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04:28.52 | Armadillio | Anyone there? Preferably using Xubuntu? |
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04:37.08 | Hearts|laptop | I think peno is running Xubuntu but I guess you left |
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05:17.43 | heartsbane | atoponce: ping |
05:31.19 | Zelut | evening |
05:31.57 | herlo | Zelut: evening |
05:41.52 | Zelut | herlo: made some big changes to folding tonite. still have some work to do but I think its really maturing well. |
05:42.37 | Zelut | herlo: I think I need to overhaul the deployment function. ip neigh show doesn't scale outside the classroom I don't think. I need something that will detect available machines on a LAN and offer selective choice on where it'll end up. |
05:42.59 | Zelut | herlo: that'll probably have to be for 0.6 or something because I'm not ready for that yet. That'll take some testing. |
05:48.41 | herlo | ip neigh show will do it for the lan, but are you considering all machines across multiple switches? |
05:48.57 | herlo | Zelut: I saw the article on UTOSP. That's great! |
05:50.23 | Zelut | herlo: I found that ip neigh show only seems to display machines that it has recently connected to / knows about. |
05:59.14 | herlo | Zelut: I think you might need to run ip neigh flush (or something like htat) first |
05:59.37 | Zelut | I'll test it out, but that is on my list for the next revision. |
05:59.51 | Zelut | after a few more of these cleanups I'm working with a packager to get this into a .deb |
06:00.00 | herlo | nice |
06:00.07 | Zelut | it'll be tight one day when we can aptitude / yum install folding :) |
06:00.18 | SorenStoutner | If you don't mind me asking, what's folding? |
06:00.18 | herlo | Zelut: that'd be cool |
06:00.27 | SorenStoutner | Is it related to Folding@Home? |
06:00.32 | herlo | SorenStoutner: yes |
06:00.47 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: yes. I wrote an installer for Linux clients. |
06:00.56 | SorenStoutner | Cool. |
06:01.11 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/01/folding-v041-shanghai-release/ |
06:01.13 | herlo | Zelut: btw, are you planning on brining tons of Ubuntu CDs to the conference for us? |
06:01.26 | herlo | s/ini/ingi/g |
06:01.29 | Zelut | herlo: I don't have *tons* but I'm bringing everything I have. |
06:01.38 | herlo | Zelut: how many is what you have? |
06:01.42 | SorenStoutner | I thought they already had an installer, but maybe that was just the source code. |
06:01.45 | Zelut | herlo: I'd have to go count.. not sure. |
06:01.46 | herlo | gnight heartsbane |
06:01.58 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: they offer a .exe file is all |
06:01.58 | herlo | Zelut: well, I'm just curious if its more than 50 of each |
06:02.04 | SorenStoutner | I installed it on a Debian box a few years back. |
06:02.17 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: with my installer it runs as a confined system user, in /var/folding and also provides an init script |
06:02.25 | SorenStoutner | That's cool. |
06:02.36 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: the default .exe doesn't provide any of those |
06:02.42 | SorenStoutner | It's been so long I can't remember the details of how it ran in linux. |
06:03.11 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: the reason I wrote it is because it'd run as my user, in my home folder and I would have to manually start it. |
06:03.34 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: so I started adding little improvemnts and here I am nearly maintaining a project--didn't start out to do that :) |
06:04.11 | heartsbane | Zelut: but your still having fun with it right? |
06:04.16 | Zelut | might want to wait until monday though. I should have 0.5 released then (although 0.4.1 is perfectly stable). |
06:04.26 | Zelut | heartsbane: ohh yeah, its my baby now. |
06:04.36 | SorenStoutner | Zelut: Does upstream accept your revisions, or are you maintaining it separately? |
06:04.41 | Zelut | heartsbane: i'll be way happy when its in debian though :) |
06:05.13 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: all mine does is automate / improve the installation so it doesn't affect the core client--there isn't really anything to push upstream. |
06:05.26 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: it is listed at the folding forums, but that is about as upstream as I think it gets.. |
