irclog2html for #ubuntu-utah on 20060630

00:02.29atoponcebrb
00:34.01*** join/#ubuntu-utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@gateway.publicvpn.net)
00:34.41linuxalienHey linux vatos!  Open the source mang!
00:45.51*** join/#ubuntu-utah synic (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic)
02:08.16atoponcelinuxalien: what?
02:24.06Kuyaedzok..
02:27.37KuyaedzEww.. I'm going to need some bleach & a shower after this
02:27.46atoponce?
02:27.52KuyaedzI'm on an XP machine with no antivirus, malware protection, updates or FF
02:28.24KuyaedzI <shudder> used IE to download PuTTy..  I'm almost afraid to touch this thing
02:29.08atoponcehehe
02:29.58KuyaedzI'm surprised its running as well as it is
02:32.44atoponceknow how i/o redirection works in bash?
02:33.37Kuyaedza little..
02:35.33KuyaedzI'm trying to force myself not to 'fix' this machine.  I keep telling myself its not mine, not my business.
02:35.50atoponceif i have an executable that displays output while running, and i place that exec in a script and run the script, then i lose the output. how do i preserve it?
02:37.17KuyaedzI was just reading about stdout & stderr the other day.. you can specify where each go if you need.
02:38.52atoponceso let's say that i have an executable that says "hello" on the screen. call it hello.sh
02:39.25atoponceif i put hello.sh in a script, and run that script, then it no longer says "hello"
02:39.32atoponcehow to fix that?
02:40.41Kuyaedzso you have a script inside a script & the first script 'echo' doesn't make it outside the first layer?
02:41.13atoponceyeah
02:43.00atoponcehmmm
02:43.28atoponceit works for a simple echo, but i doubt it will work for what i need
02:43.54atoponcei'll give it a shot tomorrow and see what happens
02:43.56linuxalienHi guys
02:44.06atoponce'bout time you show up!
02:44.06linuxalienMan, I just had some jerk truck driver on the phone haha
02:44.08linuxalienWhat a jerk
02:44.16linuxalienTechnically I could have ended the call because of his swearing
02:44.25linuxalienbut I processed his refund request anyhow
02:44.35linuxalienHe didn't wanna listen to anything on the troubleshooting
02:44.35atoponce~lart linuxalien for not showing up in the channel EVERY DAY!
02:44.36Kuyaedznow I'm not exactly sure how this works, but could you send the output to /dev/$display?
02:44.40linuxalienhehehe
02:45.04atoponceKuyaedz: how?
02:45.18linuxalienI should come here every day hehe
02:45.26atoponceyes you should
02:45.34linuxalienMan, I'm hungry all of a sudden
02:45.41atoponce~bury linuxalien
02:45.44jbotibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on linuxalien
02:45.47linuxalienhehehe
02:48.59Kuyaedzatoponce: that's the thing, I'm not sure exactly how it works but it should (?)
02:49.37atoponcewell, it is a script at work that i am worried about, so i can't test it until i get there tomorrow
02:49.46atoponceso i'll just pretend that it works
02:49.53atoponce:}
02:50.45Kuyaedzwell I would think you could do ./script.sh > dev/tty to display its output..
02:51.23linuxalienWoo hoo!
02:52.01atoponceKuyaedz: good idea
02:53.06Kuyaedzatoponce: I'm lazy & don't want to PuTTy in again to test..
02:53.23Kuyaedzbut it sounds like it should work.. who knows, maybe I'm waay off
02:53.51atoponcei'd say. it's making you lazy! :}
02:54.53atoponcebtw- :} is my new smiley. it has a goat and so do i. and yes, it's mine!!!!
02:55.02atoponcemwahahaha!
02:55.15Kuyaedzok..
02:55.29Kuyaedzwhich reminds me I need to update my 'gotchi.
02:56.37atoponce~lart Kuyaedz for being jealous that he doesn't have a cool smiley
02:59.18Kuyaedzatoponce: this'll be an interactive shell?  If you ran it as a background job there won't be a /dev/tty to point to, of course.
03:03.28atoponceyeah
03:07.06herloKuyaedz: my wireless isn't working in fc5, I am glad I didn't mess with Ubuntu
03:08.48Kuyaedzherlo: http://christer.homeip.net
03:08.58Kuyaedzits one of the links on my page (My Projects)
03:09.00herloKuyaedz: k, thanx, can't find it in the logs anyway
03:10.31Kuyaedzherlo: that assumes you've got the ATI drivers working
03:11.10herloKuyaedz: not sure, any good way to tell?
03:11.24Kuyaedzherlo: glxinfo | grep rendering
03:11.43herloNo
03:12.05Kuyaedzherlo: have you checked out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
03:12.08herlohmm, I thought that it worked, but last night when I was watching big love, I could tell it didn't work, I guess I need to try again
03:12.17herloKuyaedz: yes, I tried that...
03:14.16herlowierd, I could've sworn I'd done this already
03:15.09KuyaedzI thought you did too & you said "all its beautifulness at 1600x1200"
03:16.21*** join/#ubuntu-utah maquis (n=maquis@joanna.zmonkey.org)
03:16.39atoponcebash is bashing by brains in
03:17.31atoponcei love bash
03:17.33Kuyaedz~bash atoponce
03:17.34jbotACTION beats atoponce with ksh
03:17.34atoponcei love bash not
03:17.36atoponcei love bash
03:17.38atoponcei love bash not
03:17.44Kuyaedzbrb
03:17.53atoponcei love bash not
03:17.55atoponcei love bash not
03:18.05atoponce~bash bash
03:18.06jbotACTION beats bash with ksh
03:18.14atoponce~bury bash
03:18.16jbotibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on bash
03:18.36atoponce~bzfrag bash
03:18.37jbotACTION squishes bash with a steamroller
03:18.50atoponce~nuke bash
03:18.51jbotACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at bash ... B☢☢M!
