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02:00.00 | herlo | I'm looking for a FF extension that will stop all tabs at once |
02:25.54 | Zelut | atoponce: ping |
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02:37.50 | opapo_ | how do you get a cd out of a mac if it has no power? |
02:39.10 | tonedevf | use your fingernail to open the case flap in front of the drive, then use a paperclip as with most drives |
02:39.23 | opapo_ | mechanical pencil worked |
02:41.37 | dukefuzzynugget | Phillips screwdriver? |
02:41.45 | dukefuzzynugget | Hammer? |
02:42.15 | opapo_ | dukefuzzynugget: I'm sure I it would work.... |
02:42.17 | opapo_ | once |
02:53.49 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
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02:56.27 | Zelut | atoponce: any good tutorials on setting up an openfire server for jabber? |
02:56.40 | Zelut | atoponce: your last few posts convinced me to try running my own. |
03:01.58 | opapo_ | is there a way to find out what type of memory you have in a machine without opening it up? |
03:02.29 | opapo_ | I want to know if it needs pc3200 or not |
03:03.00 | Zelut | opapo_: try 'sudo lshw' and look thru the output |
03:04.11 | opapo_ | Zelut: thanks That should do it |
03:04.39 | Zelut | if it isn't in there I don't know where it would be. |
03:10.19 | opapo_ | it's there, thanks |
03:12.35 | Zelut | heartsbane: I've been thinking about your perpetual question of 'does it save you time' on my apps. |
03:12.40 | atoponce | Zelut: i would stay away from openfire, and do ejabberd |
03:12.43 | Zelut | heartsbane: the vimperator definitely saves me time. |
03:12.46 | atoponce | trust me. i've been down that road |
03:13.01 | Zelut | atoponce: yeah? I was just looking through some openfire tutorials.. walk away? |
03:13.10 | atoponce | walk away |
03:13.23 | atoponce | openfire/wildfire relies on java runtime |
03:13.26 | atoponce | it's a resource hog |
03:13.28 | atoponce | it's solw |
03:13.32 | Zelut | ahh |
03:13.39 | atoponce | it doesn't update rosters very well |
03:13.41 | atoponce | it's buggy |
03:14.02 | atoponce | needless to say, i'm not a fan |
03:14.33 | atoponce | ejabberd is light, easy to setup, featuerful, solid and built around a large community |
03:15.06 | atoponce | it's the #1 jabber server, in terms of deployment and market share |
03:16.00 | Zelut | is it in the repos? |
03:16.09 | atoponce | yeah |
03:16.19 | atoponce | i believe you set it up once before, no? |
03:18.35 | Zelut | I might have.. it's been a while |
03:19.07 | Zelut | now, question, if I migrate to my own server I will lose my gmail contacts, yes? |
03:19.36 | atoponce | there is an app to migrate them. i've never used it, but i hear it works pretty well |
03:20.07 | atoponce | http://jru.jabberstudio.org/ |
03:20.36 | atoponce | but yeah, you'll have to send out re-authorizations to all your contacts |
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03:21.26 | Zelut | ..now that I think about it, running my own server gives me full function on the server but bitlbee still limits me on the client end doesn't it. |
03:21.54 | atoponce | how does bitlbee limit you? |
03:22.12 | atoponce | the #1 reason to host your own, is so you can control your own logs, and such |
03:22.31 | atoponce | who knows if gmail is keeping a tally on you... :) |
03:22.37 | Zelut | yeah |
03:23.02 | Zelut | well if bitlbee doesn't support priority, etc.. |
03:23.07 | atoponce | yeah |
03:23.20 | atoponce | you could always do what i do... |
03:23.51 | atoponce | run bitlbee in screen 24/7 in case you're not logged into a gui client, and use a gui client that gives you more control |
03:24.22 | atoponce | i've been thinking of giving bitlbee a try again, but on herc to get the latest release |
03:24.35 | atoponce | i hear they rewrote the jabber plugin |
03:26.03 | Zelut | yeah they did and I haven't rebuilt from cvs since they have.. |
03:26.17 | Zelut | they added jabber chatroom function last I read at least |
03:26.36 | Zelut | any major changes I need to make to config after installing ejabberd? |
03:26.52 | atoponce | so let's see. if i install bitlbee on herc, then i should be able to connect to it in irssi from my server |
03:26.59 | atoponce | no. i don't think so |
