IRC log for #ubuntu-utah on 20070718

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02:00.00herloI'm looking for a FF extension that will stop all tabs at once
02:25.54Zelutatoponce: ping
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02:37.50opapo_how do you get a cd out of a mac if it has no power?
02:39.10tonedevfuse your fingernail to open the case flap in front of the drive, then use a paperclip as with most drives
02:39.23opapo_mechanical pencil worked
02:41.37dukefuzzynuggetPhillips screwdriver?
02:41.45dukefuzzynuggetHammer?
02:42.15opapo_dukefuzzynugget: I'm sure I it would work....
02:42.17opapo_once
02:53.49atoponceZelut: pong
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02:56.27Zelutatoponce: any good tutorials on setting up an openfire server for jabber?
02:56.40Zelutatoponce: your last few posts convinced me to try running my own.
03:01.58opapo_is there a way to find out what type of memory you have in a machine without opening it up?
03:02.29opapo_I want to know if it needs pc3200 or not
03:03.00Zelutopapo_: try 'sudo lshw' and look thru the output
03:04.11opapo_Zelut: thanks That should do it
03:04.39Zelutif it isn't in there I don't know where it would be.
03:10.19opapo_it's there, thanks
03:12.35Zelutheartsbane: I've been thinking about your perpetual question of 'does it save you time' on my apps.
03:12.40atoponceZelut: i would stay away from openfire, and do ejabberd
03:12.43Zelutheartsbane: the vimperator definitely saves me time.
03:12.46atoponcetrust me. i've been down that road
03:13.01Zelutatoponce: yeah? I was just looking through some openfire tutorials.. walk away?
03:13.10atoponcewalk away
03:13.23atoponceopenfire/wildfire relies on java runtime
03:13.26atoponceit's a resource hog
03:13.28atoponceit's solw
03:13.32Zelutahh
03:13.39atoponceit doesn't update rosters very well
03:13.41atoponceit's buggy
03:14.02atoponceneedless to say, i'm not a fan
03:14.33atoponceejabberd is light, easy to setup, featuerful, solid and built around a large community
03:15.06atoponceit's the #1 jabber server, in terms of deployment and market share
03:16.00Zelutis it in the repos?
03:16.09atoponceyeah
03:16.19atoponcei believe you set it up once before, no?
03:18.35ZelutI might have.. it's been a while
03:19.07Zelutnow, question, if I migrate to my own server I will lose my gmail contacts, yes?
03:19.36atoponcethere is an app to migrate them. i've never used it, but i hear it works pretty well
03:20.07atoponcehttp://jru.jabberstudio.org/
03:20.36atoponcebut yeah, you'll have to send out re-authorizations to all your contacts
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03:21.26Zelut..now that I think about it, running my own server gives me full function on the server but bitlbee still limits me on the client end doesn't it.
03:21.54atoponcehow does bitlbee limit you?
03:22.12atoponcethe #1 reason to host your own, is so you can control your own logs, and such
03:22.31atoponcewho knows if gmail is keeping a tally on you... :)
03:22.37Zelutyeah
03:23.02Zelutwell if bitlbee doesn't support priority, etc..
03:23.07atoponceyeah
03:23.20atoponceyou could always do what i do...
03:23.51atoponcerun bitlbee in screen 24/7 in case you're not logged into a gui client, and use a gui client that gives you more control
03:24.22atoponcei've been thinking of giving bitlbee a try again, but on herc to get the latest release
03:24.35atoponcei hear they rewrote the jabber plugin
03:26.03Zelutyeah they did and I haven't rebuilt from cvs since they have..
03:26.17Zelutthey added jabber chatroom function last I read at least
03:26.36Zelutany major changes I need to make to config after installing ejabberd?
03:26.52atoponceso let's see. if i install bitlbee on herc, then i should be able to connect to it in irssi from my server
03:26.59atoponceno. i don't think so
03:27.53Zeluthmm.. oddly I can't access my router web interface to open the ejabberd port so I can connect.
