| 00:08.27 | sontek | Heartsbane: ping |
| 00:10.02 | Heartsbane | sontek: pong |
| 00:11.30 | herlo | atoponce: ping |
| 00:16.33 | Heartsbane | sontek: hehehe whoops |
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| 00:23.50 | thenetduck | I don't think Nue Mont is the place for me |
| 00:24.02 | sontek | Heartsbane: n00b |
| 00:24.09 | thenetduck | hehe |
| 00:25.17 | Heartsbane | sontek: leprechaun |
| 00:26.09 | thenetduck | don't hate be because i'm beautiful |
| 00:26.48 | thenetduck | hate be because i'm dead sexy ( . Y . ) |
| 00:27.00 | Heartsbane | k |
| 00:27.11 | thenetduck | I shouls make that |
| 00:27.13 | thenetduck | get |
| 00:27.14 | thenetduck | off |
| 00:27.15 | thenetduck | the |
| 00:27.16 | thenetduck | screen |
| 00:27.26 | thenetduck | . |
| 00:27.51 | thenetduck | (this is not spam but a neccessaty) |
| 00:27.53 | thenetduck | . |
| 00:27.57 | Heartsbane | hey |
| 00:27.58 | thenetduck | . |
| 00:28.00 | thenetduck | . |
| 00:28.07 | Heartsbane | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.11 | thenetduck | It needs to be done.... |
| 00:28.21 | thenetduck | :) |
| 00:28.26 | thenetduck | I love commands |
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| 00:28.46 | Heartsbane | sontek: get back on jabber h8r |
| 00:33.14 | thenetduck | I head that once microfuff releases the Visual Studios whatever code that it is going to because the standard and mono will go down hill |
| 00:33.18 | thenetduck | does anyone know anything about this? |
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| 00:35.57 | Heartsbane | sontek would but he not here |
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| 00:58.56 | maquis | thenetduck: just in the future, please don't spam like that... just use /clear if you want something off your screen |
| 00:59.07 | maquis | that kind of thing is quite annoying |
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| 01:06.12 | thenetduck | ~clear |
| 01:06.29 | thenetduck | maquis: right toe |
| 01:06.42 | maquis | k |
| 01:43.02 | mheath | thenetduck: Neumont sucks. Don't go there. |
| 01:43.36 | thenetduck | well I checked it out and it was ...errr.. like breading windows programmers |
| 01:43.46 | thenetduck | drag and drop programming :) |
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| 01:45.05 | mheath | thenetduck: Yes. |
| 01:45.27 | mheath | thenetduck: Thats because they're brand new, and were initially entirely funded by Microsoft. |
| 01:45.43 | mheath | thenetduck: Then they proceded to suck so badly that even Microsoft mostly disowned them. |
| 01:46.02 | mheath | thenetduck: So, they changed their name to avoid the bad image they were getting |
| 01:46.24 | thenetduck | lol now that's when you know you've gone downhill.. not even microsoft wants you |
| 01:46.48 | mheath | thenetduck: They're obsessed with the "windows programmers" ideal. The Microsoft .NET Rapid Application Development stuff, where they're not making programmers, they're making 'software engineers'. |
| 01:47.04 | mheath | thenetduck: They care more about corporate sponsorship than superior education |
| 01:47.27 | mheath | thenetduck: And I even had one of their recruiters be stupid and desperate enough to tell me that their school was superior to MIT. |
| 01:47.37 | mheath | I'm not sure he knew what MIT was before answering that question. |
| 01:47.38 | thenetduck | lol |
| 01:47.44 | mheath | thenetduck: How old are you? |
| 01:47.47 | thenetduck | 19 |
| 01:47.57 | mheath | Ah. Not in school already? |
| 01:48.36 | thenetduck | originally going into ECE at BYU Idaho but they dropped that major, couldn't get the correct accreditation it's just Computer engineering now |
| 01:48.52 | thenetduck | no I am, but I wanted to get a BS in CS and ECE |
| 01:49.02 | thenetduck | BYU doesn't let you do that |
| 01:49.08 | thenetduck | they have a 140 credit limit |
| 01:49.09 | mheath | ECE = ? |
| 01:49.15 | mheath | Not sure I've heard that acronym before |
| 01:49.19 | mheath | or maybe I'm just braindead at the moment |
