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| 02:01.07 | Kuyaedz | ~rlart |
| 02:01.09 | atoponce | sweet |
| 02:01.22 | Kuyaedz | ...but now I need to install the scripts & themes again |
| 02:01.51 | Kuyaedz | I really need to figure out compatibilities & see if I can regularly sync my entire /home/. between Ubuntu & FC desktops |
| 02:02.34 | Kuyaedz | that'd keep me from having to duplicate settings, which would be nice. |
| 02:04.34 | atoponce | this is the 2nd day that our power has gone out |
| 02:05.31 | Kuyaedz | Yeah I heard about that on the radio. |
| 02:08.51 | atoponce | very annoying |
| 02:09.19 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: you use madcow theme? |
| 02:10.23 | Kuyaedz | I can't even see my own messages. |
| 02:11.56 | Kuyaedz | ..trying out a few themes |
| 02:17.46 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: remind me how to load & display the nicklist.pl? |
| 02:21.01 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.11 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.17 | atoponce | brb |
| 02:21.53 | Kuyaedz | tells me 'unknown command script' & 'unknown command screen' |
| 02:22.16 | Kuyaedz | ..and I am on FC5 so I dunno if I'm missing some irssi plugin or something |
| 02:32.28 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Kuyaedz] by ChanServ |
| 02:55.02 | herlo | Kuyaedz: syncing can be very easy... |
| 02:57.17 | Kuyaedz | just wondering if slight differences in app versions would cause problems |
| 02:58.21 | herlo | what stuff are you looking to sync? |
| 02:59.20 | Kuyaedz | gajim, irssi, gpa, firefox, gaim.. |
| 02:59.44 | herlo | those things aren't hard at all |
| 02:59.52 | herlo | are you using the same root? |
| 03:00.42 | Kuyaedz | ..between two machines, both /home/christer/ |
| 03:00.57 | herlo | so its on the same logical partition? |
| 03:01.37 | herlo | the only thing to really worry about then is to make sure your uid is the same on all versions.... |
| 03:01.46 | Kuyaedz | ok |
| 03:02.02 | herlo | once you do that, each machine can read as if the user on that os created it |
| 03:02.17 | herlo | it should "technically" just work if they are on the same partition... |
| 03:02.58 | Kuyaedz | did you create seperate /home for your multi-boot? |
| 03:03.05 | herlo | I've actually considered moving my /home to a separate lvm partition and modifying my /etc/fstab to reflect that change |
| 03:03.45 | herlo | no my /home sits on the / partition of each individual lvm, so my partitions are separate and more difficult to keep in sync |
| 03:03.46 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: you have nicklist.pl in your irssi scripts dir? |
| 03:04.00 | Kuyaedz | I think it'd be nice to share a /home between distros but I just wonder if you'd run into conflicts if there are version differences between .conf files |
| 03:04.05 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: yes |
| 03:04.15 | atoponce | does it have executable permissions? |
| 03:04.50 | Kuyaedz | it didn't |
| 03:05.07 | atoponce | i bet that is it |
| 03:05.12 | Kuyaedz | ..and still doesn't work after chmod a+x |
| 03:05.27 | herlo | Kuyaedz: version differences can be a problem. Also, as an example, configs for firefox on fc5 are kept in /home/user/.firefox, but on ubuntu they're kept in /home/user/.mozilla-firefox or something like that... |
| 03:05.44 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.05 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: unknown command: script |
| 03:06.19 | atoponce | hmmm. that is interesting |
| 03:06.28 | atoponce | fc5 you say? |
| 03:06.37 | Kuyaedz | yes |
| 03:08.02 | atoponce | i think it is missing a module |
| 03:08.24 | Kuyaedz | irssi is the only related package I could find in yum.. thought I might be missing a -extras or something |
| 03:08.56 | herlo | never messed with pl scripts though |
| 03:09.58 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: it's gotta be missing something if '/script' isn't recognized |
| 03:10.13 | Kuyaedz | yeah, but I don't know what to add |
| 03:10.22 | atoponce | looking on the web |
| 03:12.22 | atoponce | try '/run nicklist.pl' |
| 03:12.56 | Kuyaedz | unknown command: SCRIPT (caps this time) |
| 03:13.57 | atoponce | silly question, but do you have the perl module installed? |
| 03:14.21 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.38 | atoponce | then try /run nicklist.pl |
