| 00:00.38 | Zelut | that does complicate the dependencies though.. |
| 00:02.05 | maquis | fbsd can do it..... |
| 00:02.13 | maquis | for the apps that it supports |
| 00:03.47 | synic | fbsd has it's own problems. |
| 00:05.00 | Zelut | well I'm outta here |
| 00:05.03 | Zelut | bbiab |
| 00:05.37 | synic | for instance, not being able to install the gnome meta port immediately after using cvsup |
| 00:05.57 | synic | for me, I like having the idea of a "stable" release with compatable software in that release |
| 00:06.41 | synic | once you start getting into installing bleeding-edge software with everything else, you're going to end up with incompatabilities on your own system, and that's when it starts to suck |
| 00:11.12 | herlo | maquis: it depends on the app of course, but you should be able to upgrade it quite easily by adding a repo |
| 00:14.21 | maquis | herlo: sure... but then i spend my whole life searching for repos |
| 00:19.53 | herlo | maquis: what fun! |
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| 00:40.19 | herlo | you all will enjoy this site: http://aeskey.ytmnd.com/ |
| 00:40.27 | herlo | make sure to have your sound on though... |
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| 01:40.47 | atoponce | ok. i need some help drawing a diagram |
| 01:40.52 | atoponce | maybe i'm going about it the wrong way |
| 01:41.21 | atoponce | i want a way to visually show what ssh key has been installed on what server |
| 01:41.25 | atoponce | i have about a dozen servers to represent |
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| 01:42.06 | Yorokobi | atoponce, for one user or multiple? |
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| 01:44.37 | atoponce | multiple. 3 at most |
| 01:44.41 | Yorokobi | I suppose you want to use the hash and not the filename? |
| 01:44.42 | Yorokobi | of the key |
| 01:44.42 | atoponce | well, i don't need to know the key itself, just maybe an arrow saying the user's key on this server has been installed on this server |
| 01:44.42 | atoponce | so, if i have the deva and devb servers |
| 01:44.42 | Yorokobi | or the user name next to the server in the diagram, perhaps? |
| 01:46.07 | atoponce | user1 @ deva is on devx |
| 01:46.07 | atoponce | s/x/b/ |
| 01:46.08 | atoponce | i was thinking of using dia, and drawing boxes to represent the servers, with text of the server name in the box |
| 01:48.11 | atoponce | then, drawing arrows from one server to the next showing a key is installed on that server |
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| 01:48.12 | Sontek_ | Sup |
| 01:48.54 | Yorokobi | That could get messy pretty fast, unless you're going to use a 36x48 or larger area ... |
| 01:48.54 | atoponce | yeah |
| 01:48.55 | atoponce | so that's why i'm wondering if there's a better way |
| 01:49.36 | atoponce | eventually, i just want to print it off |
| 01:50.42 | Yorokobi | atoponce, for an 8x11, it may be easier to have a box for the server with the name inside and the user@host next to it, no lines ... not much of a diagram, per se but cleaner |
| 01:52.20 | atoponce | oh, i see what you're saying |
| 01:52.34 | atoponce | but, if there are a dozen servers, that's a lot of user@hosts in one box |
| 01:53.13 | Yorokobi | true, if you have ~3 users total, it may be easier to spiderweb from a user to the host ... |
| 01:55.42 | atoponce | so, if i spiderweb it, then i should put all the servers in a circle, fairly spaced apart |
| 01:55.58 | Yorokobi | 12 hosts make a good clock pattern :) |
| 01:56.06 | atoponce | good point. :) |
| 01:56.53 | Yorokobi | or vertically stacked on one side with the users evenly spaced on the other with lines connecting them. |
| 01:57.33 | Yorokobi | That type reminds me of matching questions on tests when I was in grade school. :) |
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| 02:04.36 | atoponce | heh |
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| 03:15.05 | opapo | I need to get spamassassin working by 11:30 tomorrow |
| 03:15.15 | opapo | Basic filtering will work |
| 03:16.45 | opapo | I have it installed on a Fedora box but the setup should be the same no matter the box |
| 03:17.09 | opapo | I thought I saw instructions for it on the web, but it seemed too simple. |
| 03:19.24 | Yorokobi | opapo, Postfix? |
| 03:19.33 | opapo | sendmail |
| 03:24.37 | herlo | opapo: yum install spamassassin should do it... |
| 03:24.59 | opapo | Is there anything else I need to do? |
| 03:25.04 | opapo | I've done that already |
| 03:25.13 | herlo | opapo: dunno, check the sendmail book for details |
| 03:25.42 | Yorokobi | You mean the sendmail tome? |
| 03:25.43 | opapo | I don't have the sendmail book |
| 03:26.03 | herlo | opapo: with postfix, you've gotta tell it that spamassassin is being used, you can do the same thing in sendmail |
| 03:26.05 | opapo | do you mean the man page for sendmail? |
| 03:26.33 | opapo | There was a line I was supposed to copy to a config file |
| 03:26.43 | herlo | opapo: no, but the book thing was a joke. There are several good sites on the interweb that can help you with such a setup. I ran across several when setting it up for postfix |
| 03:26.44 | opapo | I did that and restarted spamassassin |
| 03:27.00 | herlo | and sendmail right? |