| 01:49.19 | thenetduck | Electrical and Computer Engineering |
| 01:49.32 | mheath | WTF? |
| 01:49.38 | mheath | Stupid hybrid majors like that. |
| 01:49.47 | thenetduck | its a pretty popular major |
| 01:49.48 | findlay | there is no such thing as computer engineering |
| 01:49.57 | mheath | Yeah, I was about to agree with findlay. |
| 01:50.13 | mheath | A) Its a hybrid major, a retarded combination of two things that shouldn't be combined in that manner |
| 01:50.25 | findlay | THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COMPUTER ENGINEERING |
| 01:50.28 | mheath | B) one of the things they're teaching is a fake major, Computer Engineering. |
| 01:50.33 | findlay | there |
| 01:50.53 | mheath | thenetduck: What kind of job do you want? |
| 01:51.19 | thenetduck | I would like to create hardware and would also like to get into some driver development but I want to stay low |
| 01:51.40 | thenetduck | I have been really into hardware though but still like soft stuff .. |
| 01:51.41 | findlay | wait |
| 01:51.49 | findlay | I'd like to retract my previous statement |
| 01:51.56 | findlay | THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOFTWARE ENGINEERING |
| 01:51.58 | findlay | therre |
| 01:52.05 | findlay | sorry |
| 01:52.20 | thenetduck | so you say there is computer engineering but not software engineering? |
| 01:52.22 | Heartsbane | mheath: They changed the name because they had conflict with NorthFace outdoor sporting equipment |
| 01:52.40 | findlay | thenetduck: yeah |
| 01:52.40 | mheath | Heartsbane: I don't care, they still suck. |
| 01:52.57 | Heartsbane | just wanted to get the record straight |
| 01:53.10 | mheath | thenetduck: Ah. ECE might be a desirable degree for that field, I guess. |
| 01:53.19 | findlay | any time you start dealing with software, you're not guaranteed by the same standards as engineering in general |
| 01:53.30 | thenetduck | ECE is slowly becoming a "computer" EE major |
| 01:53.43 | mheath | I know that if I was hiring a hardware design person, I'd rather have a proper Electrical Engineer to do the designing. |
| 01:53.46 | mheath | But, I don't work in that field |
| 01:53.56 | mheath | ANd thus am not qualified to say what someone in that field would really want. |
| 01:54.02 | findlay | I'm just saying that programming is still nowhere near as reliable as engineering |
| 01:54.31 | findlay | thus, software engineering is Not Here Yet |
| 01:55.19 | mheath | findlay: LMAO, Microsoft is trying to convince us that soon we'll be able to just use flow-based abstracted layout programs to 'engineer' our programs in the same way they engineer a car part. |
| 01:55.29 | findlay | sure |
| 01:55.48 | mheath | I'm trying to remember what the term for that design is... |
| 01:56.05 | findlay | surrrrre |
| 01:56.06 | thenetduck | EE and ECE are different though.. for instance, if you want to make a graphics card or a processor / stuff like that they hire an ECE guy but if you want to build radios/car stuff / other stuff the would get an ECE guy |
| 01:56.11 | thenetduck | I mean an EE guy |
| 01:56.15 | mheath | Uh. |
| 01:56.25 | mheath | Someones been telling you stupid stuff. |
| 01:56.42 | mheath | My dad has a degree in Electrical Engineering. |
| 01:56.51 | thenetduck | my teacher has worked at Intel for 10 years.. I just regurgitate his stuff |
| 01:57.07 | mheath | He's responsible for the design of several dozen processing units responsible for the critical operation of several sattelites. |
| 01:57.15 | mheath | Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking motors |
| 01:57.26 | mheath | I'm talking circuit boards. |
| 01:57.31 | mheath | Things that do computation. |
| 01:57.34 | thenetduck | but how old is your dad? |
| 01:57.53 | mheath | thenetduck: Older :) |
| 01:58.15 | thenetduck | point being, the hole concept of "engineering a computer" might have not really been popular ? |
| 01:58.22 | thenetduck | thus not a real need |
| 01:58.29 | thenetduck | so they kept all electronics into EE |