03:28.55Zelutis it 5222 or 5223?
03:29.11atoponcedepends on if you want to support ssl or tls
03:29.15atoponcei have them both opened
03:31.49ZelutI need to write this all down and blog it so I can remember
03:31.49atoponceok. so bitlbee is installed. how do i restart the daemon?
03:31.53Zelutok, ejabberd is installed and running.
03:32.20Zelutatoponce: bitblee is an xinetd service so restart /etc/init.d/xinetd
03:32.46atoponcei don't have xinetd installed. install it?
03:33.03Zelutpretty sure it was an xinetd service.. mine is
03:33.09Zelutweird if that isn't a dependency
03:33.18herlobitlbee is xinetd/inetd
03:33.32atoponcetcpd was a dependancy...
03:33.41herloatoponce: if you are using Ubuntu, its inetd
03:34.53atoponceherlo: i am runnig the bitlbee daemon on another box on the local network. can i get access to it from elsewhere on the intranet?
03:35.00atoponceif so, how do i set it up?
03:35.35Zelutatoponce: mine is running on the same box as irssi so I /connect localhost in irssi.  You could try /connect herc ..?
03:35.39herloatoponce: yes
03:35.57herlocheck out the /etc/[x]inetd.d/bitlbee file
03:35.59atoponceZelut: yeah. that's what i want to do is connect to herc rather than localhost
03:36.31atoponceherlo: the bitlbee.conf is in /etc/bitlbee/
03:36.43herloatoponce: its an xinetd requirement
03:36.51herlounless you don't have one there
03:37.01herlothen they've changed how its used...
03:37.07herloor you can do either.
03:37.09atoponcei do have xinetd
03:37.18herlodo you have a bitlbee file in that directory?
03:37.26atoponceno
03:37.29atoponcejust /etc/bitlbee
03:37.39herlocan you pastebin its contents for me?
03:37.42atoponcesure
03:38.33atoponcehttp://pastebin.ca/624233
03:38.52Zelutatoponce: I believe the service is running, how do I create and use a new account on my ejabberd?
03:39.20herloatoponce: you have it set to run in INETD mode, which measn you need to have a bitlbee config in there...
03:39.41atoponceherlo: there is no /etc/inetd/ dir
03:40.00herlois there an /etc/xinetd.d ? or /etc/inetd.d ?
03:40.04herlodirectory
03:41.15atoponce/etc/xinetd.d/
03:41.22herloook in there
03:41.29atoponceZelut: check the config file. you setup the initial admin there
03:41.36atoponceherlo: there is no bitlbee conf in there
03:42.00atoponcechargen daytime discard echo and time are the only files
03:42.09herloatoponce: I know, but you probably need one
03:42.12herlohold on
03:43.06herloatoponce: this is what mine looks like.
03:43.08herlohttp://pastebin.ca/624238
03:43.57atoponcebut you're running it locally, right? i can connect locally, and i don't have anything like that
03:44.05atoponceso is it needed?
03:44.18atoponcethe /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf should be adequate, i would think
03:44.54herloyeah, probably, but your config says to use inetd
03:45.13herlochange the runmode to daemon
03:45.16atoponceeverything in that config that is uncommented, i uncommented myself
03:45.23atoponceit is initially all commented out
03:45.24atoponceok
03:45.31herloahh
03:45.41herlothis is all new stuff, sounds like I need to upgrade
03:45.56atoponcethen to relaunch the daemon?
03:46.39atoponce/etc/init.d/inetd restart?
03:47.28herlono
03:47.35herlo/etc/init.d/bitlbee restart
03:47.46herlothere should be a sysv service if that's the case
03:48.27atoponce21:48 [192] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server 192.168.1.4 port 6667 [Connection refused]
03:48.41herloseems interesting.
03:48.44atoponceno /etc/init.d/bitlbee... doesn't exist
03:48.48Zelutif the code is here http://code.bitlbee.org/bitlbee/ and I have to use bzr, how do I pull it in?
03:49.02herloso can you list the files in the package? and pastebin it?
