35.33HoneyShivhell-ro: how is your studying coming along?
15:37.48hell-rogood, I feel much more prepared today
15:37.53hell-rothanx for asking
15:40.15HoneyShivdid you bring candy?
15:40.25HoneyShivthat's always a bouns
15:41.09HoneyShiv*bonus
15:41.47Kuyaedzman am I still tired this morning
15:42.12HoneyShivI am too-
15:42.30hell-roKuyaedz: no candy, but we always provide breakfast like bagels or muffins....
15:42.52throckI got up earlier than usual today, but amazingly I don't feel all that tired.
15:45.31KuyaedzHoneyShiv: Hey, Erik's email is now listed on his site if you want to email him
15:45.52HoneyShivreally? great!
15:47.45HoneyShivhow do you ask a 19yr old boy in france to buy stuff for a 21yr sis in law? hmm...
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15:58.19HoneyShivheel-ro: I had a co worker that would chuck candy at people if they looked bored or like they were going to fall asleep- it was really entertaining
15:58.26HoneyShiv*hell-ro
15:59.14linuxalienHi guys
15:59.25throckmorning
15:59.29HoneyShivhello
15:59.32Kuyaedzhey
15:59.41linuxalienmorning!
15:59.57HoneyShivhow are ya?
16:01.02linuxalienGetting sick I think
16:01.11throckthat's not good.
16:01.28throckThat can't be transmitted over IRC can it?  :)
16:01.38HoneyShivLOL
16:02.10throckWe wouldn't want HoneyShiv to get it and pass it to the pregnant ladies at her office.
16:02.21HoneyShivthat's right!
16:02.41linuxalienYes it can!
16:02.45hell-roHoneyShiv: I am entertaining enough, no candy needed
16:02.54HoneyShivso you think...
16:04.42hell-roHoneyShiv: haha
16:06.10HoneyShivhell-ro: well, good luck...
16:06.56linuxalienI need food!
16:07.49HoneyShivwhen you find some- pass it over here ;)
16:08.08throckjust email it.
16:08.23linuxalienw00r
16:12.20hell-roHoneyShiv: thanx for the luck...
16:12.53HoneyShivanytime, anytime- you'll need it
16:13.24HoneyShivsorry that was mean- I'll be nice now
16:19.14HoneyShivDoes anyone have exciting plans coming up?
16:19.38throckI'm having a birthday party on Saturday.  does that count?
16:20.00HoneyShivyes that does- HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
16:20.24HoneyShivthat's really exciting..
16:20.24throckIt was actually last week, but thanks.  We are still unpacking in our new house so we delayed the party for a bit.
16:20.47throckSo Saturday will be great, and Sunday will hopefully just go away.  :)
16:21.03HoneyShivgood idea- are you inviting your new neighbors to it to get to know than or are they strange?
16:21.36throckMost of my neighbors are 65+.  But the ones who aren't are invited.  I think they are even planning on coming.
16:22.13HoneyShivwow...
16:22.43HoneyShivyou should set up a slip-n-slide... now that would be entertaining
16:23.18throckI wondered the same thing after I moved in.
16:23.56throckWe have a hot tub, basketball court, trampoline (which will probably be off limits - drinking and jumping is not a good idea), dart board, and poker table.
16:24.11throckbut you are right - a slip and slide would be entertaining.
16:24.26HoneyShivsounds like a great party though
16:28.36Kuyaedzhell-ro: do you Gurus do mostly RH support? or..
16:31.16Kuyaedzohh looks like FC/RHEL & SL/SLE
16:33.23hell-roKuyaedz: Mostly yeah, we do also do SUSE stuff
16:33.33hell-robut if you know Linux in general, no real issue
16:34.33KuyaedzWell I'm realizing I mainly know Ubuntu and could use a little more well-rounded experience.
16:34.57throckTry Gentoo.  That'll get you some knowledge.
16:35.11KuyaedzI'm tempted to put SuSe 10  on one of these other machines--have a real inter-racial LAN ;)
16:35.58Kuyaedzthrock: I tried Gentoo for a few hours & it just seemed like a lot of work
16:36.31throckit is a lot of work.  But I learned so much about linux from doing a stage 1 install.
16:36.39hell-rothrock is correct
16:36.40KuyaedzGentoo: the "do-it-yourself" Linux.  Should have called it Home Depot Linux.