| 01:58.35 | findlay | if you're trying to make implications between engineering and programming which seems far less than most want to insinuate then you're wrong right away at least because of the complexity of software whereas engineering can be derived from a basis of well known/understood physical models |
| 01:59.32 | mheath | thenetduck: Hold on, I want to find an ECE course list.. |
| 01:59.40 | thenetduck | kk |
| 02:00.27 | thenetduck | I think I found a solution to why it is called ECE now |
| 02:00.51 | thenetduck | Because so many people were getting double majors in EE and CS they comboed it |
| 02:00.53 | thenetduck | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_and_Computer_Engineering |
| 02:01.12 | mheath | thenetduck: Thats the thing, though, you can't just combine it |
| 02:01.13 | thenetduck | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak |
| 02:01.17 | mheath | They're each 4 year degrees |
| 02:01.20 | mheath | 4 + 4 != 4. |
| 02:01.33 | mheath | I know, theres generals and that crap |
| 02:01.38 | mheath | But it still doesn't add up. |
| 02:01.40 | mheath | They cut something out. |
| 02:01.46 | mheath | Which is why hybrids like that are bad. |
| 02:01.51 | thenetduck | (4 + 4)/2 == 4 |
| 02:02.07 | mheath | thenetduck: At least they include a math course in ECE, I see :) |
| 02:02.15 | mheath | Are you implying they're covering half the stuff they would? |
| 02:02.21 | mheath | You get Half a CS degree, and Half a EE degree? |
| 02:02.40 | thenetduck | hum... |
| 02:02.48 | thenetduck | no because looks at this |
| 02:02.59 | thenetduck | you can get an ECE Major and a CS Major |
| 02:03.08 | thenetduck | you just need a couple more courses to get the CS |
| 02:03.18 | thenetduck | I think 2.... |
| 02:03.21 | mheath | Which school is this? |
| 02:03.24 | thenetduck | BYUI |
| 02:03.44 | thenetduck | they are a 4 year univesity before you tear them apart :) |
| 02:03.48 | thenetduck | university |
| 02:03.54 | sontek | If you are looking to do software development (web 2.0 type crap) and not wanting to get into a lot of math/theory, Neumont is the way to go |
| 02:04.06 | mheath | thenetduck: I know. Its a decent school. I know several people who go there. |
| 02:04.08 | sontek | they'll get you out in 2 years, with the ability to develop with .net, java, and python |
| 02:04.12 | sontek | along with a full portfolio |
| 02:04.55 | mheath | I dunno, these hybrid degrees just annoy me |
| 02:05.03 | mheath | Especially the ____ technology degrees. |
| 02:05.17 | sontek | Hybrid? |
| 02:05.38 | thenetduck | sontek: ECE == Electrical and Computer Engineering |
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| 02:05.50 | thenetduck | instead of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science |
| 02:06.07 | mheath | thenetduck: We were talking about "Electrical and Computer Engineering" degree vs. EE or CS, |
| 02:06.17 | thenetduck | vs EE |
| 02:06.23 | thenetduck | I like hard ware a bit more :) |
| 02:06.27 | sontek | it just depends what you are interested in |
| 02:06.58 | thenetduck | BTW if you find an FM radio kit online for sale somewhere while surfing the web.. send me the link |
| 02:07.05 | mheath | thenetduck: erm, I meant to address that to sontek. :) |
| 02:07.28 | mheath | thenetduck: They're jokes now. |
| 02:07.39 | mheath | No modern company makes a decent electronics kit. |
| 02:07.44 | thenetduck | bah . |
| 02:07.50 | mheath | I found a radio kit at Radio Shack once |
| 02:07.56 | thenetduck | lol |
| 02:08.01 | thenetduck | I am sure that went well |
| 02:08.07 | mheath | It was essentially "plug together a bunch of preassembled modules and screw them into the plastic case" |
| 02:08.21 | thenetduck | check out this tutorial I found |
| 02:08.22 | mheath | thenetduck: Search ebay for used but unbuilt "heathkit" kits (no relation). |
| 02:08.41 | thenetduck | http://www.somerset.net/arm/fm_only_one_transistor_radio.html |
| 02:08.45 | mheath | Those they are a bit of a collectors item now and may be more than you're looking to spend. |
