| 00:13.15 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah thaddeusq (n=thaddeus@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 00:19.43 | sontek | OK |
| 00:19.46 | sontek | whos driving the bug |
| 00:19.47 | sontek | fess up |
| 00:20.14 | Yorokobi | That'd be me. Want to buy it? |
| 00:20.22 | Zelut | ~pee sontek |
| 00:20.22 | jbot | ACTION unzips his pants and tinkles on the head of sontek |
| 00:20.29 | sontek | lol, nope, I want to make fun of you, didn't see a girl in the crowd! |
| 00:22.00 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah MikeB- (n=dbasinge@ubuntu/member/MikeB-) |
| 00:22.13 | Yorokobi | I really don't have a good response for that. For the record, it belongs to my wife. The Beetle was easier to get to than my Honda. |
| 00:23.39 | sontek | :D |
| 00:23.50 | sontek | DONT PEE ON ME |
| 00:23.57 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah tonedevf (n=dave@70-58-35-226.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 00:28.49 | herlo | ~poo sontek |
| 00:28.50 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at sontek |
| 00:30.14 | sontek | herlo: Ubuntu is better than Linux!! |
| 00:32.24 | herlo | sontek: but federa is beter than ubuntu |
| 00:33.09 | sontek | herlo: Fedora is like the little brother of Ubuntu, he looks up to him and strives to be just like him |
| 00:33.34 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Zelut] by ChanServ |
| 00:33.43 | herlo | sontek: Federa maybe, but Fedora is much better than Ubuntu, everybody derives from Fedora according to Mr Aboutboul... |
| 00:33.53 | herlo | http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3693511 |
| 00:33.54 | UtahBot | <herlo> http://tinyurl.com/yodcyj |
| 00:33.59 | sontek | ~kick Zelut |
| 00:34.00 | jbot | ACTION kicks Zelut |
| 00:35.31 | Zelut | ~language atoponce |
| 00:35.32 | jbot | ACTION grabs atoponce by the ear and washes atoponce's mouth out with soap |
| 00:36.32 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah Hearts|Laptop (n=tsharpe@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 00:37.04 | herlo | I was a bit worried that atoponce had breast cancer... |
| 00:37.10 | herlo | whew! |
| 00:37.30 | Hunding | sounds like a lwa suit to me |
| 00:37.46 | Hunding | /s/lwa/law/ |
| 00:37.58 | Hearts|Laptop | He had me at the word: breast |
| 00:38.54 | sontek | Chicks dig Fedora |
| 00:39.15 | sontek | There was a hottie at the django BoF at OSCON |
| 00:40.06 | sontek | http://leahculver.com/ <-- hottie django dev |
| 00:43.58 | maquis | Zelut: ? |
| 00:44.03 | Zelut | maquis: yes |
| 00:44.12 | maquis | no female participants were? |
| 00:44.13 | maquis | er |
| 00:44.16 | maquis | where? |
| 00:44.36 | Zelut | maquis: well you, but nobody else. I'm commenting at the maturity level of these guys. |
| 00:44.36 | maquis | where? |
| 00:44.36 | maquis | here? |
| 00:44.36 | maquis | oh |
| 00:44.36 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [-o Zelut] by ChanServ |
| 00:44.38 | maquis | now i understand what you're saying... |
| 00:44.43 | maquis | just had to read back a bit further |
| 00:44.52 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah MikeB- (n=dbasinge@ubuntu/member/MikeB-) |
| 00:44.52 | herlo | sontek: I agree |
| 00:44.59 | maquis | as for the issue of chicks digging fedora, i disagree |
| 00:45.03 | maquis | chicks dig freebsd |
| 00:45.30 | maquis | (who wouldn't fall for that adorable little daemon in the green tennis shoes?) |
| 00:47.06 | maquis | ok everyone, cross your fingers... i'm going to reboot into my new kernel (hopefully) |
| 00:48.13 | Zelut | yay |
| 00:49.19 | maquis | w00t! |
| 00:49.21 | maquis | first try! |
| 00:50.40 | herlo | maquis: you would know |
| 00:50.48 | maquis | :) |
| 00:52.36 | Hearts|Laptop | http://pics.protocol42.com/funny/unixgeek.jpg |
| 00:52.38 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah Vorian (n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian) |
| 00:52.38 | UtahBot | <Hearts|Laptop> http://tinyurl.com/3dare3 |
| 00:53.56 | synic | !timebomb nearn |
| 00:53.58 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are three wires. They are Yellow, Grey and Red. |
| 00:55.40 | synic | hrmm |
| 00:58.19 | sontek | synic: you are missing the meet! |
| 00:58.35 | synic | I usually do |
| 00:58.45 | sontek | synic: n00b |
| 00:58.51 | synic | :P |
| 00:59.00 | Zelut | lol |
| 00:59.04 | Hearts|Laptop | you are missing the Tolkein Cryptography stand in the corner story |
| 00:59.10 | sontek | ~fire synic |
| 00:59.11 | jbot | I'm sorry, synic, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 00:59.32 | maquis | !timebomb sontek |
| 00:59.34 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are three wires. They are Lavender, Grey and Red. |
| 00:59.57 | maquis | !timebomb maquis |
| 01:00.21 | maquis | !cut Grey |
| 01:00.27 | maquis | !cut Red |
| 01:00.30 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [sontek!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (*BOOM!*) |
| 01:01.04 | maquis | Hearts|Laptop: does sontek have to be the one to cut the wire? |
| 01:01.07 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah sontek (n=sontek@208-44-169-156.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 01:01.10 | maquis | and how do you cut a wire? |
| 01:01.14 | Hearts|Laptop | yes |
| 01:01.20 | Zelut | .!cutwire |
| 01:01.27 | maquis | cool! |
| 01:01.36 | maquis | !timebomb maquis |
| 01:01.38 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There is one wire. It is Grey. |
| 01:01.43 | maquis | !cutwire Grey |
| 01:01.44 | UtahBot | maquis cut the Grey wire. This has defused the bomb! |
| 01:01.53 | maquis | that was kinda lame |
| 01:02.02 | Yorokobi | One wire? Lame. |
| 01:02.03 | maquis | i had 49 seconds to choose one wire out of one |
| 01:02.09 | Zelut | last time I got six wires and blew myself right out of the channel |
| 01:02.14 | maquis | haha |
| 01:02.18 | sontek | yeah, sure, set a timebomb on me while i'm not looking! |
| 01:02.19 | sontek | cheapshot! |
| 01:02.22 | Hearts|Laptop | way to blow yourself |
| 01:02.27 | maquis | sontek: sorry... you had just said something |
| 01:02.31 | Hearts|Laptop | out of the channel |
| 01:02.33 | maquis | so i thought you were looking |
| 01:02.36 | herlo | Hearts|Laptop: freudian slip |
| 01:03.36 | sontek | aaron is teaching me encryption! I have to pay attention |
| 01:04.00 | herlo | sontek: atoponce is good at encryptoin |
| 01:04.37 | sontek | herlo: its because he had the captain crunch decoder ring |
| 01:04.45 | sontek | herlo: I ate fruity pebbles |
| 01:07.25 | herlo | sontek: I liked captain crunch, but wasn't so serious about my encryption when I was 10 |