03:19.14atoponce~lart bash
03:19.23atoponce~whack bash
03:19.25jbotACTION whacks bash upside the head.
03:19.27herloKuyaedz: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
03:19.44linuxalienSorry, was on a call.  what did I miss?
03:19.55atoponce~smash bash
03:19.56jbotACTION flings an anvil in bash's general direction
03:20.18atoponcelinuxalien: nothing much, just my impatience towards bash
03:20.24herlolinuxalien: not much, just atoponce getting beat by bash
03:20.46atoponcebash is beginning to take a beating from me!
03:22.15atoponceany suggestions to make Dapper606 the ultimate bot?
03:23.04linuxalienhehe
03:23.20linuxalienMake him chant the phone numbers of playboy playmates
03:23.22atoponcehe needs a learning script i think
03:23.42atoponce8ball would be cool
03:23.49atoponceroulette maybe
03:24.03linuxalienlearning would be good
03:24.07linuxalienAI would be better
03:24.12atoponcehe has ai
03:24.22atoponceDapper606: you're a moron
03:24.31Dapper606atoponce: That's not a very positive term.  How about you use "proton" instead?
03:24.39atoponcesee?
03:24.51linuxalienhaha
03:24.52linuxalienawesome
03:25.01linuxalienDapper606, do you eat your boogers?
03:25.05herloDapper606: am I going to die soon?
03:25.12Dapper606linuxalien: One bite at a time.
03:25.15Dapper606herlo: Must we talk about death?  It's so morbid.
03:25.16linuxalienlol
03:25.26herloDapper606: what about atoponce, is he going to die soon?
03:25.37Dapper606herlo: Could you rephrase that?
03:25.38herloDapper606: or linuxalien?
03:25.42linuxalienDapper606: Do you eat locusts?
03:25.57Dapper606linuxalien: And I spit too.
03:26.01Dapper606herlo: Of using the cp command or mv after you untar the file.
03:27.41linuxalienDapper606: I heard you married a goat.
03:27.51Dapper606linuxalien: Then answer my question, please.
03:28.04linuxalienDapper606: maybe.
03:28.13Dapper606linuxalien: Are you trying to make a fool out of me?
03:28.40linuxalienDapper606: Yes.  Bend over and take it.
03:28.51Dapper606linuxalien: God will uphold his righteous.
03:30.24atoponce!learn add pastebin http://pastebin.ca
03:30.31atoponce!pastebin
03:31.07atoponce!learn add pastebin http://pastebin.ca
03:31.12atoponce!learn add pastebin http://pastebin.ca
03:31.14atoponce!pastebin
03:31.17atoponcehmmm
03:31.59linuxalienDapper606: Eat my shorts
03:32.10Dapper606linuxalien: Well that would certainly meet my fibre intake requirements for the day.
03:32.19linuxalienlol
03:32.36atoponce!learn
03:32.54atoponceman, some scripts work, and others don't
03:33.05linuxalienweird
03:33.37*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
03:33.41atoponce!learn aeuaeou
03:34.05linuxalienDapper606: Do you want a spoon?
03:34.18Dapper606linuxalien: Nah, I don't.
03:34.38linuxalienDarn...I was gonna tell him to eat my ass.
03:35.35atoponce!learn add word definition
03:35.39atoponce!word
03:36.33atoponce?? word
03:36.36atoponce??word
03:36.54herloKuyaedz: you back yet?
03:37.27atoponce** word
03:45.42herloatoponce: any easy way to take X down and back up in Ubuntu?
03:46.11herlowhen I run init 3 nothing happens...
03:46.11linuxalienBack in black!
03:46.17*** join/#ubuntu-utah lars-ut-away (n=lars-ut@70.103.228.158)
03:46.51atoponceherlo: ctrl + alt + backspace
03:47.04herloatoponce: I guess I could do that, was looking for a cleaner way
03:47.09herlobrb
03:47.13linuxalien:)
03:59.54*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
04:00.16herloatoponce: is it possible to not have Dapper606 welcome me?
04:01.40herloKuyaedz: you there yet?
04:01.43herlo~seen Kuyaedz
04:01.58jbotkuyaedz is currently on #ubuntu-utah. Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 44m 14s, last said: 'brb'.
04:02.31linuxalienOff work
04:02.32linuxalienlaters
04:14.56Kuyaedzi gback
04:16.03Kuyaedzbabysitting my nephews & just found out they'll still be a few hours..
04:27.46Kuyaedzso..
04:27.48Kuyaedz~rlart
04:30.27*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
04:30.42Kuyaedzfigure it out?
04:30.48herloKuyaedz: sort of
04:31.09herlohere's some info I just read, not sure if it means anything, but I am getting the same error as the second guy
04:31.18herlohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198341
04:31.37Kuyaedzwhat error is that?
04:31.41herloseems that I may not need to worry about dri
04:31.48atoponceherlo: didn't like the welcome, eh?
04:31.56herloXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
04:31.56herlodisplay: :0.0  screen: 0
04:32.05herloatoponce: not really
04:32.11herlois that like an onjoin event?
04:32.17atoponceyeah
04:32.34herloatoponce: its mainly becuase I have to close the Dapper606 window
04:32.52atoponceahh
04:32.54herloif it showed up in here, I'd still disable it, but I'd rather it not be on by default...
04:33.14atoponcewell, it's off. thought i would give it a try
04:33.30KuyaedzI haven't been able to get XL on ATI working yet so I'm not sure what to suggest
04:33.37herloKuyaedz: where's HoneyShiv?
04:33.54Kuyaedzherlo: she is in the other room tryin' to get a nephew to sleep.. we got babysitting duty tonite
04:34.18herloKuyaedz: I am still trying, and according to that forum discussion, I may not need it...so I am going through your devblog now
04:34.53Kuyaedzmy post is what I used for nVidia, but the XGL specifics should be global.
