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| 00:59.06 | atoponce | oooh |
| 00:59.11 | atoponce | maquis gets nasty |
| 00:59.12 | atoponce | :) |
| 01:08.16 | Zelut | so I'm doing on online seminar right now that my company wants me to do and I am the only one in attendance |
| 01:08.53 | Zelut | I'm basically doing an Impress presentation to myself and getting paid for it. how 'bout that. |
| 01:18.19 | atoponce | that works |
| 01:18.57 | linuxalien | Awesome |
| 01:51.16 | Zelut | anyone mind giving me some good reviews on the presentation? :) |
| 01:51.17 | Zelut | http://www.zoomerang.com/recipient/survey-intro.zgi?p=WEB22665BKDW2D |
| 01:51.26 | Zelut | just make up some email address and give me a good score ;) |
| 01:53.17 | linuxalien | ok brb |
| 01:53.39 | atoponce | Zelut: done |
| 01:53.40 | Zelut | i don't know if they'll compare online attendance vs feedback. |
| 01:53.50 | Zelut | anyway, that was the easiest money I ever made. |
| 01:53.56 | Zelut | time to head home :) |
| 01:54.02 | atoponce | ttyl |
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| 04:04.16 | atoponce | !g aaron toponce |
| 04:04.17 | UtahBot | Aaron Toponce @ http://www.pthree.org/ | Aaron Toponce in Launchpad @ https://launchpad.net/~atoponce | Specifications involving Aaron Toponce @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~atoponce | Bugs assigned to Aaron Toponce @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/~atoponce | Support requests involving Aaron Toponc @ https://answers.launchpad.net/~atoponce |
| 04:04.29 | atoponce | nice |
| 04:04.55 | atoponce | 4 of the top 5 are ubuntu related. :) |
| 04:05.07 | atoponce | at least it works again... |
| 04:05.42 | atoponce | !g maquis |
| 04:05.42 | UtahBot | Maquis (World War II) - Wikipedia, the @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis_(World_War_II) | www.maquis.com @ http://www.maquis.com/ | Marquis @ http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FRmaquis.htm | Maquis: Arquitetura e Urbanismo. @ http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3836/ | Maquis - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia li @ http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis |
| 04:06.39 | Zelut | !christer edwards |
| 04:06.41 | Zelut | oops |
| 04:06.45 | Zelut | !g christer edwards |
| 04:06.47 | UtahBot | Utah Internet Marketing :: Social Media @ http://christeredwards.com/ | Ubuntu Tutorials : Breezy - Dapper - Edg @ http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/ | Christer Edwards | Ectio.us 2107 @ http://ectio.us/2107 | ChristerEdwards - Ubuntu Wiki @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristerEdwards | Utah SEO | Utah Search Engine Optimizati @ http://utahseoplanet.com/ |
| 04:07.49 | Zelut | interesting |
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| 04:12.19 | Zelut | test |
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| 04:33.43 | undertakingyou | Anyone on IRC tonight? |
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| 04:40.52 | Zelut | yessir |
| 04:41.12 | herlo | me too! |
| 04:41.40 | Zelut | I've decided that Google Docs is awesome |
| 04:42.27 | Zelut | herlo: just sent you an invite to see some of my topics for the presentation. |
| 04:43.14 | Zelut | ...if it worked. can't tell if the form went thru |
| 04:46.21 | herlo | k |
| 04:46.22 | herlo | looking |
| 04:48.24 | herlo | Zelut: where'd you send it? gmail? |
| 04:48.25 | Zelut | I did an invite thru google docs to your gmail address but my guess is it didn't go through. |
| 04:48.25 | herlo | nope |
| 04:50.39 | Zelut | that time it sent. |
| 04:52.07 | Zelut | i know it. i just started using it more lately. |
| 04:52.14 | herlo | looks like it will be some fun for sure... |
