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00:41.00herloZelut: ping me
00:41.23herloor anyone, ping me
00:42.02herlothanx etank...
00:42.06etanknp
00:42.15Zelutherlo: ping
00:42.33herlowhat I meant was what Zelut did,,,
00:42.34herlothx
00:42.57herloZelut: again please
00:43.26herloI am testing this tool that will notify me locally if someone has said my name in a channel
00:43.38herloetank: or you could...I'd really appreciate it...
00:44.06etankherlo: ping
00:44.14herloetank: thanx
00:44.19etankoops
00:44.25herlowhat?
00:44.49etanknothing
00:46.13Zelutherlo: ping pong
00:46.41herloZelut: that totally works
00:46.49Zelutwhat does it do?
00:47.14herloso I found this scritp that uses lib-notify to tell me that someone says my name in irssi
00:47.22herloand it will notify me on my local box...
00:47.37herloping me again and I'll show you the screenshot...
00:48.01herlotis really cool...
00:48.07herloping herlo
00:48.14herlodoesn't work for me...
00:48.21herlobut if you do it, it should work...
00:48.50Zelutherlo: ohh, is it that feature I saw on fedora people?
00:49.03Zelutherlo: the update of the lib-notify that'll even work over ssh & screen?
00:49.39herloZelut: yeah
00:50.15herloZelut: another guy had one that was supposed to do it all with X forwarding turned on via ssh, but it was failing me.  I tried this one and it's beautiful...
00:50.29Zelutherlo: I was meaning to give that a try but haven't had a chance.
00:50.45etankherlo since you use irssi do you know how to get the nicklist to show how is away like Xchat can?
00:50.52etankor anyone really
00:51.26herloetank: I am unsure what you are referring to, do you just watn the nicklist to show up on the righ thand side or something?
00:51.52etanki have the nicklist on the right hand side in a screen session now
00:52.13etankwhat I would like is for it to change the color or something for the users that are marked away
00:52.38etankI can do a /who to see it now but it would be cool if it were automatic
00:53.42herloetank: don't know of one.  But there are a bunch of good scripts for irssi.  I'd ask atoponce
00:53.59etanki will do that then
00:54.04etankthanks herlo
00:54.07herloyes, you will...
00:54.10herloetank: anytime
00:54.18ZelutI'm heading home.  be back for the utos meeting
00:56.13herloZelut: cool, I'll have a post up by then with the screen shots from the irssi script
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01:22.51Zelutback
01:23.40herloZelut: cool, still working on the blog.  Had a few hiccups
01:35.47Zelutherlo: is that script primarily irssi based? not distro specific for any reason?
01:38.49UtahBot[Ubuntuforums] Installation issue(s) noobie - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=389504
01:38.59ZelutUtahBot: that was random.
01:39.50herloZelut: right
01:40.06Zelutherlo: remind me the link.  I want to check it out.
01:41.49herloZelut: I'll have it up soon, but the link is...http://thorstenl.blogspot.com/2007/01/thls-irssi-notification-script.html
01:49.15Zelutherlo: ping me
01:49.39ZelutZelut: ping
01:50.19herloZelut: ping
01:50.42herloZelut: the one thing Ive found with the script is it doesn't want to run in the background...
01:52.10Zelutherlo: the long string he's using to initiate it is giving me an error too.. what are you using?
01:52.22herlothat string
01:52.24Zelutherlo: I've added the script, renamed to .pl and loaded it at this point
01:52.32Zelutherlo: ssh remote.system.somewhere "tail -n 10 .irssi/fnotify ; : > .irssi/fnotify ; tail -f .irssi/fnotify " | sed -u 's/[<@&]//g' | while read heading message  do  notify-send -i gtk-dialog-info -t 300000 -- "${heading}" "${message}"; done
01:52.40Zelutthat string?
01:52.42herloyeah, that works for me
01:53.11Zelutherlo: I get "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
01:53.16Zelutwhen I run that string.
01:53.32herlooh, yeah, you need to add a ; before the do
01:53.39herloits a syntax error
01:53.50herloI forgot about that.  I am fixing the script a little on my side as well...