03:49.03ZelutI've now used cvs and svn but not familiar with bzr.
03:49.26atoponceZelut: i've never used bzr
03:49.51atoponceherlo: list the files in the package? wouldn't that just be at packages.ubuntu.com?
03:50.29herloI don't know, but rpm can do it on the command line
03:50.31herlorpm -ql
03:50.40herlodpkg probably has something similar
03:50.51herloor you can give me the link
03:51.38Zelutdpkg -L : list files installed from package
03:52.09herlo:)
03:52.29atoponceherlo: http://pastebin.ca/624243
03:53.14herlok
03:55.54herloatoponce: looks like you might just want to use xinetd.  I am really wondering what happened to the .deb pkgs
03:56.01herlohttp://en.linuxreviews.org/Bitlbee#How_to_run_your_own_server
03:56.03herlomight help
04:00.03Zelutatoponce: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bitlbee
04:00.17ZelutI made that. there is a fix that needs for the current version.
04:02.07atoponcei keep getting connection refused when trying to connect to the ip running the service
04:02.49Zelutatoponce: is the service running properly? did you check out the wiki?
04:02.52Zeluti had a similar problem
04:03.50atoponce22:03 [192] -!- Error: Syntax error in configuration file `/etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf'.
04:03.53atoponceprogress!
04:06.36atoponceim in
04:06.38atoponcesweet
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04:09.43herloatoponce: I lost the conversation, where were we
04:09.56atoponce#ubuntu-utah
04:10.01herloatoponce: duh
04:10.05atoponceyou asked
04:10.10atoponcei got it running
04:10.15herloatoponce: how?
04:10.36atoponcei just commented everything out, created the /etc/xinetd.d/bitlbee file, restarted xinetd and connected
04:10.42herloahh
04:10.49atoponcecommented everything out in /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf
04:10.50herloI wonder if that config file is new
04:10.58herloyeah
04:11.00atoponcenot sure
04:11.18atoponcebut feisty doesn't create the /etc/xinetd.d/bitlbee file as it sholud
04:11.23atoponcei guess it's listed as a bug
04:11.28herloseems odd
04:11.47atoponcenow, to see if i can change the priority in jabber...
04:12.14herloatoponce: glad to hear it works...
04:21.56sontekWe might have the Mono summit coming to Utah =)
04:24.13herlosontek: nice
04:26.09sontekDiscussions are going on now, the 2 biggest issues from last one was Boston was expensive for hotels, and the Hotel we did the conference in didn't work very well
04:26.19sontekso I mentioned Provo as being cheap and having OSTC =p
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04:28.32herlosontek: yeah, they might go for that, or they could do it at any of the hotels downtown SLC too.
04:28.46herloI'd honestly prefer to do it there, but I couldn't afford it...
04:29.42atoponcethere's no way to restore a dir removed with 'rm -rf' is there?
04:31.06Zelutnot any tool I know of.
04:31.17Zelutthat data is still technically there, but I don't know how to get it..
04:31.28atoponceoh well
04:35.19sontekatoponce: you can recover it with debugfs and lsdel
04:35.29sontekatoponce: I'm trying to find the post I read when I needed to do it
04:35.33sontekI don't remember the exact steps
04:35.34atoponcemeh
04:35.37atoponceit's no biggie
04:35.44herlo~lart sontek
04:35.44jbotfollow's sontek with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION
04:35.56atoponceit was just logs, which i can do without
04:36.02sontekhttp://e2undel.sourceforge.net/recovery-howto.html  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-569462-highlight-recover+data.html
04:36.09sontekthose fixed me right up
04:37.23atoponcewon't work with ext3...
04:38.39sontekI used it with ext3
04:44.32Hearts|LaptopDon't harsh his mellow like that sontek
04:45.25atoponceHearts|Laptop: hey! you're walking a fine line my friend...
04:45.41atoponce~harsh Hearts|Laptop
04:45.56sontekHis mellow is far from harshed!