16:36.46hell-royou learn a ton
16:37.03throckIt's halfway to Linux-from-scratch I think.
16:37.03hell-roKuyaedz, that would be a TradeMark violation
16:37.11hell-roLFS is good too
16:37.13Kuyaedzyeah yeah
16:37.14hell-rodone both
16:37.36throckI tried LFS once.  I actually got a system up and running.  then it was time for Xwindows, and forget it.  :)
16:45.34HoneyShivi just sent him the phone number ;)
16:46.23Kuyaedzhell-ro: I don't feel terribly qualified.  I have very little FC/RHEL/SUSE experience.
16:46.44HoneyShivbut you should try it out- see if they'll even take ya
16:47.47throckYou may not have the experience on those distros, but do you have the ability to learn them quickly and a general linux background?  Those traits would go a long way I would think.
16:48.00throckNot that I know what guru labs is looking for.
16:51.38HoneyShivI think any company would be willing to train someone who has passion
16:53.07hell-roHoneyShiv: agreed
16:53.20hell-roKuyaedz: You are qualified enough
16:53.38hell-roat least I think so
16:54.44HoneyShivkuyaedz: I know everyone says this - but you really will never know until you try. Plus its natural to doubt your abilities.. doesn't mean you don't have them
16:55.11Kuyaedzhell-ro: that's a little reassuring.
16:55.29throckBesides - the worst that could happen is you don't get the job.  No big deal.  the best that could happen is you get the job.
16:55.42hell-roI think you would be a good presenter
16:56.20Kuyaedzhell-ro: I'll update the 'ol resume today.  Who should I talk to afterwards?
16:56.20HoneyShivwith hell-ro backing you up- what could go wrong? ;)
16:56.42Kuyaedzwhat could go wrong with hell-ro?  /me doesn't have that many fingers to count on
16:56.52HoneyShivlol
16:57.43HoneyShivwe really do like you Hell-ro
16:59.57throckfirst you want help from him to get a job, then you slam him.  hmmm......
17:00.48throck:)
17:00.56Kuyaedzthat's just the relationship we have.. You should have seen me Shiv him at the BBQ (and from that grew the Nick, HoneyShiv)
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17:22.22HoneyShivdoes anyone know why a cd with pictures won't open correctly (it'll be the box with an "x") in windows but will in ubuntu. The cd was also copied in ubuntu
17:23.29Kuyaedzthey don't load in Ubuntu either 'Shiv
17:23.54HoneyShivoh- well they did when I checked them after I copied them
17:25.26HoneyShivoh well
17:42.11HoneyShivhell-ro: let us know how your class goes!
18:17.22HoneyShivwe're boring
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19:33.23hell-roKuyaedz: jobs@gurulabs.com is where you wanna send your resume
19:34.14KuyaedzOk.  I just got called for a second interview at Prosper so I'm going to prep for that today.  I'll see if I can find some resume updating (more geared toward guru) later tonite.
19:40.00throckCongrats Kuyaedz!
19:40.15Kuyaedzthanks
19:44.28Kuyaedz~spell ettiquite
19:44.31hell-roKuyaedz: cool, good luck.  BTW, I mentioned it to Bryan (one of the owners) and he said he'd look for it....
19:45.02throckIt's always good to have a man on the inside.  :)
19:45.08Kuyaedzhell-ro: thanks.  labs sounds like a rad place to work.. If this doesn't work I'd definitely want to go there
19:45.37KuyaedzI'm mainly focusing on Prosper right now for 1) applied first & 2) location.  Bountiful is so freakin' far :)
19:53.51hell-rowell, either way, let me know
19:54.32KuyaedzI will.
19:54.48linuxaliennap time
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19:55.35KuyaedzGame 6 tonite, 8:30 ET
19:56.24throckHas anyone had any success at getting QEMU working with the accelerator?
20:08.00throckI guess not.  :)
20:08.28Kuyaedzyou could ask in #utah
20:08.40Kuyaedza lot more traffic/experience in there
20:36.12Kuyaedz~spell exercize
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20:40.42thenetduckman i love the f12 button on xgl its my favorite button
20:40.55Kuyaedzyou're welcome young paduan
20:41.25thenetduckwell thank you master.....