| 03:27.36 | opapo | I don't remember if i restarted sendmail |
| 03:27.40 | opapo | I will |
| 03:28.00 | opapo | What are the site that helped with the setup |
| 03:28.14 | opapo | I need a site I can trust and follow by 11:30 tomorrow |
| 03:30.03 | opapo | My boss needs to go to his boss and explain why he was getting porn mail |
| 03:30.37 | opapo | It was because my mail program was not being filtered |
| 03:32.08 | Hearts|Laptop | Night all |
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| 03:32.19 | atoponce | how can i find the fingerprint of an ssh key? |
| 03:33.06 | Yorokobi | atoponce, ssh-add -l is one way (if the key is added to the agent) |
| 03:33.44 | atoponce | my agent is gnome, and i'm logged in remotely |
| 03:34.07 | atoponce | so "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." |
| 03:37.31 | Yorokobi | ssh-keygen -l -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 03:37.44 | opapo | herlo: do I need to do anything else with spamassassin? |
| 03:37.50 | atoponce | got it |
| 03:37.53 | Yorokobi | subst your path, of course |
| 03:37.56 | atoponce | Yorokobi: just figured it out. :) |
| 03:37.57 | atoponce | yeah |
| 03:37.57 | atoponce | thx |
| 03:38.07 | atoponce | sweet |
| 03:38.07 | Yorokobi | man ssh to the rescue :0 |
| 03:38.15 | atoponce | yeah. that's what i was looking over |
| 03:38.33 | atoponce | did a search for fingerprint. :) |
| 03:38.33 | Yorokobi | ditto |
| 03:41.52 | atoponce | heh. i got so caught up in figuring that out, that i forgot why :) |
| 03:43.33 | Yorokobi | for your diagram? |
| 03:44.20 | atoponce | no. i need to do some work tonight, and i was having a man in the middle attack error |
| 03:44.27 | atoponce | so i was trying to figure it out |
| 03:44.41 | atoponce | i just ended up cleaning out the known_hosts file. :) |
| 03:45.27 | herlo | opapo: no, spamassassin should just start reporting things as spam. I'd just suggest you spend a little time with google...it can really help you much better than I can since I've not setup sendmail beyond a basic setup.... |
| 03:46.27 | atoponce | and sshfs to the rescue |
| 03:46.28 | atoponce | woot |
| 03:49.36 | opapo | herlo: if spamassassin will automatically start reporting spam I can just work on fine tuning the filtering |
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| 04:25.53 | herlo | http://www.inflection-point.com/jokes/88.htm |
| 05:14.53 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:14.53 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you would rather get more dots per inch than miles per gallon. |
| 05:15.06 | atoponce | more geek jokes |
| 05:15.09 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:15.09 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you bought your wife a net CDROM for her birthday. |
| 05:15.13 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:15.14 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you're grossly offended that anyone would want to make their Linux box work anything like Windows 95. |
| 05:15.17 | herlo | ~lart atoponce |
| 05:15.18 | jbot | beats atoponce to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 05:15.20 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:15.20 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if instead of laughing you say "El-Oh-El!". |
| 05:15.23 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:15.25 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your watch has more buttons than your telephone and more computing power than a 300 Mhz Pentium. |
| 05:15.25 | herlo | haha |
| 05:15.48 | atoponce | i added about 60-75 more jokes |
| 05:15.50 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:15.50 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you hear the word "SCSI" and the first thing you think of is not an adjective. |
| 05:15.53 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:15.54 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your Internet bill is higher than your long distance charges. |
| 05:16.00 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:16.00 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your watch has more buttons than your telephone and more computing power than a 300 Mhz Pentium. |
| 05:16.03 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:16.03 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you seriously consider devoting a web page to your computer. (Not the brand, mind you, but the actual computer itself) |
| 05:16.09 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:16.10 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you can program in more languages than you can speak. |
| 05:16.13 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:16.13 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you postpone your moving date so your computers can set new uptime records. |
| 05:16.18 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:16.19 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you have a modded PC. |
| 05:16.22 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:16.23 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if the blinking 12:00 on someone's VCR draws you like a tractor beam to fix it. |
| 05:16.32 | atoponce | heh |