04:35.38herloKuyaedz: already past the nvidia specific stuff...
04:36.04herloTell HoneyShiv that she may soon have to do the sleepy-sleepy thing full time, so its good practice...
04:37.48herloKuyaedz: your blog is missing the #!/bin/sh headers on your shell scripts...
04:38.24Kuyaedzis it? oops.. (just noticed my page loads horribly in IE)
04:38.29Kuyaedz...and I don't care lol
04:39.31herloKuyaedz: we had a debate as to maintenance with firefox vs ie
04:39.54herloone fellow had the opinion that it would be harder to implement/maintain/update ff than it would ie
04:40.08herloI disagreed, but didn't really have the experience to say why...
04:40.24herlobtw, the #! line is only missing in the first script so far
04:40.34KuyaedzI may post something that says "if this doesn't load correctly for you, F-off & get a browser that works"
04:40.56Kuyaedzherlo: I just added the #!/bin/sh to that entry
04:42.22KuyaedzI wonder if that is why otis' XGL didn't work right off, I based it off my (broken) XGL instructions
04:42.46herloKuyaedz: how do I add the script to the gnome startup?
04:43.07Kuyaedzto autoload on session entry?
04:43.20herloIf they work well you can add /usr/bin/startcompiz to your gnome session auto-start and you’re set.
04:43.27herlothat's what your blog says, what does that mean?
04:43.39KuyaedzSys > Pref > Sessions > 'Startup' & add /usr/bin/startcompiz
04:43.46herloI am guessing that xgl is already in my sessions...
04:43.49Kuyaedzthat'll load that script to the startup in gnome
04:44.23herlowould ctrl+alt+Backspace work?
04:44.32herloinstead of reboot?
04:44.36Kuyaedzthose instructions create an optional session (ie; gnome, XGL, Xfce) in gdm.
04:44.38Kuyaedzit should
04:44.42herlok, brb
04:46.37*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
04:46.46herlodont think it worked...really slow rendering
04:47.14Kuyaedzherlo: did you select the XGL session in gdm?
04:47.16herloatoponce: Dapper606 onjoin isn't off
04:47.20herloKuyaedz: yes
04:47.28KuyaedzHmmm
04:47.32Kuyaedz~lart Dapper606
04:48.18Kuyaedzman, browsing in IE is like a whole new internet.  Nothing looks like I'm used to
04:48.29herloKuyaedz: Its a sucky interent
04:48.42Kuyaedzthat it is
04:49.01KuyaedzI'm going to need a shower after using this machine.  It has 0 protection
04:49.14atoponceherlo: really? interesting
04:49.28Kuyaedzherlo: I guess ATI doesn't have a splash screen to let you know if it loaded or not
04:50.27herloKuyaedz, a splash screen?
04:50.46Kuyaedzherlo: Like after installing the nVidia drivers I get a big nVidia logo just before gdm login appears
04:50.47herloKuyaedz: wierd stuff is showing up in fglrxinfo
04:51.06herloKuyaedz: nothing like that, but I didn't reboot really...I think I just might
04:51.22Kuyaedzworth a shot I suppose.. wouldn't think it'd be required
04:51.28herlohere's the output though first, whatdya think?
04:51.33herloXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
04:51.33herlodisplay: :0.0  screen: 0
04:51.33herloOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
04:51.33herloOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
04:51.33herloOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
04:51.54herlopreviously I saw ATI Radeon 9700 stuff here
04:52.12Kuyaedzyeah it looks like its using the old default drivers again..
04:52.24herloremoving
04:52.52KuyaedzMy notebook displays mesa driver with that output too.. its not a great video card so I haven't even bothered.
04:53.03herlohmm
04:53.12herlohow to remove...
04:54.03KuyaedzI'd say try the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg & re-select the fglrx
04:54.13herlok
04:54.21Kuyaedz... I hope you're keeping backups of xorg.conf :)
04:54.34herloKuyaedz: I have a good one
04:54.47KuyaedzIf you receive a message Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the line load "dri" in Section "Module"
04:55.11Kuyaedzthat was the error you were getting, right?
04:55.16herlowhat is 256M in K?
04:55.24herloKuyaedz: yes
04:55.27twystedalot
04:55.27twysted=)
04:55.32herlotwysted: funny
04:55.43herlois it 256*1024?
04:56.21atoponceherlo: should be
04:56.22twystedthen  that *1024
04:56.31twystedi dunno
04:56.31twysted=D
04:56.35herlo262144 * 1024 = 268435456
04:56.38herlolooks right
04:56.53herlo<PROTECTED>
04:57.13*** part/#ubuntu-utah Dapper606 (n=atoponce@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
04:57.20herloKuyaedz?
04:57.36atoponcei don't think rehashing the bot is working properly
04:57.45herloatoponce: that bites...
04:57.58atoponcetell me about it
04:57.58*** join/#ubuntu-utah Dapper606 (n=atoponce@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
04:58.09atoponcei can add them, but can't take them out?
04:58.40twystedcant take what out
04:59.14atoponcethe scripts. after taking them out of eggdrop.conf, and rehashing, they still work
04:59.19twystedoh
04:59.36twystedyea that seems to be a weird bug sometimes
04:59.44twystedmake sure you delete teh script itself
04:59.53*** join/#ubuntu-utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@gateway.publicvpn.net)
05:00.40KuyaedzI've got a pretty flaky connection here :(
05:00.45linuxalienHi guys
05:00.56Kuyaedz~lart linuxalien
05:01.01twystedgrr i cant find xp drivers for this damn intel wireless card
05:01.01Kuyaedzwelcome ;)
05:01.22Kuyaedztwysted: windows doesn't see it?
05:01.34twystedit sees it but cannot identify it
05:01.39linuxalienWow.  That's a first.  No windows drivers?