04:45.59Zelut~pee sontek
04:46.00jbotACTION pee's upon sontek like a waterfall.
04:46.05sontek~simpsons Zelut
04:46.05jbotACTION sends Zelut chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!"
04:46.14Hearts|Laptop~pee sontek
04:46.15jbotACTION pee's upon sontek like a waterfall.
04:46.30atoponcejbot: harsh $hearts is <action> harshes the mellow of $hearts
04:46.31jbotatoponce: okay
04:46.31sontekdamn you both!
04:46.36atoponce~harsh Hearts|Laptop
04:46.37jbotACTION harshes the mellow of Hearts|Laptop
04:46.48Hearts|Laptop:(
04:46.59Hearts|Laptop~Heartsbane
04:46.59jboti guess heartsbane is a whiner and a menace
04:47.02atoponcetime for bet i think
04:47.04Hearts|Laptop;(
04:47.32Hearts|Laptophow big of a bet?
04:47.41atoponcequeen
04:47.49ZelutI think he means bed
04:48.05Hearts|Laptopcause I don't think the 't' is anywhere near the 'd'
04:48.08sontek5 on hearts
04:48.14atoponced h t
04:48.22atoponcethere's only one letter inbetween
04:48.24Zelutdht
04:48.36sontekqwerty!
04:48.38sontekn00bs
04:48.39Zelutaoeuidhtns!
04:48.50atoponce~aoeuidhtns-!
04:48.51jbotfrom memory, aoeuidhtns-! is the salute Dvorak typists give each other before engaging in conversation.  In person, the two wishing to verbally converse take each other by the left hand in a common handshake, raising the right arm giving the Vulcan sign and saying aloud in unison "A weed hittin' us!".  In text conversation, the characters 'aoeuidhtns-!' must be ...
04:48.54Hearts|Laptopqwerty forever
04:49.04atoponcemeh
04:49.19atoponceg'night
04:49.25Hearts|Laptopk
04:49.33Hearts|Laptopremember B-E-D
04:50.25sontekalso known has hitting the hay!
04:50.38Hearts|Laptopwhat did the hay ever do to you
04:50.48Hearts|LaptopECO TERRORIST
04:51.12Hearts|Laptop~harsh sontek
04:51.13jbotACTION harshes the mellow of sontek
04:51.21Zelut~zelut Hearts|Laptop
04:51.22jbotACTION preaches to Hearts|Laptop from the book of Zelut.  If Hearts|Laptop doesn't get it, Hearts|Laptop is beaten repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken
04:55.13sontekwhat documentary are you watching?
04:55.26Hearts|LaptopDarwin's Nightmare
04:56.54Hearts|Laptopever seen a 6 foot Perch
04:56.59Hearts|Laptopthat is a big fish
04:57.52sontekI've only seen bluegills
04:58.53herlosontek: check this out: http://pastebin.ca/624276
04:59.08herlosontek: do you know where I can sign up for a mailing list for udnug?
05:00.52sontekNot sure if there is online registration, just have Aaron add ya
05:01.03herlok, I'll look around
05:14.57raventh1sontek: are you doing anything with delaware?
05:15.59raventh1sontek: well, looks like i just got a late sms
05:16.00raventh1nm
05:17.49sontekraventh1: nope!
05:17.54sontekraventh1: I'm scared of delaware
05:30.18Hearts|LaptopNight
06:03.15sontekatoponce: ping
06:03.21sontekZelut: ping
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06:45.11trosephSweet. My first successful journey in IRC.
08:36.10sontek:D
08:36.12sontekWelcome!
08:45.14fizzwow it's getting late.
08:45.45fizzhave any of you guys had a problem with the "-15" kernel for ubuntu on a fresh install?
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13:24.45Zeluttroseph: welcome
13:24.53Zelutsontek: pong
13:32.40Zeluthttp://www.noooxml.org/petition
13:34.11atoponcesontek: pong
13:34.18atoponceZelut: running 1.1dev. very nice
13:34.25Zelutatoponce: much better I think.