06:05.27 | SorenStoutner | Zelut: Ahhh. |
06:05.43 | heartsbane | Zelut: you know with everything little thing I add to my list, I seem to run into a new question with more items for my list. I need to ask some questions about SSH expect a email |
06:06.04 | Zelut | SorenStoutner: once you've run my installer you could safely get rid of all my files and the client runs as if you'd downloaded it from Stanford. |
06:06.11 | heartsbane | I been awake since 4AM night all |
06:07.01 | herlo | Zelut: heartsbane doesn't detach, he's part of the matrix now |
06:07.03 | Zelut | herlo: I don't think any of the machines in my classroom last week finished any work units before I left. |
06:12.16 | herlo | Zelut: that suX0rs |
06:13.30 | Zelut | ohh well |
06:13.50 | Zelut | I was just trying to think of a codename for this new release. |
06:13.59 | Zelut | maybe the "utosc" release? |
06:16.55 | herlo | Zelut: sure, works for me |
06:38.17 | Zelut | nite |
06:46.07 | sontek | call them costu |
06:46.22 | sontek | or tusco |
06:46.32 | sontek | scout? |
06:59.21 | atoponce | heartsbane: pong |
07:02.58 | herlo | sontek: nice anagram |
07:09.00 | sontek | herlo: I try my best |
07:10.38 | herlo | sontek: :) |
07:20.47 | sontek | so the badge holders and lanyards arrived in SLC lastnight, but they didn't deliver them today |
07:20.54 | sontek | so now we have to wait until Tuesday |
07:20.57 | sontek | damn holidays |
07:24.22 | herlo | sontek: damn it! We need those today! |
07:24.42 | herlo | :0-) |
07:29.27 | sontek | we should kill all holidays |
07:29.34 | sontek | they just waste time! |
07:29.47 | sontek | but I gotta go to sleep |
07:29.55 | herlo | sontek: haha |
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15:40.20 | heartsbane | atoponce: ping |
15:41.13 | heartsbane | Bah I will just send a e-mail IRC tag is almost as bad as voicemail :) |
15:43.06 | Zelut | heartsbane: correctomundo |
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16:10.04 | clutchpc | anyone know how gutsy looks? |
16:10.38 | herlo | clutchpc: Zelut does |
16:11.00 | herlo | clutchpc: ubuntu-tutorials.com has some stuff a few posts back |
16:11.26 | clutchpc | herlo: cool |
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16:21.20 | atoponce | heartsbane: pong |
16:21.23 | atoponce | Hearts|laptop: pong |
16:24.29 | Hearts|laptop | hahaha, just as I watching 'This week' typing a e-mail |
16:25.42 | Hearts|laptop | I was looking at some things on my list, cause I was talking to Zelut and added a SSH project |
16:26.15 | Hearts|laptop | atoponce: does your 'connecthome' script require a proxy for SSH tunnelling? |
16:26.36 | atoponce | yes |
16:26.41 | atoponce | it requires squid |
16:27.01 | atoponce | however, you can use -D which works just as well |
16:27.30 | Hearts|laptop | is that a requirement you set, or it is necessary.. ah... |
16:27.43 | Hearts|laptop | atoponce: ready for part 2? |
16:27.47 | atoponce | sure |
16:28.37 | Hearts|laptop | atoponce: if I compiled Pidgin from source how do update it? |
16:28.55 | Hearts|laptop | I remember you asking a similar debian question Thursday |
16:29.34 | Hearts|laptop | is there a way to tell aptitude (please point me to a URL, so I can it for myself) |
16:29.39 | atoponce | does pidgin have automatic update handling? if not, just re-download the source, and reinstall i guess |
16:29.52 | Hearts|laptop | hmmm... k |
16:30.22 | atoponce | if using apt, then your stuck with the version that the release has. apt won't update something for you if you grabbed it from source |
16:30.37 | Zelut | ohh everyone is awake now ehh |
16:31.11 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: I would like to finish this coffee and watch my Sunday news before I answer than |
16:31.17 | Hearts|laptop | s/than/that/ |
16:31.39 | atoponce | ~coffee Hearts|laptop |
16:31.40 | jbot | ACTION steals some of mrpull-x's special coffee and gives it to Hearts|laptop on a silver platter. |
16:32.21 | Hearts|laptop | ew.... you can really smell the caffeine |
16:32.23 | atoponce | Zelut: NetworkManager is evil i've decided |
16:32.36 | Zelut | can't believe this: There are currently 407 posts and 2,093 comments, contained within 33 categories. |
16:32.50 | Zelut | atoponce: you know I blame all of your troubles on debian, right? |
