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01:11.25Zelut~rlart
01:41.38Honeyshiv~lart Zelut
01:41.55Zelutdang
01:42.39Honeyshiv:)
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02:20.04linuxalienWork rocks but they won't let us on instant messenger at my new position
02:20.38Zelutthat's no good
02:21.22linuxalienYeah, so I'm pretty sure no irc
02:21.31Zelutjust don't tell 'em :)
02:23.19linuxalienhahaha
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03:24.02stuporglueGood Evening.
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03:28.15stuporglueHow's it going Zelut?
03:28.46Zelutgood. trying to backup 60G of media to DVD tonite.. that should take a while
03:28.55stuporgluehehe
03:29.20stuporglueAre there any automated solutions for Ubuntu -- ie that will split the data on DVD sized boundaries?
03:29.38ZelutI was just looking into that.  I think k3b or gnomebaker will do it actually
03:29.56stuporgluecool
03:30.08stuporglueI'm looking into doing a GTK app with Ruby tonight
03:30.35stuporgluewell, looking into it. Doing it will happen over the next x weeks
03:31.04stuporglueYou a developer at all?
03:31.56ZelutI would like to be but I'm probably the furthest from
03:32.09Zelutclosest I do is package things to .deb
03:32.38stuporglue:-) I'm trying to get into it. The last GUI I made was in CS 142, "Intro to Java Programming".
03:34.10ZelutI don't know if anyone in here is an active developer
03:34.51stuporglueMaquis does a lot of backend stuff. She's a good programmer.
03:35.29stuporglueI don't know that she does any projects for fun though, except her website (php)
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05:17.12linuxaliennite
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05:27.06bretticusevening
05:27.47Zelutevening
05:33.24bretticushey Zelut, what's up? Just thought I'd stop by and see if there were any good discussions going on
05:33.36bretticusof course, I'm not contribting ;-)
05:34.33bretticusI'm chatting on my laptop with my funky wireless card that I finally got working with ndiswraper
05:34.37bretticuswheeeww
05:35.06bretticusokay, well, that I finally got WPA working I mean
05:36.13bretticusanyway,,,I digress
05:40.51Zelutseems like a pretty quiet evening tonite.
05:41.08ZelutI'm doing some reading on skype vs other SIP options.. pretty boring :)
05:42.41Zelutglad you got wireless working.  nothing like not being able to get online
05:47.28bretticusI'm listeing to podcasts, kinda boring too actually.
05:47.58Zelut:)
05:48.08bretticusyeah it was a pain becauseic on this thing I only have a wireless n
05:48.31bretticuswhoaah typing gets worse on a laptop for me
05:49.11bretticusmy wife still is not convinced windows can be replaced so I dual booted this with xp
05:49.30bretticusdownloaded all the wireless packages in xp
05:49.44Zelutwell what does she need windows for and we'll get all the alternatives :)
05:50.01bretticusshe is not a techofile by any means
05:50.20bretticusand when she uses it she just says, "I hate this" because it feels different
05:50.21bretticus;-)
05:50.30bretticusno reason
05:51.18Zelutsounds like we're in for an uphill battle
05:52.03bretticusanyways, thank heavens for ndiswrapper, gnome-network-manager and wpa-supplicant
05:52.16bretticushehehe
05:52.24bretticusyeah, I don't mind dual booting
05:53.02bretticuspower dvd software runs smoother than move-player, mplayer, vlc, etc in ubuntu still
05:53.25bretticusother than that I boot Ubuntu
05:54.25Zelutsounds like you might need the libdvdcss setup
05:54.41bretticuslove to try it
05:55.02bretticusi just used automatix to grab the codecs
05:55.05bretticus;-)
05:56.25Zelutrun: "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/./install-css.sh"
05:56.33bretticusloks like I have it instaled from synaptics
05:56.39bretticusok
05:56.46Zelutor the libdvdcss2 package..
05:58.09bretticuswhich player do you recommend?
05:59.06ZelutI like xine (xine-ui, libxine-main1, libxine-extracodecs)
06:05.30bretticuscool thanks!
06:05.34bretticusworks much better
06:05.41bretticusno reason to boot windows now ;-)
06:05.49Zelutglad to help.. :)
06:07.44bretticusone of the issues I was having (mind my laptop is a little ancient)...
06:08.49bretticuswas a bit of a lag on play to pause and vice-versa...
06:08.49bretticussometimes some pixelation on faster scenes...
06:08.49bretticuswhich that update and xine, it's way better
06:09.06bretticusin fact the pause to play is better than windows with power dvd
06:09.15Zelutperfect.  I've always had good luck using xine.  others might argue that mplayer is better but I prefer xine.