20:41.42KuyaedzI stopped using it last nite for now.. was having issues with the fade in/out on my chats
20:42.25thenetduckmaster Kuyaedz I wish to set my server up so you can just type my ip address and go to it....
20:42.38thenetduckfor hours of exelent streamed music
20:43.00KuyaedzI'm assuming you don't have a static IP.  I would suggest www.dyndns.org
20:43.11thenetduckya i have to static ip
20:43.22Kuyaedzmy site, http://christer.homeip.net is setup thru them.  You could use http://thenetduck.homeip.net :)
20:43.31Kuyaedzthenetduck: you have a static IP thru qwest/comcast?
20:43.39thenetducknope
20:44.15Kuyaedzdyndns.org allows you to use a name (like those above) along with a dynamic IP address (like those given out with qwest/comcast)
20:44.27thenetducksweeet
20:44.47Kuyaedzgo register at www.dyndns.org & we'll get it setup
20:45.17thenetducksweet.... hey does www.dyndns.org cost money?
20:45.24throcknope
20:45.25Kuyaedznope
20:45.28throckfree!
20:45.28thenetduckrock on
20:45.34Kuyaedznot for the basic service you're looking for
20:47.35thenetduckill brb
20:50.31thenetduckok
20:50.47thenetducknow registered
20:50.59throckjust curious - which domain name did you pick?
20:51.05thenetduckthenetduck
20:51.07thenetducklol
20:51.11thenetduckfor my user
20:51.31throckThat was still available?  Amazing....  :)
20:51.37thenetduckha ha ya
20:51.54thenetducknot many people use www.thenetduck.com or even think of it
20:52.08thenetduckwhen i tell people about my email addrdess they are like ...? /// ??
20:52.18thenetduckthenetduck@gmail.com
20:52.24thenetducki got that too
20:52.28thenetduckand www.thenetduck.com
20:52.49throckso is your dyndns thenetduck.something.com?
20:53.12thenetduckim guessing.. my user name is thenetduck does that make it thenetduck.something.com ??
20:53.30Kuyaedzyou've got to setup the dns service.. let me login & find the link
20:53.31throckAh - you've registered but didn't pick a domain name yet is what it sounds like.
20:53.41thenetduckoh
20:53.42thenetduckok
20:54.01throckbtw - what are you guys using for an irc client?
20:54.02Kuyaedzok, in the top click on 'my services'
20:54.07Kuyaedzthrock: gaim
20:54.30hell-rogaim
20:54.40Kuyaedzthenetduck: then you want Host Level Service, Dynamic DNS
20:55.49thenetduckok i think im there...
20:55.56thenetducki found a place at top that said services
20:56.03thenetduckthen went to Dynamic DNS
20:56.12Kuyaedzyou want to Add a Host
20:56.47throckThat's quite the bio on your website netduck.  ;)
20:57.09thenetduckha ha thank you
20:57.51Kuyaedzthenetduck: I would mention you could host that on your own server now instead of mine, but you do such minimal traffic.. :)
20:58.19thenetducklol
20:58.29thenetduckya im like the only person that has ever seen my webpage
20:58.52thenetduckwhat does enable wild card mean?
20:58.57throckthere is at least 3:  you, me, and kuyaedz.
20:58.59Kuyaedznot sure.. I don't use it
20:59.23throckprobably would allow names like "subdomain.thenetduck.something.com" to still forward.
20:59.38Kuyaedzwas thenetduck.something.tld available?
20:59.38throckBecause long domain names are good and easy to type.
20:59.40hell-rothenetduck: what's your site?
21:00.06thenetduckwww.thenetduck.com
21:00.09thenetduckoh my new one ?
21:00.22thenetduckhey should i have mx backup??
21:00.29KuyaedzI don't use that either
21:00.46hell-ronow 4 have seen it
21:00.50throckI think that's only if you have a redundant mail server somewhere.
21:00.56thenetduckok
21:00.58thenetduckso its
21:01.04throckdrumroll
21:01.10thenetduckthenetduck.homelinux.com
21:01.29throckthat homelinux.com is popular isn't it?  That's where I have mine registered.
21:01.35throckI just don't have anything up right now.
21:01.50Kuyaedzthenetduck: did you forward port 80 to your server?
21:01.55thenetducknot sure if its popluar ... but hey no one has thenetuck.. hehe
21:02.06throckor thenetduck either.