13:34.29atoponcenow *this* is much better
13:34.30atoponceyeah
13:34.41atoponcechanged the priority
13:34.44atoponcepretty easy
13:35.03Zelutyeah? how?
13:35.03atoponcei compiled from source, though, rather than a bzr checkout or making a deb
13:35.15atoponceaccount set N/priority #
13:35.27Zelutthat's easy enough
13:35.28atoponcewhere N is the account number, and # is the priority you want to set
13:35.37atoponceaccount set 0/priority 5
13:35.39atoponceis what i did
13:35.45Zelutthat enough to switch you from center?
13:35.50atoponceswitched
13:35.56atoponcewell....
13:36.07atoponceno gpg support, i think
13:37.05ZelutI've decided that is forgivable for now because so few other clients support it anyway
13:37.37atoponceyeah. and with it encrypted on the wire anyway...
13:38.35atoponceZelut: did you get you jabber server setup?
13:38.57Zelutdidn't figure out the user creation yet, and went to bed.
13:40.09atoponceat the top of /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg there is an acl to set the admin
13:40.32atoponce{acl, admin, {user, "aaron"}}
13:40.42ZelutI did s/find/replace one of those with my own name and restarted the service.
13:41.37atoponcethen there's the host
13:41.48atoponce{hosts, ["aarontoponce.org"]}
13:42.40atoponceand i think that's all i worried about
13:43.33Zelutand then register/connect with a client?
13:44.03atoponcei think you may have to login to the web admin interface
13:44.53Zelutsame port?
13:45.49atoponce5269
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13:46.50atoponcenope. maybe not
13:46.55Zelutconnection refused on localhost
13:47.33atoponcehah
13:47.35atoponcehttp://www.process-one.net/docs/ejabberd/guide_en.html#htoc70
13:48.43Zelutwhat is the node?
13:48.46atoponceexample.com:5280/admin
13:49.21atoponcenode = user
13:51.27Zelutits having problems.
13:51.58ZelutI should try this one a machine probably that has a domain pointed to it properly instead of the dyndns
13:52.33atoponcegood luck. heading into work. bbiab
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14:21.14herloZelut: signed the petition
14:21.21herlo~w00t
14:21.21jbotw00t!!!
14:23.07Yorokobiheh, herlo it looks like you put Utah down as your country :)
14:26.21YorokobiAre online/electronic petitions even viable?
14:28.54herloYorokobi: Utah is my Country!
14:28.56herlo:)
14:29.50YorokobiWell, and it is probably habit (it is with me) to type "SLC<tab>Utah<tab>..."
14:30.38herloYeah, no province/state choice does that to a man!
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14:31.41undertakingyoudoes fsck work on vfat file systems?
14:32.01Yorokobifsck.vfat does
14:32.58herloundertakingyou: yes, and fsck will call the right (in this case fsck.vfat) program for you...
14:33.00Yorokobi... which is a symlink to /sbin/dosfsck
14:33.15herlofsck is smart
14:33.22herlo~fsck Yorokobi
14:33.23jbote2fsck /dev/Yorokobi : warning! filesystem contains dumbasses!
14:33.39YorokobiHey! Smartass, yes. Dumbass, no.
14:33.40herloYorokobi: apparently you are an ext2/3 filesystem
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14:33.53undertakingyouI tried to call it on a usb dev.  How can I find the device path?
14:33.57herloYorokobi: I don't know, thought it might work...
14:34.02herlofdisk -l
14:34.31herloundertakingyou: probably named /dev/sd[abc][123] or something like that
14:34.57undertakingyouherlo: you were right
14:35.06undertakingyouYorokobi: thanks
14:36.07Yorokobiundertakingyou, np
14:38.47undertakingyoudang blackberry, I put stuff on it via it being a USB drive and now it says that the media card contains errors.  ARGH . . .
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14:42.08ZelutI am having the hardest time typing today.
14:47.43herloundertakingyou: np
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14:56.31opapois there a way in bc or dc to use the previous answer in the current calculation?