| 02:08.47 | thenetduck | I was thinking about it |
| 02:09.22 | thenetduck | I would just have to buy parts... |
| 02:10.52 | mheath | thenetduck: Radioshack carries 75% of the stuff ont he left one at a decent store. |
| 02:11.04 | thenetduck | I think ECE might teach you how to mesh CS and EE better than learning one then learning the other |
| 02:11.30 | mheath | thenetduck: I'd guess they could special order the other 25%, too, assuming you used a generic drilled-hold breadboard and not a home-etched board like he appears to be using |
| 02:11.53 | mheath | I hate those earplugs like the one in the left :P |
| 02:12.05 | thenetduck | hum dinger |
| 02:12.34 | thenetduck | mheath: what are you into? hardware or soft more? |
| 02:13.19 | mheath | I do a lot of programming, though I guess my formal education (still in progress, too) would be more 'hardware'. |
| 02:13.48 | thenetduck | You did EE? |
| 02:13.56 | mheath | thenetduck: Working on EE. |
| 02:14.22 | mheath | thenetduck: Then working on Nuclear Engineering with an emphasis on ICE. |
| 02:14.29 | thenetduck | I was thinking of Woziacing it and doing an EE and CS ... well now that I think of it |
| 02:14.34 | thenetduck | lot of school though |
| 02:14.44 | thenetduck | thats like a 7 years batch |
| 02:15.17 | thenetduck | blast |
| 02:15.21 | thenetduck | I have to go peace out |
| 02:15.29 | mheath | thenetduck: Have a good night. |
| 02:18.46 | mheath | Battery free, and - omg - NO transistors! ;-) |
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| 02:34.10 | mheath | maquis: Then it's not really the big blue room, then, I guess. |
| 02:35.33 | atoponce | herlo: pong |
| 02:43.31 | maquis | mheath: true |
| 02:44.59 | mheath | Wow, I just found a nasty bug in Open Office |
| 02:45.15 | mheath | Opening and closing several Impress documents in succession.... |
| 02:45.52 | mheath | The thumbnails of the slides now still show old slides, despite the fact that a new file is loaded. Clicking on the old thumbnails still shows the correct (new) slides... |
| 03:25.05 | herlo | atoponce: gotta question for you about a former job you did |
| 03:25.57 | Zelut | herlo: we got in the courtyard marriot this week. this is much nicer than the last place I was. |
| 03:26.16 | herlo | Zelut: courtyard's are very nie |
| 03:26.22 | herlo | s/nie/nice/g |
| 03:26.50 | herlo | atoponce: when you worked for the survey firm, did you ever do surveys on growth of tech in Utah? |
| 03:26.53 | Zelut | herlo: tomorrow morning I have a .7 mile walk somehow carrying 10 books! |
| 03:27.03 | herlo | Zelut: bring Cat along... |
| 03:27.19 | herlo | or roll them in your luggage |
| 03:27.36 | Zelut | I may have to bring my luggage tomorrow to get it all there.. |
| 03:27.45 | herlo | yup, did you check it?> |
| 03:28.06 | Zelut | herlo: no, between our two bags it all fit. |
| 03:28.27 | Zelut | herlo: ohh, and get this. when we bought Cat's tickets we put my delta number on it. We *both* got upgraded hehe |
| 03:29.03 | herlo | Zelut: when you buy tix together, they're supposed to do that |
| 03:29.32 | herlo | as if you'd want to leave your partner during a trip |
| 03:29.36 | herlo | flight |
| 03:30.10 | Zelut | herlo: yeah. was nice to both be in first class |
| 03:31.09 | herlo | Lots of alcohol for you, and mixers for her :) |
| 03:31.19 | herlo | but plenty of room and you get of the plane first |
| 03:31.26 | Zelut | none for me. we're on a deal. while she can't, I can't. |
| 03:31.33 | Zelut | ...because apparently "this is all my fault" |
| 03:31.52 | herlo | haha, its true though |
| 03:32.27 | herlo | Zelut: what!? No going to the bar with me while she sits at home enjoying her bon-bons > |
| 03:32.31 | herlo | ? |
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| 03:33.05 | opapo_ | herlo: sounds like a personal problem to me. |
| 03:33.07 | Zelut | herlo: well I made some exceptions at UDS ;) |
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| 03:36.18 | herlo | opapo_: could be |
| 03:36.26 | herlo | Zelut: yeah, as would have I |
| 03:37.21 | opapo_ | herlo: :) |
