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01:11.25 | Zelut | ~rlart |
01:41.38 | Honeyshiv | ~lart Zelut |
01:41.55 | Zelut | dang |
01:42.39 | Honeyshiv | :) |
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02:20.04 | linuxalien | Work rocks but they won't let us on instant messenger at my new position |
02:20.38 | Zelut | that's no good |
02:21.22 | linuxalien | Yeah, so I'm pretty sure no irc |
02:21.31 | Zelut | just don't tell 'em :) |
02:23.19 | linuxalien | hahaha |
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03:24.02 | stuporglue | Good Evening. |
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03:28.15 | stuporglue | How's it going Zelut? |
03:28.46 | Zelut | good. trying to backup 60G of media to DVD tonite.. that should take a while |
03:28.55 | stuporglue | hehe |
03:29.20 | stuporglue | Are there any automated solutions for Ubuntu -- ie that will split the data on DVD sized boundaries? |
03:29.38 | Zelut | I was just looking into that. I think k3b or gnomebaker will do it actually |
03:29.56 | stuporglue | cool |
03:30.08 | stuporglue | I'm looking into doing a GTK app with Ruby tonight |
03:30.35 | stuporglue | well, looking into it. Doing it will happen over the next x weeks |
03:31.04 | stuporglue | You a developer at all? |
03:31.56 | Zelut | I would like to be but I'm probably the furthest from |
03:32.09 | Zelut | closest I do is package things to .deb |
03:32.38 | stuporglue | :-) I'm trying to get into it. The last GUI I made was in CS 142, "Intro to Java Programming". |
03:34.10 | Zelut | I don't know if anyone in here is an active developer |
03:34.51 | stuporglue | Maquis does a lot of backend stuff. She's a good programmer. |
03:35.29 | stuporglue | I don't know that she does any projects for fun though, except her website (php) |
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05:17.12 | linuxalien | nite |
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05:27.06 | bretticus | evening |
05:27.47 | Zelut | evening |
05:33.24 | bretticus | hey Zelut, what's up? Just thought I'd stop by and see if there were any good discussions going on |
05:33.36 | bretticus | of course, I'm not contribting ;-) |
05:34.33 | bretticus | I'm chatting on my laptop with my funky wireless card that I finally got working with ndiswraper |
05:34.37 | bretticus | wheeeww |
05:35.06 | bretticus | okay, well, that I finally got WPA working I mean |
05:36.13 | bretticus | anyway,,,I digress |
05:40.51 | Zelut | seems like a pretty quiet evening tonite. |
05:41.08 | Zelut | I'm doing some reading on skype vs other SIP options.. pretty boring :) |
05:42.41 | Zelut | glad you got wireless working. nothing like not being able to get online |
05:47.28 | bretticus | I'm listeing to podcasts, kinda boring too actually. |
05:47.58 | Zelut | :) |
05:48.08 | bretticus | yeah it was a pain becauseic on this thing I only have a wireless n |
05:48.31 | bretticus | whoaah typing gets worse on a laptop for me |
05:49.11 | bretticus | my wife still is not convinced windows can be replaced so I dual booted this with xp |
05:49.30 | bretticus | downloaded all the wireless packages in xp |
05:49.44 | Zelut | well what does she need windows for and we'll get all the alternatives :) |
05:50.01 | bretticus | she is not a techofile by any means |
05:50.20 | bretticus | and when she uses it she just says, "I hate this" because it feels different |
05:50.21 | bretticus | ;-) |
05:50.30 | bretticus | no reason |
05:51.18 | Zelut | sounds like we're in for an uphill battle |
05:52.03 | bretticus | anyways, thank heavens for ndiswrapper, gnome-network-manager and wpa-supplicant |
05:52.16 | bretticus | hehehe |
05:52.24 | bretticus | yeah, I don't mind dual booting |
05:53.02 | bretticus | power dvd software runs smoother than move-player, mplayer, vlc, etc in ubuntu still |
05:53.25 | bretticus | other than that I boot Ubuntu |