21:02.33thenetduckum.. didn't see that option.. can i still change settings ?
21:02.35hell-rothenetduck: nice bio....
21:02.50throckI said the same thing.  Literally.
21:02.55thenetduckwhere do i change
21:02.58thenetduckya lol
21:03.04throckthenetduck: The port forward is on your router at your house.
21:04.02Kuyaedzthenetduck: where'd you get the pic in the bio?
21:04.05thenetduckdeeeerrr.. lol
21:04.08thenetducki cant think sometimes
21:04.19Kuyaedzyou should swap that pic out for one of 'em from the BBQ & your awesome hat
21:04.49thenetduckha ha
21:04.58thenetducki do love that hat
21:05.06thenetduckits pretty sweet .. made from real hawaians
21:05.35Kuyaedzmeaning its made from hawaiian carcasses or hawaiian people made it?
21:05.45throckThe former I think.
21:06.10KuyaedzI guess thenetduck really does know Kung-Fu.. makes hats out of Islanders
21:06.11thenetducki mean ... made from REAL hawaiians
21:06.19thenetduckha ha
21:06.41KuyaedzI think, again, he's trying to say 'hand crafted by hawaiian people'
21:06.53thenetduckif you guys haven't noticed i say "ha ha" instead of lol most of the time as "lol' is way over used
21:07.01throckha ha
21:07.05thenetducklol
21:07.07thenetduckdoih
21:07.33thenetduckok i forward port
21:07.59Kuyaedzthere it is.. thenetduck's server fully exploitable by the world
21:08.10throckI was thinking that.
21:08.11thenetducksweeeeeet
21:08.19throckThat's nice of you to mirrror the apache docs for them.
21:08.48throckfunny thing is, if you go to http://throckmortons.homelinux.com/ you see the EXACT same page.
21:09.04throckExcept thenetduck is more up to date.
21:09.11Kuyaedz..and neither of your documentation links work
21:09.22thenetduckcrap
21:09.22throckThey work for me.
21:09.24thenetduckwhen i go to
21:09.33thenetduckthenetduck.homelinux.com it goes to my router settings
21:09.52thenetduckbtw if anyone goes to it please dont change anythign
21:09.58thenetducki havent set a pass up yet
21:10.03throckwe don't get that.  the port forward works for us.
21:10.13thenetduckoh well thats good
21:10.48throckyour router is resolving the ip address, and since you are coming from inside it assumes (incorrectly) that you want to manage it.
21:10.49thenetducki wonderwhy i cant view my own page ...
21:10.59thenetduckoh
21:11.02KuyaedzI think both of you need some content.
21:11.13thenetduckha ha
21:11.13throckIsn't that always the case?
21:11.19Kuyaedzthenetduck: try the LAN IP for the machine & you'll see it.  http://192.168.2.6
21:11.41thenetduckok the lan ip works
21:11.52throckhost entry!
21:11.56thenetducksweet
21:12.53thenetduckhey Kuyaedz where did you get the program from managing your music?
21:13.10Kuyaedzso that Phil Windley has blogged 6 times today..
21:13.29Kuyaedzthenetduck: http://www.gnump3d.org/
21:13.39throckI haven't blogged 6 times this YEAR.
21:13.46thenetduck(btw there were these two dudes that told me yesterday that the only way i could get my host online without a static ip was if i purchased a vm from them for like 6.95 a months)
21:13.48thenetducki was like wdf
21:14.08Kuyaedzyeah, we call those people homos
21:14.13thenetduckha ha
21:14.24thenetduckthe were from CA but were hanging out at the #utah
21:14.50thenetduckhere is their webpage ...
21:14.51thenetduckhttp://atarack.com/index.cml
21:15.05throckI think there is real money to be made cleaning up after people like that.
21:15.07thenetduckincase anyone wants to somone exploit it h haha
21:15.16KuyaedzYeah, I've been hearing about those guys in #utah.. don't sound very trustworthy to me.
21:15.20throck"yeah, you got screwed, but I can fix it for $xx"
21:15.42hell-rothrock is that like
21:15.46hell-rofor i in $xx
21:15.47thenetducklol
21:15.47hell-rodo
21:16.06throckdo bill();
21:16.07hell-roopen pocket; withdraw cash; done
21:16.19hell-ro?:
21:16.28KuyaedzI thought it was more like
21:16.31Kuyaedzfor i in $x
21:16.33Kuyaedzdo
21:16.37Kuyaedzbill();
21:16.52Kuyaedzbend over; grab toes; <censored>; done.