| 03:38.36 | herlo | opapo_: how you been anyway? |
| 03:40.10 | opapo_ | herlo: I've been busy with a security breach and multiple side projects |
| 03:40.19 | tgelter | herlo: so I got the centro bound to my laptop...now if only I could figure out how to hotsync the thing |
| 03:40.32 | herlo | tgelter: gnome-pilot didn't work for me |
| 03:40.40 | herlo | but it might for you... |
| 03:40.44 | tgelter | what method did you try? |
| 03:40.45 | tgelter | serial? |
| 03:40.48 | herlo | all |
| 03:41.01 | herlo | usb, serial, defining a custom |
| 03:41.11 | herlo | nothing seemed to work... |
| 03:41.37 | tgelter | hmm |
| 03:41.57 | herlo | opapo_: geez, you've been *busy* man |
| 03:42.10 | herlo | opapo_: sounds like you're enjoying it though... |
| 03:42.10 | tgelter | I don't even know why I'm doing this...I guess cause I'm curious...I certainly don't have any real "reason" why I should want to sync it |
| 03:42.14 | opapo_ | herlo: yeah |
| 03:42.35 | herlo | tgelter: curiousity is why we're in this biz methinks |
| 03:42.44 | opapo_ | herlo: I am writing a security policy and procedure to be followed in the district |
| 03:43.33 | opapo_ | I enjoy this and am free now because I am at a security conference in Richfield |
| 03:44.37 | herlo | opapo_: very nice |
| 03:45.44 | opapo_ | I am only able to go to this because it is in utah |
| 03:45.52 | herlo | true |
| 03:48.56 | opapo_ | I have a problem after upgrading to gutsy |
| 03:49.33 | opapo_ | I updated and upgraded feisty |
| 03:49.56 | opapo_ | then I changed the repositories from feisty to gutsy |
| 03:50.12 | opapo_ | then I did and update and upgrade |
| 03:51.02 | opapo_ | now there are multiple packages that are kept back |
| 03:51.35 | opapo_ | What can I do to get everything up to date? |
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| 03:55.01 | Zelut | opapo_ do a dist-upgrade as well |
| 03:55.16 | Zelut | opapo_: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade ; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 03:57.42 | opapo_ | thanks |
| 04:00.51 | Zelut | and post-gutsy upgrade and dist-upgrade will be deprecated to 'safe-upgrade' and 'full-upgrade' |
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| 04:53.58 | redzion | hello utah team |
| 04:55.14 | Zelut | hello hello |
| 04:56.27 | redzion | I'm new to linux but luv it so far |
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| 05:04.23 | thenetduck | redzion it will change your life! |
| 05:04.37 | thenetduck | if you let it that is... |
| 05:04.39 | undertakingyou | thenetduck: I think that you missed him |
| 05:04.48 | thenetduck | blast.. |
| 05:04.56 | undertakingyou | thenetduck: you are right though. |
| 05:05.14 | undertakingyou | question is: is that a warning or some encouragement? |
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| 05:36.11 | Zelut | nites |
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| 06:09.22 | Gate | undertakingyou: Its a warning to those who know not what is wrong in their lives, ignorance being bliss. |
| 06:09.47 | Gate | then, you learn just how restricted and supressed you are, and Linux is candle in the dark :) |
| 06:22.27 | thenetduck | ya gate you up? |
| 06:23.09 | thenetduck | of course you are you are Gate! |
| 06:23.09 | thenetduck | Gate: you know how to find the length of an array in PHP? |
| 06:25.23 | thenetduck | found it! |
| 06:43.42 | Gate | thenetduck: hi :) |
| 06:43.52 | thenetduck | Gate: hey Gate |
| 06:46.57 | Gate | thenetduck: sizeof or count will work |
| 06:47.12 | Gate | but if you need to use every item in an array, just do a foreach statement |
| 06:47.44 | thenetduck | Gate: you are my hero! |
| 06:48.02 | thenetduck | is it sizeof() or just $array.sizeof |
| 07:05.08 | opapo_ | If I have a 11GB partition, 9.7GB used, 27MB free, 100% Used |
| 07:05.17 | opapo_ | what am I missing? |
| 07:05.30 | opapo_ | where is the extra harddrive space? |
| 07:24.49 | thenetduck | not sure, maybe its all in your swap |
| 07:24.58 | thenetduck | how big is your swap? |