14:58.15Yorokobiopapo, last
14:58.22Yorokobiopapo, in bc
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15:00.52opapothanks
15:06.40maquisopapo: . also works (ie, .+5 )
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15:20.33opapomaquis: sweet.  That's exactly what I was looking for
15:21.41maquisopapo: glad to help
15:21.41maquis:)
15:22.48opapoHerlo: have you got a Mac to PXE boot?
15:24.44Yorokobisa-weeet: http://www.nosepouch.com/
15:26.47Zeluthow can a client tell the mount options on an nfs share? showmount -e just shows /share IP.range
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15:45.56{phoenyx}"It will  help you contain excessive nasal discharge better than ever!"
15:46.03{phoenyx}yay!
15:49.17{phoenyx}ooo, there's a demo
15:50.24herloopapo: not yet, tried on Saturday but had no luck, though I did find a good site on how to do it...
15:57.46{phoenyx}http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/what_happens_when_you_turn_the_ac_off_in_the_server_room.php
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16:04.46Zelutsomeone got fired for sure
16:05.12YorokobiThe last line of the blog said s/he took an early retirement.
16:05.27ZelutI'msure they went to hide under a rock someplace
16:05.50Yorokobiwhich could mean fired. Oh, the damage that can be done by ignorance.
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16:11.06herloYorokobi: read the comments, most people think its false, I tend to agree with them.
16:11.30herloits a good anecdote however
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16:37.02atoponceheh
16:37.18atoponcei just had a netsplit on my network at home... :)
16:56.45Zelutnice
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19:33.22Zelutsontek: pong
19:33.35sontekZelut: ping!
19:33.49Zelutsontek: you pinged me last nite.. ?
19:33.53sontekyes!
19:34.00atoponceyeah. uh, same here
19:34.00sontekIt was very important
19:34.02atoponceso, pong
19:34.07sontekatoponce: so rude!
19:34.18sontekatoponce: how can I trust someone who doesn't return pings?!
19:34.22atoponce07:34 < atoponce> sontek: pong
19:34.37sontekYour clock is broken
19:34.46sontek!
19:34.50atoponcelooks to me like that was 6 hours ago my friend...
19:35.01ZelutI ponged you this morning too
19:35.11Zelutsontek: you were still hung over at the time I'm sure
19:35.31maquissontek: yeah... based on the stuff you were saying...
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19:35.42sontekZelut: What time did your ping come in?
19:35.58Zelutsontek: was like 11:30 or so if I remember
19:36.08Zelut00:10 #ubuntu-utah: < sontek> Zelut: ping
19:36.11sontekThats what I thought
19:36.13Zelut....or 10 after
19:36.15sontekatoponce: your clock is broken
19:36.23atoponcenuh uh
19:36.36atoponceunless the ntp server in dever broken
19:36.46sontekoh wait, I read your paste wrong
19:36.50sontekthats when you responded to me =)
19:36.57atoponce07:24 < Zelut> sontek: pong
19:36.57sontek7:34 is to early for me!
19:36.58herloatoponce: you don't connect to the ntp server in denver do you?
19:37.05sontek7:24 is even worse!
19:37.13sontekI didn't go to bed till 5
19:37.18atoponceherlo: actually, it's time.xmission.com that i connect to
19:37.25herloatoponce: ahh, much better
19:40.40sontekYou guys go to bed to early
19:45.44Zelut~pee sontek
19:45.44jbotACTION pee's upon sontek like a waterfall.
19:45.54maquis~dog Zelut
19:45.54jbotACTION stares at Zelut until Zelut whimpers and pees all over himself.
19:46.32atoponce~smash maquis
19:46.33jbotACTION flings an anvil in maquis's general direction
19:46.49sontek~simpsons maquis
19:46.50jbotACTION sends maquis chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!"