16:32.55 | atoponce | ifupdown has much better conrol over the interface than NetworkManager does |
16:33.06 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: why can't you believe that? |
16:33.29 | atoponce | There are currently 329 posts and 1,608 comments, contained within 32 categories. |
16:33.35 | Zelut | Hearts|laptop: seems like yesterday I just started writing these tutorials. It's been more than a year now. |
16:33.53 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: time flies when your having fun |
16:35.11 | Zelut | ok.. what can I blog about today? |
16:35.24 | Hearts|laptop | Security |
16:35.39 | Zelut | herlo: Hearts|laptop that's a pretty broad topic |
16:36.05 | Hearts|laptop | :) you better start typing ... |
16:36.18 | Hearts|laptop | hehehe |
16:37.39 | Hearts|laptop | I think Aaron really cover'd XMPP to death, I need to get pidgin running it that is my new project, and running SSH tunnelling only 3 item on my list |
16:37.59 | Hearts|laptop | and those are 2 of them |
16:38.14 | peno | Hearts|laptop: isn't installing Vista on your list? |
16:38.14 | Hearts|laptop | OH Zelut, how about TCPwrappers |
16:38.45 | Hearts|laptop | peno: you know I know where you will be around 3:30 |
16:39.02 | peno | Hearts|laptop: yep. in the dead body storage. |
16:39.15 | Hearts|laptop | hehehe |
16:40.59 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: tcpwrappers would be my suggestion |
16:43.24 | Zelut | like a general what is compatible? how to use hosts.allow|deny? |
16:44.09 | Zelut | Hearts|laptop: what do you want to know about ssh tunneling? |
16:45.17 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: sorry I speak from me wanting to learn something, but hosts.allow|deny seems pretty straight forward I don't know I just know its on my list, sorry realise I am selfish with my suggestion |
16:45.43 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: I just find it fun to learn something sitting with laptop in the living room.. |
16:45.49 | Zelut | I suppose I haven't covered it before so it can't hurt.. |
16:46.09 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: I suppose What is compatible |
16:46.29 | peno | Hearts|laptop: your needs don't trump everyone else's. :) |
16:46.48 | Zelut | peno: he likes to think so though |
16:47.00 | Hearts|laptop | hehehehe |
16:47.02 | peno | Zelut: I know. :) |
16:47.29 | Zelut | Hearts|laptop: if you want to see if a service is tcpwrapper compatible do: ldd /path/to/binary | grep libwrap |
16:47.40 | Hearts|laptop | That is not nice :(, it is funny :) |
16:47.56 | Zelut | Hearts|laptop: if the binary uses libwrap.so as a linked library it is tcpwrapper compatible. if not, tcpwrappers has no effect. |
16:48.11 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: okay |
16:48.19 | peno | Hearts|laptop: you bringing b33r today? |
16:49.03 | Hearts|laptop | I was thinking of doing something like that around 3:30, you choose I either bring beer or something else |
16:49.05 | Zelut | Hearts|laptop: I'll go ahead and blog something on the topic, but it sounds like that'll get you in troub--going. :) |
16:49.11 | Hearts|laptop | just let me know |
16:49.43 | peno | Hearts|laptop: either way. just trying to decide if I should get some ice for the cooler. |
16:49.55 | Hearts|laptop | Zelut: peno has been a bad influence on you... |
16:50.26 | Zelut | that movie should have been titled "Bad Ass" |
16:50.31 | peno | Hearts|laptop: Just remember who pointed you towards linux. |
16:50.52 | Zelut | peno: and just remember who has to hold his hand the whole time now! |
16:51.01 | peno | Zelut: yep, you! :) |
16:51.02 | Hearts|laptop | :( |
16:51.43 | peno | <PROTECTED> |
16:51.52 | peno | :) |
16:53.16 | peno | my job is done. |
16:53.46 | herlo | peno: we've been trying for months to get rid of him. How come you can do it so easily :) |
16:53.55 | peno | herlo: it's a skill. |
16:54.17 | herlo | Hearts|laptop: we don't *really* want you to go. |
16:54.17 | peno | herlo: it takes many years of practice and study. |
16:54.21 | herlo | peno: I'd say |
16:54.31 | herlo | He must have really left :( |
16:54.32 | peno | Hearts|laptop: you can stay, just bring beer. |
16:54.44 | herlo | peno++ |
16:54.49 | peno | he's probably stepped out for a cancer stick. |
16:54.51 | herlo | Hearts|laptop++ if he brings beer |
17:01.51 | Zelut | herlo: what is the valid ipv6 syntax for hosts.allow? I can't ever remember.. do you use the brackets but drop the subnet? |