03:27.53 | Zelut | hmm.. oddly I can't access my router web interface to open the ejabberd port so I can connect. |
03:28.55 | Zelut | is it 5222 or 5223? |
03:29.11 | atoponce | depends on if you want to support ssl or tls |
03:29.15 | atoponce | i have them both opened |
03:31.49 | Zelut | I need to write this all down and blog it so I can remember |
03:31.49 | atoponce | ok. so bitlbee is installed. how do i restart the daemon? |
03:31.53 | Zelut | ok, ejabberd is installed and running. |
03:32.20 | Zelut | atoponce: bitblee is an xinetd service so restart /etc/init.d/xinetd |
03:32.46 | atoponce | i don't have xinetd installed. install it? |
03:33.03 | Zelut | pretty sure it was an xinetd service.. mine is |
03:33.09 | Zelut | weird if that isn't a dependency |
03:33.18 | herlo | bitlbee is xinetd/inetd |
03:33.32 | atoponce | tcpd was a dependancy... |
03:33.41 | herlo | atoponce: if you are using Ubuntu, its inetd |
03:34.53 | atoponce | herlo: i am runnig the bitlbee daemon on another box on the local network. can i get access to it from elsewhere on the intranet? |
03:35.00 | atoponce | if so, how do i set it up? |
03:35.35 | Zelut | atoponce: mine is running on the same box as irssi so I /connect localhost in irssi. You could try /connect herc ..? |
03:35.39 | herlo | atoponce: yes |
03:35.57 | herlo | check out the /etc/[x]inetd.d/bitlbee file |
03:35.59 | atoponce | Zelut: yeah. that's what i want to do is connect to herc rather than localhost |
03:36.31 | atoponce | herlo: the bitlbee.conf is in /etc/bitlbee/ |
03:36.43 | herlo | atoponce: its an xinetd requirement |
03:36.51 | herlo | unless you don't have one there |
03:37.01 | herlo | then they've changed how its used... |
03:37.07 | herlo | or you can do either. |
03:37.09 | atoponce | i do have xinetd |
03:37.18 | herlo | do you have a bitlbee file in that directory? |
03:37.26 | atoponce | no |
03:37.29 | atoponce | just /etc/bitlbee |
03:37.39 | herlo | can you pastebin its contents for me? |
03:37.42 | atoponce | sure |
03:38.33 | atoponce | http://pastebin.ca/624233 |
03:38.52 | Zelut | atoponce: I believe the service is running, how do I create and use a new account on my ejabberd? |
03:39.20 | herlo | atoponce: you have it set to run in INETD mode, which measn you need to have a bitlbee config in there... |
03:39.41 | atoponce | herlo: there is no /etc/inetd/ dir |
03:40.00 | herlo | is there an /etc/xinetd.d ? or /etc/inetd.d ? |
03:40.04 | herlo | directory |
03:41.15 | atoponce | /etc/xinetd.d/ |
03:41.22 | herlo | ook in there |
03:41.29 | atoponce | Zelut: check the config file. you setup the initial admin there |
03:41.36 | atoponce | herlo: there is no bitlbee conf in there |
03:42.00 | atoponce | chargen daytime discard echo and time are the only files |
03:42.09 | herlo | atoponce: I know, but you probably need one |
03:42.12 | herlo | hold on |
03:43.06 | herlo | atoponce: this is what mine looks like. |
03:43.08 | herlo | http://pastebin.ca/624238 |
03:43.57 | atoponce | but you're running it locally, right? i can connect locally, and i don't have anything like that |
03:44.05 | atoponce | so is it needed? |
03:44.18 | atoponce | the /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf should be adequate, i would think |
03:44.54 | herlo | yeah, probably, but your config says to use inetd |
03:45.13 | herlo | change the runmode to daemon |
03:45.16 | atoponce | everything in that config that is uncommented, i uncommented myself |
03:45.23 | atoponce | it is initially all commented out |
03:45.24 | atoponce | ok |
03:45.31 | herlo | ahh |
03:45.41 | herlo | this is all new stuff, sounds like I need to upgrade |
03:45.56 | atoponce | then to relaunch the daemon? |
03:46.39 | atoponce | /etc/init.d/inetd restart? |
03:47.28 | herlo | no |
03:47.35 | herlo | /etc/init.d/bitlbee restart |
03:47.46 | herlo | there should be a sysv service if that's the case |
03:48.27 | atoponce | 21:48 [192] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server 192.168.1.4 port 6667 [Connection refused] |
03:48.41 | herlo | seems interesting. |
03:48.44 | atoponce | no /etc/init.d/bitlbee... doesn't exist |
03:48.48 | Zelut | if the code is here http://code.bitlbee.org/bitlbee/ and I have to use bzr, how do I pull it in? |