05:54.25 | Zelut | sounds like you might need the libdvdcss setup |
05:54.41 | bretticus | love to try it |
05:55.02 | bretticus | i just used automatix to grab the codecs |
05:55.05 | bretticus | ;-) |
05:56.25 | Zelut | run: "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/./install-css.sh" |
05:56.33 | bretticus | loks like I have it instaled from synaptics |
05:56.39 | bretticus | ok |
05:56.46 | Zelut | or the libdvdcss2 package.. |
05:58.09 | bretticus | which player do you recommend? |
05:59.06 | Zelut | I like xine (xine-ui, libxine-main1, libxine-extracodecs) |
06:05.30 | bretticus | cool thanks! |
06:05.34 | bretticus | works much better |
06:05.41 | bretticus | no reason to boot windows now ;-) |
06:05.49 | Zelut | glad to help.. :) |
06:07.44 | bretticus | one of the issues I was having (mind my laptop is a little ancient)... |
06:08.49 | bretticus | was a bit of a lag on play to pause and vice-versa... |
06:08.49 | bretticus | sometimes some pixelation on faster scenes... |
06:08.49 | bretticus | which that update and xine, it's way better |
06:09.06 | bretticus | in fact the pause to play is better than windows with power dvd |
06:09.15 | Zelut | perfect. I've always had good luck using xine. others might argue that mplayer is better but I prefer xine. |
06:09.38 | Zelut | anything else you run into, just lay it on me and we'll get you fixed up :) |
06:09.47 | bretticus | awesome this is great |
06:09.56 | Zelut | might want to check out the tutorials I have at http://christer.homeip.net . sure you'll find a few more goodies there too. |
06:10.19 | bretticus | ah good ole dyndns ;-) |
06:10.51 | Zelut | registered that long before I got my static IP and never transfered the content elsewhere. |
06:12.11 | bretticus | works great for vpn tunneling to my house from work ;-) |
06:12.40 | Zelut | yeah |
06:12.52 | bretticus | i thought about putting a site there once but my upload is abmismal |
06:13.26 | bretticus | great a synapticstouchpad article |
06:13.55 | bretticus | dang! |
06:13.55 | bretticus | mine's like 256 k! |
06:13.55 | bretticus | ;-) |
06:14.36 | bretticus | of course I "borrowed" bandwidth for my website, I up to 100 MB ;-) |
06:14.57 | bretticus | never tested it though |
06:14.58 | bretticus | ;-) |
06:15.09 | bretticus | in fact downloads seem a bit slow in fact |
06:15.20 | Zelut | you could setup a blog or something on 256 up.. that's enough for text. |
06:15.28 | bretticus | they are coming thorugh a nescaler and I think it throttles the downloads somewhat |
06:15.42 | bretticus | yup |
06:15.45 | bretticus | ;-) |
06:15.59 | Zelut | ~rlart |
06:16.00 | bretticus | I use a monowall firewall... |
06:16.08 | Zelut | hehe |
06:16.18 | Zelut | I love shaking things up with an rlart |
06:16.34 | bretticus | has a great feature for bandwidth shaping |
06:16.58 | bretticus | so I guess I coudl give ole port 80 incoming low priority...what is rlart? |
06:17.25 | bretticus | mind, I used irc like 10 years ago |
06:17.36 | bretticus | started using it again just in the last few months |
06:18.50 | Zelut | type "~lart <user>" or "~rlart" |
06:18.58 | Zelut | just a fun little way to smack someone around & wake up the channel |
06:19.00 | Zelut | ~lart bretticus |
06:20.37 | bretticus | ah runs a bot okay ;-) |
06:20.49 | bretticus | ~rlart |
06:21.07 | bretticus | nice |
06:21.11 | Zelut | yeah, jbot is our resident bot with all kinds of completely useless features :) |
06:21.18 | bretticus | ~lart Zelut |
06:21.24 | bretticus | hehehe |
06:21.50 | Zelut | ~help |
06:22.03 | Zelut | ~freshmeat |
06:22.04 | jbot | i heard freshmeat is at http://www.freshmeat.net |
06:22.21 | Zelut | ~lobotomy bretticus |
06:22.23 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on bretticus |
06:22.23 | bretticus | well, that's useful |
06:22.30 | bretticus | ouuchh |
06:22.37 | Zelut | if you do ~help it'll list out all the (useless) commands :) |