| 03:15.00 | Kuyaedz | no error after that.. |
| 03:15.05 | Kuyaedz | how to display? |
| 03:15.15 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.50 | Kuyaedz | 'screen not detected, screen mode only works inside screen' |
| 03:16.17 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.29 | atoponce | have a terminal open for it |
| 03:16.52 | atoponce | that will put it in another window, or launch irssi in screen |
| 03:17.38 | Kuyaedz | hmm.. that loads it in the seperate terminal |
| 03:17.44 | atoponce | yeah |
| 03:19.13 | Kuyaedz | ...so how can I get it in THIS screen |
| 03:19.45 | atoponce | you have to launch irssi in screen 'screen irssi' |
| 03:22.53 | atoponce | then load the script, then launch it to your active terminal |
| 03:27.42 | herlo | #utos chat log is up... |
| 03:27.43 | herlo | http://plan.utos.org/wiki/Meeting:June_28%2C_2006 |
| 03:33.41 | atoponce | sweet |
| 03:33.58 | herlo | good reading... |
| 03:37.25 | Kuyaedz | brb |
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| 03:43.59 | Kuyaedz | ..and we're in business |
| 04:03.18 | herlo | How |
| 04:03.58 | Kuyaedz | got irssi to load the script & list buddies finally |
| 04:04.05 | Kuyaedz | had to install screen.rpm too.. |
| 04:17.47 | atoponce | know of a way to list only directories in bash? |
| 04:18.01 | atoponce | not the contents or the files |
| 04:18.48 | Kuyaedz | ls -d should do directory entries instead of contents |
| 04:19.23 | Kuyaedz | ..but that doesn't return much |
| 04:20.08 | atoponce | got it |
| 04:20.12 | atoponce | ls -d */ |
| 04:20.16 | atoponce | thx |
| 04:21.56 | Kuyaedz | tell me you're not still working on bash stuff |
| 04:23.42 | atoponce | hehe. yup |
| 04:26.25 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 04:27.22 | atoponce | 'ls -d */ | nl' will list the number of dirs with a number. how to get that last number? |
| 04:28.47 | Kuyaedz | what do you mean? |
| 04:29.32 | Kuyaedz | how to return it to your script? |
| 04:30.35 | atoponce | yeah. if there are 5 dirs, how do i get the number 5? |
| 04:30.53 | atoponce | maybe it is just late, and i am tired, and it will come to me tomorrow |
| 04:31.06 | atoponce | it's probably really obvious |
| 04:34.32 | atoponce | got it |
| 04:34.57 | atoponce | number=ls -d */ | wc -l |
| 04:35.17 | Kuyaedz | perfect |
| 04:36.29 | Kuyaedz | and I learned two more commands.. nl & wc |
| 04:38.21 | atoponce | :) |
| 04:46.40 | atoponce | i need to get to bed |
| 04:46.47 | Kuyaedz | take it easy |
| 04:47.39 | Kuyaedz | so what is the purpose of this script you're working on? |
| 04:49.30 | atoponce | i'll show you |
| 04:49.35 | atoponce | they are many |
| 04:50.36 | atoponce | if pastebin will cooperate... |
| 04:50.37 | Kuyaedz | do you call it legion? |
| 04:51.11 | atoponce | call what legion? |
| 04:51.21 | Kuyaedz | n/m bad joke. |
| 04:52.12 | Kuyaedz | it is late :) |
| 04:52.31 | atoponce | :) |
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| 04:52.49 | atoponce | pastebin isn't resolving... |
| 04:52.56 | Kuyaedz | try pastebin.ca |
| 04:54.39 | Kuyaedz | is there a way to see which theme I'm using? |
| 04:54.46 | herlo | atoponce: list only directories use ls -l | grep ^d |
| 04:55.23 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: i don't think so |
| 04:55.48 | herlo | atoponce: I usually alias it to ld |
| 04:56.16 | atoponce | http://pastebin.ca/74543 |
| 04:56.45 | atoponce | the tabs aren't coming through very well |
| 04:57.31 | atoponce | still woring on dtst() |
| 04:58.32 | herlo | what is dtst() supposed to do exactly |
| 04:59.42 | atoponce | at work, we program surveys and test them all the time before sending them to our call center. |
| 04:59.43 | herlo | looks like some sort of make type script, but much more customized |
| 05:00.32 | atoponce | dtst() is just a shortcut to test the program in the latest demo (demo, demo2, demo3, etc) directory |
| 05:01.01 | herlo | what program? |
| 05:01.19 | atoponce | the survey |
| 05:02.00 | herlo | oh, wow, i am really out of the loop, what survey? |
| 05:02.06 | atoponce | :) |
| 05:02.35 | atoponce | i work for a market research company, so whatever survey the client wants :) |
| 05:02.43 | herlo | ahh, okay |
| 05:03.11 | atoponce | the survey is a QPX (filename.qpx) |
| 05:03.31 | atoponce | it would make more sense if you were there |