| 05:16.53 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:16.53 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if when asked if you have more than one hard drive, you answer "In which computer?" |
| 05:16.57 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.09 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you bought a super socket-7 motherboard, not because you really needed it, but because you got it for only 40.00 via an online auction. Now you have a reason to build that extra computer you don't really need. |
| 05:17.09 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.10 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you use a CAD package to design your son's Pine Wood Derby car. |
| 05:17.13 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.14 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you can actually read the error message details when a Windows program has a problem. |
| 05:17.17 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.17 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if someone mentions the Q Continuum, and you know what that means. |
| 05:17.21 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.23 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you set up your own newsgroup. |
| 05:17.25 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.25 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you've figured out how to crash Windows NT on a 128MB system, using only Internet Explorer and Notepad. |
| 05:17.28 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.29 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your watch has more buttons than your telephone and more computing power than a 300 Mhz Pentium. |
| 05:17.32 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.33 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you have actually not met anyone in real life. |
| 05:17.35 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.36 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your friends have a club with the word .com in it. |
| 05:17.39 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.39 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you snicker whenever someone asks how much memory is needed for Windows NT to run smoothly. |
| 05:17.44 | atoponce | !geek |
| 05:17.44 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if everyone else on the Alaskan cruise is on deck peering at the scenery and you are still on a personal tour of the engine room. |
| 05:18.01 | atoponce | well, there you go. more geek jokes |
| 05:18.03 | atoponce | enjoy |
| 05:18.22 | atoponce | maquis: have fun. :) |
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| 14:28.39 | Brizz | ARG Heroes!!!! |
| 14:28.44 | Brizz | that was a good episode |
| 14:28.49 | atoponce | heh |
| 14:28.49 | Brizz | PEter = dummy |
| 14:28.55 | Brizz | should have known what sylar was doing |
| 14:29.29 | Brizz | all they need to do is get Peter by Molly, then he can just find Sylar anywhere he is |
| 14:32.13 | atoponce | you know they're going to face off in the last episode, and sylar is going to get his rear kicked |
| 14:32.22 | Brizz | yah |
| 14:32.28 | Brizz | but I'm guessing he isn't going to die |
| 14:32.49 | atoponce | i dunno |
| 14:33.03 | Brizz | brb |
| 14:33.10 | atoponce | i heard a rumor, don't know how true it is, that every season will have different heroes with different abilities |
| 14:37.45 | maquis | *yawn* |
| 14:43.05 | Brizz | I dunno |
| 14:44.13 | Brizz | I mean even if they keep some of the same characters, they would obviously introduce new heroes each season |
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| 14:55.08 | atoponce | e17 |
| 14:56.15 | maquis | as of right now, the proposals are ion, wmii and evilwm |
| 14:57.03 | Brizz | screen |
| 14:57.13 | maquis | Brizz: yeah... :) |
| 14:57.17 | Brizz | ;) |
| 14:57.27 | maquis | see... i do nest wms after all |
| 14:57.31 | maquis | i run screen inside of evil |
| 14:57.34 | Brizz | lol |
| 15:07.49 | Zelut | I think *true* ninjas don't use any WM at all. |
| 15:08.12 | Zelut | it's all screen and vttys |
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| 15:10.02 | Zelut | I'm tempted to see how long I can go without a GUI but then I ask myself why the hell I have a C2D 2GHz, 2G RAM machine. |
| 15:10.34 | atoponce | you need a gui if you're going to view images or videos |
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| 15:12.22 | Zelut | I could use the mplayer .avi to ascii converter thingy :) |
| 15:12.48 | nurn | morning |
| 15:13.10 | stuporglue | My computer won't give the right time. It says it's 2:12 AM right now. I have tried setting the timezone and using NTP via the GUI. Anyone have an idea of how to fix it? |
| 15:14.19 | maquis | stuporglue: silly question, but might help |
| 15:14.29 | maquis | if you run 'date' from the command-line, does it give the right time? |
| 15:14.29 | nurn | is the timezone in /etc/timezone correct? |
| 15:14.40 | stuporglue | caroline@Elements:/etc$ cat /etc/timezone |
| 15:14.40 | stuporglue | America/Boise |
| 15:14.49 | stuporglue | tz is correct |
| 15:14.54 | stuporglue | caroline@Elements:/etc$ date |
| 15:14.54 | stuporglue | Tue May 15 02:14:21 MDT 2007 |
| 15:14.56 | stuporglue | date, not as much |
