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00:47.14atoponcetest
00:47.25atoponcenice.
00:47.33atoponcerunning irssi proxy. pretty cool stuff
00:47.53atoponcenow i can connect with any irc client, point it to my ssh tunnel, and i'm set.
00:48.10atoponcethis includes gaim, xchat, irssi, mirc, chatzilla, you name it
00:48.14atoponceanything with a proxy
00:48.26atoponceand irssi is still running in my server, if i want to connect to it
00:52.50atoponcehmmm. can't get xchat to work, but local irssi does
00:58.49ZelutSir_Brizz: ping
01:01.45atoponceZelut: i'm using gaim with irssi proxy. pretty cool
01:02.04Zelutcool
01:02.06atoponceof course, you probably already saw that
01:02.50atoponceprobably put up a wiki page about it too
01:03.40Zelutwhat is the appeal of running $gui-client over irssi proxy?
01:05.22atoponcekeeping your online presence without disconnecting
01:05.49atoponceirssi maintains the presence, but you use your client like you normally would to connect, and no one knows the wiser
01:08.26Zelutisn't that what you had going with irssi + screen?
01:09.25atoponceyeah. but this takes it a step further
01:09.48atoponceif you don't like irssi, but want to keep your connection, *and* choose your favorite irc client, you can
01:10.11atoponce*plus* you can have multiple connections simultaneously to the proxy, all under the same nick
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01:18.57Zelutwhy do I seem to be having trouble with my DNS.. ugh
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04:53.28Kuyaedzcan I say the averge IQ of Digg is about that of a rock?
04:56.39linuxalienOnly if you give me a nickel
04:57.02KuyaedzI just removed the 'digg this' link on my blog.  i'm sick of the flame wars that start everytime I get digg'd
04:57.19linuxalienThat sucks
04:57.48Kuyaedzjust got front-paged again and all you can see in the comments is XP fanboys flaming away.. just drives me crazy
04:59.26linuxalienXP sucks ass
04:59.59Kuyaedzthat it does. i'm going to start requesting that people share the links to del.icio.us or reddit, where the intelligence is higher
05:14.07linuxalienI haven't read those yet
05:37.57Sir_BrizzZelut, pong
05:45.01KuyaedzSir_Brizz: don't remember what I needed now :)
05:45.09Sir_Brizzhehe np :)
05:45.17Sir_Brizzgot a full house tonight\
05:45.47Kuyaedzdid anyone get an email from me on the list tonite?  I don't think its working
05:46.32herloKuyaedz: I did not
05:46.55herloKuyaedz: why aren't you Zelut?
05:47.16Kuyaedzlogged in on another machine and don't think I'll be here long enough to ghost
05:47.39herloKuyaedz: ahh, btw, who cares if people flame each other on digg
05:47.50herloyou should still want the traffic ey?
05:48.03Kuyaedzhttp://my.statcounter.com/project/standard/stats.php?project_id=1751189&guest=1
05:48.34herlohow hard is it to set up statcounter?
05:48.48Kuyaedztake you two minutes & a few lines of javascript
05:49.02herloanything I should be aware of?
05:49.02Kuyaedzjust drop it in the footer above </body> and you're done.
05:49.18herloCan I do it for multiple sites on the same account?
05:49.36Kuyaedzit should be pretty straight forward.. I've got 10 sites being tracked on my account
05:49.44herlocool
05:49.51herloKuyaedz: so where you at right now?
05:50.06herloand is next week a good "hacker weekend"?
05:50.20Kuyaedzjust on another machine at home
05:51.50herloahh
05:53.13KuyaedzI need to pick up a SATA card tomorrow if either EBC or PC Club has one
05:55.22Sir_Brizzhehe
05:55.29Sir_Brizzmy status was changed from Approved to Approved
05:55.48herloKuyaedz: do you have a link to stat counter on your site?
05:57.19Zelutherlo: no
05:57.48ZelutSir_Brizz: that's what it was.. I was going through the launchpad list & wondered if I should renew yours.. which I ended up just doing.
05:58.25Sir_Brizz:D
05:58.26herloZelut: k
05:58.40Zelutherlo: I suppose I could, I just haven't..
05:58.52herlothinking about it, maybe on my other sites
05:58.52ZelutI did add my FSF Membership badge today though :)
05:59.01herloZelut: nice
05:59.23ZelutI think that is worth $10/mo if anything is.
05:59.45herloand spreading the word...;) I am trying you know
05:59.54Sir_Brizzyah I'm poor
06:01.03ZelutI figure the FSF is a pretty critical cog in the whole works and we wouldn't be here without 'em.
06:01.07herloSir_Brizz: it has nothing to do with my monetary status
06:01.16herloZelut: probably not
06:02.30herloZelut: that was easy!
06:02.39herloZelut: Otis has that button from Staples...
06:02.39Kuyaedzway easy
06:02.47herlo;) the easy button
06:03.13Kuyaedzmake sure you create a new project & code for each site though
06:03.31Sir_Brizzit does for me :p
06:04.22herloKuyaedz: right
06:04.40herloKuyaedz/Zelut: so for hacking night next weekend??