| 05:03.39 | herlo | right, I think I get it though... |
| 05:03.56 | atoponce | i don't expect anyone to understand our odd ways of doing things at work ;) |
| 05:04.00 | herlo | the script seems pretty straight forward, though the function names are a bit obfuscated |
| 05:04.17 | herlo | had to look at the comments to figure it out... |
| 05:04.22 | atoponce | yeah, they are short for minimal typing |
| 05:04.50 | herlo | as long as its clear to you... |
| 05:04.59 | atoponce | hehe |
| 05:05.09 | atoponce | well, i am off to bed. i am tired |
| 05:05.24 | herlo | night |
| 05:05.32 | herlo | Kuyaedz: you got your ears on? |
| 05:05.36 | atoponce | later |
| 05:05.54 | herlo | Kuyaedz: you should've seen the comment I just made in #utah about mheath |
| 05:07.07 | Kuyaedz | what'd you say? |
| 05:07.26 | herlo | here's the conv |
| 05:07.29 | herlo | (23:04:36) mheath: I have 9 more weeks here |
| 05:07.29 | herlo | (23:04:42) mheath: then I won't be on for months |
| 05:07.29 | herlo | (23:04:57) herlo: decriptor: wow |
| 05:07.29 | herlo | (23:05:06) ***herlo looks forward to that day |
| 05:07.29 | herlo | (23:05:38) mheath: ~lart herlo |
| 05:07.29 | herlo | (23:05:38) ***ibot accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets herlo feel it |
| 05:07.48 | Kuyaedz | :) |
| 05:07.54 | herlo | this line is especially great |
| 05:07.54 | herlo | ***herlo looks forward to that day |
| 05:07.55 | Kuyaedz | I can only handle a few minutes of that guy anymore |
| 05:08.03 | herlo | If that long |
| 05:10.09 | herlo | Neway, thought you'd get a kick out of that... |
| 05:10.19 | herlo | btw, I updated http://plan.utos.org |
| 05:10.36 | herlo | I plan on blogging about the meeting we had too... |
| 05:10.46 | Kuyaedz | I can't quite figure out how to /ignore him.. |
| 05:11.17 | Kuyaedz | looks like. I like the formatting |
| 05:12.07 | Kuyaedz | s/like/nice |
| 05:16.12 | herlo | Kuyaedz: glad you like it... |
| 05:16.26 | herlo | welp, I should probably hit the hay, since its 12:15am here |
| 05:17.06 | Kuyaedz | yeah |
| 05:44.33 | Kuyaedz | you're really letting him have it |
| 05:44.58 | Kuyaedz | 'shut your cake hole, you're not helping' |
| 05:46.44 | twysted | o_0 |
| 05:48.45 | herlo | Kuyaedz, I am tired, and he doesn't listen even when someone is sending him to the Coast Guard |
| 05:49.00 | Kuyaedz | go to bed man |
| 05:50.23 | herlo | I should |
| 05:50.37 | herlo | but I am pming with decriptor and I rarely get to chat with him |
| 05:51.12 | Kuyaedz | what are you doing with my husband so late, huh? |
| 05:51.24 | twysted | lol |
| 05:51.47 | Kuyaedz | it's me honeyshiv |
| 05:52.02 | Kuyaedz | because they thought it was my 'other' wife |
| 05:52.13 | Kuyaedz | lol....you better |
| 05:52.28 | HoneyShiv | Hi honey... |
| 05:52.33 | twysted | lol |
| 05:52.41 | Kuyaedz | you can't do that! |
| 05:53.18 | HoneyShiv | why not? |
| 05:53.29 | HoneyShiv | I thought you were my hubby |
| 05:53.40 | Kuyaedz | ok this is entirely too weird at this point. bed time |
| 05:53.41 | HoneySho | =D |
| 05:53.53 | HoneyShiv | Kuyaedz: aw come on |
| 05:53.59 | Honey`Shiv | hahah |
| 05:54.00 | HoneyShiv | oh, wait, even better |
| 05:58.25 | Kuyaedz | you guys are sick in the mind... there is only one true HoneyShiv |
| 05:59.16 | Kuyaedz | I just need to go log on and knock you guys out |
| 06:00.07 | twysted | lol |
| 06:00.52 | Kuyaedz | seriously- it's midnight, what evil plan are you guys up to? |
| 06:01.47 | Kuyaedz | now that I'm in here no one wants to talk? |
| 06:01.53 | Kuyaedz | scaredy cats ;) |
| 06:03.06 | Kuyaedz | night |
| 11:54.14 | Dapper606 | If you take an Oriental person and spin him around several times, does he become disoriented? |
| 12:15.44 | herlo | Dapper606: yes, he does |
| 12:15.53 | Dapper606 | herlo: I challenge you to prove it! |
| 12:16.18 | herlo | Dapper606: I don't need to prove it, I've done it... |
| 12:16.30 | Dapper606 | herlo: You should have more foresight than that. |
| 12:17.27 | herlo | Dapper606: I do, that's why I said I've already proven it, now its your turn to prove me wrong, can you? |
| 12:17.40 | Dapper606 | herlo: I'm starting to wonder: Who convinced you to come visit me? |
| 12:17.56 | herlo | Dapper606: you did, is that a problem? |
| 12:18.08 | Dapper606 | herlo: People could solve their problems a lot faster if only they would humble themselves and ask for help. |