| 01:07.35 | Hearts|Laptop | liar |
| 01:07.38 | sontek | herlo: but it cuts your mouth! |
| 01:07.54 | sontek | herlo: and fruity pebbles are only 120 calories per serving |
| 01:08.12 | herlo | sontek: that's sad |
| 01:08.20 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah jtanium (n=jtanium@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 01:14.07 | Hearts|Laptop | hi |
| 01:15.19 | Zelut | we should mod this channel during meets so everyone pays attention |
| 01:16.07 | thaddeusq | No, you should transcribe everything that is said, so that we can pay attention |
| 01:16.59 | sontek | its done in ssl |
| 01:17.02 | sontek | its called the handshake |
| 01:17.04 | sontek | but uh.. |
| 01:17.37 | herlo | ~poo sontek |
| 01:17.38 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at sontek |
| 01:18.05 | sontek | ~herlo herlo |
| 01:18.06 | jbot | ACTION pokes herlo with a sharp needle |
| 01:21.14 | Hearts|Laptop | whats binary? |
| 01:24.17 | Zelut | ask maquis |
| 01:24.24 | sontek | I think its a type of bird |
| 01:24.26 | sontek | like a canary |
| 01:38.58 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah steve8track (n=steve@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 01:39.11 | steve8track | anyone here? |
| 01:39.53 | Zelut | too many people here |
| 01:39.58 | steve8track | !timebomb thaddeusq |
| 01:40.00 | thaddeusq | nope. We are all over there. |
| 01:40.01 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are six wires. They are Red, Bisque, Black, Yellow, Pink and Violet. |
| 01:40.15 | thaddeusq | .!cutwire Yellow |
| 01:40.32 | Yorokobi | sans . thaddeusq '!cutwire <color>' |
| 01:40.40 | thaddeusq | !cutwire Yellow |
| 01:40.41 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [thaddeusq!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (snip...*BOOM!*) |
| 01:40.54 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah thaddeusq (n=thaddeus@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 01:44.31 | sontek | ~language atoponce |
| 01:44.31 | jbot | ACTION grabs atoponce by the ear and washes atoponce's mouth out with soap |
| 01:44.38 | sontek | thats strike 2! |
| 01:49.54 | Hunding | how long do these meetings usually go on for? |
| 01:50.05 | Hunding | and is Yorokobi in this room? |
| 01:50.45 | Zelut | Hunding: 'bout 2hrs, and yes. |
| 01:50.51 | Zelut | bet you'd like to know who :) |
| 01:50.56 | Hunding | yes I would |
| 01:51.08 | Hunding | blue shirt? |
| 01:51.17 | thaddeusq | Nope, that's me |
| 01:51.25 | sontek | Hunding: hes the guy with the compaq |
| 01:51.34 | herlo | sontek: I am changing black to purple |
| 01:51.34 | Zelut | by MikeB with the Ubuntu shirt |
| 01:51.44 | sontek | herlo: racist! |
| 01:51.52 | herlo | sontek: purple is not a race |
| 01:52.57 | herlo | no comeback ey! |
| 01:53.09 | sontek | herlo: genocide! |
| 01:53.18 | herlo | sontek: swee! |
| 01:53.37 | herlo | I am now known as herlo - the 'h' is silent |
| 01:54.01 | Yorokobi | Funny, that's the way I always say it |
| 01:54.28 | herlo | Yorokobi: I might start using that |
| 01:54.52 | herlo | Yorokobi: say it "air low"? |
| 01:55.06 | Yorokobi | ehr-low |
| 01:55.23 | sontek | I'm sontek, pronounced sontek |
| 01:58.34 | Hunding | <--David |
| 01:58.44 | sontek | <-- John ! |
| 02:00.41 | herlo | <!-- herlo --> |
| 02:00.49 | sontek | ^ nerd |
| 02:00.57 | herlo | sontek: true |
| 02:01.05 | herlo | ^^ must pee |
| 02:03.06 | herlo | sontek: you must be gay? You're the only John I know |
| 02:03.06 | sontek | herlo: what? whos john? |
| 02:03.09 | sontek | herlo: do I have to show you my back |
| 02:04.08 | herlo | sontek: no, I don't want you to take off your shirt |
| 02:04.29 | sontek | herlo: Is it because I use gentoo? |
| 02:06.31 | herlo | ~submit sontek |
| 02:06.43 | sontek | ~encrypt herlo |
| 02:06.53 | sontek | WHAT?! NO ~encrypt? |
| 02:09.18 | herlo | Zelut: pm |
| 02:09.47 | MikeB- | I wish freenode would add ssl |
| 02:09.50 | herlo | jbot: encrypt $1 is <action> ~rot13 $1 |
| 02:09.50 | jbot | herlo: okay |
| 02:09.55 | herlo | ~encrypt sontek |
| 02:09.55 | jbot | ACTION ~rot13 sontek |
| 02:13.06 | steve8track | !timebomb herlo |
| 02:13.09 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are six wires. They are Green, Turquoise, Beige, Mauve, Blue and Navy. |
| 02:13.56 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [herlo!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (*BOOM!*) |
| 02:14.19 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=clints@166-70-63-209.ip.xmission.com) |
| 02:14.34 | herlo | !timebomb steve8track |
| 02:14.37 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are two wires. They are Crimson and Bisque. |
| 02:14.50 | steve8track | !cutwire Bisque |
| 02:14.50 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [steve8track!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (snip...*BOOM!*) |
| 02:14.58 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah steve8track (n=steve@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 02:15.09 | steve8track | !timebomb herlo |
| 02:15.10 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There is one wire. It is Lime. |
| 02:15.15 | steve8track | !timebomb herlo |
| 02:15.50 | herlo | !cutwire Lime |
| 02:15.50 | UtahBot | herlo cut the Lime wire. This has defused the bomb! |
| 02:18.14 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah steve8track (n=steve@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 02:21.30 | Zelut | Yorokobi: what is your email so I can send your signed key back? |
| 02:22.48 | Yorokobi | Zelut, colbyw@gmail.com |
| 02:23.29 | Yorokobi | Zelut, it is on my key, too |
| 02:24.30 | isaac_ | yeah i couldnt quite make it to the thing today, i went to the monster truck show at rocky mountain raceway |
| 02:33.21 | Yorokobi | Hunding, do you have a key? |
| 02:34.42 | herlo | Yorokobi: full name? |
| 02:36.21 | Yorokobi | herlo, yeah, some PGP docs recommend full names. |
| 02:52.29 | Hearts|Laptop | sontek: cup your hands I need to pee |
| 02:52.51 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah Hearts|Laptop (n=tsharpe@65-121-181-195.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 04:19.39 | heartsbane | Did everyone enjoy the meeting |
| 04:29.20 | synic | !timebomb Chanserv |
| 04:29.22 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are four wires. They are Grey, Magenta, Tan and Silver. |
| 04:34.52 | heartsbane | !timebomb herlo |
| 04:34.53 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are six wires. They are Red, Gold, Blue, Brown, Fuchsia and Crimson. |
| 04:35.19 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [herlo!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (*BOOM!*) |
