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01:52.45Zelutmheath is back?  I thought he left again..
01:53.18Zelutdon't you love /ignore :)
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05:54.47Zelutquiet nite in here
06:07.48Zelutatoponce: ping
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07:05.38ReyOmarHola locos
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15:03.03Zelutmorning
15:15.23redbeard1morning
15:27.28redbeard1Zelut: mini ubuntu and gnome cheesecakes. that's what's on the agenda for today.
15:28.34Zelutnice
15:28.49atoponceZelut: pong
15:30.05Zelutatoponce: I thought you'd died man
15:30.11atoponce?
15:30.28Zelutjust haven't been around much the past few days it seems
15:30.40atoponceyeah
15:30.58atoponcewith the ceo here, and my computer dying, it's been a bit busy lately
15:31.35redbeard1atoponce: blame society. that's what i always do.
15:31.54atoponcei could blame it on the rain, yeah yeah.
15:32.22redbeard1blame it on the drain, it keeps cloggin', cloggin'
15:32.29redbeard1blame it on the faucet that drips all night
15:32.39Zelutatoponce: I was going to pick your brain about this proxy setup
15:33.07atoponcewhatever you do. don't put the blame on ubuntu.
15:33.18atoponceZelut: oh yeah?
15:34.37Zelutatoponce: a few things I hadn't thought about.. is this squid proxy open right now? could anyone connect on that port and use it?
15:35.16atoponcehmmm. not sure. haven't thought about about locking it down
15:36.46ZelutI'm just wondering if it needs locking down? if its actually open?
15:36.53Zelutjust thought about it last night
15:37.50atoponcenot sure
15:38.06atoponceif you find anything out, i would be interested in what you did to lock it down
15:38.47ZelutI looked at the (very long!) config file last night.  It looks like it can be tightened down via the hosts file or other similar methods.  I'll tinker.
15:43.17Zelutyawn
15:44.29Zelutatoponce: I'd be interested to hear your experience on my upcoming post today.. if you have the same issue.
15:44.58atoponceis it posted?
15:45.43Zelutwill be in just a second..
15:46.10Zelutthere it should be
15:47.36atoponceZelut: is a "matt thorley" on the ubuntu-utah mailing list?
15:48.46Zelutnot under that name
15:57.04atoponcecommented
16:00.37Zelutdo you have to kill it to? or ctrl-c?
16:01.02atoponcelike i said, close you browser. that usually finishes it for me
16:01.43atoponcebecause it is using the localhost:8080 binding, and the process will wait for everything to exit before it dies gracefully
16:02.17atoponceif not, just ctrl-c
16:02.19ZelutI tried that last nite and it didn't die.  I wonder if I kill the browser first..
16:02.40atoponcethat should work
16:02.49Zelut..and I'm trying to come up with an automation method for those people that won't be using irssi like we do.
16:03.08Zelutmaybe add the command to .bash_login or..?
16:03.23atoponceto create the ssh tunnel?
16:03.49Zelutright. to create the tunnel without needing an open console
16:04.18atoponceif ssh keys are created, then it could be automated, i guess
16:04.20atoponcei haven't tried
16:04.51Zelutits not a big issue for us, but I was thinking of variations for a tutorial.
16:10.51maquislol
16:11.14maquissomeone was complaining that there isn't a good tool for a certain task that works in an "approved" fashion
16:11.27maquissomeone else replied that they had a emacs plugin that did all that
16:11.48maquisand then commented "we should probably avoid a general discussion of whether that constitues 'useable'..."
16:17.44ZelutI would like to find a solution to that second question though. that's a bit more tricky
16:20.34Zelutoff to work..
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16:53.28ZelutI was thinking... wouldn't ssh encryption be a better solution than WEP or WPA?
16:53.56Zeluttunnel everything between the wireless device and router via ssh?
16:55.09tristanbobZelut: WPA encryption is offloaded to the wireless NIC, I think
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19:35.42Zelutdoes this look odd to anyone else? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/405991631_f33b73ae01.jpg
19:47.07[phoenyx]wow, I don't think I'd trust them to install linux
19:48.53[phoenyx]I just did a google search for "linux install"
19:49.07maquisyipes!
19:49.15[phoenyx]#1 sponsored link: geeksquad
19:49.15[phoenyx]#2 sponsored link: microsoft
19:49.26maquisuh
19:51.18[phoenyx]!geek
19:51.19UtahBotYou might be a geek if there are two magazines in front of you, the newest issue of PC Magazine and the other a porno. And you choose the PC mag over the porno.
19:51.42[phoenyx]!geeksquad
19:54.25Zelutyeck
20:00.07ZelutI thought that looked a little off
20:00.53[phoenyx]!geek
20:00.53UtahBotYou might be a geek if you know what a router is, and you know what a bit is, but you've never heard of a router bit.
20:11.08[phoenyx]!geek
20:11.09UtahBotYou might be a geek if you have more e-mail addresses than you do pairs of shoes.
20:11.19redbeard1uh oh
20:13.36Zelutwho has more than one pair of shoes? :)
20:14.12[phoenyx]church shoes, regular shoes
20:14.28redbeard1church shoes, regular shoes, sandals
20:15.26redbeard1oh, and kitchen shoes. 4 pairs.
20:15.31Zelutsandals don't count
20:15.42redbeard13 pairs then
20:40.54atoponceouch: http://www.swivel.com/graphs/show/8052276
20:41.28atoponcedoesn't look like his "war" is doing very well
21:55.23Zelutman.. connection trouble again.
21:55.40Zelut-=[Lag: 216 (??)]=-
21:55.59atoponceno lag here
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21:57.55atoponcemheath just doesn't 'get it', does he?
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22:02.29maquisatoponce: is he back now?
22:02.38atoponceapparently
22:02.49atoponcewhenever he has free time, i guess, he logs in
22:03.28atoponcei thought we were free of him for the next few years
22:03.30atoponceguess not
22:06.29[phoenyx]mheath never really bothered me that much, but I have to admit that I hang out here instead of #utah because... there's a higher signal-to-noise ratio in here :)
22:06.49atoponce:)
22:07.12Tianon#utah seems too general...
22:09.34Zelutthat is the primary reason I never lurk in there.
22:09.56atoponcebut there are some people in there who really know their stuff
22:10.00Zelut1) mheath 2) I don't understand half of what Findlay says 3) too much noise
22:10.05atoponceit's good to ask any type of question in there
22:10.28atoponceof course, if it's perl or php, you can just ask maquis here. :)
22:11.50atoponcethat's considered quite 'off topic' as outlined in the channel rules
22:13.30Zelutwhy doesn't he just get kick banned?
22:14.41atoponceyou know, if i were op, i'd make sure the channel topic was adhered to a bit better
22:14.47atoponce*but*, with that said
22:15.15atoponceeveryone in there seems either 1) not to care or 2) encourage the chatter
22:15.36atoponceand there should be leniency with the topic anyway
22:15.47maquisZelut: he doesn't get kickbanned because i'm too nice to kickban
22:15.49atoponcei mean, i'm off topic in this channel talking about him...
22:16.11atoponcebut, constant offenders would be reminded, like junk1 in #ubuntu-us
22:16.48[phoenyx]atoponce: you should kick yourself to set an example ;)
22:16.54atoponce:)
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22:17.19atoponce:)
22:17.25[phoenyx]lol
22:17.46atoponce/kick atoponce off topic. stay on task
22:20.37Zelutignore works for me I guess..
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22:30.42atoponcemy problem with ignore, is when there is discussion, it's hard to decipher what the conversation is
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