03:49.02 | herlo | so can you list the files in the package? and pastebin it? |
03:49.03 | Zelut | I've now used cvs and svn but not familiar with bzr. |
03:49.26 | atoponce | Zelut: i've never used bzr |
03:49.51 | atoponce | herlo: list the files in the package? wouldn't that just be at packages.ubuntu.com? |
03:50.29 | herlo | I don't know, but rpm can do it on the command line |
03:50.31 | herlo | rpm -ql |
03:50.40 | herlo | dpkg probably has something similar |
03:50.51 | herlo | or you can give me the link |
03:51.38 | Zelut | dpkg -L : list files installed from package |
03:52.09 | herlo | :) |
03:52.29 | atoponce | herlo: http://pastebin.ca/624243 |
03:53.14 | herlo | k |
03:55.54 | herlo | atoponce: looks like you might just want to use xinetd. I am really wondering what happened to the .deb pkgs |
03:56.01 | herlo | http://en.linuxreviews.org/Bitlbee#How_to_run_your_own_server |
03:56.03 | herlo | might help |
04:00.03 | Zelut | atoponce: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bitlbee |
04:00.17 | Zelut | I made that. there is a fix that needs for the current version. |
04:02.07 | atoponce | i keep getting connection refused when trying to connect to the ip running the service |
04:02.49 | Zelut | atoponce: is the service running properly? did you check out the wiki? |
04:02.52 | Zelut | i had a similar problem |
04:03.50 | atoponce | 22:03 [192] -!- Error: Syntax error in configuration file `/etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf'. |
04:03.53 | atoponce | progress! |
04:06.36 | atoponce | im in |
04:06.38 | atoponce | sweet |
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04:09.43 | herlo | atoponce: I lost the conversation, where were we |
04:09.56 | atoponce | #ubuntu-utah |
04:10.01 | herlo | atoponce: duh |
04:10.05 | atoponce | you asked |
04:10.10 | atoponce | i got it running |
04:10.15 | herlo | atoponce: how? |
04:10.36 | atoponce | i just commented everything out, created the /etc/xinetd.d/bitlbee file, restarted xinetd and connected |
04:10.42 | herlo | ahh |
04:10.49 | atoponce | commented everything out in /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf |
04:10.50 | herlo | I wonder if that config file is new |
04:10.58 | herlo | yeah |
04:11.00 | atoponce | not sure |
04:11.18 | atoponce | but feisty doesn't create the /etc/xinetd.d/bitlbee file as it sholud |
04:11.23 | atoponce | i guess it's listed as a bug |
04:11.28 | herlo | seems odd |
04:11.47 | atoponce | now, to see if i can change the priority in jabber... |
04:12.14 | herlo | atoponce: glad to hear it works... |
04:21.56 | sontek | We might have the Mono summit coming to Utah =) |
04:24.13 | herlo | sontek: nice |
04:26.09 | sontek | Discussions are going on now, the 2 biggest issues from last one was Boston was expensive for hotels, and the Hotel we did the conference in didn't work very well |
04:26.19 | sontek | so I mentioned Provo as being cheap and having OSTC =p |
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04:28.32 | herlo | sontek: yeah, they might go for that, or they could do it at any of the hotels downtown SLC too. |
04:28.46 | herlo | I'd honestly prefer to do it there, but I couldn't afford it... |
04:29.42 | atoponce | there's no way to restore a dir removed with 'rm -rf' is there? |
04:31.06 | Zelut | not any tool I know of. |
04:31.17 | Zelut | that data is still technically there, but I don't know how to get it.. |
04:31.28 | atoponce | oh well |
04:35.19 | sontek | atoponce: you can recover it with debugfs and lsdel |
04:35.29 | sontek | atoponce: I'm trying to find the post I read when I needed to do it |
04:35.33 | sontek | I don't remember the exact steps |
04:35.34 | atoponce | meh |
04:35.37 | atoponce | it's no biggie |
04:35.44 | herlo | ~lart sontek |
04:35.44 | jbot | follow's sontek with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
04:35.56 | atoponce | it was just logs, which i can do without |
04:36.02 | sontek | http://e2undel.sourceforge.net/recovery-howto.html http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-569462-highlight-recover+data.html |
04:36.09 | sontek | those fixed me right up |
04:37.23 | atoponce | won't work with ext3... |
04:38.39 | sontek | I used it with ext3 |