| 04:35.44 | synic | !timebomb heartsbane |
| 04:35.47 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are five wires. They are Green, Maroon, Khaki, Beige and Grey. |
| 04:36.05 | heartsbane | !cut green |
| 04:36.12 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [heartsbane!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (*BOOM!*) |
| 04:36.23 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah heartsbane (n=ne1469@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 04:36.27 | heartsbane | Do it again |
| 04:36.31 | synic | !timebomb heartsbane |
| 04:36.33 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are six wires. They are Bisque, Brown, Turquoise, Magenta, Grey and Crimson. |
| 04:36.37 | heartsbane | cut bisque |
| 04:36.43 | heartsbane | cut brown |
| 04:36.50 | heartsbane | cut magenta |
| 04:36.53 | synic | it's !cutwire |
| 04:36.58 | heartsbane | ah damn |
| 04:36.59 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [heartsbane!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (*BOOM!*) |
| 04:37.05 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah heartsbane (n=ne1469@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 04:37.06 | synic | !timebomb heartsbane |
| 04:37.08 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are four wires. They are Maroon, Gold, Brown and Violet. |
| 04:37.18 | heartsbane | !cutwire brown |
| 04:37.18 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [heartsbane!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (snip...*BOOM!*) |
| 04:37.22 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah heartsbane (n=ne1469@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 04:37.27 | synic | heh |
| 04:38.02 | heartsbane | Well that was a nice meeting |
| 04:38.12 | heartsbane | night all |
| 04:40.27 | synic | !timebomb UtahBot |
| 04:40.27 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [synic!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (I will not tollerate this!) |
| 04:40.39 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah synic (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 04:40.57 | heartsbane | apparently UtahBot can not self terminate |
| 04:48.04 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah heartsbane (n=ne1469@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 05:49.11 | atoponce | sure glad to see that everyone was paying more attention to timebomb than my meeting... |
| 05:50.45 | atoponce | !timebomb sontek |
| 05:50.48 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are three wires. They are Magenta, White and Gold. |
| 05:51.40 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [sontek!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (*BOOM!*) |
| 05:51.45 | atoponce | !timebomb heartsbane |
| 05:51.48 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are five wires. They are Teal, Red, Magenta, Green and Maroon. |
| 05:52.15 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [heartsbane!n=UtahBot@oalug/bot/utahbot] by UtahBot (*BOOM!*) |
| 05:53.23 | atoponce | !timebomb /n |
| 05:53.24 | UtahBot | Diffuse the bomb by cutting the correct wire. There are six wires. They are Lavender, Lime, Mauve, Olive, Green and Beige. |
| 05:53.27 | atoponce | bah |
| 05:54.24 | Yorokobi | Taking advantage of people while they're away, eh, atoponce? |
| 05:54.45 | atoponce | that's what they get for not paying attention. they'll learn. :) |
| 05:54.55 | Yorokobi | Funny. |
| 05:55.28 | Yorokobi | Taking offense ... reminds me of something Brigham Young is quoted as saying. |
| 05:55.41 | atoponce | ? |
| 05:56.33 | Yorokobi | Only a fool takes offense when no offense is intended. An even bigger fool takes offense when offense is intended. (paraphrased, emphasis added) |
| 05:57.14 | atoponce | heh |
| 05:59.51 | atoponce | @load Factoids |
| 05:59.51 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:02.42 | atoponce | @learn COC as 1) Be considerate 2) Be respectful 3) Be collaborative 4) When you disagree, consult others 5) When you are unsure, ask for help 6) Step down considerately |
| 06:02.42 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:02.47 | atoponce | @COC |
| 06:02.48 | encryptz | atoponce: "COC" could be 1) Be considerate 2) Be respectful 3) Be collaborative 4) When you disagree, consult others 5) When you are unsure, ask for help 6) Step down considerately |
| 06:03.04 | atoponce | @COC > UtahBot |
| 06:03.04 | encryptz | atoponce: Error: "COC" is not a valid command. |
| 06:03.08 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 06:04.04 | atoponce | @COC | UtahBot |
| 06:04.04 | encryptz | atoponce: Error: "COC" is not a valid command. |
| 06:19.57 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah heartsbane (n=ne1469@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 06:33.28 | atoponce | @learn add aptitude as aptitude is superior to apt-get in every way. See http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude for more info |
| 06:33.29 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:33.30 | UtahBot | <atoponce> http://tinyurl.com/2nft7c |
| 06:33.51 | heartsbane | Go to sleep |
| 06:34.00 | atoponce | no |
| 06:34.05 | heartsbane | I tried |
| 06:34.15 | heartsbane | But I keep coming back to my box |
| 06:34.22 | atoponce | @learn aptitude as aptitude is superior to apt-get in every way. See http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude for more info |
| 06:34.22 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:34.24 | UtahBot | <atoponce> http://tinyurl.com/2nft7c |
| 06:35.15 | atoponce | the tinyprl is getting under my skin, i think |
| 06:35.23 | heartsbane | bye Utahbot |
| 06:36.29 | atoponce | he'll be back |
| 06:36.29 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah UtahBot (n=UtahBot@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 06:36.31 | atoponce | see |
| 06:37.05 | atoponce | @search aptitude |
| 06:37.05 | encryptz | atoponce: There were no matching configuration variables. |
| 06:37.09 | atoponce | @search add |
| 06:37.09 | encryptz | atoponce: supybot.reply.whenNotAddressed, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.chars, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.strings, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.nick, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.nick.atEnd, supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.nicks, supybot.commands.defaultPlugins.addcapability, and supybot.plugins.Karma.allowUnaddressedKarma |
| 06:37.13 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 06:37.50 | heartsbane | Wow you hosed the bot |