06:22.45 | bretticus | ~help |
06:23.19 | bretticus | ~wtf ???? |
06:23.26 | bretticus | ah ;-) |
06:23.32 | bretticus | interesting |
06:23.36 | bretticus | :) |
06:24.52 | Zelut | and we used to have another bot that would join into our conversations but he seems to be awol |
06:25.08 | Zelut | atoponce: are you going to bring utahbot back from the dead? |
06:25.22 | atoponce | yeah. eventually |
06:26.16 | Zelut | is it a hosting problem or just a maintenance problem? |
06:26.28 | atoponce | maintenance, and motivation |
06:27.23 | Zelut | was it really a lot of work? |
06:27.44 | atoponce | yes and no. i want him to be more functional than fun |
06:28.05 | bretticus | notngwrong with fun though :) |
06:28.16 | bretticus | nothing wrong either :) |
06:29.28 | Zelut | well I think I'm going to get to bed. |
06:29.55 | atoponce | nite |
06:29.56 | Zelut | if you find the time, have utahbot stop by again.. maybe we need to just sit down & figure out the best plugins |
06:30.05 | atoponce | yeah |
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06:38.38 | bretticus | whoops, had to go playing with my xorg.conf file ;-) |
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06:41.17 | atoponce | !w 84405 |
06:41.20 | UtahBot | Ogden, Utah; Updated: 22:55 (December 11, 2006); Conditions: Partly Cloudy; Temperature: 27°F (-3°C); Windchill: 17°F (-8°C); High/Low: 40/28°F (4/-2°C); Humidity: 79%; Dew Point: 21°F (-6°C); UV: 0/16; Wind: SSE at 10 MPH (17 KPH) |
06:41.38 | atoponce | !fc 84405 |
06:41.40 | UtahBot | Ogden, Utah 5-Day Forecast (High/Low); Tuesday: Chance of Snow, 40/28°F (4/-2°C); Wednesday: Partly Cloudy, 41/27°F (5/-2°C); Thursday: Mostly Cloudy, 41/31°F (5/0°C); Friday: Mostly Cloudy, 42/29°F (5/-1°C); Saturday: Chance of Snow, 36/25°F (2/-3°C) |
06:43.11 | bretticus | !w 84770 |
06:43.14 | UtahBot | Saint George, Utah; Updated: 23:35 (December 11, 2006); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 39°F (4°C); High/Low: 56/32°F (13/0°C); Humidity: 61%; Dew Point: 27°F (-3°C); UV: 0/16; Wind: WNW |
06:43.23 | bretticus | !w 84790 |
06:43.25 | UtahBot | Saint George, Utah; Updated: 23:35 (December 11, 2006); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 39°F (4°C); High/Low: 56/32°F (13/0°C); Humidity: 61%; Dew Point: 27°F (-3°C); UV: 0/16; Wind: WNW |
06:43.37 | bretticus | nice |
06:44.05 | atoponce | yeah. he needs some work though. i guess i can work on him here and there |
06:44.31 | atoponce | what i really need is a help script for people to know what commands are available from him, and how to use them... |
06:44.50 | bretticus | It's been awhile, do you use a psuedo language for irc bots? Is he a executable that just logs into irc?? |
06:45.07 | bretticus | oh and by the way, xine rocks! |
06:45.48 | atoponce | he's just a daemon that needs to be executed, then i plug him up with tcl scripts |
06:46.46 | bretticus | so it's edit source and make for any new features, etc? |
06:46.53 | atoponce | yeah |
06:47.00 | atoponce | www.egghelp.org |
06:47.09 | bretticus | kewl |
06:47.48 | bretticus | t's always comforting to know I'm in company with bigger (and better) nerds than myself |
06:48.03 | bretticus | sorry geeks is the right term |
06:48.04 | bretticus | ;-) |
06:48.23 | atoponce | :) |
07:00.58 | atoponce | !google weather ogden,ut |
07:01.02 | UtahBot | Weather for Ogden, UT: 30°F, Scattered Clouds, Wind: SE at 9 mph, Humidity: 79% |
07:01.05 | atoponce | :) |
07:09.10 | bretticus | nite folks, thanks for your help! |
07:09.20 | atoponce | night |
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07:09.28 | atoponce | !help |
07:16.37 | atoponce | !lastspoke atoponce |
07:16.39 | UtahBot | atoponce hasn't uttered a word since I joined #ubuntu-utah 7 minutes ago. |
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16:12.13 | maquis | stuporglue: thanks :) |
16:12.19 | stuporglue | sure |