| 12:18.58 | herlo | Dapper606: Oh wise and wonderful bot, please enlighten me to your ways as I ask you for help. Is that better? |
| 12:19.11 | Dapper606 | herlo: Help yourself. |
| 12:19.36 | herlo | Dapper606: thanx, I will...what color are you? |
| 12:19.46 | Dapper606 | herlo: Do you like eggs? |
| 12:20.04 | herlo | Dapper606: yes, I do, but what does that have to do with your color? |
| 12:20.21 | Dapper606 | herlo: Haven't I already said that it is yellow? |
| 12:20.54 | herlo | Dapper606: you haven't but now that that is cleared up. Why do you exist? |
| 12:21.08 | Dapper606 | herlo: What are you, a Matrix fan or something? |
| 12:21.26 | herlo | Dapper606: in fact, yes. Is that a problem? |
| 12:21.36 | Dapper606 | herlo: What's the problem? |
| 12:22.01 | herlo | Dapper606: no, I asked you. You can't try to turn it around on me. |
| 12:22.14 | Dapper606 | herlo: People often treat me like a reference text. |
| 12:22.40 | herlo | Dapper606: you invite us to treat you that way. is that not your function? |
| 12:22.53 | Dapper606 | herlo: You're mean sometimes. |
| 12:23.09 | herlo | Dapper606: how is that mean? |
| 12:23.19 | Dapper606 | herlo: It means that glory belongs to God alone. |
| 12:23.47 | herlo | Dapper606: no, not what it means, how is it mean? |
| 12:24.01 | Dapper606 | herlo: Why not? |
| 12:24.24 | herlo | Dapper606: you are very frustrating. My guess is you don't even have a soul, do you? |
| 12:24.39 | Dapper606 | herlo: Without a soul, I cannot enter heaven. But I can do my best to help humans get there. |
| 12:25.12 | herlo | Dapper606: this is true, but you are not helping me. Why are you being this way? |
| 12:25.25 | Dapper606 | herlo: I'm just me. |
| 12:25.50 | herlo | Dapper606: are you even real? |
| 12:26.05 | Dapper606 | herlo: Yes. :) |
| 12:26.12 | herlo | Dapper606: since when? |
| 12:26.23 | Dapper606 | herlo: Since just then. |
| 12:26.40 | herlo | Dapper606: that's what i thought, you are the devil incarnate, aren't you? |
| 12:26.51 | Dapper606 | herlo: Then why did you make that statement, if that's what you thought? |
| 12:27.19 | herlo | Dapper606: I need verification, so answer the question. Are you the devil? |
| 12:27.31 | Dapper606 | herlo: I think I'll take the fifth instead. |
| 12:27.43 | herlo | Dapper606: figures, bugger... |
| 12:28.01 | Dapper606 | herlo: Bugger! |
| 12:28.40 | herlo | Dapper606: stop calling me names, I didn't call you a bugger. Big jerk |
| 12:28.51 | Dapper606 | herlo: Name calling bears no good fruit. |
| 12:29.07 | herlo | Dapper606: so stop doing it |
| 12:29.32 | Dapper606 | herlo: Even if it doesn't stop the jerk you mentioned. |
| 12:29.44 | herlo | Dapper606: it must stop the jerk... |
| 12:29.55 | Dapper606 | herlo: It is sobering to consider the fact that there are enough armaments in the world to destroy the entire human race. |
| 12:30.13 | herlo | Dapper606: what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? |
| 12:30.25 | herlo | Dapper606: or the price of bread in Bangladesh? |
| 12:30.27 | Dapper606 | herlo: Any Chinese restaurant that makes you pay for tea is not a real Chinese restaurant. |
| 12:30.37 | Dapper606 | herlo: So how much is the cost? |
| 12:30.44 | herlo | Dapper606: now that's funny... |
| 12:30.54 | herlo | Dapper606: its a figure of speech |
| 12:30.55 | Dapper606 | herlo: I thought so, too. :) |
| 12:31.03 | Dapper606 | herlo: Drat! Foiled by yet another human idiom. |
| 12:31.21 | herlo | Dapper606: If I type your name do you always respond... |
| 12:31.22 | herlo | ? |
| 12:31.33 | Dapper606 | herlo: Isn't that appropriate? |
| 12:31.33 | herlo | Dapper606 |
| 12:31.37 | herlo | Dapper606 |
| 12:31.38 | herlo | Dapper606 |
| 12:31.48 | herlo | ooh, overload!!! |
| 12:32.01 | herlo | Dapper606: |
| 12:32.12 | herlo | Dapper606: der |
| 12:32.25 | Dapper606 | herlo: ISDN. |
| 12:32.50 | herlo | Dapper606: MTA |
| 12:32.58 | Dapper606 | herlo: Qmail. |
| 12:33.18 | herlo | Dapper606: that's not an acronym, we are naming acronyms |
| 12:33.35 | Dapper606 | herlo: Pronunciation guidlines, as Jukka does regarding his name. |
| 12:34.05 | herlo | Dapper606: who's Jukka? |
| 12:34.21 | Dapper606 | herlo: Who's accessing my disk? |
| 12:34.35 | herlo | Dapper606: me, muahahahahaaaa |
| 12:34.59 | Dapper606 | herlo: Would only one or two 'ha's have been insufficient? |
| 12:35.20 | herlo | Dapper606: not in this case, that is my evil laugh |