| 06:40.50 | atoponce | @aptitude |
| 06:40.50 | encryptz | atoponce: "aptitude" could be aptitude is superior to apt-get in every way. See http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude for more info |
| 06:41.21 | heartsbane | @GPG |
| 06:41.22 | encryptz | heartsbane: Error: "GPG" is not a valid command. |
| 06:41.47 | atoponce | what do you want it to say? |
| 06:41.52 | heartsbane | @gpg |
| 06:41.52 | encryptz | heartsbane: Error: "gpg" is not a valid command. |
| 06:42.07 | heartsbane | point it to the ubuntu wiki page |
| 06:42.14 | atoponce | have a link? |
| 06:43.06 | heartsbane | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto |
| 06:43.42 | atoponce | @gpg |
| 06:43.42 | encryptz | atoponce: Error: "gpg" is not a valid command. |
| 06:43.49 | atoponce | wha? |
| 06:43.59 | atoponce | @gpg |
| 06:43.59 | encryptz | atoponce: Error: "gpg" is not a valid command. |
| 06:44.02 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 06:44.05 | heartsbane | why does the bot hate us |
| 06:44.08 | heartsbane | @GPG |
| 06:44.08 | encryptz | heartsbane: Error: "GPG" is not a valid command. |
| 06:44.14 | atoponce | @learn gpg as The Gnu Privacy Guard. For encrypting/decrypting/signing/verifying digtal data. Refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto for Ubuntu help. |
| 06:44.15 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:44.17 | atoponce | @gpg |
| 06:44.18 | encryptz | atoponce: "gpg" could be The Gnu Privacy Guard. For encrypting/decrypting/signing/verifying digtal data. Refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto for Ubuntu help. |
| 06:44.30 | atoponce | i didn't think it was channel specific, but maybe it is |
| 06:44.37 | heartsbane | excellent |
| 06:44.41 | heartsbane | @gpg |
| 06:44.41 | encryptz | heartsbane: "gpg" could be The Gnu Privacy Guard. For encrypting/decrypting/signing/verifying digtal data. Refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto for Ubuntu help. |
| 06:44.50 | heartsbane | @herlo |
| 06:44.51 | encryptz | heartsbane: Error: "herlo" is not a valid command. |
| 06:45.01 | heartsbane | damn right and it never will be |
| 06:45.02 | atoponce | i'm still working on him |
| 06:45.27 | heartsbane | By him you mean the bot, not herlo |
| 06:45.35 | heartsbane | because herlo is beyond help |
| 06:45.37 | atoponce | yes. the bot |
| 06:45.51 | atoponce | herlo needs help though |
| 06:45.58 | atoponce | maybe you should help him. :) |
| 06:46.35 | heartsbane | mmmm....... no |
| 06:47.42 | atoponce | @gpg |
| 06:47.42 | encryptz | atoponce: "gpg" is The Gnu Privacy Guard. For encrypting/decrypting/signing/verifying digtal data. Refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto for Ubuntu help. |
| 06:48.00 | atoponce | heartsbane: can you add a factoid? |
| 06:48.15 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.24 | atoponce | s/rd/rn/ |
| 06:48.46 | heartsbane | ya but I trying to think of one... hold on |
| 06:49.35 | atoponce | i just want to see of anyone other than the botmaster can |
| 06:51.29 | atoponce | @load User |
| 06:51.29 | encryptz | atoponce: Error: User is already loaded. |
| 06:51.53 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah undertakingyou (n=will@71-219-83-135.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 06:52.02 | atoponce | heartsbane: if you cant, then /msg the bot in pm, and '@register <password>' |
| 06:52.16 | heartsbane | @learn beryl as Beryl is a fork of Compiz created by Quinn Storm and the developers on the compiz.net forums. This guide shows how to get it running on Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnFeisty |
| 06:52.17 | encryptz | heartsbane: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:52.22 | atoponce | sire |
| 06:52.25 | atoponce | nice, i meant |
| 06:52.25 | heartsbane | @beryl |
| 06:52.26 | encryptz | heartsbane: "beryl" is Beryl is a fork of Compiz created by Quinn Storm and the developers on the compiz.net forums. This guide shows how to get it running on Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnFeisty |
| 06:52.34 | heartsbane | cool |
| 06:52.36 | atoponce | sweet |
| 06:52.52 | heartsbane | how do ammend that |
| 06:53.16 | heartsbane | and how long do we want the explanations to be. |
| 06:54.08 | atoponce | you have to '@forget beryl' and relearn it |
| 06:54.14 | heartsbane | k |
| 06:54.32 | atoponce | i would say that's about right on the max length |
| 06:54.41 | heartsbane | k |
| 06:55.36 | heartsbane | can we put our personal opinions in the factoid? for example: |
| 06:56.17 | heartsbane | @nvidia if you looking for the best way to install your nvidia drivers, we would suggest Alberto Milones Envy |
| 06:56.17 | encryptz | heartsbane: Error: "nvidia" is not a valid command. |
| 06:56.27 | heartsbane | and then the URL |
| 06:56.36 | undertakingyou | atoponce: is encryptz a new bot on the channel? |
| 06:56.38 | heartsbane | as well as for ATI |
| 06:56.39 | atoponce | 'alberto milones envy'? |
| 06:56.55 | atoponce | undertakingyou: yeah. he's going to replace UtahBot as soon as i can get him up to par |
| 06:57.01 | heartsbane | Yes: Alberto Milone's Envy |
| 06:57.31 | atoponce | quit harshing my mellow |
| 06:57.44 | heartsbane | :( |
| 06:57.46 | heartsbane | sorry |
| 06:57.48 | atoponce | :) |
| 06:57.48 | heartsbane | http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=111 |
| 06:58.36 | atoponce | well, to answer your question, i don't care about opinion. it's our bot, so we can do with it as we please. :) |
| 06:58.37 | heartsbane | I think it is single handedly the best way to maintain current drivers for Nvidia & ATI on the desktop |
| 06:59.32 | atoponce | intel ftw |
| 06:59.50 | atoponce | i think it's time to hit the sack |
| 07:00.25 | heartsbane | write him a e-mail, he might put it in there.... regular blogger @ planet.ubuntu.com |
| 07:00.39 | heartsbane | but I am going to try to go back to sleep too |
| 07:01.08 | heartsbane | night aaron |
| 08:52.59 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah sontek (n=sontek@208-44-169-156.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 08:53.08 | sontek | hi atoponce |
| 13:57.27 | Hunding | anyone up and about this morning yet? |
| 14:03.59 | Zelut | morning |
| 14:06.48 | atoponce | morning |
| 14:07.38 | atoponce | @slashdot |
| 14:07.40 | encryptz | atoponce: Sharp Rise Seen in Chinese Patents <http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/143295062/article.pl> || Why We Need to Expand into Space <http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/143272195/article.pl> || OOXML Won't Get Fast-Track ISO Standardization <http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/143256662/article.pl> || Baiji River Dolphin May or May Not (4 more messages) |