06:05.26herloZelut: http://www.herlo.org:48001/
06:05.28Kuyaedzherlo: next weekend is my moms birthday.. most likely be in Kaysville after the meet.
06:05.33herloahh
06:05.47herlok, maybe end of Jan then...cool
06:06.02Kuyaedznice.
06:06.47Kuyaedzhave you guys ever heard of/used apt-cacher?
06:08.04Sir_Brizzapt-cache ?
06:08.53herloSir_Brizz: yeah
06:09.00herloit's used for searching the apt sources
06:09.00Kuyaedzapt-cacher is a way to cache repositories within a LAN.
06:09.10Kuyaedzapt-cache search will search your cache, but this is a bit different
06:09.29KuyaedzI setup apt-cacher on a single machine & my other four machines download updates or new packages via that single machine
06:09.31Sir_Brizz\interesting
06:09.52Kuyaedz..instead of each machine downloading the same packages (wasted bandwidth) its all done once and cached.
06:10.08KuyaedzI'm going to writeup a tutorial for it for the blog tonite I think.
06:14.28herloKuyaedz is the blog king
06:14.32herlo:-D
06:14.50Kuyaedzthat reminds me, did you get my email about the utos blog?
06:16.36herloKuyaedz: I did, I personally don't have access to the mysql db yet...
06:16.47Kuyaedzok. I guess we'll just wait on those
06:16.47herloI'll be forwarding that on to the guys who do though...
06:16.52herlookay
06:16.58herlobut consider it requested
06:18.00Sir_Brizzdo you guys ever search for your name on Google?
06:18.23KuyaedzSir_Brizz: yeah.. I'm out there quite a bit.  You do find some interesting stuff when you do that
06:18.24herloSir_Brizz: on occasion
06:18.33Sir_BrizzI do it every few months
06:18.39herlofun stuff
06:18.46Sir_Brizzto make sure there isn't enough incriminating information on there to steal my identity
06:19.16herloSir_Brizz: this one always cracks me up.  and no, it's not me
06:19.17herlohttp://theatreorgans.com/walnuthill/clintsavage.htm
06:19.30Sir_Brizzrofl
06:19.34Sir_Brizztht's awesome
06:19.41Sir_Brizzmy name is too unique to come up with something like that
06:19.48Kuyaedzthat's you in thirty years
06:19.50Sir_BrizzBenjamin Cardon and BJ Cardon are pretty much all me
06:19.55Sir_BrizzBen Cardon I don't even show up
06:19.58herloKuyaedz: thanx
06:20.11Kuyaedz"Christer" actually picks up a lot of scandanavian sites, but the bulk are me.
06:20.25Sir_Brizzbut I do find that there is a Senator named Ben Cardon and a pro baseball player, and a real estate agent
06:20.26herloKuyaedz: I sure hope not, though it's funny because my dad is a huge Organ enthusiast.
06:20.35Sir_Brizzrofl
06:21.26Sir_Brizza number of hits on BJ Cardon are on the ubuntuteam mailing list
06:29.55herloZelut: can you announce the upcoming UTOS meeting next Wednesday?  It's gonna be after PLUG, I believe
06:30.05Kuyaedzherlo: ok
06:45.13Kuyaedzthis post is turning into a novel.. I might need some opinions before I release it on the wild.
07:07.38Kuyaedzanyone feel up to proofing this for me for clarity? http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/?p=264
07:13.40KuyaedzI'm off to bed.  Ping me if you have any suggestions on that post.
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16:35.09atoponce!uptime
16:35.11UtahBotUtahBot has been up for: 0 week(s) 6 day(s) 12 hour(s) 6 minute(s) 20 second(s).
16:51.05Zelutatoponce: what does UtahBot do these days if he doesn't talk?
16:58.36atoponcerun !help
17:03.22Zelut!help
17:05.45ZelutI wish he'd have conversations.  You say the devel cut that all off?
17:06.04atoponceyeah. ditched his server, and i can't find anything that works
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17:06.40mdkehiya, I'm looking for Christer Edwards, does he hang around here?
17:06.57mdkeah, Zelut, you are he
17:07.22mdkeZelut: here? got a moment for a quick chat?
17:07.36Zeluti suppose
17:08.56mdkeZelut: you don't *have* to
17:09.26mdkebut if you like, join #ubuntu-doc
17:09.26Zelutohh its fine.. still waking up is all :)
17:09.30mdkeah, ok
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17:43.39Zelutnow that Firefox 2 has the restore session option shouldn't it have a quit-to-restore feature?
17:44.35atoponceZelut: so what was that all about with mdke? joining the doc team?
17:45.30Zeluthe comes on a little strong.  yeah, he'd like me to write there.
17:46.05atoponcecool
17:46.18Zeluthe'd prefer I wrote on the docs & simply linked from my blog instead of reinventing the wheel
17:46.19Sir_Brizzwhat do you mean "quit to restore?