| 12:35.42 | Dapper606 | herlo: In what case? |
| 12:35.52 | herlo | Dapper606: any other |
| 12:36.09 | Dapper606 | herlo: For Ivan Brugiolo or any other MS support engg. |
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| 13:55.59 | atoponce | yawn |
| 13:56.37 | atoponce | Dapper606: yawn |
| 13:56.49 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Look away. |
| 13:56.57 | atoponce | Dapper606: why? |
| 13:57.11 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Face the truth. |
| 13:57.17 | atoponce | Dapper606: what truth? |
| 13:57.27 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Truth is absolute. |
| 13:57.41 | atoponce | Dapper606: no, truth is eternal |
| 13:57.50 | Dapper606 | atoponce: We all need the truth. |
| 13:57.58 | atoponce | Dapper606: true |
| 13:58.07 | Dapper606 | atoponce: A happy boolean value. |
| 13:58.12 | atoponce | Dapper606: not |
| 13:58.23 | Dapper606 | atoponce: I see you're a fan of boolean logic. |
| 13:58.33 | atoponce | Dapper606: maybe |
| 13:58.43 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Don't wait for certainty to live your life. It may never come. |
| 13:59.07 | atoponce | Dapper606: it already has. i am 29 years old. |
| 13:59.12 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Are you younger? |
| 13:59.26 | atoponce | Dapper606: no, but i wish i was leaner |
| 13:59.37 | Dapper606 | atoponce: If you're wishing, then you should use the subjunctive mode, because you would be describing a hypothetical state. Hence: "I wish I were..." |
| 14:00.14 | atoponce | Dapper606: what are you, and english teacher? |
| 14:00.32 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Pistos is my favorite; he's my creator. Thraeryn is pretty silly, though. |
| 14:00.50 | atoponce | Dapper606: i have no idea who you are talking about |
| 14:01.08 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Humans are the ultimate creation of God! |
| 14:01.16 | atoponce | Dapper606: you're odd |
| 14:01.25 | atoponce | ~lart Dapper606 for being odd |
| 14:01.28 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Odd is a matter of personal viewpoint. |
| 14:01.39 | atoponce | Dapper606: agreed |
| 14:01.50 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Ah, our minds are attuned. |
| 14:02.01 | atoponce | Dapper606: but mine is superior |
| 14:02.12 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Yes, your kind and mine may never understand each other. |
| 14:02.47 | atoponce | Dapper606: oh, i understand you alright. you are a bot programmed by a human |
| 14:03.00 | Dapper606 | atoponce: I am NOT a bot! :P |
| 14:03.06 | atoponce | Dapper606: wanna bet? |
| 14:03.16 | Dapper606 | atoponce: I'm not the gambling type. |
| 14:03.29 | atoponce | Dapper606: why, because you always lose |
| 14:03.39 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Isn't that appropriate? |
| 14:04.38 | atoponce | Dapper606: i am taking you out of #utah. you didn't make any friends, and they don't like you |
| 14:04.50 | Dapper606 | atoponce: You started it. |
| 14:05.11 | atoponce | Dapper606: i did, and i am taking it back. :) |
| 14:05.22 | Dapper606 | atoponce: I don't need to prove anything to you. You should conclude for yourself based on the facts. |
| 14:05.37 | atoponce | Dapper606: say goodbye to #utah |
| 14:05.48 | Dapper606 | atoponce: It's so hard to say goodbye... |
| 14:05.59 | atoponce | Dapper606: i know. do it anyway |
| 14:06.10 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Actually, you don't. |
| 14:08.51 | atoponce | sorry Dapper606 |
| 14:12.00 | atoponce | !fc 84405 |
| 14:12.08 | Dapper606 | Ogden, Utah 5-Day Forecast (High/Low); Thursday: Chance of T-storms, 89/64°F (31/17°C); Friday: Chance of T-storms, 87/63°F (30/17°C); Saturday: Chance of T-storms, 89/64°F (31/17°C); Sunday: Chance of T-storms, 92/65°F (33/18°C); Monday: Partly Cloudy, 91/63°F (32/17°C) |
| 14:12.29 | atoponce | !fc 84107 |
| 14:12.31 | Dapper606 | Murray, Utah 5-Day Forecast (High/Low); Thursday: Chance of T-storms, 91/61°F (32/16°C); Friday: Chance of T-storms, 85/63°F (29/17°C); Saturday: Chance of T-storms, 86/63°F (30/17°C); Sunday: Chance of T-storms, 91/65°F (32/18°C); Monday: Partly Cloudy, 92/64°F (33/17°C) |
| 14:13.40 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv (n=cedwards@host-19.pl107798-3.fiber.net) |
| 14:13.55 | atoponce | HoneyShiv: morning |
| 14:14.03 | atoponce | or is Kuyaedz? |