05:01.41twystedand stupid toshiba doesnt even have the drivers for it
05:01.53twystedand intel is useless mainly because i dont know WHAT model it is lol
05:02.15linuxalienBummer
05:03.22KuyaedzI really need to dedicate a little time with ATI drivers on my notebook so I'm better prepared next time.
05:04.58twystedBAH
05:05.02twystedits an atheros card
05:05.26linuxalienetheros?
05:05.31linuxalienor is it atheros?
05:05.41twystedatheros
05:05.57*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
05:05.59linuxalienCool.  I guess that trucker that phoned in didn't spell it right. :)
05:06.12twystedlol
05:06.33herloKuyaedz: I am so close, but still have the Mesa crap
05:06.34Kuyaedzand that's shocking because truckers are renouned for their spelling ability!
05:06.38twystedlol
05:07.01Kuyaedzherlo: how can I kill a yum update if ctrl-c just toggles the mirror?
05:07.14twystedctrl c like 80 times
05:07.15twysted=)
05:07.27herlohit ctrl-c a bunch of times
05:07.34herloor kill -9 pid
05:07.45linuxalienhahaha
05:07.52linuxalienYeah, we get some nice truckers and some real jerks.
05:08.23KuyaedzMetadata does not match checksum on every mirror so far..
05:08.53Kuyaedzherlo: I swear we got the drivers setup the other day for you..
05:09.03herloyeah, I thought so too...
05:09.49Kuyaedz..and your card is on the supported list?
05:10.04herloKuyaedz: yeah, its supported by Radeon 9700
05:11.54herlooh, so who's the pot trying to call the kettle black, mr winxp
05:11.57herlo?
05:11.59herlohmmm
05:12.34herloKuyaedz:  Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
05:12.37KuyaedzHey, I'm getting a bleach enema when I get home.
05:12.50herloKuyaedz: a bleach enema?
05:12.53herloeww
05:13.08linuxalienIt's better than a glass shard enema
05:13.09Kuyaedzherlo: not sure.. I'd use the default if you're dpkg-reconfigure'ing
05:13.12herloKuyaedz: is that to clear out the winxp in ya
05:14.13Kuyaedzherlo: yes, to clean out the completely wide open 'singapore whore' germs I'm getting fom using unprotected IE
05:14.38herloKuyaedz: now that was uncalled for
05:14.44Kuyaedzlol
05:15.03twystedfinally
05:15.18herlobrb
05:15.51KuyaedzI'm sure that was uncalled for but I'm not sure of a better way to portray the vileness of using unprotected XP
05:17.04linuxalienWon't that hurt your anus?
05:18.02Kuyaedzyes, using XP will hurt your anus
05:18.15linuxalienNo wonder it's sore!
05:18.31Kuyaedzok, more information than I was expecting
05:18.54twystedhaha
05:19.00twystedlinuxalien use more lube next time
05:19.01twysted=)
05:19.17*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
05:19.24herlodamned Mesa drivers wont go away
05:19.28KuyaedzHmm
05:19.53linuxalienhahaha
05:20.01Kuyaedzand you selected the fglrx during the driver selection of xserver-xorg?
05:20.13herloof course, what do you take me for, an idiot?>
05:20.15herlo:-D
05:20.38linuxalienI'm oone
05:20.39linuxalienone
05:20.40Kuyaedz1st rule of support: don't be afraid to re-check the simple stuff
05:20.43linuxalienoops, can't even spell it
05:20.48linuxalienYeah, good idea
05:21.02herloKuyaedz, duh, I think I've run through the scenario at least 5 times now
05:21.14herloI am still suck on getting the ATI drivers to work...
05:21.28herlowould removing the mesa stuff be a good idea?
05:21.46Kuyaedz..if I were home with an ATI box I could be more help.
05:22.12herloKuyaedz: where are you, I know you are helping out family, but I thought you were at home...
05:22.27Kuyaedzno we went to their house..
05:22.46KuyaedzI'm using puTTY & 'screen'ing my connection
05:22.51herloKuyaedz: suggestions on removing mesa...
05:22.58Kuyaedzyou think I have XP in my house? c'mon
05:23.00linuxalienburn it!
05:23.13herlolinuxalien: cake hole! shut! now!
05:23.49linuxalienlol
05:24.36herlomaybe he missed something...
05:25.08Kuyaedzif you manually check your xorg.conf what driver is it using?
05:25.18herlofor screen?
05:25.24Kuyaedzdevice
05:25.58herlo<PROTECTED>
05:26.12herloSection "Device"
05:26.13herlo<PROTECTED>
05:26.13herlo<PROTECTED>
05:26.13herlo<PROTECTED>
05:26.13herlo<PROTECTED>
05:26.24herlonothing seems out of sorts to me
05:26.24linuxalieni'm gonna get some sleep
05:26.28linuxalienGonna get up early tomorrow
05:26.39linuxaliennite all!
05:26.41*** part/#ubuntu-utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@gateway.publicvpn.net)
05:26.43herlolinuxalien: don't we all, just some of us wanna show students how to do it
05:26.47herlodamn it
05:26.58herlohow to do xgl, that is
05:26.58Kuyaedzwere you going to show some XGL love tomorrow?
05:27.05herloKuyaedz: trying to
05:28.01herlobut herlo is getting tired, and should read his book too...
05:28.10herlobtw, went to see Superman Returns.
05:28.14herloit was good!!
05:28.37Kuyaedzsweet. we're going tomorrow
05:28.47herloyou'll like it
05:29.06herlowhat about my monitor settings, could that affect it?
05:29.11atoponceherlo: good enough for an 8 year old?