04:44.32 | Hearts|Laptop | Don't harsh his mellow like that sontek |
04:45.25 | atoponce | Hearts|Laptop: hey! you're walking a fine line my friend... |
04:45.41 | atoponce | ~harsh Hearts|Laptop |
04:45.56 | sontek | His mellow is far from harshed! |
04:45.59 | Zelut | ~pee sontek |
04:46.00 | jbot | ACTION pee's upon sontek like a waterfall. |
04:46.05 | sontek | ~simpsons Zelut |
04:46.05 | jbot | ACTION sends Zelut chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
04:46.14 | Hearts|Laptop | ~pee sontek |
04:46.15 | jbot | ACTION pee's upon sontek like a waterfall. |
04:46.30 | atoponce | jbot: harsh $hearts is <action> harshes the mellow of $hearts |
04:46.31 | jbot | atoponce: okay |
04:46.31 | sontek | damn you both! |
04:46.36 | atoponce | ~harsh Hearts|Laptop |
04:46.37 | jbot | ACTION harshes the mellow of Hearts|Laptop |
04:46.48 | Hearts|Laptop | :( |
04:46.59 | Hearts|Laptop | ~Heartsbane |
04:46.59 | jbot | i guess heartsbane is a whiner and a menace |
04:47.02 | atoponce | time for bet i think |
04:47.04 | Hearts|Laptop | ;( |
04:47.32 | Hearts|Laptop | how big of a bet? |
04:47.41 | atoponce | queen |
04:47.49 | Zelut | I think he means bed |
04:48.05 | Hearts|Laptop | cause I don't think the 't' is anywhere near the 'd' |
04:48.08 | sontek | 5 on hearts |
04:48.14 | atoponce | d h t |
04:48.22 | atoponce | there's only one letter inbetween |
04:48.24 | Zelut | dht |
04:48.36 | sontek | qwerty! |
04:48.38 | sontek | n00bs |
04:48.39 | Zelut | aoeuidhtns! |
04:48.50 | atoponce | ~aoeuidhtns-! |
04:48.51 | jbot | from memory, aoeuidhtns-! is the salute Dvorak typists give each other before engaging in conversation. In person, the two wishing to verbally converse take each other by the left hand in a common handshake, raising the right arm giving the Vulcan sign and saying aloud in unison "A weed hittin' us!". In text conversation, the characters 'aoeuidhtns-!' must be ... |
04:48.54 | Hearts|Laptop | qwerty forever |
04:49.04 | atoponce | meh |
04:49.19 | atoponce | g'night |
04:49.25 | Hearts|Laptop | k |
04:49.33 | Hearts|Laptop | remember B-E-D |
04:50.25 | sontek | also known has hitting the hay! |
04:50.38 | Hearts|Laptop | what did the hay ever do to you |
04:50.48 | Hearts|Laptop | ECO TERRORIST |
04:51.12 | Hearts|Laptop | ~harsh sontek |
04:51.13 | jbot | ACTION harshes the mellow of sontek |
04:51.21 | Zelut | ~zelut Hearts|Laptop |
04:51.22 | jbot | ACTION preaches to Hearts|Laptop from the book of Zelut. If Hearts|Laptop doesn't get it, Hearts|Laptop is beaten repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
04:55.13 | sontek | what documentary are you watching? |
04:55.26 | Hearts|Laptop | Darwin's Nightmare |
04:56.54 | Hearts|Laptop | ever seen a 6 foot Perch |
04:56.59 | Hearts|Laptop | that is a big fish |
04:57.52 | sontek | I've only seen bluegills |
04:58.53 | herlo | sontek: check this out: http://pastebin.ca/624276 |
04:59.08 | herlo | sontek: do you know where I can sign up for a mailing list for udnug? |
05:00.52 | sontek | Not sure if there is online registration, just have Aaron add ya |
05:01.03 | herlo | k, I'll look around |
05:14.57 | raventh1 | sontek: are you doing anything with delaware? |
05:15.59 | raventh1 | sontek: well, looks like i just got a late sms |
05:16.00 | raventh1 | nm |
05:17.49 | sontek | raventh1: nope! |
05:17.54 | sontek | raventh1: I'm scared of delaware |
05:30.18 | Hearts|Laptop | Night |
06:03.15 | sontek | atoponce: ping |
06:03.21 | sontek | Zelut: ping |
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06:45.11 | troseph | Sweet. My first successful journey in IRC. |
08:36.10 | sontek | :D |
08:36.12 | sontek | Welcome! |
08:45.14 | fizz | wow it's getting late. |
08:45.45 | fizz | have any of you guys had a problem with the "-15" kernel for ubuntu on a fresh install? |
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13:24.45 | Zelut | troseph: welcome |
13:24.53 | Zelut | sontek: pong |
13:32.40 | Zelut | http://www.noooxml.org/petition |
13:34.11 | atoponce | sontek: pong |
13:34.18 | atoponce | Zelut: running 1.1dev. very nice |
13:34.25 | Zelut | atoponce: much better I think. |
13:34.29 | atoponce | now *this* is much better |
13:34.30 | atoponce | yeah |
13:34.41 | atoponce | changed the priority |