| 15:15.04 | maquis | because i know during daylight savings time, a lot of my coworkers had their time off in the gui, but if they ran date it was correct |
| 15:15.14 | maquis | hrm |
| 15:15.16 | stuporglue | the cli and gui are in sync |
| 15:15.30 | maquis | that's GMT, isn't it/ |
| 15:15.37 | maquis | er.. |
| 15:15.47 | maquis | no... gmt would be the other way around, i guess |
| 15:15.53 | nurn | check the bios and make sure the time in there is correct |
| 15:16.15 | Zelut | ntp won't update if you're that far off. It assumes something must be wrong if its trying to change itself by that many hours. |
| 15:16.36 | stuporglue | I see...so maybe if I set it manually once, it'll update correctly next time |
| 15:16.43 | Zelut | should work, yeah. |
| 15:17.26 | atoponce | what i would recommend, is setting a server in /etc/ntp.conf to sync to, and running it in cron like hourly |
| 15:17.33 | maquis | stuporglue: you're someplace about 2 hours east of japan, it looks like |
| 15:17.39 | stuporglue | Sweet |
| 15:18.24 | stuporglue | hrm. Ok, so I set the time, then switched back to "keep synchronized with internet servers", but the synchronize now button is now greyed out |
| 15:21.42 | stuporglue | and now If I try to run sudo, I get "timestamp too far in future"... |
| 15:21.42 | maquis | heh |
| 15:21.42 | Zelut | well now you've gone and broke it. |
| 15:21.42 | stuporglue | oops. |
| 15:21.42 | maquis | maybe your ntp was br0k3d |
| 15:21.52 | stuporglue | root@Elements:/home/caroline# ntpdate |
| 15:21.52 | stuporglue | 15 May 09:20:48 ntpdate[11094]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 15:21.52 | stuporglue | root@Elements:/home/caroline# ntpdate-debian |
| 15:21.52 | stuporglue | 15 May 09:20:56 ntpdate[11099]: no server suitable for synchronization found |
| 15:22.07 | Zelut | stuporglue: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com |
| 15:22.21 | stuporglue | same thing |
| 15:22.33 | Zelut | yeah, you b0rk3d it. |
| 15:22.46 | Zelut | probably due to the fact of not having been to a meeting in years :) |
| 15:22.53 | Brizz | lol |
| 15:22.58 | stuporglue | Probably true :-) |
| 15:23.34 | stuporglue | ok, now the GUI is saying ntp support is not installed...but I know I installed it and had it working before we moved... |
| 15:24.04 | atoponce | stuporglue: here's what i would do, if you're interested |
| 15:24.04 | stuporglue | And it reinstalled and seems to maybe have worked. how weird |
| 15:24.16 | stuporglue | atoponce: interested, yes |
| 15:24.33 | atoponce | stuporglue: don't worry about the gui. make sure the box is unchecked |
| 15:24.45 | atoponce | then, make sure ntp is installed |
| 15:25.11 | atoponce | then, add 'server time.xmission.com', or whatever you want to your /etc/ntp.conf |
| 15:25.11 | Yorokobi | stuporglue, this is for the sudo problem if you run into it after correcting the time/date: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505 |
| 15:25.45 | atoponce | then, run 'crontab -e' and add '@hourly /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate' |
| 15:25.59 | stuporglue | Yorokobi: that fixed the sudo thing |
| 15:26.16 | atoponce | then, to get your clock on par, just run 'sudo ntpdate time.xmission.com' or whatever you put in for your server |
| 15:26.19 | atoponce | you can't go wrong |
| 15:29.26 | Hunding | is it normal in Fiesty if you have a USB device plugged in while booting up to have it lock up your enitre system? The USB device was a bluetooth reciever |
| 15:29.44 | stuporglue | atoponce: I set the GUI to manual, installed ntp, added time.xmission.com to /etc/ntp.conf, added the crontab, and tried to run "ntpdate time.xmission.com" and still get "no server suitable for sync found" |
| 15:30.07 | atoponce | did you add 'time.xmission.com' or 'server time.xmission.com' |
| 15:30.28 | atoponce | in /etc/network/ |
| 15:30.40 | atoponce | /etc/ntp.conf i mean |
| 15:30.47 | atoponce | sorry. bad tab complete |
| 15:31.45 | stuporglue | root@Elements:/home/caroline# cat /etc/ntp.conf | grep xmission |
| 15:31.46 | stuporglue | server time.xmission.com |
| 15:32.36 | atoponce | ok. and what's in your crontab? |
| 15:34.02 | Brizz | haha time.xmission.com works on windows but time.windows.com doesn't |
| 15:34.03 | Brizz | lol |
| 15:34.31 | stuporglue | # m h dom mon dow command |
| 15:34.31 | stuporglue | @hourly /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate |
| 15:35.15 | atoponce | and what's the error you get when you run 'sudo ntpdate time.xmission.com'? |
| 15:35.52 | stuporglue | Where does cron get written to? that line I just pasted is what I see when I run "cron -e", but I don't see that in any of the /etc/cron.{hourly|weekly|daily|monthly} folders |
| 15:36.20 | stuporglue | The error I get is: "14 May 09:35:13 ntpdate[12480]: no server suitable for synchronization found" |
| 15:38.01 | Brizz | ntpq -p |
| 15:38.21 | stuporglue | ntpq: read: Connection refuse |
| 15:38.28 | Brizz | wtf |
| 15:38.37 | Brizz | firewall? |
| 15:38.40 | atoponce | ntpq? |
| 15:38.48 | Brizz | ntp querty |
| 15:38.51 | stuporglue | mmm...not that I know of. I can double check |
| 15:38.52 | Brizz | query* |
| 15:39.45 | Brizz | try this |
| 15:39.54 | Brizz | sudo ntpdate -d time.xmission.com |