| 04:52.42 | herlo | how much have you done with VNC on ubuntu-tutorials? |
| 04:52.59 | Zelut | I haven't done much there but I did write a wiki page for it way-back-when. |
| 04:53.07 | Zelut | maybe its something I should revisit for the blog |
| 04:54.03 | herlo | well, I am planning on blogging a bit on it tonight because I've gotta teach it tomorrow... |
| 04:55.23 | Zelut | it looks like it has had some edits since I first wrote it but, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualNetworkConnection |
| 04:55.29 | herlo | Zelut: wanna help me set up a simple demo? |
| 04:56.14 | herlo | I don't think I can set up a firewall to route around my network in here. The only other way I can set it up is to use xen or vmware to communicate... |
| 04:56.44 | Zelut | well if you promise to be good I could leave a connection to one of my boxen open for you to connect to |
| 04:57.15 | herlo | I'd like to see your .vnc directory files too though... |
| 04:57.31 | herlo | Zelut: why would I promise anything else... |
| 04:58.13 | Zelut | I have a test machine with not much on it but the latest feisty updates. I can open that for you to use for your presentation.. |
| 04:58.14 | herlo | I am gonna reboot though..setting up xen for wed lecture... |
| 04:58.24 | herlo | that'd be nice... |
| 04:58.47 | herlo | want me to set it up completely with vncserver? |
| 04:58.58 | Zelut | what do you mean? |
| 04:59.38 | herlo | well, I could just have an ssh account on the systme and set it up from scrtch... |
| 04:59.39 | herlo | scratch |
| 05:00.16 | herlo | its up to you... |
| 05:00.39 | sontek_ | Soo.. next time my friends ask me to help them move one of you have to call me with an "emergency" =) |
| 05:00.50 | sontek_ | been carrying crap since 4pm |
| 05:01.09 | herlo | sontek_: I tried to get a hold of you earlier... |
| 05:01.30 | herlo | I could have had you meet me a the bar or something a little more urgent... |
| 05:02.22 | sontek_ | did ya need something earlier? |
| 05:02.29 | sontek_ | My hands are killing me :P |
| 05:03.12 | sontek_ | and for some reason my nic keeps resetting itself and grabbing a dhcp address instead of using the defined static one |
| 05:06.13 | Zelut | herlo: we could do that too if you like. I'll have to setup ssh on a random port because i'm using it on two other machines regularly already |
| 05:06.44 | Zelut | herlo: any suggestions on the basic presentation outline though? not enough? too easy? too 'ubuntu'? |
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| 05:13.48 | herlo | Zelut: I like it. Nothing wrong with showing your colors... |
| 05:15.37 | Zelut | i'm particularly stoked about the new feisty improvements |
| 05:15.51 | Zelut | wpa, wep & vpn supported natively in network manager now. |
| 05:16.00 | Zelut | compiz package by default. |
| 05:16.12 | Zelut | smart codec support |
| 05:16.44 | herlo | Zelut: that's in most distros btw |
| 05:17.12 | herlo | FC6 has had it for some time, and it now has some cool stuff with dbus plugins which I have yet to really play with... |
| 05:23.47 | Zelut | well hell now I've got nothing to present on ;) |
| 05:27.36 | herlo | haha |
| 05:28.06 | herlo | There's plenty of cool stuff you talk about regularly. I wish I could be there actually, but if I were, i guess I'd be presenting... |
| 05:28.10 | herlo | :) |
| 05:28.26 | herlo | Dude, you'll do awesome. I liked all the other presentations you've given... |
| 05:29.11 | Zelut | well we'll see how it goes. For some reason I'm a little intimidated for the plug. basically "the" utah lug |
| 05:29.57 | herlo | nah, they're cool and they will totally "get" what you are doing...I think they'll like it... |
| 05:30.23 | Zelut | what am I doing that they'll "get"? |