01:54.40Zelut...and now I'm getting 'notify-send command not found'
01:55.25herlohmm
01:55.38herloI'll have to look at it later, we should have our meeting now...
02:02.03sontekif the command isn't found you might not have loaded the script
02:02.46Zelutsontek: [19:51]            --- | Script: Loded script fnotify
02:04.11Zelutis there a way to find out what options can be available at build time when compiling?
02:05.20Zelutnevermind, I found it.
02:05.39ZelutI'm going to build bitlbee 1.1dev into a proper .deb and only include jabber support
02:08.31sontek<PROTECTED>
02:08.55Zelutthanks, thought I'd try it and it worked :)
02:09.24Zelutso far I think this new version is working well so I'm going to recompile tonite properly to share.
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02:59.14Zelutok
02:59.25herlowhat does 'whereis notify-send' say?
02:59.35Zelutnada
02:59.56herloyeah, hold on
03:00.07Zelut...and the us repo isn't responding. odd.
03:00.23herlo'tis in libnotify....
03:00.41Zelutok.  if that'll install I'll see how it works.
03:00.56sontekoh hi!
03:01.04herlosontek: hello
03:01.09sontekStop moving on me!
03:01.22herlosontek: we're done.  Besides we only moved once...
03:01.43sontekIt was a long drive back though!
03:01.53Zelutyeah dude, pay attention :)
03:02.10kissotdragonanywhere is closer than OH
03:03.04sontekwell I forgot that I was still at work.. i'm gonna head home
03:03.09sontekbe back in a few
03:03.21Zeluthehe ok
03:03.41Zeluthad to get libnotify-bin from xmission.. the ubuntu mirrors aren't responding, oddly enough
03:07.54herloyeah, that's odd for sure
03:11.04ZelutI still can't get that command to work though..
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03:11.50Zelut~lart Vorian : made you look
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03:14.22Vorian~lart Zelut
03:14.48Zelutson of a...
03:14.56Vorian:)
03:15.08ZelutI just found out a house in my complex is asking about $40,000 more than I guessed we were worth.
03:15.18Zelutwon't that be a nice surprise if I need to sell :)
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03:15.53redbeard2Zelut: ping
03:15.58Voriannice
03:16.15Vorianyou're in Orem, right?
03:16.16Zelutredbeard2: pong
03:16.32Zelutyes
03:16.38redbeard2Zelut: you know much about playing dvd's in mplayer?
03:16.59Zelutredbeard2: I don't use mplayer much, but do you have dvd playback enabled?
03:18.04redbeard2well, i'm not actually trying to play a dvd... i'm trying to play a .TiVo file, but it's telling me that it's an encrypted dvd, so it won't playback right
03:19.03Zelutinstalling the libdvdcss might solve that.. if you're ok with 'based on some worthless law is technically illegal'
03:19.53Zelutredbeard2: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/14/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-ubuntu-510-6061-610/
03:19.56redbeard2well, i've been looking around... apparent mplayer has tivo support built in now... and i have the media access key, which i'm assuming makes it legal
03:20.20ZelutI need to train my bot to show my tutorials based on keywords or package-names
03:21.53herloredbeard2: try dvdshrink with wine or dvd-decryptor with wine...
03:21.56redbeard2so, get this... the tivos with tivotogo actually run an https web server. username is tivo and the password is your media access key. this is the same interface that tivo desktop seems to use to transfer shows back and forth between tivos and windows and mac computers
03:22.09herloredbeard2: there's also dvd::shrink which I believe is a perl app...
03:22.32redbeard2near as i can tell, the supposed drm is just something that requires the media access key. as long as you supply that, they don't seem to care.
03:22.41herlohmm
03:23.09redbeard2mplayer's docs talk about how it supports tivo files, but it doesn't say how to pass in the mak
03:29.27Zelutherlo: ping
03:29.44Vorian:)
03:30.55Zelutherlo: so I couldn't sleep last nite after hearing the plan from Dax.