21:18.42throckWe all thought that was funny?
21:18.46throckWe must be a bunch of geeks.
21:18.58Kuyaedzyep
21:19.19hell-roof course, because we are
21:20.48thenetduckhey how i copy a program onto my host
21:20.51thenetducki mean .. my server
21:21.04thenetduckfor instance that music streaming program from http://www.gnump3d.org/
21:21.14thenetduckso i can do i make install
21:21.17throckssh, sftp, is the best way imho.
21:21.24Kuyaedzthenetduck: log into your server.  apt-get install gnump3d. forward 8888 to that machien. done
21:21.52thenetduckoh ... its all ready in the repositories?
21:22.19Kuyaedzalmost everything is in there :)
21:22.28thenetducksweeeeeet
21:22.34throckIf it's not in there you don't need it.
21:22.39throckwell..... almost.
21:22.44Kuyaedzpretty much my philosophy
21:23.33thenetduckum said it cant find the package
21:23.56Kuyaedzyou need to edit your sources.list
21:24.48thenetduckright
21:25.19Kuyaedztrying to pull up the link to my list you can base it from
21:26.40throckI can't believe you just said that!! I am so offended.
21:27.04Kuyaedzif its in the bible, its ok
21:27.25Kuyaedz...which pretty much clears a lot of cusswords, adultery & murder :)
21:27.27throckYou can get my sources.list from http://throckmortons.homelinux.com/
21:27.57throckthere you go Kuyaedz - content!
21:28.29Kuyaedzhow 'bout that
21:29.03KuyaedzI realized I could speed up apt by removing the deb-src lines.  I rarely need anything from those anyway..
21:29.25throckI don't mind the extra 3 seconds.  :)
21:29.40throckBut you're right, I don't use those either.
21:30.54throckI think I'm going to try and setup a mail server on that box too.
21:31.07throckI've never done anything with a mail server - should be a good learning experience.
21:32.16throckI figure I'm going to run into one eventually, I better know what I'm doing.
21:32.20thenetduckwhere can i find where to download "or get" the sorce list
21:32.43thenetduckshouldn't it be on the wiki?
21:32.45Kuyaedzthenetduck: your sources.list is in /etc/apt/sources.list.  You just need to add a section
21:33.00thenetduckya .. i mean where can i find the line i need to add
21:33.23Kuyaedzfrom the example throck posted.. you probably need the universe & multiverse lines
21:33.35thenetduckok
21:34.00Kuyaedztime out.. throck is still using Breezy
21:34.17thenetduckright
21:34.19thenetducki need Dapper
21:34.43Kuyaedzcould just %s/breezy/dapper on that line..
21:35.24throcksorry.  forgot about that.  I installed the server before 6.06 was officially released and haven't done a dist-upgrade yet.
21:35.36throckFavorite:  nano or vi?
21:35.41Kuyaedzmy servers aren't upgraded yet either
21:36.02KuyaedzI use nano mainly, but try to use vi to learn it
21:37.08thenetducki hate vi
21:37.12thenetducknano way easier
21:37.26Kuyaedzeasier but not as powerful
21:37.32throckI got hooked on nano when I started with Gentoo.
21:37.46Kuyaedzhttp://christer.pastebin.com/721980
21:37.54Kuyaedzmy sources.list (Dapper) with everything you should need
21:38.54Kuyaedzbrb boys & girls
21:39.30thenetduckroger
21:39.40thenetduckthrock ... look at this error mesage
21:39.41thenetduckSelecting previously deselected package gnump3d.
21:39.41thenetduck(Reading database ... 15966 files and directories currently installed.)
21:39.41thenetduckUnpacking gnump3d (from .../gnump3d_2.9.8-2_all.deb) ...
21:39.41thenetduckSetting up gnump3d (2.9.8-2) ...
21:39.43thenetduckdpkg: error processing gnump3d (--configure):
21:39.45thenetduck<PROTECTED>
21:39.49thenetduckErrors were encountered while processing:
21:39.51thenetduck<PROTECTED>
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21:40.06thenetduckgod dam it
21:40.08thenetducki mean
21:40.09thenetduckdang it
21:40.12thenetduckdang dang dang it
21:40.14thenetduckdoh
21:40.15thenetduckmust
21:40.17thenetduckge
21:40.19thenetduckthe
21:40.19throckNow I'm really offended!