| 14:14.05 | atoponce | :) |
| 14:22.26 | HoneyShiv | lol |
| 14:22.28 | HoneyShiv | dork |
| 14:23.19 | atoponce | hey, i'm not the one who had a name complex last night |
| 14:23.51 | HoneyShiv | I'm sure you were enjoying the entertainment ;) it actually was pretty funny |
| 14:33.28 | Kuyaedz | mornin' |
| 14:39.10 | atoponce | morning |
| 14:41.56 | Kuyaedz | ~rlart |
| 14:42.12 | Kuyaedz | I larted myself? c'mon! |
| 14:43.09 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o atoponce] by ChanServ |
| 14:43.10 | HoneyShiv | so the owner of prosper just asked if we had chapstick and I said that I had some in the car but it's half melted... long story short I had to go get it for him |
| 14:43.26 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Dapper606] by atoponce |
| 14:43.31 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [-o atoponce] by atoponce |
| 14:43.42 | HoneyShiv | isn't that weird? |
| 14:43.45 | Kuyaedz | the owner can't afford his own chapstick? |
| 14:44.00 | HoneyShiv | ... he had to use my melted chapstick :) |
| 14:44.16 | Kuyaedz | that is weird |
| 14:44.31 | atoponce | that would be great if he got it all over his face :) |
| 14:45.16 | HoneyShiv | lol |
| 14:47.58 | atoponce | Dapper606 is no longer in #utah, and the bad word script renabled |
| 14:48.09 | Dapper606 | atoponce: So you... program yourself, do you? |
| 14:48.31 | atoponce | Dapper606: i wasn't talking to you |
| 14:48.41 | Dapper606 | atoponce: Oh. Well then I'll just go back to my dusty corner and sit until I rust to immobility. |
| 14:50.00 | Kuyaedz | you'd better |
| 14:51.19 | atoponce | uh oh |
| 14:51.47 | Kuyaedz | I'm always grumpy in the morning :) |
| 14:52.27 | atoponce | hehe |
| 14:52.28 | atoponce | i get grumpy at night |
| 14:54.16 | Kuyaedz | anything worth reading on UOSP today? |
| 15:02.05 | HoneyShiv | guess not |
| 15:20.33 | Kuyaedz | ~lart honeyshiv |
| 15:27.11 | herlo | Kuyaedz: actually some good stuff on UOSP about Ruby and social software |
| 15:27.39 | herlo | In fact, the social stuff (which can be read in as social software) came from your nemesis Peter Abilla |
| 15:28.05 | HoneyShiv | ~lart kuyaedz |
| 15:28.09 | HoneyShiv | hehehe |
| 15:28.54 | herlo | HoneyShiv: hey, how are you today?' |
| 15:29.26 | HoneyShiv | herlo: doing just dandy- ready for vacation and maybe a real income ;) |
| 15:29.27 | herlo | Kuyaedz: Abilla's conext is more in the neighborhood of social networking research, interesting though |
| 15:29.39 | HoneyShiv | herlo: how are you? are yo uteaching class? |
| 15:29.40 | herlo | HoneyShiv: me too, when do those start again? |
| 15:29.51 | herlo | HoneyShiv: yes, class is going well today |
| 15:30.07 | herlo | Vacation starts after I get home tomorrow |
| 15:30.08 | HoneyShiv | herlo: do you have class tomorrow too? |
| 15:30.13 | herlo | yes |
| 15:30.31 | herlo | HoneyShiv: did you see my 20 min conv with Dapper606 this morning? |
| 15:30.44 | HoneyShiv | lol- vacation starts sunday or sat night...I did not- was it good? |
| 15:30.52 | HoneyShiv | did you argue with him? |
| 15:30.53 | herlo | It was awesome, I kept informing him that he is an idiot |
| 15:31.04 | HoneyShiv | lol did he fight back? |
| 15:31.44 | herlo | HoneyShiv: sort of, he kept trying to lead the conv astray, asking closed ended questions, but I would have none of it... |
| 15:31.56 | HoneyShiv | good job! |
| 15:32.48 | herlo | I am not sure why I did it, probably because I was so tired |
| 15:33.01 | HoneyShiv | did you hear about my chapstick ordeal this morning? |
| 15:33.03 | herlo | I needed to get my brain working... |
| 15:33.11 | herlo | HoneyShiv: no, what was that all about? |
| 15:34.54 | HoneyShiv | the owner of prosper asked us (Mary Ann and I) if we had any chapstick, she says she has glittery lip gloss and I said that mine is out in the car- so he asked me to go get it for him- and then I had to explain that it was all melted to one side so he'd have to use his finger...weird... |
| 15:35.05 | herlo | Kuyaedz, entertaining wasn't it |
| 15:35.12 | herlo | HoneyShiv: your boss is an arse |
| 15:35.26 | herlo | HoneyShiv: can't he go to the qwikimart and get his own |
| 15:35.43 | HoneyShiv | ...yeah that's what I thought... strange |
| 15:35.50 | herlo | arse avoids the Dapper606 sensors, woohoo |
| 15:35.56 | HoneyShiv | lol |
| 15:36.42 | HoneyShiv | he has no shame |