16:12.34 | maquis | and no, i don't have time for any "for fun" projects these days :) |
16:12.47 | maquis | right now it's an issue of "must survive christmas" |
16:13.05 | stuporglue | Every project *should* be fun. Otherwise, you're not in a perfect dream job. :-D |
16:13.14 | maquis | they certainly are fun |
16:13.16 | stuporglue | You're going to hate me |
16:13.26 | maquis | and i do spend quite a bit of time outside of work on them... |
16:13.28 | stuporglue | I'm making a GTK program with glade. |
16:13.43 | stuporglue | I think that means that whever uses it will need libglade and libglade-ruby |
16:13.54 | maquis | as long as gnome doesn't *need* to be running in order for it to work correctly, i'll survive |
16:14.08 | stuporglue | I *could* do it with straight up GTK calls from within ruby...but that's too much work |
16:14.26 | maquis | (chinput requires gnome to be turned on in order for it to run because it won't work if it doesn't have the panel and all that stuff... |
16:14.40 | maquis | scim had weirdness too |
16:14.41 | stuporglue | Gnome itself doesn't, but I don't know if it makes the gnome libraries be loaded |
16:15.01 | stuporglue | I think SCIM is the 'supported' input method for Ubuntu |
16:15.09 | maquis | yeah... |
16:15.14 | maquis | but it requires gnome to be running |
16:15.34 | stuporglue | oh |
16:15.37 | stuporglue | That's too bad |
16:15.42 | maquis | yeah |
16:15.44 | stuporglue | Have you ever played with glade? |
16:15.46 | maquis | fcitx works for now, though |
16:15.57 | maquis | i tried out glade once or twice... didn't get too far, though |
16:16.20 | stuporglue | It's pretty neat. You drag-and-drop the GUI components, then run a script and it generates code templates with places to just fill in what happens when a GUI action happens. |
16:17.24 | maquis | yeah... i got that far, and then i had trouble figuring out how to actually use it beyond that |
16:17.58 | stuporglue | I found what appears to be a decent ruby/glade tutorial, so I think I'll figure it out |
16:19.17 | maquis | cool |
16:22.33 | maquis | stuporglue: how's school going? you're in IT these days, right? |
16:22.34 | stuporglue | Yeah |
16:22.34 | stuporglue | If I get into the program (find out Jan 5-ish), I'll graduate April '08 |
16:22.41 | stuporglue | I'm liking it a lot |
16:22.41 | maquis | cool |
16:22.41 | maquis | that's important |
16:23.32 | stuporglue | :-) |
16:23.49 | maquis | "no space left on device. try deleting some semaphores with ipcs and ipcrm" <-- i'm particularly glad they arrive with this one |
16:24.02 | stuporglue | lol |
16:24.22 | maquis | when i hit the problem, there really weren't any sites that answered that |
16:24.35 | stuporglue | I bet |
16:24.48 | maquis | it's a slightly obscure problem :) |
16:47.15 | [phoenyx] | stuporglue: so you've converted to ruby, eh? |
16:47.54 | stuporglue | Well, I'm trying to be. :-) I started using it this summer with Watir for some automated website testing |
16:48.22 | stuporglue | It's enjoyable to work in, so I'm trying to see if I can use it for GUI programs and whatever else I need to do. |
16:49.05 | [phoenyx] | I was looking at that server assignment you did |
16:49.09 | stuporglue | I haven't made it to a urug meeting yet, but I intend to at some point |
16:49.09 | [phoenyx] | pretty cool |
16:49.24 | [phoenyx] | yeah, I've never been to a urug meeting |
16:49.35 | stuporglue | Thanks. I still think there should have been a way to just call 'super' in the default case, but I couldn't get it to work |
16:49.48 | [phoenyx] | I don't know if the salt lake branch exists anymore |
16:50.18 | stuporglue | I know there are meetings here at BYU fairly regularly |
16:52.16 | stuporglue | Well I'll be. I just got an email saying there'sa BYU-RUG meeting tonight |
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18:23.13 | atoponce | i need to format my external hard drive, but it appears that gparted is not installed by default? |