| 14:25.52 | Zelut | ok. I need to find a 10/100/1000 8-port switch. |
| 14:31.05 | Zelut | Hunding: I still can't find your key on the key servers.. |
| 14:35.19 | Zelut | nevermind |
| 14:39.04 | Zelut | sontek: ping - e17 build question |
| 14:46.10 | Hunding | Zelut: should be there, I know that Yorokobi found it last night...apperently I published on the EU server...I guess that is the default for kgpg |
| 14:47.02 | Zelut | Hunding: I found it after poking around some more and returned a signed copy to you. |
| 14:49.26 | heartsbane | Who was Hunding? I never got the introduction |
| 14:50.17 | Hunding | heartsbane: I was sitting on the corner near the back |
| 14:50.33 | heartsbane | next to opapo |
| 14:50.34 | Hunding | the one with a compaq laptop |
| 14:50.42 | Hunding | yes that is correct |
| 14:50.45 | heartsbane | ok |
| 14:50.56 | Zelut | Hunding: I have to say I imagined you much older |
| 14:51.23 | Hunding | Zelut: thanks :) I do get ID for beer still |
| 14:52.15 | Zelut | man how long does this cvs co take? |
| 14:53.03 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah jtanium (n=jtanium@jtanium.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 14:57.19 | Hunding | Zelut: I had a good time last night...I had hoped that atoponce was going to get more into the Fibonacci numbers and Benfords law more...but maybe next time |
| 14:59.58 | Zelut | I'm sure we could talk for hours on the details of encryption but I think it is adequate to have a basic understanding and then intruduce the tools like he did. |
| 15:00.23 | Zelut | so although none of us are encryption experts we know how to digitally sign and encrypt email or files. |
| 15:10.42 | heartsbane | Every meeting is fun |
| 15:13.14 | Zelut | heartsbane: I remember I checked your ID but I don't think I imported your key. tell me your key ID again? |
| 15:22.01 | Zelut | man everyone must be sleeping in today. if I weren't still on east coast time I probably would be too |
| 15:23.26 | Zelut | atoponce: ping - key trust map |
| 15:29.01 | Hunding | Zelut: is there some sort of GUI frontend to enigmail? I don´t see where you found the per-person setup rules |
| 15:29.01 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah Yorokobi_ (n=Yorokobi@unaffiliated/yorokobi) |
| 15:29.41 | Yorokobi_ | So, what do you do when irssi stops responding? Kill it and miss any pm's you received? |
| 15:30.22 | Zelut | Hunding: did you install the thunderbird-enigmail package? You may need to restart thunderbird and you'll have a new file-menu listing "OpenPGPG" |
| 15:30.52 | Zelut | Yorokobi_: I suppose.. mine has always been stable so I haven't needed to do that. |
| 15:32.16 | Yorokobi_ | Every so often, it won't let me type. I can issue screen commands, but irssi appears "locked up" |
| 15:32.53 | Zelut | don't think I've ever seen that |
| 15:34.11 | heartsbane | Zelut: sorry I just walked passed, I will login from the laptop and get to you |
| 15:34.45 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah jtanium (n=jtanium@jtanium.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 15:35.26 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah Yorokobi (n=Yorokobi@unaffiliated/yorokobi) |
| 15:35.32 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah Hearts|Laptop (n=tsharpe@166-70-210-101.ip.xmission.com) |
| 15:39.18 | Hearts|Laptop | Zelut: still there Key ID is FF78DF62 |
| 15:39.20 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
| 15:41.03 | Hearts|Laptop | its published on keyserver.ubuntu.com , pgp.mit.edu , and keyserver.pgp.com |
| 15:42.54 | Hearts|Laptop | atoponce: ping |
| 15:43.18 | atoponce | Hearts|Laptop: pong |
| 15:44.04 | Hearts|Laptop | atoponce: I have found a key that I created nearly 10 years ago, I do remember the passphrase, and there is no expiration date on it |
| 15:44.30 | Hearts|Laptop | atoponce: can I import it and place it under my tsharpe@gmail.com key? |
| 15:44.47 | atoponce | no |
| 15:44.59 | Hearts|Laptop | what can I do |
| 15:45.03 | atoponce | at least not that i am aware |
| 15:45.26 | atoponce | if you have the private key, i would create and issue a revocation certificate, revoking the key |
| 15:45.27 | Hearts|Laptop | can I revoke it with the actual key |
| 15:45.42 | Hearts|Laptop | I don't have the private key anymore |
| 15:46.05 | atoponce | ahh. then you're stuck. there's nothing you can do, but tell users to use your new key |
| 15:46.26 | Hearts|Laptop | atoponce: damn it you learn something and now you want to make it right |
| 15:46.53 | atoponce | heh |
| 15:47.05 | atoponce | talk to Zelut about his key troubles |
| 15:47.09 | atoponce | and my wife, even |
| 15:47.33 | Zelut | yeah, I did that with my first key. |
| 15:47.44 | Zelut | uploaded and then lost the private key. ohh well. |
| 15:49.03 | atoponce | it happens. i'm sure the key servers are just littered with tons of those sorts of keys |
| 15:49.12 | atoponce | @aptitude |
| 15:49.12 | encryptz | atoponce: "aptitude" is aptitude is superior to apt-get in every way. See http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude for more info |
| 15:49.25 | atoponce | bah |
| 15:49.30 | atoponce | @forget aptitude |
| 15:49.31 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:49.43 | Hearts|Laptop | and that is where it ends? 'oh well' there is no method for killing a obsolete key without compromising digital signatures |
| 15:49.46 | Hearts|Laptop | @gpg |
| 15:49.46 | encryptz | Hearts|Laptop: "gpg" is The Gnu Privacy Guard. For encrypting/decrypting/signing/verifying digtal data. Refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto for Ubuntu help. |
| 15:49.48 | atoponce | @learn aptitude as superior to apt-get in every way: http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/ |
| 15:49.48 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:50.23 | atoponce | Hearts|Laptop: if you don't have the private key, then there is no way to kill that public key. that's the whole point |
| 15:50.42 | atoponce | you should not be able to do anything with a public key, if that is all you have |
| 15:51.39 | Hearts|Laptop | ya I now know that, well the hearts@itsnet.com is not valid (everyone consider yourself informed) |
| 15:52.04 | Zelut | Hearts|Laptop: the only thing someone would be able to do is encrypt to the obsolete public key to never be decrypted again. |
| 15:52.09 | atoponce | yeah. that's what you have to do, is just inform everyone manually |
| 15:52.20 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=clints@166-70-63-209.ip.xmission.com) |