17:46.56ZelutSir_Brizz: if I close firefox now it'll verify I want to close the tabs and doesn't restore the past session.. or does it?
17:47.05Sir_Brizzyou can tell it to
17:47.39Sir_BrizzTools->Options->Main->Startup
17:47.53Sir_Brizzchange "When Firefox starts:" to "open my tabs from last time
17:48.02Sir_Brizzer "show my windows and tabs from last time"
17:48.33Sir_Brizzit's still sometimes annoying if you have mutliple windows open because it rarely remembers all the windows if you close them one at a time
17:48.41Sir_Brizzso I have an extension called "Restart Firefox"
17:49.18Zelutmaybe I should get that extension
17:53.41Zelutanyone have any idea why gaim links no longer open in Firefox?
17:53.49Zelutor how to fix it?
17:58.45Sir_Brizzupdate-alternatives?
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18:11.36atoponceZelut: so, how do you feel about the doc thing and your blog?
18:12.26ZelutI think he's got a good point of contributing to the central documentation.
18:12.55ZelutI think I can do just as much good if I do a daily addition to the docs and include a preview / link from my blog
18:13.00atoponceso, how does that affect you publishing your tuts?
18:15.46ZelutI think I'll start publishing directly to the docs and do a tutorial of the day pointing that direction.
18:17.55atoponcecool. i'll be looking forward to your posts
18:19.02ZelutI put together one last nite that I think is pretty cool.. let me send you a link for proofing.
18:19.26atoponceok
18:21.36Zelutsince its post-dated it wont link to it unless you're logged in so I pastebin'd the content. http://pastebin.ca/308057
18:21.59Zelutits about apt-cacher. nice if you have multiple ubuntu machines on a single network.
18:25.45Zeluti'm going to jump in the shower.  let me know if you have suggestions to clarify the steps.
18:26.50atoponcestill reading. pretty cool
18:27.00atoponceso, are those links at the bottom
18:27.01atoponce?
18:29.38Zelutyes. http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-set-up-a-repository-cache-with-apt-cacher, http://www.nick-andrew.net/projects/apt-cacher/, http://www.debianuniverse.com/readonline/chapter/19
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18:30.51ZelutI've got it setup on my network now and I just imagine the bandwidth it'll save me between four machines
18:57.21Zelutatoponce: does it make sense?
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19:21.11*** topic/#ubuntu-utah is | Ubuntu-Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | Next meeting: Jan 13, 2007 3pm | Main SLC Library Floor 3 | Topic: Ubuntu Utah Constitution presented by Aaron Toponce |
19:34.09atoponcegah
19:34.52atoponcefixed
19:34.57atoponcei upgraded to 2.0.6
19:35.07atoponcemust of reset my theme during the upgrade
19:38.13Zelutwondered why you were using the ugly default
19:38.40ZelutI just found instructions on connecting to Exchange using IMAP.  I might try Thunderbird if it'll work
19:39.05atoponcecool
19:39.17atoponcei love my new mail server. imap is the only way to go
19:39.30atoponcei don't know why gmail doesn't implement it
19:48.12ZelutI don't think its going to work
20:03.10ZelutI'm kind of surprised a big client like Thunderbird wouldn't have Exchange support.
20:03.29Sir_Brizzwhy?
20:03.38Sir_Brizzit's basically OSS
20:04.34Sir_Brizzpersonally, though, I think one of the main goals fo Thunderbird should be to completely replace Outlook as a PIM program
20:08.45ZelutI would like the feature because my office uses Exchange and the only options I have are use the web interface or, luckily, evolution supports it.
20:12.40ZelutI would be happy with setting a forwarding rule from my exchange account to an external but that doesn't seem to be offered either.
20:16.39Zelutdoes anyone know when Vista release is?
20:57.56Sir_Brizzalready past for businesses
20:58.09Sir_Brizzfor home users I think it's late February or early March
21:05.36Zelutjust keeps getting extended doesn't it
21:06.27Zelutinteresting read comparing Vista with OSX (not too "flamy") http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196800670&pgno=1&queryText=
21:47.11linuxaliennice
21:47.26Zelutsounds like its going to be annoying
21:49.26Zelut10 minutes until Feisty current nightly is done downloading.. its taking forever
22:03.10linuxalienWow, I read more of the article.  Vista is not that good
22:04.48Zelutlinuxalien: I decided that I won't even support it for family / friends.  If you have computer trouble and use Vista, its your own fault.
22:05.24linuxalienI just plan on using linux or Macs in my home.
22:05.39Zelutthat is all I use
22:05.51linuxalienRight on
22:05.55Zelutcurrently I'll offer help to un-infect XP machines but after Vista they're on their own.
22:06.32linuxalienI'll probably help neighbors with Vista but I won't like it. haha
22:08.23Zelutare you going to try & make it to the meet next weekend?
22:08.34linuxalienThe Ubuntu one?  Sure.
22:17.20linuxalienGotta run
22:17.25linuxalientime for shopping

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