| 05:32.01 | herlo | this one: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/24/how-to-install-multimedia-codecs-ubuntu-6061-610/ |
| 05:32.12 | herlo | this one: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/14/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-ubuntu-510-6061-610/ |
| 05:32.22 | herlo | this one: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/05/steps-to-upgrading-your-ubuntu-machine-ubuntu-6061-610/ |
| 05:32.54 | Zelut | if it's a little too much shameless promotion I could use the official docs :) |
| 05:34.20 | herlo | and the new herd stuff too. I think whatever features you can share about it will be cool. Also, I think you've got to promote your blog a little. Many of those who come just need some simple direction. Add some apt/aptitude how-to. Make it generic for debian based distros where applicable. spend time on stuff people seem more interested in... You've got a good readership, announce it there too... |
| 05:37.12 | Zelut | ok |
| 05:37.46 | herlo | I think you'll do great |
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| 05:40.03 | sontek_ | :O |
| 05:49.15 | Zelut | I'm out for the nite too. |
| 05:50.20 | sontek_ | zelut is presenting at plug? |
| 05:50.53 | sontek_ | i'm gonna try to start making it |
| 05:51.02 | sontek_ | I'm done being slammed at work |
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| 14:31.39 | sontek_ | morning! |
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| 14:43.31 | maquis | *yawn* |
| 14:46.36 | redbeard1 | ~pillowfight maquis |
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| 15:25.03 | atoponce | http://www.dell.com/content/topics/survey.aspx/ss?ssid=OeAjvuto67E~&s=corp |
| 15:31.51 | tristanbob_ | http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey |
| 15:31.58 | tristanbob_ | do the survey! |
| 15:32.16 | redbeard1 | dude, tristanbob, i just did the survey from atoponce's link |
| 15:32.43 | tristanbob_ | I don't know if the URL is a problem or not |
| 15:32.51 | tristanbob_ | probably not |
| 15:32.55 | redbeard1 | yeah, i guess your url is better |
| 15:33.11 | tristanbob_ | I just wonder if they think the same guy took the survey 100 times |
| 15:33.16 | maquis | yay! |
| 15:33.25 | redbeard1 | maquis: what? |
| 15:33.25 | maquis | tristanbob_: ot |
| 15:33.30 | maquis | it's called a script |
| 15:33.36 | maquis | redbeard1: i took the dell survey |
| 15:33.48 | maquis | and i'm still naive enough to think it might affect something |
| 15:33.55 | redbeard1 | heh. yay! |
| 15:34.33 | maquis | and i got to sleep last night |
| 15:34.43 | redbeard1 | yay! |
| 15:35.49 | maquis | redbeard1: baby? or work? |
| 15:38.20 | redbeard1 | baby |
| 15:38.56 | redbeard1 | she decided not to be happy at anything, for a good couple of hours |
| 15:41.08 | maquis | sad |
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| 15:41.37 | redbeard1 | it was truly tragic |
| 15:42.28 | redbeard1 | maquis: the beastie cake is almost finished. just need a pitchfork. |
| 15:44.37 | maquis | redbeard1: pictures!!! |
| 15:44.55 | redbeard1 | maquis: sorry, i left my camera at home again |
| 15:47.49 | maquis | redbeard1: :( |
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| 15:49.23 | Zelut | morning |
| 15:52.41 | atoponce | Zelut: so, you need an api key for akismet, which is only handed out with wordpress.com accounts |
| 15:52.54 | Zelut | atoponce: want to use mine? |
| 15:53.08 | atoponce | does that fall within the license? |
| 15:53.14 | Zelut | I dunno |
| 15:53.23 | Zelut | :) |
| 15:53.54 | Zelut | I'm using it on a half-dozen of my own sites.. |
| 15:55.01 | atoponce | i'll just register for a wordpress.com account, even though i'll never use it... :) |
| 15:55.10 | atoponce | then again, do i really need it? |
| 15:55.21 | atoponce | spam karma 2 is doing great |