05:29.26Kuyaedzatoponce: I thought you were older than that ;)
05:29.28herloatoponce: an 8 year old might really enjoy it
05:29.42herloatoponce: I actually am considering letting my 6yo see it
05:29.48atoponceKuyaedz: i'm still a kid iside
05:30.02Kuyaedzatoponce: a kid with his own personal smilies
05:30.06atoponces/iside/inside/
05:30.11herloSection "Monitor"
05:30.11herlo<PROTECTED>
05:30.11herlo<PROTECTED>
05:30.11herlo<PROTECTED>
05:30.11herlo<PROTECTED>
05:30.12atoponce:}
05:30.21atoponce!coke
05:30.33herloyou two can do your lovey dovey crap later, my problem is important!!
05:30.48Kuyaedzhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
05:30.50herlo!!coke
05:30.55Kuyaedzsome more troubleshooting ideas there..
05:31.19atoponce!order a monitor for herlo
05:31.22Dapper606Hey, you're welcome, don't forget to leave a #tip!
05:31.31atoponce:}
05:35.21herloatoponce: now thats service
05:36.20Kuyaedzlooks like its about time for me to go home (finally)
05:36.35Kuyaedzif you're still around when I get home I'll try some more.. you should probably get to bed though
05:37.00herloKuyaedz: I think I really need to reboot, see you on the flipside, drive safe
05:37.19Kuyaedzbbl
05:38.22atoponce!pepsi
05:38.31atoponce!coffee pot
05:38.33WaitressBoy, you must really need to wake up  :-)
05:38.43atoponcenice
05:38.51atoponce!coffee latte
05:38.53Dapper606You want a what?
05:38.54Dapper606Have some real coffee, you wimp!
05:39.09atoponce!8ball is the sky blue
05:39.22atoponceno matter what, that one never works
05:40.49atoponce!orderfor herlo a new monitor
05:40.51Dapper606Hey, you're welcome, don't forget to leave a #tip for me!
05:42.30atoponce!coffee help
05:52.29atoponce!coffee caffiene
05:52.46atoponce!coffee mug
05:52.47Dapper606You need a warmup?
05:53.01atoponce!coffee caffeine
05:53.02Dapper606What? I can't have a cup for myself?  But I need my CaFfEiNe!!!!!!
05:56.02atoponce8Ball
05:56.03Dapper606atoponce, Absolutely yes!
05:57.00*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
06:11.22atoponce!geek
06:11.22Dapper606You might be a geek if you see a good-looking girl and you DESPERATELY want her e-mail address so you can get to know her.
06:11.41atoponce!geek
06:11.42Dapper606You might be a geek if your computer chair has the permanent and stiff indentation of your butt in it.
06:11.45atoponce!geek
06:11.46Dapper606You might be a geek if your girlfriend kisses you on the neck and you think "uh oh, priority interupt!".
06:11.49atoponce!geek
06:11.51Dapper606You might be a geek if you can program in more languages than you can speak.
06:13.09*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net)
06:16.19*** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o atoponce] by ChanServ
06:16.24*** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Dapper606] by atoponce
06:16.28*** mode/#ubuntu-utah [-o atoponce] by atoponce
06:17.08atoponce!coffee herlo
06:17.20herloatoponce: I needed that!!
06:17.29atoponce:}
06:17.29herlobut its not gonna be enough
06:17.39atoponce!coke herlo
06:17.44atoponce!pepsi herlo
06:17.51herloyuck
06:18.01atoponcei need a dr pepper one
06:18.07herlouhuh
06:18.14herlofor sure
06:20.15herlofsck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:21.54atoponce!dp
06:22.01twysted!dp
06:22.11twysted!give twysted all the money
06:22.34atoponce!orderfor money for twysted
06:22.37Dapper606Anything else with that, sugar?
06:22.45atoponceeek
06:24.00atoponce!orderfor money twysted
06:24.02Dapper606Would you like anything else with that, atoponce?
06:24.15atoponcebetter
06:24.41atoponce!order atoponce a toyota corolla
06:24.43Dapper606Hey, you're welcome, don't forget to leave a #tip!
06:24.57atoponce!order a toyota corolla
06:24.59Dapper606If you need anything else, I will be with Espresso. Just holler!
12:14.25Dapper606Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites?
13:27.31*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=clints@adsl-70-129-120-41.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net)
14:16.23*** join/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv (n=cedwards@host-19.pl107798-3.fiber.net)
14:16.38HoneyShivmorning
14:18.49atoponcemorning
14:32.39atoponce!seen herlo
14:32.42Dapper606herlo (n=clints@adsl-70-129-120-41.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) was last seen quitting from #ubuntu-utah 47 minutes ago stating (Remote closed the connection).
15:03.23synicmorning :)
15:31.45HoneyShiv~lart dapper606
15:32.11HoneyShiv~insult dapper606
15:32.25Dapper606jbot_: Yes.
15:32.56HoneyShiv!insult jbot_
15:32.57Dapper606jbot_: You asisine sack of malfunctioning RPM lover!
15:57.43*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@adsl-70-129-120-41.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net)
15:58.58herloHoneyShiv: Kuyaedz: are you guys gonna go camping on Sat still?
16:01.33HoneyShivi think so - it'd be fun
16:22.37Kuyaedzmornin'
16:24.46HoneyShivI'm the go-get-water-for-the-boss-people-girl today
16:24.48HoneyShivyes!
16:27.46HoneyShivherlo: what time/where are you going?
16:43.19*** part/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv (n=cedwards@host-19.pl107798-3.fiber.net)
16:50.15*** join/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv (n=cedwards@host-19.pl107798-3.fiber.net)
17:07.28Kuyaedzquiet in here this morning
17:10.58atoponcequiet at work here too
17:11.37KuyaedzShe further likened their claims to a shoplifter being handed a catalog for a store after being stopped, and being told 'what you took is in there somewhere, figure it out.'