17:02.07 | Zelut | herlo: ie; [::1] is valid but ::1/128 is not? |
17:13.59 | herlo | Zelut: uh, got me |
17:14.17 | herlo | Zelut: probably [::1/128] but that's really redundant |
17:16.19 | clutchpc | Zelut: how do you like gutsy? |
17:16.20 | Zelut | I'm thinking about calling xmission to get an ipv6 address and setup an apache easter egg |
17:22.34 | Zelut | Hearts|laptop: published. |
17:22.51 | Zelut | clutchpc: I like it. running it on all my desktops now |
17:23.12 | Zelut | clutchpc: been pretty solid so far. no show-stoppers on my end. |
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17:40.53 | atoponce | herlo: ping |
17:46.14 | atoponce | herlo: when you get around, i'm curious as to where the utos images are, so i can design an appropriate s5 theme |
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17:50.35 | Zelut | I think I'm going to play with wireshark today and get into some trouble |
17:53.04 | atoponce | Zelut: network manager is evil. that's all there is to it |
17:53.53 | Zelut | atoponce: works fine for the rest of us not using Debian :) |
17:54.20 | atoponce | sure. works fine. but why settle for 'fine' when you can have _total_ control? :) |
17:55.35 | Zelut | i'm not aware of what control i'm losing with network manager |
17:58.14 | atoponce | Zelut: check out this wlan0 foo: http://pastebin.ca/679121 |
18:00.02 | Zelut | looks like location profiles |
18:00.47 | atoponce | yeah. then the regular 'ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0' works like magic |
18:01.09 | atoponce | as well as setting the ip foo etc |
18:02.04 | Zelut | networkmanager supports profiles too |
18:03.50 | Zelut | what version of network manager do you have? |
18:04.38 | atoponce | Version: 0.6.4-8 |
18:06.52 | Zelut | 0.6.5 nm-applet here. |
18:07.16 | Zelut | it just always works great for me so it seems weird that you have so much trouble |
18:07.43 | atoponce | i don't have really that much trouble. it's my intel driver over network manager |
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18:10.38 | Zelut | after sorting through the wireshark output there is my username and password. damn. |
18:10.47 | Zelut | (trying things out without a tunnel, of course) |
18:11.10 | Zelut | my only problem is being able to find that data more easily. only reason I found it was because I knew what to look for.. |
18:13.24 | Zelut | there has got to be an easier way to do it than manually sorting through the TONS of output |
18:14.04 | atoponce | tcp/ip dump |
18:14.24 | atoponce | of course, you should be setting filters rather than grabbing everything |
18:14.37 | atoponce | then dump that data. pretty easy to sort thruogh from there |
18:17.02 | Zelut | i guess I'm not familiar with the filters to know what to look for yet. |
18:19.47 | atoponce | what are you trying to capture? |
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18:22.01 | Zelut | usernames/passwords |
18:22.26 | Zelut | trying to get more familiar for where to look in the capture for that data.. or use filters to help find it. |
18:22.37 | atoponce | from what though? ftp? http? xmmp? |
18:22.39 | Zelut | so far I've logged into two sites and been able to find my information |
18:22.41 | Zelut | http |
18:22.48 | atoponce | then filter http |
18:23.42 | Zelut | so far it looks like if there is "Reassembled TCP" it'll be in there. |
18:24.15 | Zelut | can I filter http & POST? |
18:24.40 | atoponce | post is part of http |
18:26.01 | Zelut | right, but can it be more specific? ie; don't show me GET, etc. just http & POST data. |
18:26.21 | atoponce | yeah. you should be able to filter those packets |
18:26.27 | atoponce | not sure how, though |
18:28.10 | Zelut | i think it'd be fun to sniff packets for a day in my network security classes and then on day two post the passwords on the projector. |
18:28.27 | Zelut | not link to usernames or domains, but just list them all. that should get their attention. |
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22:56.24 | tristanbob_ | Zelut: ping |
22:56.35 | tristanbob_ | dsniff |
22:56.46 | Zelut | tristanbob_: dsniff? |
22:56.49 | tristanbob_ | your jaw will drop |
22:58.08 | Zelut | tristanbob_: password sniffer ehh :) |
22:59.21 | tristanbob_ | yupp |
23:00.07 | tristanbob_ | on our university internet connection, we can see dozens of passwords a minute |