| 15:40.05 | stuporglue | Well, the router had a "firewall" checkbox, but it didn't matter either way -- same results |
| 15:40.25 | stuporglue | want the output here? |
| 15:40.38 | Brizz | is it long? o_O |
| 15:40.40 | stuporglue | ~20 lines |
| 15:40.48 | Brizz | hmm |
| 15:40.52 | Brizz | try |
| 15:40.56 | atoponce | my concern is that it's not finding the time.xmission.com server |
| 15:41.00 | Brizz | sudo ntpdate -u time.xmission.com |
| 15:41.20 | stuporglue | time.xmission.com in a browser gives what seems to be the right results |
| 15:41.33 | stuporglue | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.33 | stuporglue | 15 May 09:41:10 ntpdate[12867]: step time server 198.60.22.240 offset 38.182549 sec |
| 15:41.56 | Brizz | yah |
| 15:42.02 | Brizz | it's a problem with the port it's trying to use |
| 15:42.14 | Brizz | just have your cron run ntpdate -u and you won't have any problems |
| 15:43.33 | Brizz | you can also try this really quick |
| 15:43.38 | stuporglue | Brizz: as in, just let it sit, and when cron gets around to it, it'll correct itself? |
| 15:43.41 | Brizz | ntpdate -b -t 4 -p 4 |
| 15:43.50 | stuporglue | no servers can be used, exiting |
| 15:44.04 | Brizz | yah it's definitely the port problem |
| 15:44.34 | stuporglue | Do I probably have a setting wrong somewhere, or is it more likely a blocked port somewhere? |
| 15:44.47 | Brizz | well it's more likely a blocked port somewhere |
| 15:45.39 | Brizz | anyway that ntpdate should have corrected your time for you, and if you fix your cron it should fix your time every hour |
| 15:45.57 | stuporglue | interesting...I'll have to ask iProvo about that as I think my router is behaving. |
| 15:46.00 | stuporglue | Thanks for the help |
| 15:46.08 | Brizz | you're welcome :) |
| 15:46.29 | stuporglue | class time. See everyone later |
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| 15:51.06 | atoponce | cron rocks |
| 15:51.19 | atoponce | that's all i have to say about that |
| 16:14.54 | Zelut | atoponce: ping |
| 16:18.03 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
| 16:19.05 | Zelut | atoponce: where did you get your business cards printed? I found mine finally. |
| 16:19.37 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 16:21.20 | atoponce | overnightprints.com, i think |
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| 16:58.26 | Zelut | atoponce: do they come overnite or is it just a good price? |
| 17:21.00 | atoponce | it's just a good price. it took about a week, i think, before i got them |
| 17:22.18 | Zelut | svg is not a supported upload format.. what did you convert it to? |
| 17:38.50 | atoponce | eps, i think |
| 17:55.42 | Zelut | ordered. finally. |
| 18:09.37 | atoponce | how long have you been an ubuntu member? |
| 18:14.50 | Zelut | same time the team was approved.. I think mar 06 |
| 18:16.58 | Brizz | the team has gotten big since I first joined |
| 18:18.05 | Zelut | it's gotten huge since I started ;) |
| 18:20.18 | herlo | Zelut: a team of one! |
| 18:21.27 | atoponce | heh |
| 18:21.32 | atoponce | i'm team member #2, i think |
| 18:22.59 | Zelut | atoponce: catherine is proudly #2, but you're active #2 :) |
| 18:25.49 | atoponce | ok. i'll be #3 then |
| 18:26.13 | atoponce | i think i beat your wife to the channel, though |
| 18:26.53 | atoponce | not sure about the mailing list |
| 18:28.05 | Zelut | yeah, you beat her to the channel but she was #2 on LP and the wiki as I remember.. |
| 18:28.30 | Zelut | atoponce: as far as I'm concerned you're #2, but if she's around we'll pretend :) |
| 18:28.56 | Zelut | question of the day just posted to my blog. |
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| 18:35.04 | Zelut | good 'ol jim: hello |
| 18:36.42 | goodolejim_ | Hi |
| 18:37.13 | goodolejim_ | just seeing whats going on |
| 18:38.00 | Zelut | not a lot it seems.. welcome. |
| 18:39.07 | goodolejim_ | at this point I don't know enough to ask question so will soak up knowledge as i can |
| 18:40.30 | [phoenyx] | goodolejim_: have you installed ubuntu? |
| 18:40.45 | baens | Zelut: have you ever tried making your terminal something like this: http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/images/blog/flux2.png |
| 18:41.07 | goodolejim_ | I'm using it now on this box |
| 18:41.41 | goodolejim_ | no, what would this do? |
| 18:41.49 | Zelut | goodolejim_: feel free to lurk and just ask questions when you're comfortable.. love to have new faces in here. |
| 18:42.57 | goodolejim_ | I'v given about ten cds of Ubuntu to people and hav three besides myself using it |
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| 18:45.39 | [phoenyx] | goodolejim_: do you know how to install/uninstall software via synaptic? simple tasks with the command line (mv, cp, cd)? |
| 18:48.59 | goodolejim_ | I haven't yet tried command in ubuntu altho I used to use CPM which only had command line, this was before dos |
| 18:50.43 | goodolejim_ | my wife is calling me to help her, got to go |
| 18:50.55 | Zelut | goodolejim_: take it easy |
| 18:52.08 | Zelut | why isn't there a net-installer for Ubuntu? I would love to be able to mount the .iso and install over NFS instead of burning a CD right now. |
| 19:01.34 | Hunding | does anyone know if there is something like this for ubuntu: http://lifehacker.com/software/top/download-of-the-day--geektool-185802.php |