03:31.18herlosounds about right
03:32.30ZelutI just want to wrap up where I am and get started. a lot of my anxiety is based on wanting to start studying for the certs.
03:35.42herloI am sure it is.  I was anxious to move as well...
03:37.16herloZelut: ping me again
03:38.13Zelutdid you guys see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtp5gNhBZgo
03:38.27Zelutherlo: ping damnit - its my turn
03:38.46herloZelut: ping me again
03:38.52herloI just pinged you...
03:38.54herlowhat do yo uwant!
03:39.04Zelutherlo: I want it to work.  It doesn't work!
03:39.11herloit works for me!
03:39.23herloZelut: what's happening now...
03:39.55herloZelut: I just published the post for you to read if you like...
03:39.59redbeard2...
03:40.22herlohttp://fedora-tutorials.com
03:40.35Zelutherlo: that long command doesn't even complete the connection for me..
03:40.53herloZelut, I rewrote mine
03:40.56herlojust a bit
03:41.00ZelutI'll take a look
03:42.11herloI re-uploded it just now...
03:43.16Zelutok
03:44.19Zelutping me again
03:44.23herloZelut: I am goint to head off to a movie now...
03:44.27herlodid that work?
03:44.31herloZelut: ping
03:44.33herloZelut: pong
03:44.38herloZelut: woohoo!
03:44.43herloZelut: ???
03:44.55Zelutit is showing in the console where I lanuched irssi-script is all
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03:45.11herlothen the notify stuff isnt working correctly
03:45.18herloI added some bash debugging....
03:45.40herloZelut: you can edit the script and take out the -x on the top line if you like...
03:48.04herloZelut: let me know if you get it working....
03:50.20redbeard2have you guys ever heard of a program called ermin?
03:51.53sonteknope :/
03:55.55redbeard2grr
03:57.45Zelutdid you want to tell us about it?
03:57.59ZelutI wish this stupid script would just work
03:58.23sontekatoponce: did you remove the rafael recording from the site? I wanted to download it =)
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04:19.14sontekhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtp5gNhBZgo
04:22.27atoponcesontek: i ran into quota problems
04:22.47atoponcethen, because going over quota, when saving the file, it effectively erased it
04:27.58sontekI can host them at orchid if you want
04:28.25sontek10mb ds3 line
04:29.23atoponcei found ways to get the audio up, so, after a bit of tv, i'm working on getting the index.html restored
04:29.28atoponce:)
04:39.14sontekbrb
04:54.36atoponcewow
04:54.45atoponcealmost 1700 page views, with 1500 uniques
04:54.53atoponcebest post ever, by far
04:55.07atoponceof course, it helps that groklaw covered it... :)
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05:00.58Zelut...so i think the 20-12 kernel update (Feisty) just killed my media machine.
05:01.13Zelutcan't ssh in after two hard reboots. connection refused.
05:02.49atoponceouch
05:02.53atoponcethat's no fun
05:04.33atoponceand i was just saying how i got over 1700 page views today with ~1500 uniques
05:04.37atoponcew00t
05:04.51Zelutits headless too so I'll have to pull apart another machine to get in closer
05:04.58Zelutnot something I want to do tonite.
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05:07.36Zelutit responds to pings but no other service (ssh, http, telnet..)
05:07.59ZelutI'm going to bed.  I'll deal with it tomorrow
05:08.39sontekgoodnight
05:10.40atoponcesontek: the page is finished
05:11.04sontekyay :]
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13:36.32atoponceherlo: ping
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14:21.04herloatoponce: pong
14:37.56sontek=)
14:37.57sontekbrb
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15:43.30atoponce!forums
15:43.31UtahBot[Ubuntuforums] Will the new release of ubuntu be including beryl? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380020
15:43.31UtahBot[Ubuntuforums] Test - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380275
15:43.32UtahBot[Ubuntuforums] Installation issue(s) noobie - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=389504
15:44.13atoponcegood to see it's working
15:51.22atoponceherlo: ping
15:51.34herloatoponce: pong
15:51.43atoponcedidn't work
15:52.03herloatoponce: my pop-ups are working beautifully
15:52.09atoponceherlo: nothing here
15:52.12herloyou can ping me and I'll know
15:52.19atoponceherlo: what'd you do to get it working?