23:01.09 | tristanbob_ | you need to mirror traffic or pass traffic through |
23:01.20 | Zelut | tristanbob_: so how do I use dsniff? |
23:07.33 | tristanbob_ | dsniff –c –m |
23:10.33 | Zelut | ...doesn't seem to be catching anything. |
23:13.53 | herlo | atoponce: http://www.utosc.org/downloads/slides |
23:14.02 | tristanbob_ | Zelut: use ftp |
23:14.21 | tristanbob_ | login should be caught |
23:14.30 | tristanbob_ | or http login |
23:14.35 | tristanbob_ | ot smtp |
23:14.40 | tristanbob_ | etc |
23:14.45 | Zelut | tristanbob_: I just did an http login but nothing came up. |
23:15.03 | Zelut | tristanbob_: and I don't have ftp access to anything since its such a worthlessly insecure protocol. |
23:15.11 | tristanbob_ | :) |
23:15.40 | Zelut | tristanbob_: i should just see passwords in stdout after using dsniff -c -m -i eth1 ? |
23:17.14 | tristanbob_ | yup - best on a mirrored port |
23:18.00 | Zelut | tristanbob_: i'm sitting here on my laptop via wireless and just logged into two http sites. I see no output. |
23:19.02 | tristanbob_ | eth1 is wireless? |
23:19.26 | atoponce | herlo: can i get just the logo? |
23:20.03 | Zelut | tristanbob_: yes |
23:20.35 | herlo | atoponce: yes, its under http://www.utosc.org/downloads/logos |
23:20.54 | herlo | atoponce: we're looking to put our sponsors wherever we can though... |
23:21.26 | Zelut | tristanbob_: ..also just logged into imap, nothing. I must be doing this wrong. |
23:22.33 | tristanbob_ | hmmm... i don't have anything to test it on right now |
23:25.12 | Zelut | tristanbob_: well you had me all excited for nothing :) |
23:25.21 | tristanbob_ | no - it will work |
23:25.26 | tristanbob_ | I have seen it |
23:25.51 | tristanbob_ | I'll talk to our security admin on Tuesday |
23:29.00 | Zelut | tristanbob_: You'll notice that dsniff waits until a connection terminates before it outputs its information |
23:29.23 | Zelut | tristanbob_: I'm not seeing any output and finally ctrl-c so I guess nothing is being grabbed? |
23:29.26 | tristanbob_ | so you see it? |
23:29.50 | Zelut | tristanbob_: still haven't seen anything, but just read that online.. |
23:31.54 | atoponce | herlo: i don't need to plaster my theme with sponsor logos do i? |
23:32.44 | Zelut | tristanbob_: ...i've run it, login and then cut all other www connections. still not seeing anything. |
23:32.54 | Zelut | atoponce: think of it like nascar |
23:37.52 | atoponce | meh |
23:38.04 | atoponce | in that case, i'll just stick with my ubuntu theme |
23:40.08 | herlo | atoponce: no... |
23:40.14 | herlo | atoponce: its fine if you don't |
23:40.41 | herlo | atoponce: we just want to help the sponsors. They're footing the bill for the conference and for much of what we'll be able to do next eyar |
23:40.44 | herlo | ear |
23:40.45 | herlo | holy crap! |
23:40.48 | herlo | year |
23:41.39 | atoponce | ~type herlo |
23:42.31 | herlo | ~smack herlo |
23:42.31 | jbot | ACTION smacks herlo upside the head. |
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23:50.26 | ubuntu09 | can anyone help me with a hard drve install with no cd? |
23:52.50 | atoponce | ubuntu09: the computer doesn't have a cd drive? |
23:53.17 | ubuntu09 | it does but im trying to learn how to do it. |
23:53.32 | ubuntu09 | when i boot it says no cd mounted |
23:53.43 | ubuntu09 | i followed the tutorial |
23:53.59 | ubuntu09 | i put the iso file in the windows root directory |
23:54.28 | ubuntu09 | along with a c:\boot folder containing initrd and vmlinuz and a grub folder |
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23:55.54 | atoponce | ubuntu09: you downloaded the iso. did you burn a cd from it? |
23:56.04 | ubuntu09 | no |
23:56.11 | ubuntu09 | dont need the cd |
23:57.00 | clutchpc | I may have become retarded during my time away.... I have created a new VM for gutsy but I can't figure out how to install gutsy on it from my live-cd |
23:57.38 | atoponce | ubuntu09: are you installing this in a virt machine, or as a host os on the hdd? |
23:57.59 | ubuntu09 | host |
23:58.08 | ubuntu09 | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html |
23:58.09 | atoponce | then why don't you need to burn a cd? |
23:59.08 | ubuntu09 | cause u can do it without a cd |
23:59.15 | ubuntu09 | using the iso |
23:59.47 | atoponce | ubuntu09: well, if i were you, it's 10x easier with the cd. i'm not familiar doing it without it |