19:47.10Zelut~herlo herlo
19:47.11jbotACTION pokes herlo with a sharp needle
19:47.17Zeluthuzzah
19:47.22atoponce~idle atoponce
19:47.37herloZelut: Zelut
19:47.44herlo~Zelut Zelut
19:47.44jbotACTION preaches to Zelut from the book of Zelut.  If Zelut doesn't get it, Zelut is beaten repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken
19:49.48maquisZelut: yup
19:49.55Zelutdamn
19:50.09maquisor at least it'll all be white text on a black screen
19:50.13atoponce~language Zelut
19:50.14jbotACTION grabs Zelut by the ear and washes Zelut's mouth out with soap
19:50.16Zelutyeah
19:50.16maquisfreenode, terminals and coding
19:50.28Zelutatoponce: aww c-mon
19:50.40herlo~atoponce atoponce
19:50.41jbotACTION takes atoponce out behind the woodshed for not using XMPP
19:50.49atoponceZelut: :)
19:50.57atoponceherlo: ?? i don't use xmpp?
19:51.11herloatoponce: haha, its supposed to be used on others
19:51.16herlo~atoponce sontek
19:51.17jbotACTION takes sontek out behind the woodshed for not using XMPP
19:51.27herlo~herlo atoponce for making me do that
19:51.28jbotACTION pokes atoponce for making me do that with a sharp needle
19:51.54atoponceyou did it with a sharp needle? that must've hurt
19:52.13herlojbot: herlo $1 $2 is <action> pokes $1 with a sharp needle $2
19:52.14jbotACTION pokes $1 $2 is <action> pokes $1 with a sharp needle $2 with a sharp needle
19:52.28herlojbot: no, herlo $1 $2 is <action> pokes $1 with a sharp needle $2
19:52.29jbotokay, herlo
19:52.40herlo~herlo atoponce for being mean
19:52.41jbotACTION pokes atoponce with a sharp needle for being mean
19:52.45herlo:)
19:53.02herlo~thank TimRiker
19:53.02jbotherlo: no problem
19:54.03herloUtahBot: you suck!
19:54.14atoponce!insult herlo
19:54.15herlo!insult UtahBot
19:54.15UtahBotherlo: Your mamma's so stupid, that the integral from -5 to 3 of the equation (ln x)dx is equal to the volume in her head!
19:54.25herlo!insult atoponce
19:54.27UtahBotatoponce: Your mamma's so fat, the recursive function computing her fatness causes a stack overflow!
19:56.06raventh1jbot: what $1 is <action> $1 to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion
19:56.08jbotokay, raventh1
19:56.14raventh1~what herlo
19:56.15jbotACTION herlo to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion
19:56.53herlojbot: i know that recursion includes recursion, leave me alone
19:56.54jbotYou know that recursion includes recursion, leave me alone?
19:57.44maquishehehe
19:57.54raventh1haha
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20:04.20ScuniziI've got a spare drive I can't write to without sudo. Fstab shows /dev/hda1/media/hda1ext3rw,user01. Any suggestions on a fix?
20:05.44Scunizisorry, thought I was in #ubuntu. :)
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20:09.01ZelutScunizi: let me know what fix you find in #ubuntu. i have a similar issue with a usb
20:09.10Scunizik
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21:05.32ScuniziWho in here was wondering about permission access to their usb device?
21:07.03YorokobiScunizi, that'd be Zelut
21:07.21Scunizithnks.. Zelut you there?
21:07.48Scunizi*here?
21:09.16herloScunizi: I'd suggest just spitting out the answer because Zelut comes and goes
21:09.22ScuniziZelut, I had an ide drive formatted w/ ext3.  I fixed it with chmod a+rwx -R /media/"mountpoint".
21:09.34herloScunizi: that was my guess too.
21:09.39Scuniziherlo, my thoughts exactly... thanks :)
21:09.44herlo:)
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22:09.36Zelutwell I don't want to do full permissions on the mount..
22:11.15herloZelut: so don't
22:11.34herloZelut: give the mount point the appropriate user and group permissions
22:12.08herlocrazy stuff
22:20.04Zelutclass is done. finally.