06:09.38Zelutanything else you run into, just lay it on me and we'll get you fixed up :)
06:09.47bretticusawesome this is great
06:09.56Zelutmight want to check out the tutorials I have at http://christer.homeip.net .  sure you'll find a few more goodies there too.
06:10.19bretticusah good ole dyndns ;-)
06:10.51Zelutregistered that long before I got my static IP and never transfered the content elsewhere.
06:12.11bretticusworks great for vpn tunneling to my house from work ;-)
06:12.40Zelutyeah
06:12.52bretticusi thought about putting a site there once but my upload is abmismal
06:13.26bretticusgreat a synapticstouchpad article
06:13.55bretticusdang!
06:13.55bretticusmine's like 256 k!
06:13.55bretticus;-)
06:14.36bretticusof course I "borrowed" bandwidth for my website, I up to 100 MB ;-)
06:14.57bretticusnever tested it though
06:14.58bretticus;-)
06:15.09bretticusin fact downloads seem a bit slow in fact
06:15.20Zelutyou could setup a blog or something on 256 up.. that's enough for text.
06:15.28bretticusthey are coming thorugh a nescaler and I think it throttles the downloads somewhat
06:15.42bretticusyup
06:15.45bretticus;-)
06:15.59Zelut~rlart
06:16.00bretticusI use a monowall firewall...
06:16.08Zeluthehe
06:16.18ZelutI love shaking things up with an rlart
06:16.34bretticushas a great feature for bandwidth shaping
06:16.58bretticusso I guess I coudl give ole port 80 incoming low priority...what is rlart?
06:17.25bretticusmind, I used irc like 10 years ago
06:17.36bretticusstarted using it again just in the last few months
06:18.50Zeluttype "~lart <user>" or "~rlart"
06:18.58Zelutjust a fun little way to smack someone around & wake up the channel
06:19.00Zelut~lart bretticus
06:20.37bretticusah runs a bot okay ;-)
06:20.49bretticus~rlart
06:21.07bretticusnice
06:21.11Zelutyeah, jbot is our resident bot with all kinds of completely useless features :)
06:21.18bretticus~lart Zelut
06:21.24bretticushehehe
06:21.50Zelut~help
06:22.03Zelut~freshmeat
06:22.04jboti heard freshmeat is at http://www.freshmeat.net
06:22.21Zelut~lobotomy bretticus
06:22.23jbotACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on bretticus
06:22.23bretticuswell, that's useful
06:22.30bretticusouuchh
06:22.37Zelutif you do ~help it'll list out all the (useless) commands :)
06:22.45bretticus~help
06:23.19bretticus~wtf ????
06:23.26bretticusah ;-)
06:23.32bretticusinteresting
06:23.36bretticus:)
06:24.52Zelutand we used to have another bot that would join into our conversations but he seems to be awol
06:25.08Zelutatoponce: are you going to bring utahbot back from the dead?
06:25.22atoponceyeah. eventually
06:26.16Zelutis it a hosting problem or just a maintenance problem?
06:26.28atoponcemaintenance, and motivation
06:27.23Zelutwas it really a lot of work?
06:27.44atoponceyes and no. i want him to be more functional than fun
06:28.05bretticusnotngwrong with fun though :)
06:28.16bretticusnothing wrong either :)
06:29.28Zelutwell I think I'm going to get to bed.
06:29.55atoponcenite
06:29.56Zelutif you find the time, have utahbot stop by again.. maybe we need to just sit down & figure out the best plugins
06:30.05atoponceyeah
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06:38.38bretticuswhoops, had to go playing with my xorg.conf file ;-)
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06:41.17atoponce!w 84405
06:41.20UtahBotOgden, Utah; Updated: 22:55 (December 11, 2006); Conditions: Partly Cloudy; Temperature: 27°F (-3°C); Windchill: 17°F (-8°C); High/Low: 40/28°F (4/-2°C); Humidity: 79%; Dew Point: 21°F (-6°C); UV: 0/16; Wind: SSE at 10 MPH (17 KPH)
06:41.38atoponce!fc 84405
06:41.40UtahBotOgden, Utah 5-Day Forecast (High/Low); Tuesday: Chance of Snow, 40/28°F (4/-2°C); Wednesday: Partly Cloudy, 41/27°F (5/-2°C); Thursday: Mostly Cloudy, 41/31°F (5/0°C); Friday: Mostly Cloudy, 42/29°F (5/-1°C); Saturday: Chance of Snow, 36/25°F (2/-3°C)
06:43.11bretticus!w 84770
06:43.14UtahBotSaint George, Utah; Updated: 23:35 (December 11, 2006); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 39°F (4°C); High/Low: 56/32°F (13/0°C); Humidity: 61%; Dew Point: 27°F (-3°C); UV: 0/16; Wind: WNW
06:43.23bretticus!w 84790
06:43.25UtahBotSaint George, Utah; Updated: 23:35 (December 11, 2006); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 39°F (4°C); High/Low: 56/32°F (13/0°C); Humidity: 61%; Dew Point: 27°F (-3°C); UV: 0/16; Wind: WNW
06:43.37bretticusnice
06:44.05atoponceyeah. he needs some work though.  i guess i can work on him here and there
06:44.31atoponcewhat i really need is a help script for people to know what commands are available from him, and how to use them...