| 15:52.43 | Zelut | I wish there were a way to remove the comment from a key :( |
| 15:53.07 | Hearts|Laptop | I kinda like the comment in my old key |
| 15:53.09 | atoponce | the thing to be aware of with key servers, is they are appending in nature, not overriding |
| 15:53.41 | atoponce | so, if you delete user ids from your key, then republish it to the servers, the servers will not recognize the change |
| 15:53.55 | atoponce | however, if you add a user id, and republish, they will |
| 15:54.09 | atoponce | same goes with signatures, subkeys, and everything of that nature |
| 15:54.18 | atoponce | fyi |
| 15:58.27 | Hearts|Laptop | atoponce: did you ever sign my key? because seahorse is reporting you have not |
| 15:59.48 | HoneyShiv_ | Zelut is helping me make a key now since i missed the meeting. |
| 15:59.52 | atoponce | Hearts|Laptop: i did, and republished it to the ubuntu keyserver. grab it from there, and it should reflect the signature |
| 16:00.05 | Hearts|Laptop | k |
| 16:00.19 | atoponce | HoneyShiv_: we missed you |
| 16:01.27 | atoponce | @learn keyservers as Please publish your gpg key to any of the following keyservers for best reliability and visibility: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371, http://pgp.mit.edu/, http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net |
| 16:01.27 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:02.33 | Yorokobi | hpk://<keyserver> isn't it? |
| 16:03.12 | atoponce | hkp://, yeah. there are web interfaces to it to. maybe i should change it |
| 16:03.55 | atoponce | herlo: i don't see that you have signed my key... |
| 16:04.27 | Hearts|Laptop | Zelut: thank you I received your e-mail |
| 16:11.46 | HoneyShiv | atoponce: what type and size do i use for a new signing key? |
| 16:13.23 | atoponce | HoneyShiv: you've created a DSA/ElGamal key? |
| 16:13.37 | HoneyShiv | atoponce: i haven't created anything yet. |
| 16:14.04 | atoponce | ok. create the DSA key first, with any size. i'd recommend at least 1024 |
| 16:14.43 | atoponce | then after everything is created, my recommendation would be to create a new RSA subkey for signing only |
| 16:21.29 | HoneyShiv | ok i made a 1024/dsa key and it says usage: SC. also a 4096/rsa it says usage:E |
| 16:21.45 | atoponce | perfect |
| 16:21.51 | atoponce | what are you using for a front-end? |
| 16:21.54 | HoneyShiv | does that mean the 4096 is for encryption and the 1024 is for signing? |
| 16:21.59 | atoponce | yup |
| 16:22.05 | HoneyShiv | terminal lol. i'm on my mac |
| 16:22.45 | atoponce | so, that means that you can only sign as strong as 160-bit. if you gen an rsa subkey, then you can create up to 512-bit signatures |
| 16:22.48 | atoponce | that's cool |
| 16:23.23 | atoponce | all of the 160-bit hashing algorithms for creating signatures have been broken, minus one: RIPEMD160 |
| 16:23.25 | HoneyShiv | sub 4096R/449F3E6C created: 2007-08-12 expires: never usage: E |
| 16:23.32 | HoneyShiv | pub 1024D/57F29CDD created: 2007-08-12 expires: never usage: SC |
| 16:23.40 | atoponce | SHA1, MD5, MD4, etc are all cracked |
| 16:24.48 | atoponce | so, are you in the gpg interface in the terminal then? |
| 16:25.31 | HoneyShiv | yes |
| 16:25.55 | atoponce | ok. then you can run 'addkey' and select RSA for signing only |
| 16:28.37 | HoneyShiv | sub 4096R/35635691 created: 2007-08-12 expires: never usage: S |
| 16:28.40 | HoneyShiv | like that? |
| 16:28.44 | HoneyShiv | now i have three |
| 16:28.47 | atoponce | yup. perfect |
| 16:28.50 | HoneyShiv | pub 1024D/57F29CDD created: 2007-08-12 expires: never usage: SC |
| 16:28.56 | HoneyShiv | sub 4096R/449F3E6C created: 2007-08-12 expires: never usage: E |
| 16:29.00 | HoneyShiv | sub 4096R/35635691 created: 2007-08-12 expires: never usage: S |
| 16:29.04 | atoponce | yeah. you should have 1 key, with 2 subkeys |
| 16:29.18 | atoponce | only one thing left, now |
| 16:30.04 | atoponce | pull up your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file in a text editor |
| 16:30.30 | atoponce | and add the following: |
| 16:31.09 | atoponce | digest-algo: SHA256 # you can add SHA256, SHA384 or SHA512, depending on how strong you want to digitally sign text |
| 16:31.36 | atoponce | keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com # the default keyserver that will be used |
| 16:31.40 | atoponce | s/:// |
| 16:31.44 | atoponce | bah |
| 16:32.37 | atoponce | here's mine: http://pastebin.ca/654608 |
| 16:33.43 | HoneyShiv | digest-algo: SHA512 like this at the end of the file? |
| 16:34.15 | atoponce | yeah, but ditch the : it was a typo. you can put it anywhere in the file |
| 16:35.45 | HoneyShiv | done |
| 16:35.56 | HoneyShiv | now i'm ready? |
| 16:36.09 | atoponce | yup |
| 16:36.11 | atoponce | :) |
| 16:37.18 | atoponce | @forget keyservers |
| 16:37.20 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:38.36 | atoponce | @learn add keyservers hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com, hkp://pgp.mit.eud & hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for adding to your gpg config or front-end |
| 16:38.36 | encryptz | atoponce: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 16:38.47 | atoponce | @learn keyservers as hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com, hkp://pgp.mit.eud & hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for adding to your gpg config or front-end |
| 16:38.47 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:39.41 | atoponce | @learn add keyservers as http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371, http://pgp.mit.eud & http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for accessing via a web browser |
| 16:39.41 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:39.52 | atoponce | @keyservers |
| 16:39.52 | encryptz | atoponce: "keyservers" is hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com, hkp://pgp.mit.eud & hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for adding to your gpg config or front-end |
| 16:40.05 | atoponce | @learn keyservers as http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371, http://pgp.mit.eud & http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for accessing via a web browser |
| 16:40.06 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:40.09 | atoponce | @keyservers |
| 16:40.09 | encryptz | atoponce: "keyservers" is (#1) hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com, hkp://pgp.mit.eud & hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for adding to your gpg config or front-end, or (#2) http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371, http://pgp.mit.eud & http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for accessing via a web browser |