13:34.44 | atoponce | pretty easy |
13:35.03 | Zelut | yeah? how? |
13:35.03 | atoponce | i compiled from source, though, rather than a bzr checkout or making a deb |
13:35.15 | atoponce | account set N/priority # |
13:35.27 | Zelut | that's easy enough |
13:35.28 | atoponce | where N is the account number, and # is the priority you want to set |
13:35.37 | atoponce | account set 0/priority 5 |
13:35.39 | atoponce | is what i did |
13:35.45 | Zelut | that enough to switch you from center? |
13:35.50 | atoponce | switched |
13:35.56 | atoponce | well.... |
13:36.07 | atoponce | no gpg support, i think |
13:37.05 | Zelut | I've decided that is forgivable for now because so few other clients support it anyway |
13:37.37 | atoponce | yeah. and with it encrypted on the wire anyway... |
13:38.35 | atoponce | Zelut: did you get you jabber server setup? |
13:38.57 | Zelut | didn't figure out the user creation yet, and went to bed. |
13:40.09 | atoponce | at the top of /etc/ejabberd/ejabberd.cfg there is an acl to set the admin |
13:40.32 | atoponce | {acl, admin, {user, "aaron"}} |
13:40.42 | Zelut | I did s/find/replace one of those with my own name and restarted the service. |
13:41.37 | atoponce | then there's the host |
13:41.48 | atoponce | {hosts, ["aarontoponce.org"]} |
13:42.40 | atoponce | and i think that's all i worried about |
13:43.33 | Zelut | and then register/connect with a client? |
13:44.03 | atoponce | i think you may have to login to the web admin interface |
13:44.53 | Zelut | same port? |
13:45.49 | atoponce | 5269 |
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13:46.50 | atoponce | nope. maybe not |
13:46.55 | Zelut | connection refused on localhost |
13:47.33 | atoponce | hah |
13:47.35 | atoponce | http://www.process-one.net/docs/ejabberd/guide_en.html#htoc70 |
13:48.43 | Zelut | what is the node? |
13:48.46 | atoponce | example.com:5280/admin |
13:49.21 | atoponce | node = user |
13:51.27 | Zelut | its having problems. |
13:51.58 | Zelut | I should try this one a machine probably that has a domain pointed to it properly instead of the dyndns |
13:52.33 | atoponce | good luck. heading into work. bbiab |
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14:21.14 | herlo | Zelut: signed the petition |
14:21.21 | herlo | ~w00t |
14:21.21 | jbot | w00t!!! |
14:23.07 | Yorokobi | heh, herlo it looks like you put Utah down as your country :) |
14:26.21 | Yorokobi | Are online/electronic petitions even viable? |
14:28.54 | herlo | Yorokobi: Utah is my Country! |
14:28.56 | herlo | :) |
14:29.50 | Yorokobi | Well, and it is probably habit (it is with me) to type "SLC<tab>Utah<tab>..." |
14:30.38 | herlo | Yeah, no province/state choice does that to a man! |
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14:31.41 | undertakingyou | does fsck work on vfat file systems? |
14:32.01 | Yorokobi | fsck.vfat does |
14:32.58 | herlo | undertakingyou: yes, and fsck will call the right (in this case fsck.vfat) program for you... |
14:33.00 | Yorokobi | ... which is a symlink to /sbin/dosfsck |
14:33.15 | herlo | fsck is smart |
14:33.22 | herlo | ~fsck Yorokobi |
14:33.23 | jbot | e2fsck /dev/Yorokobi : warning! filesystem contains dumbasses! |
14:33.39 | Yorokobi | Hey! Smartass, yes. Dumbass, no. |
14:33.40 | herlo | Yorokobi: apparently you are an ext2/3 filesystem |
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14:33.53 | undertakingyou | I tried to call it on a usb dev. How can I find the device path? |
14:33.57 | herlo | Yorokobi: I don't know, thought it might work... |
14:34.02 | herlo | fdisk -l |
14:34.31 | herlo | undertakingyou: probably named /dev/sd[abc][123] or something like that |
14:34.57 | undertakingyou | herlo: you were right |
14:35.06 | undertakingyou | Yorokobi: thanks |
14:36.07 | Yorokobi | undertakingyou, np |
14:38.47 | undertakingyou | dang blackberry, I put stuff on it via it being a USB drive and now it says that the media card contains errors. ARGH . . . |
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14:42.08 | Zelut | I am having the hardest time typing today. |
14:47.43 | herlo | undertakingyou: np |
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14:56.31 | opapo | is there a way in bc or dc to use the previous answer in the current calculation? |