15:52.25herloatoponce: I am sorry...
15:52.30herloatoponce: did you read my blog post?
15:52.35atoponceyeah
15:53.10atoponcefnotify script loaded in irssi...
15:53.17atoponcein .bashrc:
15:53.26atoponcebash irssi_notify.sh 7
15:53.28herloso did you actually run
15:53.32atoponces/7/&/
15:53.34herlo. ~/.bashrc
15:53.43atoponcesource .basrc
15:53.45atoponcesame thing
15:53.46atoponceyeah
15:54.03atoponceand irssi_notify.sh is on my local machine, right?
15:54.17herloatoponce: ping
15:54.21atoponceall i need to change is the remote host?
15:54.24atoponceherlo: nothing
15:55.21atoponceherlo: http://pastebin.ca/405179
15:55.37herloatoponce: I have to teach in a few minutes...but I'll have a look
15:55.53etank.wi jbot
15:56.07atoponceherlo: fine. be that way
15:56.09atoponce:)
15:56.24atoponceit looks like ~/.irssi/fnotify has all the info in the file...
15:56.37herloatoponce: do 'which notify-send'
15:57.28atoponcenothing
15:57.35atoponcethat would probably be the problem
15:57.49atoponcesudo aptitdue install libnotify-dev?
15:57.53atoponceprobably
15:58.32sontekits -bin
15:59.04herloatoponce: yeah that's the problem
15:59.20atoponceok. try again
15:59.37herloatoponce: ping
15:59.44atoponcenothing
15:59.53atoponcehmmm...
16:00.24atoponcelol
16:00.28atoponceond, there we are
16:00.34atoponces/on/an/
16:00.43atoponcedo they not go away?
16:01.19herloyou have to click them
16:01.27atoponcethat's okay then
16:01.32herloI am guessing there is a delay feature, but I've not researched
16:01.57atoponceso, you can't have 'bash irssi_notify.sh &' in the .bashrc, i'm guessing either
16:02.39atoponces/either//
16:05.21herloatoponce: ping
16:05.22herloatoponce: ping
16:05.27herloatoponce: ping
16:05.29herloatoponce: ping
16:05.32herlo:)
16:05.42herloatoponce: how many messages was that?
16:06.16atoponcei killed the ps
16:06.31atoponcei'm making it multi-server capable
16:06.52atoponceseeing as though i'm logged into a few screen irssi sessions
16:20.54atoponce~lart jbot
16:21.12atoponce~ping
16:21.15jbotpong
16:21.19atoponce~ping atoponce
16:21.21jbotpong atoponce
16:21.28atoponce~atoponce
16:21.29jbothmm... atoponce is the coolest Ubuntu user in Utah!
16:21.33atoponcelol
16:21.35atoponcethat's right
16:22.05redbeard1herlo: i find it amusing that your fedora post had a screencap with #ubuntu-utah in it
16:24.08atoponceso, i guess this script only works if your name is mentioned first
16:26.03atoponce~atoponce
16:26.04jbotit has been said that atoponce is the coolest Ubuntu user in Utah!
16:26.09atoponcebummer
16:26.29atoponcei'll have to hack the perl script to grep the name out of the line
16:26.33atoponcei'll get to that later
16:52.59herloatoponce: ping
17:02.24atoponce*gasp*
17:02.31atoponcei didn't get the notification
17:02.35atoponcewhat gives?
17:06.02atoponceherlo: try again
17:06.24atoponcenm. it's not working
17:06.28atoponcesomething is up
17:07.17atoponceherlo: poing
17:07.25atoponces/ing/ng/
17:09.55herloatoponce: nice
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17:31.07Zelutstill can't get into my home server :(
17:34.04atoponceZelut: no luck, eh?
17:35.17Zeluthaven't had time to look at it hands-on yet..
17:35.42atoponceso, what'd you do?