| 15:56.15 | Zelut | I never use wordpress.com either but I use the key. Akismet is killing a lot of spam |
| 15:56.37 | Zelut | Akismet has caught 2,639 spam for you since you first installed it. |
| 15:57.04 | atoponce | total spam caught: 18,877 |
| 15:57.11 | atoponce | total comment approved: 423 |
| 15:57.17 | atoponce | total comments moderated: 39 |
| 15:57.25 | Zelut | Total Spam Caught: 3762 |
| 15:57.40 | Zelut | I installed Akismet much later but it's catching up quickly. |
| 15:59.47 | atoponce | i think i'll just keep running spam karma 2 |
| 16:00.03 | atoponce | but, i need a captcha on my 'contact me' page |
| 16:00.23 | atoponce | i'm starting to get contact-me-spam from there, which i hadn't thought about... |
| 16:00.46 | Zelut | I might remove some of my contact info there & just use the form. |
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| 16:03.15 | Zelut | I wonder why my apt-proxy doesn't validate the gpg from out of my network but works fine in-network |
| 16:04.52 | atoponce | Zelut: with the math comment plugin, can you put that where you want, or does it get auto-inserted in all posts? |
| 16:05.03 | Zelut | you need to insert it where you want it |
| 16:05.05 | atoponce | i just want to put it in the contact-me page, and that's it |
| 16:06.13 | Zelut | ohh, yeah you could manually update that form I'm sure |
| 16:06.50 | Zelut | another 111 updates for Feisty this morning. sheesh |
| 16:22.51 | Kemotaha | That is the best part of alpha testing |
| 16:36.34 | atoponce | http://www.pthree.org/contact/ |
| 16:45.22 | Zelut | looks good |
| 16:45.37 | Zelut | Kemotaha: what do you think of the new splash screen? |
| 16:47.24 | Kemotaha | I haven't seen it yet. I tried to install herd 5 on Saturday but it didn't boot, I haven't had a chance to try it again. I am watching my sisters while my parents are on a cruise. |
| 16:47.50 | maquis | my manager rescheduled a doctors appointment to handle work stuff... that seems kinda funny to me |
| 16:48.56 | Zelut | maquis: from what you tell us about your job that seems completely normal. |
| 16:49.13 | Zelut | http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/13/dell-is-listening-help-make-a-change/ |
| 16:49.27 | maquis | Zelut: :) |
| 16:49.34 | Zelut | if you guys haven't seen that please go vote. share it. email it. shout the link from the rooftops. |
| 16:51.58 | Zelut | go vote to have Dell include Ubuntu as an option. |
| 16:52.10 | maquis | get rid of the m$ tax |
| 16:53.33 | Kemotaha | I just voted to add Vista to the linux lineup =) |
| 16:53.47 | maquis | huh? |
| 16:53.51 | Zelut | uhh |
| 16:54.15 | Kemotaha | It was a joke |
| 16:54.28 | Zelut | what a huge victory it'd be if Dell included Ubuntu as an option! |
| 16:54.32 | Kemotaha | oh well I guess It didn't have the right working |
| 16:54.44 | maquis | i heard from one of my teammates that they were planning on adding a linux option |
| 16:54.49 | Zelut | Kemotaha: Vista is a bad word around these parts ;) |
| 16:55.02 | maquis | ubuntu seems like the most logical choice |
| 16:55.13 | Zelut | maquis: go vote for it then :) |
| 16:55.40 | Kemotaha | I know but Vista is a Joke for me so that's how it shoule be used ;) |
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| 16:58.20 | maquis | Zelut: already did |
| 16:58.25 | Zelut | maquis: thank you |
| 16:58.43 | maquis | you think they'd have a problem if somebody scripted some bots to vote? |
| 16:59.13 | Zelut | wonder if they'd verify things by IP |
| 16:59.54 | Kemotaha | just spoof the IPs, it is just a submit script |
| 17:00.20 | atoponce | ~w00t |
| 17:00.29 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 17:00.29 | atoponce | ~w00t! |
| 17:00.31 | jbot | There it is! |