06:44.50bretticusIt's been awhile, do you use a psuedo language for irc bots? Is he a executable that just logs into irc??
06:45.07bretticusoh and by the way, xine rocks!
06:45.48atoponcehe's just a daemon that needs to be executed, then i plug him up with tcl scripts
06:46.46bretticusso it's edit source and make for any new features, etc?
06:46.53atoponceyeah
06:47.00atoponcewww.egghelp.org
06:47.09bretticuskewl
06:47.48bretticust's always comforting to know I'm in company with bigger (and better) nerds than myself
06:48.03bretticussorry geeks is the right term
06:48.04bretticus;-)
06:48.23atoponce:)
07:00.58atoponce!google weather ogden,ut
07:01.02UtahBotWeather for Ogden, UT: 30°F, Scattered Clouds, Wind: SE at 9 mph, Humidity: 79%
07:01.05atoponce:)
07:09.10bretticusnite folks, thanks for your help!
07:09.20atoponcenight
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07:09.28atoponce!help
07:16.37atoponce!lastspoke atoponce
07:16.39UtahBotatoponce hasn't uttered a word since I joined #ubuntu-utah 7 minutes ago.
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16:12.13maquisstuporglue: thanks :)
16:12.19stuporgluesure
16:12.34maquisand no, i don't have time for any "for fun" projects these days :)
16:12.47maquisright now it's an issue of "must survive christmas"
16:13.05stuporglueEvery project *should* be fun. Otherwise, you're not in a perfect dream job. :-D
16:13.14maquisthey certainly are fun
16:13.16stuporglueYou're going to hate me
16:13.26maquisand i do spend quite a bit of time outside of work on them...
16:13.28stuporglueI'm making a GTK program with glade.
16:13.43stuporglueI think that means that whever uses it will need libglade and libglade-ruby
16:13.54maquisas long as gnome doesn't *need* to be running in order for it to work correctly, i'll survive
16:14.08stuporglueI *could* do it with straight up GTK calls from within ruby...but that's too much work
16:14.26maquis(chinput requires gnome to be turned on in order for it to run because it won't work if it doesn't have the panel and all that stuff...
16:14.40maquisscim had weirdness too
16:14.41stuporglueGnome itself doesn't, but I don't know if it makes the gnome libraries be loaded
16:15.01stuporglueI think SCIM is the 'supported' input method for Ubuntu
16:15.09maquisyeah...
16:15.14maquisbut it requires gnome to be running
16:15.34stuporglueoh
16:15.37stuporglueThat's too bad
16:15.42maquisyeah
16:15.44stuporglueHave you ever played with glade?
16:15.46maquisfcitx works for now, though
16:15.57maquisi tried out glade once or twice... didn't get too far, though
16:16.20stuporglueIt's pretty neat. You drag-and-drop the GUI components, then run a script and it generates code templates with places to just fill in what happens when a GUI action happens.
16:17.24maquisyeah... i got that far, and then i had trouble figuring out how to actually use it beyond that
16:17.58stuporglueI found what appears to be a decent ruby/glade tutorial, so I think I'll figure it out
16:19.17maquiscool
16:22.33maquisstuporglue: how's school going?  you're in IT these days, right?
16:22.34stuporglueYeah
16:22.34stuporglueIf I get into the program (find out Jan 5-ish), I'll graduate April '08
16:22.41stuporglueI'm liking it a lot
16:22.41maquiscool
16:22.41maquisthat's important
16:23.32stuporglue:-)
16:23.49maquis"no space left on device. try deleting some semaphores with ipcs and ipcrm"  <-- i'm particularly glad they arrive with this one
16:24.02stuporgluelol
16:24.22maquiswhen i hit the problem, there really weren't any sites that answered that
16:24.35stuporglueI bet
16:24.48maquisit's a slightly obscure problem :)
16:47.15[phoenyx]stuporglue: so you've converted to ruby, eh?