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| 19:02.52 | Yorokobi | Hunding, Fluxbox allows something like that. See baens' URL post ^^^ |
| 19:03.30 | baens | theres a way to do it in gnome too... |
| 19:03.37 | baens | trying to find the tutorial |
| 19:03.52 | Hunding | what does "tail -f" do? |
| 19:04.10 | Yorokobi | watch the end of a file (as it is appended to). |
| 19:04.10 | [phoenyx] | awesomeness |
| 19:04.16 | Yorokobi | Great for watching logs. |
| 19:04.19 | [phoenyx] | e.g. a logfile |
| 19:05.28 | baens | has anyone tried conky? |
| 19:06.12 | atoponce | !geek |
| 19:06.13 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you check your e-mail before you brush your teeth in the morning. |
| 19:06.30 | atoponce | !geek |
| 19:06.31 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you postpone your moving date so your computers can set new uptime records. |
| 19:06.36 | atoponce | !geek |
| 19:06.37 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if to you, the word "scuzzy" is sexy. |
| 19:06.45 | atoponce | !geek |
| 19:06.46 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you almost get in a fight when a small child says there is no internet. |
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| 19:06.56 | atoponce | !geek |
| 19:06.57 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if the the bumber sticker on your car says "My other computer is a laptop." |
| 19:07.09 | Yorokobi | s/bumber/bumper/ |
| 19:07.15 | atoponce | heh |
| 19:07.17 | atoponce | the the too |
| 19:07.41 | Brizz | herlo, ping |
| 19:08.31 | atoponce | !geek |
| 19:08.31 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your wife said that either she or the computer had to go, and you still don't miss her. |
| 19:09.33 | Zelut | !geek |
| 19:09.33 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you look at a movie trailer and think, "I have that typeface." |
| 19:09.36 | baens | !nerd |
| 19:09.40 | Zelut | !geek |
| 19:09.41 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you get angry when someone says they own a Pentium IV processor. |
| 19:09.45 | baens | ahh how rude! |
| 19:09.49 | Zelut | !geek |
| 19:09.50 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you set up your old computer next to your new one 2 months ago so that you could transfer files and you've been using them "both" since. |
| 19:09.57 | Zelut | ~lart baens |
| 19:09.57 | jbot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at baens |
| 19:10.03 | Zelut | take that! |
| 19:10.11 | baens | nerd > geek :P |
| 19:11.27 | Zelut | !geek | !nerd > baens |
| 19:11.28 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you spend more time chatting on-line in one day then you do in a week's worth of actual conversation with people face-to-face. |
| 19:11.29 | Zelut | there |
| 19:11.46 | Zelut | !weather 97219 |
| 19:11.48 | UtahBot | Portland, Oregon; Updated: 12:01 (May 15, 2007); Conditions: Scattered Clouds; Temperature: 77.7°F (25.4°C); High/Low: 79/46°F (26/7°C); Humidity: 43%; Dew Point: 53°F (12°C); UV: 8/16; Wind: West at 1.0 MPH (1.6 KPH) |
| 19:12.13 | baens | !weather 84088 |
| 19:12.15 | UtahBot | West Jordan, Utah; Updated: 13:09 (May 15, 2007); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 76.3°F (24.6°C); High/Low: 77/52°F (25/11°C); Humidity: 22%; Dew Point: 35°F (2°C); UV: 12/16; Wind: ESE |
| 19:14.44 | [phoenyx] | baens: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=9935030990046738815 |
| 19:15.19 | baens | [phoenyx]: hmm...cant view it here at work :( |
| 19:17.27 | baens | gota love links |
| 19:25.59 | baens | 100% nerd...hmm |
| 19:29.55 | maquis | !weather 98275 |
| 19:29.57 | UtahBot | Mukilteo, Washington; Updated: 11:53 (May 15, 2007); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 71°F (22°C); High/Low: 78/44°F (25/6°C); Humidity: 36%; Dew Point: 43°F (6°C); UV: 9/16; Wind: NNW at 4 MPH (6 KPH) |
| 19:32.18 | [phoenyx] | !weather 04101 |
| 19:32.20 | UtahBot | Portland, Maine; Updated: 14:51 (May 15, 2007); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 64°F (18°C); High/Low: 70/55°F (21/12°C); Humidity: 63%; Dew Point: 51°F (11°C); UV: 8/16; Wind: SSW at 8 MPH (13 KPH) |
| 19:32.41 | Zelut | 52 % Nerd, 47% Geek, 30% Dork |
| 19:33.00 | [phoenyx] | !weather 97201 |
| 19:33.02 | UtahBot | Portland, Oregon; Updated: 12:32 (May 15, 2007); Conditions: Scattered Clouds; Temperature: 79.9°F (26.6°C); High/Low: 79/47°F (26/8°C); Humidity: 29%; Dew Point: 45°F (7°C); UV: 8/16; Wind: North |
| 19:33.13 | Zelut | although I would say I'm more geek than nerd |
| 19:34.56 | baens | im probably a loser but, i am a nerd and proud of it |
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| 19:37.05 | baens | has anyone ever been able to sync evolution and a palm pilot? |
| 19:46.20 | Zelut | yeah |
| 19:47.12 | Zelut | don't remember how at the moment but it wasn't terribly hard with a treo running palm and edgy/dapper |
| 19:47.53 | baens | ya i know you can just do the preferences -> palm os stuff, but for some reason i can't get the tasks to sync up, it crashes the palm pilot |
| 19:51.50 | Brizz | hahahahahaha |
| 19:51.51 | Brizz | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/116944015/article.pl |