| 17:00.58 | atoponce | centon is issuing my rebate. and, apparently, they are not the ones to blame, but compusa! |
| 17:01.18 | Zelut | down with compusa! |
| 17:01.18 | Kemotaha | grat |
| 17:01.19 | Kemotaha | s |
| 17:01.23 | atoponce | they are the ones who screwed up. centon, and the rebate company did everything they were supposed to |
| 17:01.42 | atoponce | so, i'll be issuing a formal apology on my blog, and taking the previous post down |
| 17:01.53 | Zelut | sounds like it's time for a blog update.. and now compusa will be calling you to make things all better :) |
| 17:01.54 | atoponce | now that i feel like a jerk |
| 17:03.11 | Zelut | i don't think I'd feel like a jerk but I'd definitely update the site to explain things |
| 17:03.21 | atoponce | doing it now |
| 17:03.36 | Zelut | whether it was their fault or not they did have horrible customer service in never returning your calls |
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| 17:25.15 | Zelut | Tianon: howdy |
| 17:25.26 | Tianon | howdy |
| 17:33.54 | Zelut | if it is really going to be 70 outside today i'm really tempted to leave sick :) |
| 17:36.50 | atoponce | apology issued. :) |
| 17:37.41 | atoponce | now, back on with my life... |
| 17:45.07 | redbeard1 | every time i scroll past this window, i see "Tianon: howdy" flash by, and i always only process part of it, and i think, "wow, did TimToady decide to visit us?" and then i get excited until i realize it's not really him. |
| 17:45.35 | Zelut | redbeard1: you're weird |
| 17:45.43 | Zelut | :) |
| 17:45.47 | redbeard1 | ...and? |
| 17:45.47 | atoponce | /whois TimToady? |
| 17:46.00 | redbeard1 | TimToady == Larry Wall |
| 17:46.13 | atoponce | ahh. nice |
| 17:46.20 | Zelut | I'm a little excited to present at plug now tomorrow. hopefully something ubuntu specific will be well recieved. |
| 17:47.05 | redbeard1 | Zelut: you worry too much, you make yourself sad |
| 17:47.21 | redbeard1 | you can't change fate, so don't feel so bad |
| 17:47.34 | redbeard1 | enjoy it while you can, it's just like the weather |
| 17:47.40 | Zelut | redbeard1: I do worry I suppose but I think of it as clearly thinking through a situation to succed :) |
| 17:47.46 | redbeard1 | so quit complaining brother, no one lives forever! |
| 17:48.30 | Zelut | yeah. I am much more comfortable this morning than I was yesterday. |
| 17:48.38 | redbeard1 | Zelut: that's good |
| 17:50.36 | Zelut | so far two appointments have not gone thru today. grumble |
| 17:52.38 | sontek_ | \o/ |
| 17:52.40 | herlo | but me likes the new RHEL5... |
| 17:52.44 | Zelut | herlo: do you teach a good number of 'tards too? |
| 17:52.56 | herlo | relatively few actually |
| 17:53.17 | Zelut | I think I have relatively few intelligent people which is driving me nuts |
| 17:53.24 | herlo | this week, there are a couple guys who aren't as bright as the rest of the group, but they are okay... |
| 17:53.54 | herlo | for me, they're mostly aware of what linux is and what it can do... |
| 17:57.16 | [phoenyx] | python hates Tim Toady |
| 17:58.37 | Zelut | python has hated Zelut for quite some time now. |
| 17:58.55 | Zelut | I got in a few good right-hooks over this weekend though and figured a few things out :) |
| 18:00.54 | sontek_ | w00t, you'll be hacking the next web2.0 site in no time |
| 18:01.23 | Zelut | sontek_: yeah, as long as input == password we'll be set lol |
| 18:01.48 | herlo | Zelut: you are nuts! That will never get set! |
| 18:02.21 | Zelut | herlo: well a basic password while loop is all I figured out over the weekend so it'll have to do |
| 18:02.43 | Zelut | of course there isn't any hashing involved and it's pretty pointless but I'm making a little progress. |
| 18:03.03 | herlo | Zelut: == is a comparison operator = is assignment...that's all |
| 18:03.15 | herlo | so input == password will return true or false... |
