| 00:21.59 | Zelut | freaking having trouble with bitlbee again. |
| 00:22.18 | Zelut | urg that pisses me off. I need to try the latest 1.1dev version I guess |
| 00:27.10 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah dgoodwin1976 (n=dgoodwin@24.10.212.33) |
| 00:29.22 | dgoodwin1976 | ping atoponce |
| 00:33.46 | atoponce | pong |
| 00:34.00 | atoponce | dgoodwin1976: what's up? |
| 01:00.02 | dgoodwin1976 | Sorry atoponce, left the room for a minute. Just a quick quick question. Is there a way (easy) to control fan rpm on a laptop? |
| 01:00.38 | atoponce | yes and no |
| 01:00.55 | atoponce | depends on your laptop motherboard, and whether or not they give you that ability |
| 01:02.04 | dgoodwin1976 | CPU fan runs at higher rpm in vista but in Ubuntu runs slower.. |
| 01:02.40 | atoponce | that's good |
| 01:03.26 | dgoodwin1976 | I just don't want to ruin my precessor by having it not cool enough in ubuntu |
| 01:03.27 | atoponce | that's because ubuntu does cpu throttling, so it runs the fan when your cpu is proccessing hard, and long |
| 01:04.35 | dgoodwin1976 | So if it's running I should just chill and let ubuntu take care of me? |
| 01:04.42 | atoponce | you can add the 'cpu frequency scaling monitor' to your panel, and watch your cpu while you work |
| 01:04.53 | atoponce | you'll see that the fan operates in relation to that |
| 01:05.12 | dgoodwin1976 | Is cpu scaling the same as fan speed? |
| 01:05.31 | atoponce | yeah. let ubuntu handle it. if your cpu gets hot, then ubuntu well halt giving a message that it is too hot |
| 01:05.34 | atoponce | no |
| 01:05.40 | atoponce | cpu scaling is not the same |
| 01:06.09 | atoponce | cpu scaling is changing the frequency of the processor for different applications and environments |
| 01:06.27 | atoponce | the fan speed is used in proportion to the thermal sensor on the board |
| 01:06.32 | dgoodwin1976 | mine says 800 MHz |
| 01:06.47 | atoponce | if the thermal sensor senses that the cpu is too hot, then it kicks up the fan rpm |
| 01:07.57 | atoponce | what laptop do you have? |
| 01:08.15 | dgoodwin1976 | Acer 5100 |
| 01:09.04 | dgoodwin1976 | This is my first experience with Ubuntu on a laptop. |
| 01:10.17 | dgoodwin1976 | So far everything works awesome except I had to compile alsa sound drivers and run Ndiswrapper for wireless but other than that it's cool. |
| 01:10.34 | atoponce | sweet |
| 01:11.07 | dgoodwin1976 | Are you going to the feisty party in April? |
| 01:11.17 | atoponce | ok. so you have an AMD Turion 64, running at 2GHz |
| 01:11.20 | atoponce | yeah |
| 01:11.23 | atoponce | of course |
| 01:11.50 | atoponce | so, if it's currently running at 800 MHz, then that means that you have CPU frequency scaling, and it's not being pushed |
| 01:12.04 | atoponce | encode and Ogg Vorbis file, and you'll see that value jump |
| 01:12.14 | atoponce | encode for a while, and your fan speed will pick up |
| 01:12.37 | dgoodwin1976 | cool I will encode my mp3 library in ogg and test |
| 01:13.10 | dgoodwin1976 | Have you tried Songbird yet? |
| 01:13.13 | atoponce | that tells me that ubuntu is monitoring your cpu and fan as it should be |
| 01:13.16 | atoponce | you're in good hands |
| 01:13.44 | dgoodwin1976 | I wouldn't doubt it. |
| 01:14.13 | atoponce | it makes sense that vista would have the fan at a higher speed, due to the nature of the beast |
| 01:14.24 | dgoodwin1976 | System hog? |
| 01:14.34 | atoponce | it's got so much eye candy enabled by default, that the cpu is probably working overtime, all the time |
| 01:14.51 | atoponce | with ubuntu's minimalist approach to the gui, you don't need all that push |
| 01:15.08 | atoponce | so, if i were you, i'd be more worried about my cpu running in vista, than in ubuntu |
| 01:15.12 | atoponce | :) |
| 01:15.15 | dgoodwin1976 | So true. |