14:58.15 | Yorokobi | opapo, last |
14:58.22 | Yorokobi | opapo, in bc |
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15:00.52 | opapo | thanks |
15:06.40 | maquis | opapo: . also works (ie, .+5 ) |
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15:20.33 | opapo | maquis: sweet. That's exactly what I was looking for |
15:21.41 | maquis | opapo: glad to help |
15:21.41 | maquis | :) |
15:22.48 | opapo | Herlo: have you got a Mac to PXE boot? |
15:24.44 | Yorokobi | sa-weeet: http://www.nosepouch.com/ |
15:26.47 | Zelut | how can a client tell the mount options on an nfs share? showmount -e just shows /share IP.range |
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15:45.56 | {phoenyx} | "It will help you contain excessive nasal discharge better than ever!" |
15:46.03 | {phoenyx} | yay! |
15:49.17 | {phoenyx} | ooo, there's a demo |
15:50.24 | herlo | opapo: not yet, tried on Saturday but had no luck, though I did find a good site on how to do it... |
15:57.46 | {phoenyx} | http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/what_happens_when_you_turn_the_ac_off_in_the_server_room.php |
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16:04.46 | Zelut | someone got fired for sure |
16:05.12 | Yorokobi | The last line of the blog said s/he took an early retirement. |
16:05.27 | Zelut | I'msure they went to hide under a rock someplace |
16:05.50 | Yorokobi | which could mean fired. Oh, the damage that can be done by ignorance. |
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16:11.06 | herlo | Yorokobi: read the comments, most people think its false, I tend to agree with them. |
16:11.30 | herlo | its a good anecdote however |
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16:37.02 | atoponce | heh |
16:37.18 | atoponce | i just had a netsplit on my network at home... :) |
16:56.45 | Zelut | nice |
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19:33.22 | Zelut | sontek: pong |
19:33.35 | sontek | Zelut: ping! |
19:33.49 | Zelut | sontek: you pinged me last nite.. ? |
19:33.53 | sontek | yes! |
19:34.00 | atoponce | yeah. uh, same here |
19:34.00 | sontek | It was very important |
19:34.02 | atoponce | so, pong |
19:34.07 | sontek | atoponce: so rude! |
19:34.18 | sontek | atoponce: how can I trust someone who doesn't return pings?! |
19:34.22 | atoponce | 07:34 < atoponce> sontek: pong |
19:34.37 | sontek | Your clock is broken |
19:34.46 | sontek | ! |
19:34.50 | atoponce | looks to me like that was 6 hours ago my friend... |
19:35.01 | Zelut | I ponged you this morning too |
19:35.11 | Zelut | sontek: you were still hung over at the time I'm sure |
19:35.31 | maquis | sontek: yeah... based on the stuff you were saying... |
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19:35.42 | sontek | Zelut: What time did your ping come in? |
19:35.58 | Zelut | sontek: was like 11:30 or so if I remember |
19:36.08 | Zelut | 00:10 #ubuntu-utah: < sontek> Zelut: ping |
19:36.11 | sontek | Thats what I thought |
19:36.13 | Zelut | ....or 10 after |
19:36.15 | sontek | atoponce: your clock is broken |
19:36.23 | atoponce | nuh uh |
19:36.36 | atoponce | unless the ntp server in dever broken |
19:36.46 | sontek | oh wait, I read your paste wrong |
19:36.50 | sontek | thats when you responded to me =) |
19:36.57 | atoponce | 07:24 < Zelut> sontek: pong |
19:36.57 | sontek | 7:34 is to early for me! |
19:36.58 | herlo | atoponce: you don't connect to the ntp server in denver do you? |
19:37.05 | sontek | 7:24 is even worse! |
19:37.13 | sontek | I didn't go to bed till 5 |
19:37.18 | atoponce | herlo: actually, it's time.xmission.com that i connect to |
19:37.25 | herlo | atoponce: ahh, much better |
19:40.40 | sontek | You guys go to bed to early |
19:45.44 | Zelut | ~pee sontek |
19:45.44 | jbot | ACTION pee's upon sontek like a waterfall. |
19:45.54 | maquis | ~dog Zelut |
19:45.54 | jbot | ACTION stares at Zelut until Zelut whimpers and pees all over himself. |
19:46.32 | atoponce | ~smash maquis |
19:46.33 | jbot | ACTION flings an anvil in maquis's general direction |
19:46.49 | sontek | ~simpsons maquis |
19:46.50 | jbot | ACTION sends maquis chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
19:47.10 | Zelut | ~herlo herlo |