| 16:40.15 | atoponce | there we go |
| 16:40.31 | atoponce | ugh |
| 16:40.36 | atoponce | @forget keyservers 1 |
| 16:40.37 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:41.13 | atoponce | @learn keyservers as hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com, hkp://pgp.mit.edu & hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for adding to your gpg config or front-end |
| 16:41.13 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:41.21 | atoponce | @keyservers |
| 16:41.21 | encryptz | atoponce: "keyservers" is (#1) http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371, http://pgp.mit.eud & http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for accessing via a web browser, or (#2) hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com, hkp://pgp.mit.edu & hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for adding to your gpg config or front-end |
| 16:41.30 | atoponce | @forget keyservers 1 |
| 16:41.30 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:42.02 | atoponce | @learn keyservers as http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371, http://pgp.mit.edu & http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for accessing via a web browser |
| 16:42.02 | encryptz | atoponce: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:42.07 | atoponce | @keyservers |
| 16:42.08 | encryptz | atoponce: "keyservers" is (#1) hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com, hkp://pgp.mit.edu & hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for adding to your gpg config or front-end, or (#2) http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371, http://pgp.mit.edu & http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net for accessing via a web browser |
| 16:42.23 | atoponce | better. sorry for the spam |
| 16:47.58 | Sir_Brizz | man is there some alternative to Stylish for creating styles for web pages? |
| 16:51.50 | Hearts|Laptop | HoneyShiv: where did you put your key? |
| 16:52.07 | Hearts|Laptop | Where is it published? |
| 16:55.45 | Zelut | we didn't publish it yet. |
| 16:55.50 | Hearts|Laptop | oh |
| 16:56.36 | Hearts|Laptop | I would like to add it later, however explain I won't sign it yet |
| 16:56.55 | Hearts|Laptop | but she will be in the 'web of trust' |
| 16:57.19 | Zelut | she'll most likely be trusted through me, but i understand |
| 16:57.20 | Zelut | brb |
| 16:57.24 | Hearts|Laptop | k |
| 16:59.42 | sontek | Zelut: ACK |
| 17:06.35 | sontek | My only problem with gpg is I suck at making backups so I'd lose my private key :P |
| 17:06.47 | Zelut | sontek: I just finished compiling e17 from cvs and I don't know to use it lol |
| 17:07.09 | sontek | Zelut: lol, what part don't you know how to use? |
| 17:07.38 | Zelut | sontek: put it on a usb and remote host someplace, like a web server. |
| 17:07.58 | Zelut | sontek: uhm I'm running it now and I'd really like to get network manager back for one thing. |
| 17:09.05 | sontek | Zelut: NetworkManager is running, but the little icon you usually use is a Gnome specific add-on, they have a KDE one too |
| 17:09.26 | sontek | Zelut: run enlightenment on top of Gnome if you want it |
| 17:10.19 | Zelut | sontek: how would I do that? based on the instructions I added an xsession listing for E17 and selected that. |
| 17:11.46 | sontek | Zelut: e17 isn't pre-alpha, its been out for over 3 years |
| 17:12.03 | sontek | Zelut: I was running e17 in late 2004 :P |
| 17:12.19 | Zelut | I know but all over the site it still lists it as pre-alpha |
| 17:12.35 | Hearts|Laptop | sounds well maintained |
| 17:12.48 | Zelut | they should team up with google if they are going to make perpetual-beta applications :) |
| 17:13.06 | sontek | Zelut: they just don't have a lot of contributors, but everyone takes ideas from them |
| 17:13.17 | sontek | Zelut: they were the first wm to do composite rendering |
| 17:13.17 | Zelut | everyone I talk to says it is stable enough. sounds like everyone just builds from cvs and they don't bother with funalized releases. |
| 17:13.53 | Zelut | sontek: but would you suggest I run e17 on gnome then for a more familiar, yet improved, desktop experience? |
| 17:15.09 | sontek | Zelut: I prefer e17 by itself |
| 17:15.33 | sontek | Zelut: once you get used it its amazing |
| 17:15.58 | Zelut | it does look pretty cool but there are some things I'm 'missing' that I'v started to rely on |
| 17:16.26 | sontek | I found an e17 network manager :P |
| 17:16.37 | Zelut | like network manager, the system-monitor applet, etc.. I just need to find where/how to incorporate those and I might enjoy it. |
| 17:17.45 | sontek | Zelut: for system monitoring use gkrellm |
| 17:17.53 | Zelut | looks like the 'run command' tool is sweet |
| 17:18.35 | Zelut | sontek: if gkrellm isn't one of the modules I built I assume I need to do that? |
| 17:19.20 | sontek | Zelut: gkrellm isn't part of enlightenment, it just fits well with it |
| 17:19.25 | sontek | its probably in apt |
| 17:19.40 | sontek | enm looks like it'd solve your network manager problem: http://watchwolf.fr/index.php?post/2007/03/18/%5BE17-Network-manager%5D-Pesentation |
| 17:19.58 | sontek | or you could use something like wicd, you wouldn't have the pretty icon, but you'd have a gui for wireless |
| 17:20.39 | Zelut | maybe I'll ween myself into this by running it on gnome for now :) |
| 17:22.42 | Zelut | can you tell me how to do that? does it basically replace metacity with e17? |
| 17:23.13 | sontek | Zelut: go into gnome and just type enlightenment & |
| 17:23.18 | Zelut | ok |
| 17:23.19 | Zelut | brb |
| 17:23.25 | sontek | Zelut: you can also add it into your .xinitrc to launch after gnomme has |
| 17:25.45 | Zelut | ok I launched 'enlightenment_start &' but I don't see any difference |
| 17:26.53 | Zelut | ,--8<- |
| 17:26.53 | Zelut | |<<<< Enlightenment Error >>>> |
| 17:26.53 | Zelut | |Enlightenment set up window management for all the screens on your system |
| 17:26.53 | Zelut | |failed. Perhaps another window manager is running? |
| 17:26.53 | Zelut | `-->8- |
| 17:27.20 | Zelut | ,--8<- |
| 17:27.20 | Zelut | |<<<< Enlightenment Error >>>> |
| 17:27.20 | Zelut | |Cannot create manager object for screen 0 |
| 17:27.20 | Zelut | `-->8- |
| 17:29.44 | sontek | i'm not sure what enlightenment_start does |
| 17:29.52 | sontek | just type enlightenment --replace |
| 17:30.50 | sontek | unless they changed how it works now |
| 17:31.15 | Zelut | when I tried enlightenment it told me not to run it directly but to use enlightenment start |
| 17:31.52 | Zelut | --replace gives the same errors |
| 17:32.37 | sontek | try killing metacity and then running it |