| 01:15.26 | atoponce | you're cpu won't last as long, if it's always being pushed that hard |
| 01:15.35 | atoponce | same goes with any hardware |
| 01:15.54 | atoponce | s/'re/r' |
| 01:15.58 | atoponce | s/'re/r/ |
| 01:16.01 | atoponce | had |
| 01:16.02 | atoponce | bah |
| 01:16.08 | atoponce | ~whatever |
| 01:16.11 | jbot | hmm... whatever is an expression of confusionambivalence, or something else |
| 01:16.42 | dgoodwin1976 | Have you guys tried Songbird? |
| 01:16.51 | atoponce | yeah |
| 01:16.55 | atoponce | using it now, actually |
| 01:17.26 | dgoodwin1976 | Cool I just installed it yesterday and already I love it. |
| 01:18.28 | dgoodwin1976 | Thanks for all you help atoponce I will see you in April for the release party. Take care |
| 01:18.33 | atoponce | np |
| 01:18.35 | atoponce | ttyl |
| 01:18.54 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah dgoodwin1976 (n=dgoodwin@24.10.212.33) |
| 01:19.19 | Zelut | atoponce: who is that? |
| 01:20.28 | atoponce | he was sitting next to me at our last meet |
| 01:20.41 | atoponce | talked kinda slow and loud |
| 01:20.44 | atoponce | he was there before i was |
| 01:20.57 | atoponce | ...can't remember his name... |
| 01:21.24 | atoponce | he seemed *really* new to ubuntu and linux in general |
| 01:22.03 | Zelut | hmm, ok |
| 01:42.09 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah sontek (n=sontek@c-67-161-252-206.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 01:42.48 | sontek | :) |
| 03:11.35 | atoponce | http://xmission.com/~introplay/brainshare/ |
| 03:31.48 | sontek | w00t |
| 03:31.53 | sontek | Thanks =) |
| 03:37.48 | atoponce | np |
| 03:37.55 | atoponce | how's it look? |
| 03:47.20 | sontek | looks good :) |
| 03:50.58 | atoponce | sontek: what's your blog url? |
| 03:55.27 | atoponce | http://www.pthree.org/2007/03/19/bruce-perens-rains-on-the-novell-brainshare-parade/ |
| 04:14.42 | sontek | http://blog.sontek.net |
| 04:18.37 | HoneyShiv | atoponce: your links to xmission aren't resolving on my end. |
| 04:19.18 | HoneyShiv | nevermind |
| 04:21.21 | herlo | http://digg.com/tech_news/Bruce_Perens_Rains_on_the_Novell_Brainshare_Parade |
| 04:21.25 | herlo | digg away! |
| 04:21.38 | herlo | hi HoneyShiv, how's things? |
| 04:28.25 | HoneyShiv | hey herlo |
| 04:32.41 | herlo | hey HoneyShiv |
| 04:48.08 | Zelut | atoponce: ping |
| 04:56.02 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
| 04:56.39 | Zelut | atoponce: your audio stopped after a few minutes.. is that just me? |
| 04:57.33 | atoponce | lemme check |
| 04:58.20 | Zelut | it just stopped playing a bit into his reading the note from RMS |
| 04:58.24 | atoponce | mp3 or ogg? |
| 04:59.14 | Zelut | .ogg |
| 05:04.45 | atoponce | still going |
| 05:04.51 | atoponce | he just finished the statement |
| 05:05.04 | atoponce | i'm 6:06 into it |
| 05:06.29 | Zelut | maybe it was just me.. |
| 05:11.30 | atoponce | http://digg.com/tech_news/Bruce_Perens_Rains_on_the_Novell_Brainshare_Parade |
| 05:12.34 | atoponce | bah |
| 05:12.39 | Zelut | hehe |
| 05:12.53 | atoponce | i didn't see it, and i even looked too. :) |
| 05:13.54 | Zelut | will I'm off. |
| 05:14.05 | atoponce | nighty-night |
| 05:14.09 | Zelut | just formally announced my position at GL. And I'm starting on Mon :) |
| 05:14.18 | atoponce | as in *this* mon? |
| 05:14.43 | Zelut | as in the 26th |
| 05:14.55 | atoponce | nice |
| 05:15.09 | Zelut | anyway, ttyl. |
| 05:15.25 | atoponce | ttyl |
| 05:42.37 | sontek | katie finally has ubuntu installed =) |
| 07:03.14 | Zelut | sontek: nice |
| 12:44.00 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv (n=chatzill@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 15:33.04 | maquis | AARRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! |
| 15:35.54 | atoponce | uh oh |
| 16:09.35 | maquis | i'm better now |
| 16:09.39 | Zelut | morninng |
| 16:09.44 | maquis | i just had to get that out of my system |