19:47.11 | jbot | ACTION pokes herlo with a sharp needle |
19:47.17 | Zelut | huzzah |
19:47.22 | atoponce | ~idle atoponce |
19:47.37 | herlo | Zelut: Zelut |
19:47.44 | herlo | ~Zelut Zelut |
19:47.44 | jbot | ACTION preaches to Zelut from the book of Zelut. If Zelut doesn't get it, Zelut is beaten repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
19:49.48 | maquis | Zelut: yup |
19:49.55 | Zelut | damn |
19:50.09 | maquis | or at least it'll all be white text on a black screen |
19:50.13 | atoponce | ~language Zelut |
19:50.14 | jbot | ACTION grabs Zelut by the ear and washes Zelut's mouth out with soap |
19:50.16 | Zelut | yeah |
19:50.16 | maquis | freenode, terminals and coding |
19:50.28 | Zelut | atoponce: aww c-mon |
19:50.40 | herlo | ~atoponce atoponce |
19:50.41 | jbot | ACTION takes atoponce out behind the woodshed for not using XMPP |
19:50.49 | atoponce | Zelut: :) |
19:50.57 | atoponce | herlo: ?? i don't use xmpp? |
19:51.11 | herlo | atoponce: haha, its supposed to be used on others |
19:51.16 | herlo | ~atoponce sontek |
19:51.17 | jbot | ACTION takes sontek out behind the woodshed for not using XMPP |
19:51.27 | herlo | ~herlo atoponce for making me do that |
19:51.28 | jbot | ACTION pokes atoponce for making me do that with a sharp needle |
19:51.54 | atoponce | you did it with a sharp needle? that must've hurt |
19:52.13 | herlo | jbot: herlo $1 $2 is <action> pokes $1 with a sharp needle $2 |
19:52.14 | jbot | ACTION pokes $1 $2 is <action> pokes $1 with a sharp needle $2 with a sharp needle |
19:52.28 | herlo | jbot: no, herlo $1 $2 is <action> pokes $1 with a sharp needle $2 |
19:52.29 | jbot | okay, herlo |
19:52.40 | herlo | ~herlo atoponce for being mean |
19:52.41 | jbot | ACTION pokes atoponce with a sharp needle for being mean |
19:52.45 | herlo | :) |
19:53.02 | herlo | ~thank TimRiker |
19:53.02 | jbot | herlo: no problem |
19:54.03 | herlo | UtahBot: you suck! |
19:54.14 | atoponce | !insult herlo |
19:54.15 | herlo | !insult UtahBot |
19:54.15 | UtahBot | herlo: Your mamma's so stupid, that the integral from -5 to 3 of the equation (ln x)dx is equal to the volume in her head! |
19:54.25 | herlo | !insult atoponce |
19:54.27 | UtahBot | atoponce: Your mamma's so fat, the recursive function computing her fatness causes a stack overflow! |
19:56.06 | raventh1 | jbot: what $1 is <action> $1 to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
19:56.08 | jbot | okay, raventh1 |
19:56.14 | raventh1 | ~what herlo |
19:56.15 | jbot | ACTION herlo to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
19:56.53 | herlo | jbot: i know that recursion includes recursion, leave me alone |
19:56.54 | jbot | You know that recursion includes recursion, leave me alone? |
19:57.44 | maquis | hehehe |
19:57.54 | raventh1 | haha |
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20:04.20 | Scunizi | I've got a spare drive I can't write to without sudo. Fstab shows /dev/hda1/media/hda1ext3rw,user01. Any suggestions on a fix? |
20:05.44 | Scunizi | sorry, thought I was in #ubuntu. :) |
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20:09.01 | Zelut | Scunizi: let me know what fix you find in #ubuntu. i have a similar issue with a usb |
20:09.10 | Scunizi | k |
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21:05.32 | Scunizi | Who in here was wondering about permission access to their usb device? |
21:07.03 | Yorokobi | Scunizi, that'd be Zelut |
21:07.21 | Scunizi | thnks.. Zelut you there? |
21:07.48 | Scunizi | *here? |
21:09.16 | herlo | Scunizi: I'd suggest just spitting out the answer because Zelut comes and goes |
21:09.22 | Scunizi | Zelut, I had an ide drive formatted w/ ext3. I fixed it with chmod a+rwx -R /media/"mountpoint". |
21:09.34 | herlo | Scunizi: that was my guess too. |
21:09.39 | Scunizi | herlo, my thoughts exactly... thanks :) |
21:09.44 | herlo | :) |
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22:09.36 | Zelut | well I don't want to do full permissions on the mount.. |
22:11.15 | herlo | Zelut: so don't |
22:11.34 | herlo | Zelut: give the mount point the appropriate user and group permissions |
22:12.08 | herlo | crazy stuff |
22:20.04 | Zelut | class is done. finally. |
22:20.25 | herlo | Zelut: I've been done for over an hour :) |