| 19:52.10 | Brizz | Besides basic search features, it removes external ads on the site and allows users to see thumbnail pictures on ALL search items, even those sellers didn't pay for. |
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| 19:59.23 | [phoenyx] | I'm going to Portland (oregon) this week for a conference. Any recommendations of what to see/do? |
| 20:09.48 | maquis | [phoenyx]: my cousin lives there, and she saw linus torvalds in his car driving down the street |
| 20:18.11 | Hunding | has anyone got conky running in 7.04? |
| 20:20.15 | baens | Hunding: not in 7.04, why? |
| 20:20.27 | baens | (thou I haven't tried it in 7.04 either..) |
| 20:22.07 | Hunding | just wondering if there was anything different as I was not able to find a howto specifically for Feisty |
| 20:23.14 | baens | dont think there is one yet, but do you need a howto thats sorta general? theres a couple out there and they *should* work |
| 20:25.32 | baens | this is for edgy but should work: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/conky-a-light-weight-system-monitor-for-ubuntu-linux-systems.html |
| 20:26.09 | Hunding | yup...that is the one I was looking at :) |
| 20:26.56 | maquis | is conky ubuntu-specific, then? |
| 20:27.19 | Hunding | no, not at all |
| 20:27.43 | baens | I used it on gentoo for the longest time :) haven't got it setup on my ubuntu quite yet |
| 20:28.43 | baens | Hunding: you may have noticed this but here are some example conkrc files: http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html |
| 20:29.22 | Hunding | thanks baens' |
| 20:29.57 | baens | and if you are really brave, I can give you the links to all the variables and stuff in conky so you can really customize it, but it gets scary hehe |
| 20:32.46 | maquis | interesting... |
| 20:32.50 | maquis | so it's kinda like gkrellm |
| 20:33.39 | baens | basically |
| 20:33.59 | baens | a little bit more powerful but the same idea |
| 20:34.34 | maquis | cool |
| 20:34.39 | baens | theres a thread on the ubuntu forums of people posting their rcs and screenshots: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865 |
| 20:36.19 | maquis | i have to be a member in order to view the screenshots? |
| 20:36.29 | Yorokobi | looks that way :/ |
| 20:36.36 | baens | yup |
| 20:37.38 | maquis | ooh... i do have an account... |
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| 20:47.26 | maquis | ~lart redbeard2 |
| 20:47.26 | jbot | burns redbeard2 to a crisp with a laser |
| 20:47.48 | redbeard2 | ~qwerty maquis |
| 20:50.27 | atoponce | ~dvorak maquis |
| 21:02.39 | [phoenyx] | ~D.L. atoponce |
| 21:02.41 | jbot | ACTION reaches through atoponce's skull and squeezes atoponce's brain |
| 21:03.16 | atoponce | heh |
| 21:03.17 | atoponce | nice |
| 21:03.25 | atoponce | that's obviously new |
| 21:06.54 | herlo | [phoenyx]: that was awesome last night |
| 21:07.49 | [phoenyx] | yeah, I wish that nicki would've taken a bullet for D.L. instead :) |
| 21:08.46 | atoponce | it better be released on dvd *really* quickly |
| 21:09.10 | herlo | atoponce: why? I have it if you want to watch last nights ep |
| 21:10.19 | [phoenyx] | there's a whole lot of bonus material they can include, too. There are tons of deleted scenes, plus cast commentary, the graphic novels, etc. |
| 21:10.38 | atoponce | i've seen them all, i just want to watch them again |
| 21:10.59 | atoponce | have a heroes party, and watch all episodes in one sitting |
| 21:11.30 | Yorokobi | and follow it up with a LOTR (extended edition) party |
| 21:11.39 | atoponce | heh. done that |
| 21:11.47 | atoponce | and star wars (all 6 in one sitting) |
| 21:12.05 | Yorokobi | :) |
| 21:12.08 | atoponce | :) |
| 21:12.20 | atoponce | start at 6am sat, and you'll finish about 7-8pm |
| 21:12.59 | herlo | atoponce: I'd love to do that, probably have to be over two days though... |
| 21:13.19 | atoponce | nah. there were only what? 14 episodes? |
| 21:13.29 | herlo | 21 so far |
| 21:13.35 | atoponce | taking out commercials, they're 20min a piece |
| 21:13.39 | herlo | 42mins |
| 21:13.45 | herlo | I don't watch commercials |
| 21:13.45 | atoponce | er, yeah |
| 21:13.47 | atoponce | 42 |
| 21:14.05 | atoponce | that's 14.7 hours |
| 21:14.08 | herlo | that's like almost 19hours if you watched it straight |
| 21:14.12 | atoponce | easily done in one sat |
| 21:14.20 | herlo | wow, that's a lot of time |
| 21:14.34 | herlo | I'd have to get up at least for an hour to eat about every 4 |
| 21:14.44 | Brizz | herlo, what did you think of Heroes last night? |
| 21:14.48 | herlo | so add 3 more hours, and man that's crazy |
| 21:15.01 | herlo | Brizz: I loved it |
| 21:15.04 | Brizz | it was so good |
| 21:15.19 | herlo | Brizz: explained more about Jessica and Nikki |
| 21:15.19 | atoponce | treats, snacks, pop, etc should be immediately available, so you don't have to get up except change the disk |
| 21:15.19 | Brizz | yah |
| 21:15.22 | Brizz | not enough IMO but to some degree |
| 21:15.29 | herlo | atoponce: except that those don't fill you up, just make you fat |
| 21:15.29 | Brizz | like Jessica is not entirely selfish |
| 21:16.07 | Brizz | I think she hasn't let Niki out for all this time because she needed to protect Micah and that's what she is good at |
| 21:16.16 | atoponce | the warcraft episode was the best |