| 16:41.57 | atoponce | i've hit front page of programming.reddit.com |
| 16:43.04 | atoponce | http://programming.reddit.com/info/1bkm9/comments |
| 16:43.30 | Zelut | my commentary on mono hit that front page for a few days too. |
| 16:43.48 | Zelut | i like reddit more than digg anymore, just wish it had the same amount of traffic. |
| 16:44.02 | atoponce | yeah |
| 16:44.16 | atoponce | it's going to hit groklaw pretty quickly |
| 16:44.32 | atoponce | and the story (not my blog) was on the front page of sltrib |
| 16:44.40 | atoponce | money section, that is |
| 16:46.23 | Zelut | right on |
| 16:46.41 | atoponce | personally, i'd rather have it on groklaw than slashdot |
| 16:47.15 | atoponce | even if it doesn't get the traffic, it's a much more repudatable source |
| 16:47.23 | Zelut | yeah. |
| 16:59.02 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah stuporglue (n=stuporgl@tmpserver-48-243.et.byu.edu) |
| 17:26.50 | atoponce | hit groklaw |
| 17:29.01 | Zelut | link? |
| 17:29.23 | herlo | http://www.groklaw.net |
| 17:29.25 | atoponce | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070320130321622 |
| 17:29.34 | herlo | doh |
| 17:29.35 | herlo | ! |
| 17:29.53 | herlo | though it is at the top of the blog right now |
| 17:33.53 | Zelut | well done. that't going to get some traffic |
| 17:36.26 | atoponce | yeah. i'm seeing the traffic already |
| 17:38.09 | herlo | ;) |
| 17:38.57 | Zelut | good thing you got the heavy stuff hosted on xmission |
| 17:41.27 | atoponce | yeah |
| 17:41.33 | atoponce | i thought about that last night |
| 17:41.44 | atoponce | that's the stuff that would bring it to it's knees |
| 17:45.24 | atoponce | good thing for wp-cache |
| 17:51.52 | Zelut | looks like it was worth getting to. Wish I could have made it. |
| 18:06.30 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 18:06.30 | *** topic/#ubuntu-utah is Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam | https://launchpad.net/~utahteam | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-utah | Next Meeting: Feisty Release Party April 21 @ Orbit Cafe in SLC- Ping Zelut, atoponce or HoneyShiv for details |
| 18:09.45 | sontek | =) |
| 18:09.45 | sontek | brb |
| 18:14.08 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah stuporglue (n=stuporgl@tmpserver-48-243.et.byu.edu) |
| 18:30.32 | Zelut | well I just built bitlbee 1.1dev manually. Hopefully this solves my trouble. |
| 18:37.29 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv_ (n=chatzill@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 18:37.50 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah HoneyShiv_ (n=chatzill@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 18:38.38 | Zelut | anyone that uses bitlbee want to help test this deb? |
| 18:48.59 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah sontek (n=sontek@208-47-173-164.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 18:51.05 | sontek | perens posting is getting some publicity :P |
| 18:51.59 | Zelut | sontek: are you using bitlbee? |
| 18:53.01 | sontek | not right now, I have it installed, want me sit in it for a couple days to see if mine blows up like yours? :p |
| 18:54.10 | Zelut | sontek: I just built a .deb for the latest 1.1dev which is supposed to fix the jabber trouble. Wondered if you wanted to test it. |
| 18:54.57 | sontek | Zelut: I'll check it out |
| 18:55.10 | sontek | does it handle dependencies and upgrading? |
| 18:57.50 | Zelut | well it doesn't follow deb policy strictly, so probably wont upgrade well. |
| 18:57.51 | Zelut | ...I just want to see if it solves the problems I've been having |
| 18:58.14 | Zelut | if it does fix it I can take the time to do it right and make it more compatible |