| 18:03.32 | herlo | and input = password will assign whatever was stored in password into input... |
| 18:03.35 | herlo | :) |
| 18:34.22 | Kemotaha | Zelut, what are you presenting on then? |
| 18:36.34 | Zelut | Kemotaha: ubuntu basics (codecs, etc), where to find support (shameless plug for our team) and expected features in Feisty |
| 18:54.31 | maquis | elf needs sleep badly |
| 18:55.22 | redbeard1 | elf? |
| 18:55.49 | [phoenyx] | maquis: nice gauntlet reference |
| 18:58.22 | maquis | [phoenyx]: one of my teammates made that comment, and i thought he was making a nethack reference |
| 18:58.32 | maquis | turns out it's something nethack and gauntlet share :) |
| 18:58.38 | maquis | redbeard1: yes |
| 18:58.53 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 18:58.55 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you walk past a Con and people know who you are. |
| 18:59.04 | maquis | because i enjoy playing nethack as elf... |
| 19:12.27 | maquis | sweet... a couple people emailing out looking for linux cds... :) |
| 19:14.21 | Zelut | maquis: I hope you found a good home for the stack I sent you. |
| 19:14.35 | maquis | Zelut: still haven't quite made it through the whole stack |
| 19:14.39 | maquis | but a good portion of it |
| 19:14.56 | maquis | and it's nice to have at least one person who can email out and say "i've got some" whenever someone emails looking for them |
| 19:26.02 | Zelut | way to be on our front lines up there maquis |
| 19:36.52 | maquis | :) |
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| 20:35.41 | Zelut | stinking DST is screwing me up. |
| 20:37.22 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 20:37.23 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you can count the number of moderately good hacker/computer dude type films on one hand. |
| 20:41.08 | [phoenyx] | I like how movies always put security, encryption, networking, programming, etc. together into one "computer hacker" skill and if you have that, you have them all |
| 20:41.27 | Zelut | [phoenyx]: don't you though? :) |
| 20:44.42 | acrid | My opinion is that depth of knowledge decreases as breadth increases. In real life someone who can rewrite an entire operating system in 3 minutes to access some "top sekrit" documents is probably not going to be the same person that can rewire a biometric scanner with a foil gum wrapper. |
| 20:45.18 | Zelut | yeah, that's true but as far as the non-geek community is concerned if you know computers you know 'computers' |
| 20:45.51 | acrid | That's true. ;) |
| 20:48.42 | [phoenyx] | like when I tell people that I'm a web developer and they think "this guy can tell me why my printer isn't working, I'll ask him" |
| 20:50.38 | Zelut | chances are you probably could do that but I know what you're saying. |
| 20:54.29 | [phoenyx] | I also love how everything has a nice GUI interface, with lots of colors and 3D effects |
| 20:55.15 | Zelut | ohh yeah. cracks me up in swordfish when he's writing a 'worm' in those 3d boxes |
| 20:55.38 | Zelut | he's all excited and spinning in his chair with the cool music. more like hunkered over the keyboard in a drunken code stupor |
| 20:58.15 | acrid | don't forget the beeps. Everything beeps in the movies. |
| 20:59.18 | Zelut | the only movie that didn't screw it up was the matrix. actually show a bash prompt and use a win2K exploit to get into 'the matrix' |
| 21:04.26 | acrid | hehe |
| 21:05.24 | Zelut | and then they made the 3rd movie and nobody cares about the matrix anymore. |
| 21:08.41 | acrid | that's the truth |
| 21:15.33 | Zelut | redbeard1: I linked you on the latest UTOS meeting reminder post. |
| 21:16.00 | redbeard1 | Zelut: you did? why? |
| 21:16.11 | Zelut | enticing them to come since there will be cake |