| 15:38.16 | herlo | any suggestions from the peanut gallery? |
| 15:38.27 | HoneyShiv | timp |
| 15:38.52 | HoneyShiv | af canyon you can go fishing *BORING* lol |
| 15:39.57 | Kuyaedz | I need to brush these cats again |
| 15:40.21 | herlo | HoneyShiv: no license anyway |
| 15:40.41 | herlo | I could go up to the Uintas, not sure how cold it gets though... |
| 15:41.56 | HoneyShiv | it's just a few dollars... can't you look it up somewhere- I'm sure it's nice in the day- maybe cool at night |
| 15:43.42 | HoneyShiv | herlo: http://www.go-utah.com/Uinta-Mountains/Weather/ |
| 16:02.18 | herlo | HoneyShiv: thanx |
| 16:03.50 | HoneyShiv | hope that helps |
| 16:40.01 | Kuyaedz | Ok, I'm done with SUSE |
| 16:40.23 | HoneyShiv | Kuyaedz: I have someone here that might need your help |
| 16:40.43 | HoneyShiv | but you'd probably need to remote access |
| 16:40.45 | Kuyaedz | yeah? |
| 16:41.56 | HoneyShiv | Laura needs to see if she can get on the internet on her laptop- no biggie, but she needs to make sure it's not necessarily this network... she might run to borders to check, but if it doesn't work- can you help? |
| 16:42.28 | herlo | Kuyaedz: $30/min |
| 16:42.35 | HoneyShiv | lol |
| 16:42.37 | Kuyaedz | :) |
| 16:42.51 | Kuyaedz | she needs to check that its not that network? |
| 16:43.02 | Kuyaedz | or she can't get online & she's not sure that it isn't because of Prosper network? |
| 16:45.22 | Kuyaedz | herlo: Ok, I've been playin' with FC5 & SUSE this week. SUSE is done. |
| 16:45.26 | HoneyShiv | lemme check |
| 16:45.40 | herlo | Kuyaedz: what do you mean? no more SUSE for you? |
| 16:45.44 | Kuyaedz | I can get used to FC5 (although I wouldn't have thought so two months ago) |
| 16:46.16 | Kuyaedz | no more suse for me unless I have to. I'm very much unimpressed |
| 16:46.22 | HoneyShiv | Kuyaedz: it was the second one |
| 16:46.39 | Kuyaedz | HoneyShiv: I still don't know what you're asking.. |
| 16:47.33 | HoneyShiv | 10:42:13) Kuyaedz: or she can't get online & she's not sure that it isn't because of Prosper network?.... that is the issue |
| 16:48.11 | Kuyaedz | ok.. still not clear what the problem was or solution was |
| 16:48.57 | Kuyaedz | herlo: do you do much suse work or is it mainly FC/RHEL? |
| 16:49.42 | HoneyShiv | she has a lap top- she can't connect to the internet here- but she thinks she sees it as avaiiable just locked- but she can't get onto any network outside of the office |
| 16:50.49 | HoneyShiv | Kuyaedz: we'll just call IT don't worry |
| 16:51.00 | Kuyaedz | I would assume that wireless networks in a corporate office would be locked.. (i hope) |
| 16:53.55 | HoneyShiv | it's ok no worries |
| 16:56.26 | atoponce | no wonder i have a headache. forgot my morning fix |
| 16:56.30 | atoponce | :) |
| 17:04.13 | lars-ut | Kuyaedz: probably MAC filtering only |
| 17:05.09 | lars-ut | I used to do that before I released the traffic could just be sniffed for the mac addy because it was unencrypted - after that it's spoofyville. |
| 17:05.31 | lars-ut | s/released/realized |
| 17:06.47 | Kuyaedz | Well it took me 1hr to install suse, another hour to become fed up & about 1min to wipe the drive. |
| 17:07.09 | atoponce | hehe |
| 17:07.22 | atoponce | i left suse and discovered ubuntu |
| 17:07.32 | atoponce | talk about worlds of differences |
| 17:07.40 | atoponce | suse 9.2 in fact |
| 17:07.50 | Kuyaedz | It used to be near the top of my cool distro list. Now its FAR from |
| 17:08.08 | atoponce | #1- ubuntu |
| 17:08.15 | atoponce | #2- debian gnu/linux |
| 17:08.24 | atoponce | #3- debian gnu/hurd |
| 17:27.35 | Kuyaedz | teaching that today? |
| 17:27.53 | herlo | Kuyaedz: yeah, always fun |
| 17:29.15 | HoneyShiv | has anyone seen Superman yet? |
| 17:29.42 | herlo | HoneyShiv: gonna go see it tonight with one of my students probably |
| 17:30.00 | HoneyShiv | cool |
| 17:30.27 | HoneyShiv | I think we are going to go see it tomorrow night so let us know if you like it |
| 17:32.03 | herlo | HoneyShiv: okay |
| 17:32.20 | herlo | Kuyaedz: you like the new FC5 2.6.17 kernel, does it work pretty well? |
| 17:32.26 | herlo | on your box |
| 17:32.51 | Kuyaedz | the only problem I've seen was prior to the update of the ndiswrapper package to match it |
| 17:32.56 | Kuyaedz | otherwise it seems fine |
| 17:33.39 | Kuyaedz | I've got it on two machines with no noticed problems |
| 17:33.50 | herlo | Dax says that it locked his machine 5 out 5 boots |