| 21:16.18 | Brizz | she let Niki out when she needed to protect DL |
| 21:18.48 | Brizz | which, ironically, got him shot |
| 21:19.29 | Brizz | but now Linderman is dead |
| 21:19.37 | atoponce | http://lofish1972.imeem.com/video/t2E1aadd/south_park_warcraft/ |
| 21:19.43 | atoponce | if you have flash installed |
| 21:19.54 | [phoenyx] | I was surprised they killed off linderman and thompson |
| 21:20.09 | Brizz | yah it was kind of weird |
| 21:20.20 | Brizz | but at the same time they seemed to be the "corrupt" part of primatech |
| 21:20.35 | Brizz | Hiro's dad wasn't working with them anymore |
| 21:20.53 | herlo | Brizz: Linderman might be dead. I wonder about that still |
| 21:21.00 | Brizz | it also explains why they aren't around in 5 Years Later |
| 21:21.06 | Brizz | why? |
| 21:21.18 | herlo | because his powers were to heal things |
| 21:21.27 | Yorokobi | but not himself |
| 21:21.34 | Brizz | right, but Sylar's plotline tells us that the brain is the key to their powers, and his brain was all sorts of scrambled |
| 21:21.57 | herlo | and if Peter was close enough to him to absorb his power, its possible he could heal him |
| 21:22.25 | herlo | true that his brain was basically replaced with DL's hand |
| 21:22.39 | Yorokobi | Realistically, Linderman's skull should have cut DL's wrist ... |
| 21:22.56 | herlo | Yorokobi: the show isn't realistic to start with... |
| 21:23.00 | Brizz | yah I'm not sure of the logistics of that lol |
| 21:23.04 | [phoenyx] | DL can phase selectively though |
| 21:23.10 | herlo | exactly |
| 21:23.12 | Yorokobi | Not Real? What? |
| 21:23.25 | [phoenyx] | he can reach through a door and turn the doorknob on the other side |
| 21:23.33 | herlo | haha, if you think that heroes can really fly or disappear in this world, you need to come back to reality |
| 21:23.47 | Brizz | my jaw like dropped when claire's dad dropped thompson |
| 21:23.55 | herlo | that was cool! |
| 21:23.59 | Brizz | yah it was so awesome |
| 21:24.20 | herlo | I still wonder how the little girl will fit into it all now... I don't think he has the heart to kill her |
| 21:24.21 | Brizz | "what am I thinking now parkman?" "The last thought you'll ever have" *boom* *boom* *boom* |
| 21:24.33 | Brizz | herlo, if PEter gets close to her, he can find Sylar |
| 21:24.52 | Brizz | and if he realizes he has Hiro's power, he can teleport to him :) |
| 21:24.58 | herlo | Brizz: true, but its only a matter of time before Parkman wakes up |
| 21:25.06 | herlo | and then Suresh will have to make a choice |
| 21:25.08 | Brizz | yah but Parkman didn't want to kill her |
| 21:26.45 | herlo | True, but like I said, I don't think Claire's dad can do it |
| 21:26.56 | Brizz | well he won't |
| 21:27.08 | Brizz | because Mohinder is running with her in the scenes |
| 21:27.22 | Brizz | it also looks like Parkman dies |
| 21:27.26 | herlo | Brizz: I didn't see the preview |
| 21:27.31 | Brizz | ah |
| 21:27.34 | herlo | for next week |
| 21:27.58 | herlo | one thing you don't get when you don't watch them on tv |
| 21:28.05 | Brizz | oh good point |
| 21:28.14 | Brizz | they don't show them on nbc.com either |
| 21:29.49 | herlo | they should. Did you see the thing that CBS is going to do on CBS.com? |
| 21:29.57 | Brizz | no |
| 21:30.01 | Brizz | what is it/ |
| 21:30.05 | herlo | they're gonna start distributing episodes online |
| 21:30.08 | herlo | of their shows |
| 21:30.14 | Brizz | for download? |
| 21:30.15 | herlo | let me find the article |
| 21:30.25 | herlo | I don't know for sure, hold on |
| 21:31.21 | herlo | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/14/0627218 |
| 21:32.58 | Brizz | hmm |
| 21:33.13 | Brizz | not for download apparently |
| 21:33.14 | Brizz | but maybe |
| 21:43.08 | Brizz | hah |
| 21:43.11 | Brizz | I just realized |
| 21:43.18 | Brizz | the "Walker System" is Molly Walker |
| 21:45.46 | Zelut | you've been able to watch the episodes online for some time.. just not take them anywhere. |
| 21:45.52 | Brizz | yah |
| 21:45.53 | Brizz | well |
| 21:45.54 | Zelut | is there a streaming video capture app? |
| 21:45.59 | Brizz | you can buy them on iTunes |
| 21:46.13 | Zelut | buy them on itunes. pfft! |
| 21:46.28 | Brizz | I didn't say that was a good option |
| 21:46.30 | Zelut | I already pay for TV. I don't want to pay for it again. |
| 21:47.06 | Brizz | same |
| 21:47.26 | herlo | Zelut: but if you don't have a tv, paying for them on iTunes is an option |
| 21:47.55 | herlo | what if you want to buy them on DVD after the season is realeased? Is that a waste too? |
| 21:49.03 | Brizz | I'll get the season on DVD |
| 21:49.03 | Brizz | \it's a great show |
| 21:49.04 | Brizz | and I want to see all the stuff I didn't catch earlier |
| 22:17.37 | herlo | A very entertaining site if you are interested in buying a new PC: http://www.ninjapirate.com/newcomputer.html |
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| 22:39.31 | Hunding | and when it is using the wireless..it seems to prefer to upload using the wired connection |
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| 23:02.58 | Hunding | baens: would you happen to have that link to customize conky? I have changed a lot of the script I found...but there are a few other things I want to add. |