18:31.17 | maquis | atoponce: you need to repartition it? |
18:32.46 | maquis | atoponce: i've used fdisk for partitioning... |
18:34.40 | maquis | it's not quite as graphical or pretty as gparted, i'm guessing, but i haven't had problems with it |
18:36.01 | maquis | between that and e2resizefs (i think that's what it was), i managed to shrink a ext3 partition by a gigabyte to make room for a new partition without breaking anything once |
18:36.08 | Zelut | yeah, I don't think gparted is installed by default.. really simple to use though. |
18:38.20 | maquis | i was so startled i didn't break anything permanently when i did that |
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20:05.53 | Zelut | man I feel cruddy today |
20:49.24 | herlo | atoponce/maquis: the only real limitation to fdisk is when you exceed 2TB worth of partitions. fdisk doesn't handled the outer bound very well |
20:49.46 | herlo | gparted has no problems, but I prefer to use fdisk from a simplicity standpoint |
21:01.14 | maquis | herlo: hmm... i don't think i'm likely to run into that limitation on my home machine anytime too soon |
21:08.52 | atoponce | what's a good ogg encoder for gnome? something where i can change the bitrate of the ogg? |
21:09.11 | Zelut | soundconverter is what I use |
21:09.35 | Zelut | converts between formats but also allows for changing the bitrates |
21:10.02 | atoponce | i just need converting from cd to ogg |
21:10.55 | atoponce | Zelut: did you notice anyone new in the channel? |
21:11.06 | Zelut | ~lart UtahBot |
21:11.08 | Zelut | yay |
21:11.12 | Zelut | hadn't noticed :) |
21:11.21 | Zelut | that makes my day, despite being sick |
21:11.25 | atoponce | sorry |
21:11.29 | atoponce | !w 84121 |
21:11.34 | UtahBot | Salt Lake City, Utah; Updated: 14:11 (December 12, 2006); Conditions: Light Rain; Temperature: 42.1°F (5.6°C); High/Low: 46/28°F (7/-2°C); Humidity: 64%; Dew Point: 31°F (-1°C); UV: 1/16; Wind: WNW |
21:13.20 | atoponce | hmmm. how do you look at the cdrom with soundconverter? |
21:13.52 | atoponce | bag it. amarok it is |
21:14.15 | Zelut | ohh, you need ripping |
21:14.36 | atoponce | yeah |
21:15.36 | Zelut | I usually use the default sound player to rip.. not sure I've used amarok |
21:16.59 | [phoenyx] | so... I've been thinking of joining a more local (salt lake) linuxy/FOSSy type club. somebody wanna give me the spiel on ubuntu-utah? |
21:19.17 | maquis | !geek |
21:19.36 | maquis | hey! |
21:19.57 | maquis | atoponce: does utahbot not have the factoids that dapper606 had? |
21:22.07 | atoponce | i disabled a few of them |
21:22.17 | maquis | :( |
21:22.22 | maquis | :'( |
21:22.54 | maquis | yay!!! |
21:22.55 | maquis | :) |
21:23.27 | atoponce | !geek |
21:23.28 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you regard the "User Friendly" virus as a good thing. |
21:23.40 | maquis | lol |
21:23.46 | maquis | !geek |
21:23.46 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you have more e-mail addresses than you do pairs of shoes. |
21:24.20 | maquis | ooh... that's a hard one for a girl.... |
21:24.21 | atoponce | :) |
21:30.45 | maquis | :) |
21:30.46 | maquis | !geek |
21:30.47 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you understand and find www.ircnews.com funny. |
21:34.16 | atoponce | i've been writing a help for UtahBot. invoke with !help |
21:34.34 | atoponce | will send you a pm |
21:36.08 | atoponce | !help |
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22:16.30 | atoponce | !g 30/8 |
22:16.32 | UtahBot | 30 / 8 = 3.75 |
22:17.16 | Zelut | UtahBot: how are you old buddy? |
22:17.42 | herlo | UtahBot: What happened to Dapper606? |
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22:38.33 | herlo | ~rlart |
22:39.05 | herlo | jbot: how come UtahBot doesn't talk to us? |
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