22:20.25herloZelut: I've been done for over an hour :)
22:20.37herlothe students are still here though, typing a lot
22:20.50herloclick click click go the keyboards
22:21.10Zelutmine are having a hell of a time this week
22:28.22herloyeah, that's normal in the 133 methinks.  Especially since they moved to rhel5
22:29.34ZelutI'm getting the feeling one kid is an XP fanboy too. l4m3r
22:31.54heartsbaneMake him install the XMMS if he is a XP fanboy
22:32.01heartsbaneI have
22:33.20herloit was actually *very* simple
22:33.29herlonow to do something useful with it
22:34.10herloI guess I need to set it up for utosc and utos now
22:34.22ZelutI though procmail was busted.. or is that fetchmail?
22:34.33herloZelut: not procmail
22:39.47Zelutherlo: creating a new default route by creating an /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0, is the route-eth0 filename important
22:40.35herloyes
22:41.03herloits the device the route will go over
22:41.21herlorun this command
22:41.27herloip show route
22:41.38herloand look at the very end, you'll see dev eth0 for a few probably
22:45.19Zelutcan I put multiple KERNEL==" " definitions in a single udev file?
22:50.45Zelut...that's weird. restarting udev turned my volume down.
22:53.41Zelutwell I'm heading home.
23:00.17heartsbanestill in MN?
23:00.31heartsbanecoming home?
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23:46.03atoponcesynic: pyng
23:46.07atoponceer, ping
23:47.10Zelutmaybe we should start syn/ack'ing each other.
23:47.54atoponceheh
23:48.35Zelutatoponce: I can't tell when Vorian is being a smartass or not.
23:52.44synicatoponce: yo
23:52.48atoponceyeah. he's on odd dude
23:53.12atoponcesynic: you may or may not know this in vim, but it's tight
23:53.18syniclet's have it
23:53.27atoponce:vs|:e /path/to/file
23:54.11synicis that the same as :vs /path/to/file?
23:54.45atoponceshow off
23:54.48atoponceyeah. it is
23:55.11atoponcei discovered |, and thought it was pretty tight. basically piping one command to the other
23:55.26synicoh, now that's cool
23:55.27atoponcedidn't know about :vs /path/to/file though
23:56.03herloatoponce: why would you want to use :vs ?  I hate windows, use :tabnew instead
23:56.22syniccan't see two tabs at the same time :P
23:56.27herloand I've got it mapped so that ctrl-arrows move me between with :tabnext and :tabprevious
23:56.36atoponce:tabnew requires too many keystrokes to go between windows, and i can't see two windows simultaneously
23:56.40synicwith split windows, you can view more than one file at a time, or more than one place in the same file
23:56.46atoponceyeah
23:56.48atoponceexactly
23:56.52herlosynic: true, but moving around in windows sucks
23:57.04atoponcei was a :tabnew guy, until i discovered :sp and :vs
23:57.06herloand I guess seeing things at the same time is nice
23:57.10synicctrl+w+navigation key
23:57.30herlosynic: I know
23:57.33atoponceor the mouse to resize windows if you need the space
23:57.44herloatoponce: that only works in gvim or some front end to vim
23:57.55atoponceherlo: no. mouse support is in console vim
23:57.58synicI never use the tabs... but that might be because I started with vim 6
23:57.59synicbrb
23:58.01herloand besides, just take like thirty seconds and do a map
23:58.19herlofor the :tabnew and moving between tabs
23:58.24ZelutYou can actively view two files at a time with :vs?
23:58.58atoponceherlo: :a for mouse support, iirc
23:59.05atoponcenope
23:59.05sontekctrl+w+_   and ctrl+w+=  are my 2 favorite commands in vim
23:59.08atoponce:set mouse=a
23:59.10atoponcethere it is
23:59.16atoponcemouse support in vim
23:59.19ZelutI've done the tabs, or ctrl-w h/s for split window..
23:59.44atoponceZelut: with :vs and :sp, you can ctrl-w j/k/h/l
23:59.48herloatoponce: hmm, seems odd didn't work for me

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