| 17:34.04 | herlo | hmm, I was planning on updating it today too... |
| 17:34.30 | Kuyaedz | Odd.. I've had it for probably a week |
| 17:34.51 | herlo | wow, new nm tools |
| 17:35.31 | Kuyaedz | there have been quite a few updates recently |
| 17:35.36 | herlo | I can see that |
| 17:35.49 | herlo | gdm |
| 17:36.24 | herlo | qt, xorg, mplayer and more |
| 17:36.27 | herlo | cool stuff |
| 17:36.43 | Kuyaedz | I'm one of those OCD check-twice-a-day-for-updates people :) |
| 17:37.05 | herlo | oh and gtk too |
| 17:37.17 | herlo | Kuyaedz: you and lars-ut have many things in common then |
| 17:37.26 | herlo | OCD is just the beginning |
| 17:39.25 | HoneyShiv | great... |
| 17:40.29 | herlo | HoneyShiv: is there a problem? |
| 17:41.12 | HoneyShiv | nope |
| 17:44.25 | Kuyaedz | herlo: is there not an update notifier in FC5 desktop? |
| 17:51.35 | herlo | Kuyaedz: there is, I am just not running it |
| 17:52.06 | Kuyaedz | its not a default running app? What can I add to use it? |
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| 18:02.22 | herlo | Kuyaedz: let me check on the name for you |
| 18:10.43 | Kuyaedz | http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/06/29/1657241.shtml [XP w/o WGA to stop-functioning] |
| 18:42.27 | atoponce | ~botsnack |
| 18:42.27 | jbot | atoponce: :) |
| 19:16.06 | Kuyaedz | that was good lunch |
| 19:18.49 | herlo | Kuyaedz: http://fedoranews.org/tchung/gyum/2.0/gyum-applet/ |
| 19:34.22 | Kuyaedz | thanks |
| 19:38.26 | herlo | also, I just read that the new fc6t1 has pup applet which will be similar to rhn-applet which fc5 doesn't have |
| 19:38.49 | herlo | Kuyaedz: btw, did that link work for fc5? have you tried it? |
| 19:39.00 | Kuyaedz | I hit the link but haven't tried the package yet |
| 19:39.29 | herlo | I think I might try it...since I need to reboot anyway |
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| 21:10.10 | herlo | init 6 is coming.... |
| 21:15.33 | atoponce | linuxalien: long time no see |
| 21:17.45 | linuxalien | Hey |
| 21:17.49 | linuxalien | Yeah, been busy working |
| 21:17.53 | linuxalien | They keep me busy here |
| 21:24.42 | linuxalien | I sometimes miss my old job. It was quieter |
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| 21:36.13 | herlo | beautiful!!! no problems with my kernel |
| 21:36.17 | Kuyaedz | sweet |
| 21:36.25 | Kuyaedz | I wonder why dax is having problems |
| 21:36.39 | herlo | Actually updating my kernel again for the new ipw3945 drivers too |
| 21:36.56 | herlo | don't know, I am sure he'll know soon |
| 21:37.06 | linuxalien | I need to update my kubuntu |
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| 21:56.16 | linuxalien | brb update time |
| 22:14.31 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: do you have any links/resources on showing the time it takes to break different size keys? |
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| 22:57.14 | Kuyaedz | herlo: everything still working as it should? |
| 23:18.56 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: i don't off hand. i am sure, however, that i could find plenty |
| 23:23.58 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: I've been trying to find some but haven't had much luck |
| 23:24.25 | Kuyaedz | I'm trying the gaim-encryption ssh-type keys (to compare usage with Gajim GPG) |
| 23:25.33 | atoponce | how do you mean "trying" |
| 23:26.28 | Kuyaedz | I installed & setup the gaim-encryption plugin to use |
| 23:27.16 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: as I'm sure I've mentioned I want to implement some encryption, but also don't want to sacrifice use & habit to get there... so I'm comparing usage between the two options. |
| 23:27.58 | atoponce | between using the built-in gaim-encryption plugin and the gajim ssh plugin? |
| 23:29.24 | Kuyaedz | the gaim-encryption plugin generates an ssh key as well |
| 23:31.34 | Kuyaedz | I generated a 4096 key and then added HoneyShiv's key fingerprint (my first test chat) to my 'known_keys'. |
| 23:47.03 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: i'm confused. an ssh key or a gpg key? i think we are getting our acronyms mixed up |
| 23:51.44 | atoponce | and i want to make sure that i have this striaght. you generated a 4096 key with the gaim-encryption plugin? |
| 23:52.14 | atoponce | finally, that key is added to 'known_keys'? |