| 21:16.26 | redbeard1 | ah, cake bribe |
| 21:16.31 | Zelut | since this weeks meet is after the plug meet |
| 21:16.36 | redbeard1 | right right |
| 21:16.52 | Zelut | you're so famous |
| 21:17.22 | atoponce | the best thing about the movie 'hackers' is the fact that the "code" scrolls across the screen, and zero cool just sits there and reads it |
| 21:17.44 | atoponce | funny, i thought code had indentation, and stayed static on my screen, unless i scroll it |
| 21:18.09 | atoponce | and, so many editors have color syntax highlighting for me to easily see what is what |
| 21:22.58 | [phoenyx] | that's just a crutch |
| 21:23.24 | [phoenyx] | if you were a *real* hacker you wouldn't need colors or whitespace |
| 21:24.04 | Zelut | or anything more than 1 & 0 |
| 21:24.35 | tristanbob_ | do you recommend using the 64-bit version of ubuntu on Intel core 2 duo |
| 21:25.25 | Zelut | i think it is better optimized for the hardware but I generally don't like 64bit for lacking software support. |
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| 21:32.30 | atoponce | lacking software support, and i hear there are bugs |
| 21:32.42 | tristanbob_ | I agree |
| 21:32.45 | atoponce | although, i'm running 64-bit debian at work, and it runs great |
| 21:32.46 | tristanbob_ | 32 bit runs fine I think |
| 21:32.49 | atoponce | etch, that is |
| 21:32.57 | tristanbob_ | on 64 bit hardware |
| 21:33.00 | atoponce | yes |
| 21:33.12 | tristanbob_ | hmmmm what a dilema |
| 21:33.27 | atoponce | i've heard it's not the case for ubuntu though |
| 21:33.40 | atoponce | all over the forums, the advice is to use 32-bit |
| 21:34.14 | tristanbob_ | cool - I think I am leaning towards that |
| 21:34.47 | atoponce | install server though |
| 21:34.56 | atoponce | then install the gui on top |
| 21:35.13 | atoponce | ubuntu-desktop, that is |
| 21:47.07 | Zelut | I've assumed I was going to use 32bit on my new core 2 duo that gets here tomorrow. |
| 21:48.59 | atoponce | lucky</napolean> |
| 21:49.18 | Zelut | I wish it got here today.. ohh well. |
| 21:51.23 | Zelut | this doesn't make sense to me though: http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?action=track&language=english&cntry_code=us&initial=x&tracknumbers=914509858959 |
| 21:51.43 | Zelut | from china to alaska to in to tn and then back to ut? |
| 21:52.42 | atoponce | that makes sense. your package is on a truck that needs to make a couple stops |
| 21:53.04 | atoponce | if you chose a faster shipping method, then it would get it's own priority and delivery route |
| 21:53.17 | atoponce | but rather, it gets to travel with other packages of the same priority |
| 21:54.04 | Zelut | half way acress the country out of the way and back. |
| 21:56.01 | atoponce | oh. poh babee. want a baba wif yo booboo? |
| 21:56.07 | atoponce | :) |
| 21:56.29 | Zelut | I'll shutup |
| 21:56.33 | atoponce | lol |
| 21:57.21 | Zelut | so I think we're going to start looking for a house up north. anyone have suggestions? |
| 21:57.44 | Zelut | SLC to kaysville I think is what I'm looking at. I don't like commuting much. |
| 21:57.50 | atoponce | nice |
| 21:57.53 | atoponce | where do you work? |
| 21:57.54 | [phoenyx] | housing prices in Logan are really low right now |
| 21:58.05 | atoponce | i thought you worked in provo or orem... |
| 22:00.18 | redbeard1 | why is it that when somebody clicks on a link to my site from wiki.ubuntu.com, it doesn't show that in the referer field? |
| 22:00.38 | atoponce | because it's https, i think |
| 22:01.00 | redbeard1 | Zelut: isn't there a shanghai in canada? |
| 22:01.19 | Zelut | atoponce: I currently work down here but I'm thinking of relocating for a different job up north. |
| 22:01.28 | atoponce | cool |