| 20:52.51 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 20:52.51 | *** topic/#ubuntu-utah is Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam | https://launchpad.net/~utahteam | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-utah | Next Meeting: Feisty Release Party April 21 @ Orbit Cafe in SLC- Ping Zelut, atoponce or HoneyShiv for details |
| 20:52.54 | atoponce | herlo: true |
| 20:53.09 | atoponce | and, of course, there's the creative commons licenses |
| 20:53.15 | atoponce | which aren't listed there |
| 20:53.19 | herlo | several of those... |
| 20:53.27 | herlo | but those aren't open source licenses per se |
| 20:53.34 | atoponce | right |
| 20:53.48 | atoponce | they are about media over code, afaict |
| 20:54.01 | Zelut | yeah, I put my blog under a CC license and was told it wasn't compatible with the Ubuntu Wiki license.. |
| 20:54.09 | herlo | right |
| 20:54.42 | atoponce | and, i would've put the perens media under CC, but i want the work attributed and left from proprietary commercial work |
| 20:55.04 | atoponce | so, i don't think the gpl was appropriate per se, but it works |
| 20:55.27 | Zelut | do you guys think a team meet (or any lug meet) would be good on licensing? or too boring? |
| 20:55.41 | atoponce | i've been debating blogging about it |
| 20:56.25 | Zelut | I would like to.. if I understood it. |
| 20:56.26 | Zelut | I finally just wrote an email to the ubuntu docs team releasing full rights for use, duplication and distribution of the contents of my blog. |
| 20:56.58 | herlo | Zelut: I'd come. Someone needs to know what they all mean though, or we need to spend time researching the big differences... |
| 20:56.58 | Zelut | ..instead of finding another license I just gave them particular permission for now. |
| 20:57.08 | atoponce | herlo: i'm willing to spend some time on that, creating a team, if needed |
| 20:57.52 | herlo | atoponce: what do you mean "creating a team" |
| 20:58.19 | herlo | you mean like an Ubuntu Licensing team or something? Do they know all about licenses? |
| 20:58.41 | atoponce | no |
| 20:58.49 | herlo | then what? |
| 20:58.50 | atoponce | i mean like a project |
| 20:59.06 | atoponce | where a few of us get together, split it up, and present it to the team |
| 20:59.07 | Zelut | just a project with some other local guys? |
| 20:59.23 | atoponce | yeah |
| 20:59.30 | sontek | I call MIT ;) |
| 20:59.30 | atoponce | like our python jabber client |
| 21:00.02 | sontek | "MIT == PD++" |
| 21:00.07 | sontek | done! |
| 21:05.11 | atoponce | yeah. i read them on spare time |
| 21:05.18 | atoponce | very boring, but informative |
| 21:06.32 | sontek | pssh, just move in with your girl so you have no obligations of spending extra time with her! thats what I do! |
| 21:08.20 | herlo | ~lart Zelut |
| 21:12.14 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 21:12.14 | *** topic/#ubuntu-utah is Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam | https://launchpad.net/~utahteam | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-utah | Next Meeting: Feisty Release Party April 21 @ Orbit Cafe in SLC- Ping Zelut, atoponce or HoneyShiv for details |
| 21:15.33 | herlo | http://www.herlo.org/Heather_n_Mary.jpg |
| 21:16.46 | sontek | Shes a little young... ;) |
| 21:17.25 | atoponce | who's the d00d in che back, checking her out? |
| 21:17.37 | sontek | herlo: You are a contributor to torrentflux? |
| 21:17.42 | herlo | sontek: yes |
| 21:17.57 | herlo | atoponce: dunno |
| 21:18.03 | sontek | herlo: My friends and I wrote a replacement for it called torrentvolve |
| 21:18.06 | atoponce | and, it looks like she has a ring... |
| 21:18.13 | herlo | sontek: really? |
| 21:18.16 | sontek | herlo: well, they wrote it, and now i'm cleaning up their code |
| 21:18.24 | atoponce | she's taken... |
| 21:18.30 | herlo | sontek: it has some big memory leaks |
| 21:19.10 | herlo | atoponce: long story, but she's divorced |
| 21:19.10 | herlo | that was about 6mos ago... |