| 17:35.02 | Zelut | nope |
| 17:36.37 | sontek | give me a little bit to compile it and i'll see whats going on |
| 17:36.57 | Zelut | I'm following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E17+cvs |
| 17:39.19 | sontek | there used to be a repo from enlightenment that worked in Ubuntu |
| 17:39.37 | sontek | but running from cvs should work too |
| 17:42.25 | sontek | i'm emerging it now |
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| 18:17.42 | Zelut | still emerging? :) |
| 18:29.16 | Zelut | atoponce: here is a trust question. |
| 18:30.28 | Zelut | atoponce: if someone has seen my ID and signed my key and I then import the same key that was used to sign mine do you think that is valid to verify the key belongs to the user? |
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| 19:16.31 | tonedevf | How does one *really* get rid of tooltips? |
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| 20:12.13 | sontek | Zelut: sorry, we went out to lunch and then I had to take katie to work |
| 20:12.19 | sontek | Zelut: but running e17 on gnome works fine for me |
| 20:19.31 | herlo | sontek: I'm getting ready to setup and install pylon so we can start working on IRIS |
| 20:22.43 | sontek | herlo: Get us mercurial, postgres, and trac |
| 20:24.30 | herlo | sontek: k, I'll work on that. I've got about 5hrs before my flight. Probably need to eat lunch in 30-40 mins... |
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| 22:09.27 | atoponce | tonedevf: switch to fluxbox |
| 22:09.28 | atoponce | :) |
| 22:09.48 | atoponce | Zelut: i don't understand the question |
| 22:10.11 | tonedevf | : ) |
| 22:10.51 | atoponce | i *hate* the tooltip in ubuntu gnome sayning "Switch between workspaces" |
| 22:10.57 | atoponce | talk about annoying |
| 22:11.35 | tonedevf | indeed |
| 22:12.04 | atoponce | and i have searched high and low to figure out how to disable it, and nothing |
| 22:12.29 | tonedevf | what window manager do you use , atoponce? |
| 22:12.47 | atoponce | gnome for the most part, but fluxbox some of the time, actually |
| 22:13.11 | atoponce | i'd like to try e17, but i haven't gotten around to getting it installed |
| 22:14.11 | tonedevf | is that bundled in sabayon live cd? i know it has a bunch of window managers included |
| 22:14.22 | atoponce | don't know |
| 22:15.45 | atoponce | i'm debating putting debian sid on my new thinkpad |
| 22:16.33 | herlo | atoponce: don't do it! |
| 22:16.43 | herlo | atoponce: which Thinkpad did you get? |
| 22:16.48 | atoponce | t61 |
| 22:16.56 | herlo | p? |
| 22:17.20 | Gate | :) I should put a local repository mirror at home. I just apt-get'd a good gig of software in 2 minutes. |
| 22:17.39 | atoponce | no. the p wasn't available when i ordered it |
| 22:18.59 | heartsbane | atoponce: can I ask why? |
| 22:19.09 | atoponce | heartsbane: sure |
| 22:19.37 | heartsbane | atoponce: okay why do want to put debian sid on your new thinkpad? |
| 22:21.14 | atoponce | heartsbane: because according to thinkwiki, there are less headaches getting sid installed than feisty |
| 22:21.26 | herlo | atoponce: I think you'll have very little problems with it save your wireless drivers |
| 22:21.40 | herlo | atoponce: thinkwiki is a great resource |
| 22:21.47 | atoponce | and, i'd like to give it another round, actually. now that i've discovered seamonkey, i don't really have any gripes about it |
| 22:21.54 | atoponce | herlo: yeah. it's rock solid |
| 22:21.55 | herlo | atoponce: which wireless do you have? is it the pre-n stuff? |
| 22:22.06 | atoponce | at home, or on the new lappy? |
| 22:22.10 | herlo | new? |
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| 22:23.54 | atoponce | wireless at home? or wireless on the t61? |
| 22:24.01 | atoponce | here. i'll answer both |
| 22:24.06 | herlo | atoponce: so I'm confused. I was wondering if it came with the pre-n stuff. Clearly its about the laptop |
| 22:24.12 | atoponce | home: g. t61: n. herc: g |
| 22:24.31 | herlo | atoponce: I don't care if you have g at home, I just wondered if the new lappy had it |
| 22:24.42 | herlo | pre-n, that is |
| 22:24.43 | atoponce | yeah. the new lappy has a/b/g/n |
| 22:25.01 | herlo | atoponce: thus my question. We weren't talking about your home, so how did that get in there? |
| 22:25.18 | atoponce | 16:21 < herlo> atoponce: which wireless do you have? is it the pre-n stuff? |
| 22:25.38 | herlo | atoponce: herlo> atoponce: I think you'll have very little problems with it save your wireless drivers |
| 22:25.41 | atoponce | i don't have the lappy yet, and seeing as though the question implies ownership, i assumed you meant my home |
| 22:25.42 | herlo | 16:12 < herlo> atoponce: thinkwiki is a great resource |
| 22:26.02 | herlo | atoponce: thought you already had it, now I see where the confusion came from |
| 22:26.06 | herlo | as in hte lappy |
| 22:26.07 | atoponce | ah hah. :) |
| 22:26.13 | atoponce | nope. don't have it yet |
| 22:26.21 | atoponce | just ordered it thu night |
| 22:27.44 | herlo | atoponce: how long? |
| 22:28.19 | atoponce | the estimated ship date says the 28th, but i'm willing to bet it will be here late this week, or early next |
| 22:29.21 | herlo | atoponce: it took longer than I wanted to get mine, but it was here a couple days before they said it would be. Remember its coming from china so must pass through customs |
| 22:30.05 | atoponce | yeah |
| 22:30.21 | atoponce | i paid the extra $50 for shipping, however, so i expect it to be on the boat tomorrow |
| 22:30.22 | Yorokobi | heh, if it is properly labeled it won't be in customs more than 2 days. Even from China. |
| 22:33.03 | atoponce | the ceo is coming from new york to visit us on the 27 through the 31, so i'd like to have it by then |
| 22:42.01 | sontek | Do you have the option of getting intel graphics with the thinkpads? Or is it nvidia/ati only? |
| 22:42.20 | sontek | When I bought my dell it was the only one I could get intel with |
| 22:43.46 | atoponce | yeah. i got an intel graphics |
| 22:43.58 | atoponce | i preferred it that way, actually |
| 22:45.22 | sontek | nice |
| 22:45.42 | sontek | yeah, I prefer intels graphic chipset over ati and nvidias |
| 22:46.07 | atoponce | i'm stoked. it'll be like christmas! :) |
| 22:48.17 | tonedevf | why intel over ati/nvidia? |
| 22:49.47 | sontek | tonedevf: They've always had great resolution support, they usually use less power (ie. more battery life), and their linux drivers are open source |
| 22:50.19 | tonedevf | interesting |
| 22:51.32 | tonedevf | but on the laptop, i only run linux inside VMWare. |
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