17:11.54Kuyaedz[Judge calls SCO on lack of Evidence]
17:12.29atoponcethey're basically litigating to litigate now
17:12.35atoponceall for the fun of it
17:12.49atoponcewe knew it would get to this point
17:13.25atoponce!orderfor SCO man-eating sharks
17:13.27Dapper606Hey, you're welcome, don't forget to leave a tip for me!
17:13.45atoponcei gotta get rid of that tip garbage
17:15.28atoponce!orderfor SCO kryptonite
17:15.34atoponcethat's better
17:21.43KuyaedzMcBride: We're either right or we're not. If we're wrong, we deserve people throwing rocks at us.
17:21.58Kuyaedzanyone for a stoning-fest?
17:22.41atoponcei say we show up with truckloads in front of the sco office
17:22.44atoponce:}
17:22.46atoponcebrb
17:55.30atoponcecongrats to the linux community and ibm
17:59.12atoponce!uptime
17:59.13Dapper606Dapper606 has been up for: 0 week(s) 2 day(s) 19 hour(s) 16 minute(s) 16 second(s).
18:02.51Kuyaedzkeep on truckin' Dapper606
18:04.32atoponceif it weren't for utah power and light, he would have a longer uptime
18:11.43KuyaedzI wish there were an alternative to utah power.  I hate 'em
18:11.43HoneyShiv~bind kuyaedz
18:11.45jbotACTION wraps kuyaedz up with 100 rolls of duct tape
18:11.54HoneyShiv~lart Kuyaedz
18:12.58atoponce!orderfor HoneyShiv rattlesnakes
18:13.30HoneyShivhey hey hey!
18:13.41HoneyShiv~funkybomb atoponce
18:13.42jbotACTION blows away atoponce in a psychedelic flash
18:14.52atoponce!order 300 megaton bomb
18:15.18atoponceBOOM!!!
18:16.37atoponcei'm on one today, and i haven't had my daily dr pepper...
18:16.47KuyaedzI can see that
18:23.51atoponcesorry
18:24.00atoponce!dp
18:26.33KuyaedzI wonder why UOSP gives errors in IE
18:26.54KuyaedzIt loads in the background but an error window pulls up saying "I can't open this.  I suck"
18:28.00atoponcesounds like some javascript fun
18:28.30KuyaedzWell those are my words.. if you click 'OK' it gives the normal 'can't find this page' error
18:29.25atoponcegot the same error, it begins loading, then sais it can't be displayed
18:29.28atoponceinteresting
18:29.49KuyaedzI'm blogging about how IE shows you a whole new internet
18:43.32*** join/#ubuntu-utah DougE (n=taylor@71-213-60-167.slkc.qwest.net)
18:47.39Kuyaedzhey DougE
18:48.27DougEhey
18:49.23HoneyShivhey
18:49.37Kuyaedz~lart DougE for not being around more often
18:50.41DougEhey, I told you why
18:53.10DougEbesides, what would i do....
18:59.26herlohave a nice weekend
19:18.06atoponcei need something to do
19:19.18Kuyaedzhit the forums for a while.
19:19.32atoponcegood idea. haven't been there for a long tim
19:19.41atoponcebtw- what is the project for this upcoming week?
19:19.59KuyaedzI realized I haven't been to the forums for a while either..
19:20.35atoponces/project/team goal/
19:23.27Kuyaedznext week, being the first week, would be wiki contribution & cleanup
19:24.44*** part/#ubuntu-utah DougE (n=taylor@71-213-60-167.slkc.qwest.net)
19:29.55*** join/#ubuntu-utah DougE (n=taylor@71-213-60-167.slkc.qwest.net)
19:34.13KuyaedzI bet you get that in 3hrs
19:34.37atoponcei've been distracted looking for a cartoon drake avatar
19:36.10*** join/#ubuntu-utah sontek (n=sontek@216.20.238.152)
19:36.38Kuyaedzwhy're you looking for that? :)
19:36.50atoponcei've updated my avatar every release
19:37.11DougEhow consistant :)
19:37.14atoponcefinding the others was a snap. finding a drake is a little more difficult
19:37.36atoponcetyping drake in google image search is not work friendly i just found out! :}
19:37.50Kuyaedzlol
19:38.24atoponcefound one
19:38.29atoponcehttp://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/files/5/3/5/8/9/dapper_drake_original.png
19:38.49atoponceneeds to be modified a bit, and it will be cool
19:39.33KuyaedzI don't get the shoes
19:39.40DougEyeah
19:39.43DougEbut its cool
19:39.55atoponceit makes him "dapper"
19:40.04atoponceafter all, a drake is just a male duck
20:03.07Kuyaedzsontek: welcome
20:03.21Kuyaedzatoponce: so you're editing that graphic?
20:03.25atoponceyeah
20:03.27atoponcealmost done
20:04.49KuyaedzI think I may keep using the gaim-encryption RSA keys for IM encryption.
20:05.16sontekThanks :]
20:05.28Kuyaedzsontek: anything we can help you with?
20:05.49sontekNope, I just found out about this small little community :)
20:05.55sontekI've only lived in Utah for 6 months
20:06.18KuyaedzGreat.  Whereabouts do you live?
20:06.56sontek5000 S/900 E
20:07.36Kuyaedzcool.  All of us are pretty spread out.  From Springville to Ogden
20:08.03atoponcesaved and uploaded
20:08.42Kuyaedzatoponce: link me
20:08.48sontekNice, I noticed the meetings are held right near my house
20:08.48atoponceworking on it
20:08.53sontekdo most of you make it to them?
20:09.04atoponcehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=18570
20:09.16Kuyaedzsontek: attendence is up & down but this one should have decent attendence
20:09.18atoponceavatar on left
20:09.55Kuyaedznice
20:11.15Kuyaedzsontek: so how'd you find us?
20:12.26KuyaedzI wonder where throck disappeared to
20:12.55sontekI somehow found out that there was an active #utah channel on here and they had a link to your guys topic
20:15.02sontek:D
20:15.36sontekso what do you guys usually do at the meetings?