16:47.54stuporglueWell, I'm trying to be. :-) I started using it this summer with Watir for some automated website testing
16:48.22stuporglueIt's enjoyable to work in, so I'm trying to see if I can use it for GUI programs and whatever else I need to do.
16:49.05[phoenyx]I was looking at that server assignment you did
16:49.09stuporglueI haven't made it to a urug meeting yet, but I intend to at some point
16:49.09[phoenyx]pretty cool
16:49.24[phoenyx]yeah, I've never been to a urug meeting
16:49.35stuporglueThanks. I still think there should have been a way to just call 'super' in the default case, but I couldn't get it to work
16:49.48[phoenyx]I don't know if the salt lake branch exists anymore
16:50.18stuporglueI know there are meetings here at BYU fairly regularly
16:52.16stuporglueWell I'll be. I just got an email saying there'sa BYU-RUG meeting tonight
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18:23.13atoponcei need to format my external hard drive, but it appears that gparted is not installed by default?
18:31.17maquisatoponce: you need to repartition it?
18:32.46maquisatoponce: i've used fdisk for partitioning...
18:34.40maquisit's not quite as graphical or pretty as gparted, i'm guessing, but i haven't had problems with it
18:36.01maquisbetween that and e2resizefs (i think that's what it was), i managed to shrink a ext3 partition by a gigabyte to make room for a new partition without breaking anything once
18:36.08Zelutyeah, I don't think gparted is installed by default.. really simple to use though.
18:38.20maquisi was so startled i didn't break anything permanently when i did that
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20:05.53Zelutman I feel cruddy today
20:49.24herloatoponce/maquis: the only real limitation to fdisk is when you exceed 2TB worth of partitions.  fdisk doesn't handled the outer bound very well
20:49.46herlogparted has no problems, but I prefer to use fdisk from a simplicity standpoint
21:01.14maquisherlo: hmm... i don't think i'm likely to run into that limitation on my home machine anytime too soon
21:08.52atoponcewhat's a good ogg encoder for gnome? something where i can change the bitrate of the ogg?
21:09.11Zelutsoundconverter is what I use
21:09.35Zelutconverts between formats but also allows for changing the bitrates
21:10.02atoponcei just need converting from cd to ogg
21:10.55atoponceZelut: did you notice anyone new in the channel?
21:11.06Zelut~lart UtahBot
21:11.08Zelutyay
21:11.12Zeluthadn't noticed :)
21:11.21Zelutthat makes my day, despite being sick
21:11.25atoponcesorry
21:11.29atoponce!w 84121
21:11.34UtahBotSalt Lake City, Utah; Updated: 14:11 (December 12, 2006); Conditions: Light Rain; Temperature: 42.1°F (5.6°C); High/Low: 46/28°F (7/-2°C); Humidity: 64%; Dew Point: 31°F (-1°C); UV: 1/16; Wind: WNW
21:13.20atoponcehmmm. how do you look at the cdrom with soundconverter?
21:13.52atoponcebag it. amarok it is
21:14.15Zelutohh, you need ripping
21:14.36atoponceyeah
21:15.36ZelutI usually use the default sound player to rip.. not sure I've used amarok
21:16.59[phoenyx]so... I've been thinking of joining a more local (salt lake) linuxy/FOSSy type club.  somebody wanna give me the spiel on ubuntu-utah?
21:19.17maquis!geek
21:19.36maquishey!
21:19.57maquisatoponce: does utahbot not have the factoids that dapper606 had?
21:22.07atoponcei disabled a few of them
21:22.17maquis:(
21:22.22maquis:'(
21:22.54maquisyay!!!
21:22.55maquis:)
21:23.27atoponce!geek
21:23.28UtahBotYou might be a geek if you regard the "User Friendly" virus as a good thing.
21:23.40maquislol
21:23.46maquis!geek
21:23.46UtahBotYou might be a geek if you have more e-mail addresses than you do pairs of shoes.
21:24.20maquisooh... that's a hard one for a girl....
21:24.21atoponce:)
21:30.45maquis:)
21:30.46maquis!geek
21:30.47UtahBotYou might be a geek if you understand and find www.ircnews.com funny.
21:34.16atoponcei've been writing a help for UtahBot. invoke with !help
21:34.34atoponcewill send you a pm
21:36.08atoponce!help
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22:16.30atoponce!g 30/8
22:16.32UtahBot30 / 8 = 3.75
22:17.16ZelutUtahBot: how are you old buddy?
22:17.42herloUtahBot: What happened to Dapper606?
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22:38.33herlo~rlart
22:39.05herlojbot: how come UtahBot doesn't talk to us?
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