22:20.37 | herlo | the students are still here though, typing a lot |
22:20.50 | herlo | click click click go the keyboards |
22:21.10 | Zelut | mine are having a hell of a time this week |
22:28.22 | herlo | yeah, that's normal in the 133 methinks. Especially since they moved to rhel5 |
22:29.34 | Zelut | I'm getting the feeling one kid is an XP fanboy too. l4m3r |
22:31.54 | heartsbane | Make him install the XMMS if he is a XP fanboy |
22:32.01 | heartsbane | I have |
22:33.20 | herlo | it was actually *very* simple |
22:33.29 | herlo | now to do something useful with it |
22:34.10 | herlo | I guess I need to set it up for utosc and utos now |
22:34.22 | Zelut | I though procmail was busted.. or is that fetchmail? |
22:34.33 | herlo | Zelut: not procmail |
22:39.47 | Zelut | herlo: creating a new default route by creating an /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0, is the route-eth0 filename important |
22:40.35 | herlo | yes |
22:41.03 | herlo | its the device the route will go over |
22:41.21 | herlo | run this command |
22:41.27 | herlo | ip show route |
22:41.38 | herlo | and look at the very end, you'll see dev eth0 for a few probably |
22:45.19 | Zelut | can I put multiple KERNEL==" " definitions in a single udev file? |
22:50.45 | Zelut | ...that's weird. restarting udev turned my volume down. |
22:53.41 | Zelut | well I'm heading home. |
23:00.17 | heartsbane | still in MN? |
23:00.31 | heartsbane | coming home? |
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23:46.03 | atoponce | synic: pyng |
23:46.07 | atoponce | er, ping |
23:47.10 | Zelut | maybe we should start syn/ack'ing each other. |
23:47.54 | atoponce | heh |
23:48.35 | Zelut | atoponce: I can't tell when Vorian is being a smartass or not. |
23:52.44 | synic | atoponce: yo |
23:52.48 | atoponce | yeah. he's on odd dude |
23:53.12 | atoponce | synic: you may or may not know this in vim, but it's tight |
23:53.18 | synic | let's have it |
23:53.27 | atoponce | :vs|:e /path/to/file |
23:54.11 | synic | is that the same as :vs /path/to/file? |
23:54.45 | atoponce | show off |
23:54.48 | atoponce | yeah. it is |
23:55.11 | atoponce | i discovered |, and thought it was pretty tight. basically piping one command to the other |
23:55.26 | synic | oh, now that's cool |
23:55.27 | atoponce | didn't know about :vs /path/to/file though |
23:56.03 | herlo | atoponce: why would you want to use :vs ? I hate windows, use :tabnew instead |
23:56.22 | synic | can't see two tabs at the same time :P |
23:56.27 | herlo | and I've got it mapped so that ctrl-arrows move me between with :tabnext and :tabprevious |
23:56.36 | atoponce | :tabnew requires too many keystrokes to go between windows, and i can't see two windows simultaneously |
23:56.40 | synic | with split windows, you can view more than one file at a time, or more than one place in the same file |
23:56.46 | atoponce | yeah |
23:56.48 | atoponce | exactly |
23:56.52 | herlo | synic: true, but moving around in windows sucks |
23:57.04 | atoponce | i was a :tabnew guy, until i discovered :sp and :vs |
23:57.06 | herlo | and I guess seeing things at the same time is nice |
23:57.10 | synic | ctrl+w+navigation key |
23:57.30 | herlo | synic: I know |
23:57.33 | atoponce | or the mouse to resize windows if you need the space |
23:57.44 | herlo | atoponce: that only works in gvim or some front end to vim |
23:57.55 | atoponce | herlo: no. mouse support is in console vim |
23:57.58 | synic | I never use the tabs... but that might be because I started with vim 6 |
23:57.59 | synic | brb |
23:58.01 | herlo | and besides, just take like thirty seconds and do a map |
23:58.19 | herlo | for the :tabnew and moving between tabs |
23:58.24 | Zelut | You can actively view two files at a time with :vs? |
23:58.58 | atoponce | herlo: :a for mouse support, iirc |
23:59.05 | atoponce | nope |
23:59.05 | sontek | ctrl+w+_ and ctrl+w+= are my 2 favorite commands in vim |
23:59.08 | atoponce | :set mouse=a |
23:59.10 | atoponce | there it is |
23:59.16 | atoponce | mouse support in vim |
23:59.19 | Zelut | I've done the tabs, or ctrl-w h/s for split window.. |
23:59.44 | atoponce | Zelut: with :vs and :sp, you can ctrl-w j/k/h/l |
23:59.48 | herlo | atoponce: hmm, seems odd didn't work for me |