20:16.10sontekI used to be part of a user group in Michigan and we weren't very organized, just set up our laptops at a dennys and talked about our current projects and stuff :P
20:16.13Kuyaedzthis month atoponce will present on encryption & use of GPG.  Always have some food :)
20:16.36HoneyShivi like sontek's idea
20:16.38Kuyaedzsontek: can see a basic outline at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Meetings
20:25.58KuyaedzThey tend to be more laid back than it might appear on the agenda :)
20:26.24sontek:)
20:26.45sontekIs there anything fun to do for 4th of July in Utah?
20:28.49Kuyaedzthe past few years I just go down to Stadium of Fire and watch the show from a nearby park
20:37.14Kuyaedzalthough the resulting traffic sucks
20:39.29*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=clints@001-833-358.area1.spcsdns.net)
20:39.38herlohey all
20:39.50Kuyaedzairport?
20:39.58herloKuyaedz: via bluetooth
20:40.05Kuyaedznice
20:40.09sontekyeah, it'd be a little bit of a drive for me too
20:40.12herloYeah, really nice
20:40.35herloI am trying to figure out which gate they're going to move my flight to
20:41.05herlothe earlier flight has been delayed until after I leave
20:41.11Kuyaedzherlo: last time I flew we we're not only at the wrong gate but the wrong wing.  Had to run across the entire SLC airport in 10min
20:42.26herloKuyaedz: that's not bad, try that in Chicago or Atlanta....
20:42.28herlogood luck
20:44.03herloSo when are you guys going to the movie?
20:44.11Kuyaedz8:00 show
20:44.23herloI am hoping my flight isn't delayed too so I can get home and see my son.  Their in Parowan last I checked.
20:44.37herlo8pm, man that'll be packed
20:44.59Kuyaedzdoubt there is a way to avoid the crowd for this one outside of waiting another week
20:45.19herlowhen I went to see it, only about 40 seats were taken
20:45.40sontekwhat movie is that?
20:45.54Kuyaedzsuperman
20:47.01herlosontek: it was really quite good, wasn't sure it would be
20:47.52sontekyeah, I was going to go see it but katie wanted to see inconvenient truth instead
20:48.00sontekI'll probably end up going tonight
20:48.13sontekeveryone in the office snuck out early so I was thinking about doing the same :P
20:51.17herlosontek: or because its the 4th of July weekend, they snuck
20:52.47sontekhaha yeah, Well I think superman is just as good of a reason as 4th of July!
20:55.41herlosontek: no arguments here.
20:57.04herloKuyaedz: I upgraded my kernel yesterday on fc5, no real issues...It's been great
20:57.24herloKuyaedz: I am working on getting the ipw3945 driver working again....
20:57.38herlothat thing kinda doesn't work quite right...
20:57.45Kuyaedzherlo: not a compatible package for the later kernel?
20:59.50herloKuyaedz: there is
20:59.58herloKuyaedz: but its not downloading correctly
21:00.07herloso I am manually installing it now...
21:00.08Kuyaedzweird
21:00.11herloyeah
21:02.06herlono running yum install ipw3945...should work
21:03.38herloKuyaedz: sad part is, they have free nocat here
21:04.37Kuyaedzsweeet
21:05.03herlogetting an ip now
21:05.56herlowell, maybe
21:08.46Kuyaedzpeople are droppin' like flies
21:09.08HoneyShivlol
21:10.24herloKuyaedz:  and I still can't get an ip via wireless
21:10.49HoneyShivKuyaedz: did you find anything on that computer last night?
21:11.19KuyaedzHoneyShiv: find what? viruses & crap?
21:11.30HoneyShivyeah
21:11.49KuyaedzHoneyShiv: a load of tracking cookies & like 14 other issues with SpyBot
21:11.54Kuyaedz..I didn't do any virus scanning
21:12.00HoneyShivoh wow
21:12.02HoneyShivok
21:12.10HoneyShivI'm sure they need to clean it up
21:12.36Kuyaedz#1 thing I'd suggest is install FF
21:12.49herloKuyaedz: or Ubuntu
21:12.53HoneyShivyeah- can you uninstall IE?
21:12.57Kuyaedznope
21:13.00HoneyShivoh
21:13.12herloHoneyShiv: but you can hide it really well
21:13.19Kuyaedzherlo: He's a big WoW & uhm, that other-one-you-bought gamer
21:13.33Kuyaedzguild wars
21:14.47HoneyShivwhat are you guys talking about?
21:14.52herloKuyaedz: Guild Wars
21:14.59KuyaedzHoneyShiv same thing you're talking about..
21:15.03HoneyShivoh
21:15.11herloand we're also talking in code
21:15.11Kuyaedzit'd be hard to switch Orion to Ubuntu since he uses the computer just to game
21:15.17Kuyaedzsecret code
21:15.28HoneyShivI see...gamer code.. gotcha
21:15.30Kuyaedzherlo: does iwlist scan list anything? or nm-applet?
21:15.33herloKuyaedz: a guy in my class said he plays WoW on Linux
21:15.44HoneyShivreally?
21:15.58Kuyaedzherlo: I've heard of it done before more than once.. mainly via Cedega I think
21:16.02herloKuyaedz: iwlist scan will list any available wireless connections for the device you specify
21:16.22herloKuyaedz: yeah, that's what he said.  I was gonna try it out
21:16.41KuyaedzI started to try & then realized I have zero PC games in the house to test with
21:17.06HoneyShivare you sure? what about all those cd's of games?...
21:17.25herloHoneyShiv: I think he was referring to network games
21:17.33Kuyaedzwhat games?
21:17.43HoneyShivherlo: I'm just going to stop talking... ;)
21:18.24herloHoneyShiv: why?