| 21:19.10 | sontek | herlo: flux or volve? |
| 21:19.10 | herlo | let me get you a more recent... |
| 21:19.10 | herlo | sontek: flux |
| 21:19.10 | herlo | never used volve |
| 21:19.20 | sontek | herlo: yeah, there were a few things that we didn't like about flux |
| 21:19.21 | sontek | herlo: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=179905 |
| 21:19.37 | sontek | herlo: Once I checkin my latest code (probably over the weekend) volve will be 100x better than it is right now |
| 21:19.43 | herlo | atoponce: http://www.herlo.org/clint_n_heather.jpg |
| 21:19.58 | herlo | sontek: what's it written in php? |
| 21:20.07 | atoponce | cool |
| 21:20.26 | herlo | atoponce: that was 3 weeks ago I think... |
| 21:20.39 | herlo | in Utah at Happy Sumo in Provo |
| 21:21.13 | herlo | man my hair has grown since then. I need another haircut already... |
| 21:21.15 | atoponce | i was just going to ask where it was taken |
| 21:21.34 | herlo | atoponce: haha |
| 21:21.46 | atoponce | herlo: looked like a high school dance... :) |
| 21:22.06 | herlo | sontek: I'll look into it and play with it some... |
| 21:22.22 | herlo | atoponce: nope, but I can see how you'd think that, I cropped it down some... |
| 21:22.41 | sontek | herlo: In my opinin code for volve is a lot more flexible than flux's |
| 21:22.53 | sontek | herlo: but they had a few guys helping out at the beginning who liked to hardcode things |
| 21:23.11 | sontek | herlo: so I'm going through right now and refactoring a lot of the code and writing some javascript to cleanup the interface |
| 21:23.34 | sontek | herlo: but yeah its php (missed that before) |
| 21:28.31 | herlo | teaching now, will check back soon |
| 21:28.57 | herlo | sontek: cool, maybe I'll contribute some there.... |
| 21:49.11 | atoponce | gads |
| 21:49.19 | atoponce | almost 1100 uniques today |
| 21:49.20 | atoponce | not bad |
| 21:49.27 | Zelut | w00t |
| 21:49.37 | Zelut | good healthy backlinks too |
| 21:50.24 | atoponce | yeah |
| 21:51.33 | atoponce | why? |
| 21:52.09 | atoponce | slashdot? meh, but groklaw... that's good stuff, i think |
| 21:53.31 | Zelut | personally don't love slashdot but all google sees is a really established domain like slashdot linking to me. |
| 21:53.48 | Zelut | atoponce: I've got the SEO mindset from working here :) |
| 22:13.15 | atoponce | sontek: ping |
| 22:14.15 | sontek | atoponce: hey =) |
| 22:14.17 | Zelut | hehe I just setup Beryl on this macbook. |
| 22:16.27 | atoponce | sontek: do you want your name attributed to the images on the site that you provided? |
| 22:16.48 | atoponce | the xmission site, that is |
| 22:17.08 | sontek | I don't mind, I don't plan on taking up photography anytime soon |
| 22:17.16 | sontek | but if you are bored go ahead :p |
| 22:18.24 | atoponce | well, the press may use the images, and i didn't want to take credit for them |
| 22:18.26 | atoponce | that's all |
| 22:18.44 | atoponce | i'm redoing that site, a bit, and was just thinking about it |
| 22:18.50 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah Kemotaha (i=nblackha@nat/novell/x-3e0283f9a3d53078) |
| 22:18.58 | Kemotaha | ahoy all |
| 22:20.27 | atoponce | howdy |
| 22:22.38 | herlo | back |
| 22:25.05 | Zelut | heya |
| 22:36.53 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 22:36.53 | *** topic/#ubuntu-utah is Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam | https://launchpad.net/~utahteam | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-utah | Next Meeting: Feisty Release Party April 21 @ Orbit Cafe in SLC- Ping Zelut, atoponce or HoneyShiv for details |
| 22:53.21 | atoponce | sontek: http://xmission.com/~introplay/brainshare/ |
| 23:38.29 | Zelut | yawn |
| 23:45.01 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah etank (n=etank@74-140-129-0.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