| 22:01.34 | Zelut | redbeard1: I don't know but my guess is china. |
| 22:01.51 | Zelut | atoponce: i'm really seriously looking at Guru again, although they don't know it yet. :) |
| 22:02.09 | redbeard1 | Zelut: http://www.shanghai.gc.ca/ |
| 22:02.42 | Zelut | redbeard1: learn something new everday |
| 22:03.46 | redbeard1 | Zelut: look closer. it's not referring to shanghai, canada |
| 22:04.17 | redbeard1 | "Our vision is to be the premier portal linking Canada and East-China in trade, cultural and people to people relations" |
| 22:04.26 | redbeard1 | so yeah, looks like you ended up in china |
| 22:05.16 | Zelut | redbeard1: think I can get ubuntu setup with Beryl between tomorrow morning & plug? :) |
| 22:05.50 | redbeard1 | heh. maybe. |
| 22:06.12 | Zelut | on a non-mac I'm sure I could in just a few hours. bootcamp is all new to me though so that might take some more time |
| 22:09.17 | Zelut | sontek_: my mono post is up now. I'm wondering how well it'll be recieved.. |
| 22:11.28 | atoponce | well, i just joined the eff |
| 22:13.41 | Zelut | cool |
| 22:15.56 | Zelut | redbeard1: did I tell you I tried the ubuntu cookies and it was a horrible disaster? :) |
| 22:16.21 | atoponce | just added an eff badge to my site, but i'm not seeing it in the sidebar. can anyone else? |
| 22:17.17 | Zelut | atoponce: do you have wp-cache turned on? |
| 22:17.25 | atoponce | yeah |
| 22:17.31 | Zelut | that'll do it. |
| 22:17.37 | atoponce | what does that mean, then? |
| 22:17.51 | Zelut | your page is cached so your changes aren't appearing. |
| 22:18.05 | atoponce | how long until i see it? |
| 22:18.16 | Zelut | if you disable that and only turn it on when you expect a /.'ing you'll see changes immediately. |
| 22:18.42 | atoponce | ahh |
| 22:18.43 | atoponce | cool |
| 22:19.08 | Zelut | there it is |
| 22:29.35 | Zelut | I'm about ready to call it a day but I've got 3 more hours :( |
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| 23:17.55 | jett_ | hey |
| 23:18.07 | jett__ | hows it going guys |
| 23:18.14 | Zelut | hi |
| 23:18.25 | jett__ | hmm do i have to user entries? |
| 23:19.41 | jett__ | hmm let me try and fix irc |
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| 23:19.56 | jett_ | test 123 |
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| 23:38.33 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | ok do any of you know how to use irc? |
| 23:38.38 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | anyone use xchat? |
| 23:39.38 | Zelut | lol |
| 23:39.44 | Zelut | we're all using IRC now :) |
| 23:40.19 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | lol well i mean like really know it lol |
| 23:40.40 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | ok im trying make it so i can auto join channels when i connect |
| 23:41.41 | Zelut | I'm not using xchat but I can tell you how to do it in gaim |
| 23:42.25 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | ok |
| 23:42.52 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | is it like this #ubuntu-utah,#ubuntu,#fedora,etc? |
| 23:43.27 | Zelut | you can look at this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/10/07/how-to-auto-join-irc-channels-via-gaim-gaim-15-20/ |
| 23:44.34 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | did you make that tutorial? |
| 23:48.15 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | hey well thanks for the tutorial, i like the site im gonna get there feeds |
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| 23:52.22 | Zelut | yeah, that is my site |
| 23:57.42 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | nice dude, im very impressed |
| 23:58.00 | Jett-AKA-Sparky | how many readers you have? |
| 23:59.32 | Zelut | roughly 800 on the rss. another 100 or so on the email updates. |