17:36.37atoponces/'d/ did/
17:36.43atoponceinteresting
17:36.54atoponcethe script doesn't work when the screensaver is running
17:37.34atoponceneed to get all these quirks worked out, i think
17:39.12Zelutwhat script?
17:39.40atoponceirssi_notify.sh
17:40.31Zelutohh.  I was fighting with that last nite too.
17:41.47atoponcei think i have everything worked out.
17:41.50atoponcehopefully
17:43.07Zelutwere you basing it off herlo's post or..?
17:43.22atoponcei found another, but, yeah, his post
17:43.49atoponcei'm going to have a detailed how-to on it, but first, i need to get everything worked out
17:43.56atoponceit's very quirky
17:44.03atoponce~atoponce
17:44.16jbothmm... atoponce is the coolest Ubuntu user in Utah!
17:44.16atoponce~lart jbot
17:44.25atoponcenice
17:44.28atoponcethat's better
17:44.43atoponce/hilight -nick <your_nick>
17:45.14atoponcenow, irssi hilights my nick in the channel, as well as sending me a notification, regardless of where thi nick is in the line
17:45.33atoponces/thi/the/
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17:48.05ZelutHoneyShiv: no class?
17:48.12HoneyShivnope :)
17:48.31HoneyShiv(well no on one of them)
18:08.54Zelutwell this answers might boot problem
18:08.55Zelutdue to a kernel regression, which causes boot failures on quite a lot
18:08.56Zelutof systems, we are delaying the beta release by one day, to Friday
18:09.08Zelutgood thing I didn't update this machine first
18:14.53herloZelut: nice
18:16.20atoponceZelut: so did you update your server to feisty?
18:18.17ZelutI did, to try the later build of bitlbee.
18:18.51Zelutit has been really stable on my desktop so far so I thought I'd do it.
18:19.05Zelutat least it is just my media / file server / irssi machine.
18:19.23Zelutlooks like if I just plug a monitor into it I can boot to a previous kernel and be fine.
18:20.04herloZelut: yeah for sure...
18:20.34atoponceZelut: but the server is still serving, right? other than sshd?
18:28.02Zelutatoponce: I don't think its serving anything.. I can't connect via http, ssh, telnet, or the other random ports I have access to.
18:28.10ZelutI think it's locking at boot.
18:28.18atoponceahh
18:28.21atoponcei see
18:28.40Zelutkernel panic maybe
18:30.29herloZelut: a kernel panic will usually be displayed....
18:31.07herloZelut: I bet you are running into some rc scripts that don't run or LVM isnt working or something during the init process...
18:31.38Zelutherlo: it might be displayed but as the server is headless I have no idea until I can plug it in.
18:31.51Zelutall I know so far is that note from the ubuntu-devel list & not having any access.
18:31.51herloZelut: I know...
18:32.01ZelutI'm sure when I sit down to it I'll figure it out pretty quickly.
18:32.11herlopretty much...
18:32.44herloand how much they are....
18:34.01atoponceand, /. takes the bruce perens article
18:35.12Zelutatoponce: you're /.'d now too?
18:35.24atoponcenot my blog, but the xmission site is
18:35.30atoponcethey took the link to my blog out
18:35.39atoponceso, i put it on the xmission page
18:36.18Zelutlol
18:36.29atoponcei'll get some love... :)
18:45.31atoponcenot bad, i think...
18:46.32atoponcei link in a comment on digg, front page of reddit, groklaw and technocrat, and one link from /., not to mention, a few blog and editor article links
18:46.38atoponcegood coverage for that story
18:47.15atoponces/i l/1 l/
18:59.53{phoenyx}atoponce: where are the pictures of you?
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19:00.35atoponce{phoenyx}: they're in there, although, not many.... :)
19:01.39{phoenyx}I was hoping to see you standing between bruce perens and pete ashdown
19:02.15atoponcefrom picture 29 through 88, i'm behind the camera
19:02.23atoponcei'm only in a few between 1 and 28
19:03.15Zelutatoponce: yeah, I had to search for you pretty..