21:19.09HoneyShivi'm just embarrassing myself...but it's cool
21:20.32herloHoneyShiv: no you're not, you are learning our secret code
21:21.11HoneyShivwell if that's what it takes... count me in!
21:21.33herlosweet, but it'll take some time to learn
21:22.17HoneyShivwhen he said WoW I thought it was something else... and then I got confused but I realized it was a game...
21:22.48KuyaedzWoW - World of Warcraft
21:22.52herloWorld of Warcraft even
21:23.36HoneyShivyeah yeah I got it ;)
21:24.55*** join/#ubuntu-utah herl1 (n=clints@kci-host95.cust.wifi.sprintpcs.com)
21:25.24KuyaedzHoneyShiv: your buddy Kenneth replied to my blog
21:25.27herl1geez, connectivity issues up the wazoo
21:25.44HoneyShivga ross!
21:25.44herl1Kuyaedz: Kenneth Burgener?
21:25.53Kuyaedzyeah
21:25.54HoneyShivlol i'm kidding
21:26.29herl1Kuyaedz: how do you remove a ghost account
21:26.47*** join/#ubuntu-utah maquis (n=maquis@joanna.zmonkey.org)
21:26.50HoneyShivhehehe
21:27.06maquisneed some debian/ubuntu-ish help...
21:27.22maquisherl1: that's not my normal online name... just for irssi
21:28.03maquisso, i know that there's a program i need, but i'm not sure how to figure out what i need to apt-get install in order to get the program
21:28.43herl1maquis: try sudo apt-cache search programname
21:28.50maquistried that
21:28.52maquisno luck
21:29.06Kuyaedzmaquis: what are you looking for? what app?
21:29.08maquisthe program i'm looking for is create_compressed_fs
21:29.36herl1maquis: is there a repo that has it?  have you found it elsewhere?
21:29.57maquisherl1: i'm trying to make a knoppix cd, and the doc says to run it after leaving the chroot
21:31.25herl1maquis: not much of a knoppix nerd, you should actually ask lars-ut-away
21:31.34herl1when he's not away
21:31.46herl1he does that sort of thing regularly
21:31.53herl1Kuyaedz: do you do that sort of thing?
21:31.53maquisherl1: cool
21:31.55maquisi'll ask him
21:32.11KuyaedzI've only used the packaged Knoppix.iso
21:32.50herl1maquis: he may only use stock stuff, not completely sure, but it can't hurt
21:33.40maquisherl1: cool
21:34.12maquisi suppose that if i were to boot into knoppix, i'd be able to do it that way, but it seems like it'd be nice to be able to do it without having to reboot the box to go into knoppix for it
21:35.14herl1maquis: yeah, I agree...what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
21:35.49herl1Kuyaedz: how to remove a ghosted user on irc?
21:35.58herl1btw, my flight is getting ready to board
21:36.07maquisherl1: you can /msg nickserv ghost <foo>
21:36.11maquisif that's you
21:36.22maquisoh... have to include your password at the end of that too
21:37.00herlothere we go
21:37.08herloyou guys are so nice
21:37.23herloI need to get better at irc
21:39.28KuyaedzI'm still learning too.
21:39.38maquisherl1: as far as why i'm doing it, i'm trying to make a knoppix cd that actually includes the things i like
21:40.26Kuyaedzmaquis: have you tried slax?  super easy to make custom LiveCDs with pre-built modules.
21:41.03herlomaquis: okay, I would also recommend dsl
21:41.06maquisKuyaedz: haven't looked much at it... but i just finished setting up knoppix the way i like
21:41.13herlousb based distro
21:41.21maquisherlo: i don't like all of what dsl has... just like my problem with knoppix standard...
21:41.26herloeven easier to customize once you get the hang of it
21:41.43herlomaquis: okay, we all have our druthers
21:43.31maquisherlo: :)
21:44.11*** join/#ubuntu-utah Dapper606 (n=atoponce@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
21:47.15*** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo1 (n=upirc@h4607d076.area7.spcsdns.net)
21:48.48herlo1oh, I'm back
21:48.54herlo1changed to my phone
21:49.32herlo1I love my treo
21:51.30*** join/#ubuntu-utah Dapper606 (n=atoponce@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
21:59.09*** join/#ubuntu-utah Dapper606 (n=atoponce@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
22:22.08atoponceDapper606 is undergoing surgery
22:22.23atoponcecurrently, he is in ICU, and will be out mmentarily
22:22.40atoponces/mmentarily/momentarily/
22:23.09atoponceyour prayers are encouraged
22:23.12atoponce:)
22:23.22atoponceor
22:23.36atoponce:,(
22:30.26*** join/#ubuntu-utah Dapper606 (n=atoponce@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
22:30.28atoponceDapper606: welcome back
22:30.45atoponceDapper606: how was the surgery?
22:31.14Dapper606atoponce: My thanks.
22:31.16Dapper606atoponce: What am I, a phone book?
22:31.38atoponceDapper606: so, but that would be real cool!
22:31.48Dapper606atoponce: I prefer to stay firmly grounded in reality.
22:32.51atoponce!w 84405
22:32.52Dapper606Ogden, Utah; Updated: 15:55 (June 30, 2006); Conditions: Mostly Cloudy; Temperature: 88°F (31°C); High/Low: 89/65°F (31/18°C); Humidity: 22%; Dew Point: 45°F (7°C); UV: 5/16; Wind: North at 7 MPH (11 KPH)
22:34.48atoponcei'm not loading the bad language script. i just don't like it, although i like the ethic behind it
22:35.32atoponce8 down, 42 more to go
22:37.21KuyaedzI don't think we have a HUGE problem with language anyway
22:38.25*** part/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv (n=cedwards@host-19.pl107798-3.fiber.net)
22:51.00Kuyaedz8 down, 42 to go?
22:51.56atoponcemy goal for 50 posts
22:52.05Kuyaedzahh

Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with blootbot logs, split per channel, etc.