21:40.23thenetduckswear word of the screen
21:40.26thenetduckha
21:40.28thenetducko
21:40.28thenetduckk
21:40.35throckstill on mine.
21:40.35thenetduckmust
21:40.38thenetduckkeep
21:40.39thenetduckg
21:40.40thenetducko
21:40.42thenetducki
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21:40.45thenetduckd
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21:41.13thenetduckh
21:41.15thenetducki
21:41.19thenetduckaaah!
21:42.49throckSo - being new to this group - and I obviously already missed the BBQ - does this group have a monthly meeting?
21:43.20thenetduckya
21:43.25thenetduckwww.ubuntu-utah.org
21:43.30thenetduckit all should be there
21:43.42throckwell right.  maybe I should have checked the website first.  :)
21:44.08thenetduckis ok i ask stupid question all the time  ...
21:44.13thenetducklike all the time
21:44.27thenetduckfor instance.. 10 seconds ago i asked a stupid question
21:44.36thenetduckand in about 2 min im ganna ask another stupid question
21:44.51throckI don't see anything about an upcoming meeting though.  too soon after the bbq?
21:45.16thenetducksecond saturday of every month
21:45.26thenetduckusually at "the pie" inst SLC
21:45.41throckI do remember reading that now.
21:47.12throck<PROTECTED>
21:47.38thenetducknot sure a lot of the work Kuyaedz has been doing
21:47.43thenetduckso
21:47.56throckso, Kuyaedz?
21:47.56thenetduckit getd one but .. i think he need some help
21:48.07thenetduckKuyaedz is the leader
21:48.12thenetduckhes like the head dude
21:48.23thenetduckhe started ubuntu-utah
21:49.19thenetduckbut you probablly all ready knew that?
21:49.29throckpretty much.  :)
21:49.31thenetducklol
21:49.38throckyou mean... ha ha
21:49.41thenetduckright
21:50.57thenetduckya i dont really know what we do at meetings
21:51.05thenetduckthe first meetingi went to was at his house
21:51.17throckand you don't go anymore?
21:51.18thenetduckand we just helped each other configure computers
21:51.27thenetduckno ... i just havent gone because of things
21:51.33thenetducklike i was getting my eagle
21:51.34throckright.
21:51.39thenetduckand in a week im moving to idaho
21:51.40throckwell - congratulations.
21:51.51throckI hope you are wanting to move to idaho.
21:52.10thenetduckwell its for school hehe
21:52.13thenetduckits ganna be cold
21:52.22thenetduckbut i dont care im a computer engineer major
21:52.28thenetduckim just ganna sit inside all day
21:53.30thenetduckyou got dapper on your desktop?
21:54.00throckon my laptop.
21:54.08throcki don't have a desktop.
21:54.19thenetduckare you able to get xgl working on it?
21:54.57throckhaven't tried.
21:55.05throckI don't think I have the ati drivers loaded right.
21:55.48thenetduckyou just need 3d accelleration
21:55.54throckdid I say right?  I meant "at all"
21:55.57thenetduckit should take about an hour to set everything up
21:56.12thenetducklol
21:59.46thenetduckok gtg later bye
22:01.25Kuyaedzback
22:02.40Kuyaedzthrock: per your question about the meets.  The last few have been hang-out meets so everyone can get to know each other.
22:06.28throckcool.
22:20.16throckwell - I'm off to the store.  I have to pick up a high-def pack for my xbox.  I finally got an hdtv.
22:20.37Kuyaedzcool
22:21.20throcklater!
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22:34.08atoponceKuyaedz: using dvorak at all? :)
22:34.49Kuyaedznot lately
22:35.13atoponcegotta give you crap for quitting so early ;)
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22:44.39KuyaedzI know. I know
22:44.49Kuyaedzit was so frustrating going from ~100wpm to 10
22:45.32atoponceyup. i hear ya. even now, i still type slow, but i am about 40 or so
22:47.38atoponcei still use qwerty at work though due to the deadlines
22:51.04atoponcei would probably be faster if it weren't for work
22:51.05atoponce:)
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