19:05.44atoponceman, this irssi/bash script combo is really pretty cool
19:05.58atoponceas long as people say my name in the channel, that is
19:08.46Zelutwell I now have a break until 5:00!
19:08.59Zelutfa-reak.  this is why I'm leaving.  such unstable work lately
19:12.45sontekyeah I realized I didn't get many pictures of you
19:12.47sontekyou were always hiding
19:13.02sontekatoponce: Hi!
19:13.04atoponcei wanted good views of the conference
19:13.07atoponcesontek: hello
19:20.44atoponceZelut: what's that network monitoring tool that you use?
19:27.04atoponceyou used your browser to pull it up
19:27.24sontekatoponce: I
19:27.26sontekatoponce: Would
19:27.28sontekatoponce: never
19:27.33sontek:D
19:27.42sontekatoponce: nagios and mrtg
19:27.57sontekatoponce: they are the best network monitoring tools out there
19:28.12sontekatoponce: some people like OpenNMS and JFNMS but I don't think they that great
19:31.40atoponcesontek: thx :)
19:31.55atoponceluckily, it's nothing to remove thome
19:32.00atoponces/ome/em/
19:36.53Zelutatoponce: uhm.. username.xmission.com/utopia ?
19:37.12Zelutthat's the main one I ever really look at..
19:38.15atoponceZelut: no, it's for the local network
19:38.23atoponceyou showed it to me about a year ago
19:40.14Zelutatoponce: not sure.. I don't really have anything in place like that anymore. cacti maybe?
19:43.51atoponcehmmm
19:47.25Zelutcacti seemed pretty good, but I never did get the SNMP figured out for other machines to report
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20:36.47Zelutis it just me or does this tip actually work? http://beuno.com.ar/?p=4
20:37.02ZelutI just tried it and it seems faster, but may be in my head.
20:57.43atoponceZelut: hmmm. seems a bit faster, maybe
20:57.48atoponcebut it could be in my head too
20:57.50atoponcenot sure
20:58.29Zelut..hard to track reliably but it seems faster, and the forum seems to agree.
20:58.38atoponceyeah
20:58.46Zelutinteresting though.. although I have no idea why it'd effect it that way.
20:59.08atoponcei guess apps went from using the hostname to 127.0.0.1. so putting the hostname in the /etc/hosts file allows them to go quicker?
21:09.29ZelutI guess... didn't know apps relied on the local hostname that much
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21:23.16atoponcehttp://news.google.com/nwshp?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&oe=UTF-8&channel=s&tab=wn&ned=us&ncl=1114499693&hl=en
21:28.10{phoenyx}atoponce: cool, but they should link to the pictures and audio too!
21:28.18atoponceyeah
21:28.40atoponceit won't surprise me if we see some serious press get passed around
21:29.11atoponceincluding my post, justins, and the media page
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21:37.32Zelutwow, that really is getting some press.
21:47.02atoponce2418 hits for the xmission site today...
21:47.25atoponcethat puts it to almost 4000 between today and yesterday
21:49.10Zelutnice.
22:12.44Zelutyawn
22:43.57Zelutbeen quiet in here all day. what's up?
23:00.56sontekTraining the new network admin today
23:07.09Zelutsontek: cool.
23:09.41sontekhes pro linux
23:09.47sontekstruggles when we throw him on the windows machines :P
23:10.14sontekYou guys to sllug tonight?
23:10.29sontekHe'll be there, I can introduce ya
23:21.34maquissontek: that sounds like a good guy
23:26.53Zelutdoesn't everyone struggle on a windows machine?
23:28.54herloZelut: I don't really... Just don't like the security problems...
23:29.10maquisi struggle with a number of tasks on windoze machines
23:30.14maquisit usually goes along the lines of "where's the stupid menu-entry/button/checkbox/whatever to change $feature???  why can't it just be in the .$app file?
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23:53.11sontek:O
23:54.03maquis:O)
23:54.23maquis:0)
23:55.59sontekwhat you up to?
23:56.13sontekSllug is tonight but i'm tired already :P
23:56.24sonteki'm becoming an old man!

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