| 07:29.26 | opapo_ | swap is 2GB |
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| 12:46.31 | atoponce | herlo: not really. most of the surveys that venture data did were political. |
| 12:46.52 | atoponce | herlo: there were a few surveys on that sort, like the riaa and mp3s, but they were rare |
| 12:47.35 | atoponce | herlo: usually, this candidate is running for office in some state, and they were calling the state to see how the public was responding to his/her campaign |
| 14:57.32 | herlo | atoponce: okay, tx |
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| 15:33.20 | atoponce | does anyone else have connection issues with gmail imap in thunderbird? |
| 15:33.28 | atoponce | it's really getting under my skin |
| 15:34.57 | undertakingyou | atoponce: what kind of connection issues? |
| 15:35.07 | atoponce | sitting there taking forever to resolve |
| 15:35.11 | atoponce | sometimes, it times out |
| 15:35.32 | atoponce | my connection settings are set correctly, at least according to the help on gmail's site |
| 15:35.42 | undertakingyou | atoponce: when I first set it up it seemed to do that. Now it is fine though. |
| 15:36.13 | atoponce | it's hit and miss, that's for sure. sometimes, it's rock solid, other times, it's spotty as a dalmation |
| 15:36.40 | undertakingyou | atoponce: That is why I like to use evolution more that thunderbird. |
| 15:37.11 | undertakingyou | atoponce: how is the new baby? I keep meaning to ask. |
| 15:38.33 | atoponce | she's adorable |
| 15:38.38 | atoponce | dropshots.com/keriaaron |
| 15:38.53 | atoponce | love her! love her! love her! |
| 15:41.05 | undertakingyou | atoponce: that is cool, I'm excited for you guys |
| 15:41.16 | atoponce | thx |
| 15:41.28 | atoponce | i've been meaning to blog it, but i haven't had the time |
| 15:41.34 | atoponce | there's a lot that i want to blog, actually |
| 15:43.44 | undertakingyou | atoponce: great pics there too. |
| 15:44.11 | atoponce | thx. that's my wife's doing |
| 15:44.17 | atoponce | she's pretty good with the camera |
| 15:44.21 | undertakingyou | I am beginning to get excited about the prospect of being a father mysely |
| 15:44.31 | undertakingyou | s/ely/elf/ |
| 15:44.32 | atoponce | is your wife expecting? |
| 15:44.41 | undertakingyou | atoponce: um . . . |
| 15:45.13 | undertakingyou | atoponce: we are waiting to make any official announcement. |
| 15:46.11 | atoponce | ahh. sorry. :) |
| 15:46.34 | undertakingyou | no worries :) |
| 15:49.55 | atoponce | undertakingyou: well, congrats anyhow! :) |
| 15:52.04 | undertakingyou | atoponce: thx |
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| 16:14.51 | moriancumer | atoponce: cute kid. Are you getting any sleep? |
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| 16:15.55 | kkubasik | mornin all |
| 16:15.56 | moriancumer | undertakingyou: congrats to you and Becky, we are expecting #2 in May |
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| 16:31.34 | undertakingyou | moriancumer: that is cool. Now you have to keep your mouth shut about us. :) |
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| 16:35.23 | moriancumer | undertakingyou: np. not a word. |
| 16:44.39 | undertakingyou | moriancumer: thanks, becky would be really mad that I slipped |
| 16:47.04 | moriancumer | undertakingyou: no worries. It's in the vault. I'm really excited for you guys. Kids are the greatest. I've never been happier. |
| 16:49.17 | maquis | no wonder it keeps burning out |
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| 18:18.16 | findlay-w | ~burnout |
| 18:18.19 | findlay-w | ~burnout maquis |
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| 18:36.27 | maquis | ~burn findlay-w |
| 18:36.28 | jbot | ACTION pours gasoline all over findlay-w, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 18:36.47 | kkubasik | hahhaha |
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| 18:38.01 | maquis | ~lart kkubasik |
| 18:38.01 | jbot | installs a bad bootloader on kkubasik and turns kkubasik into a brick |
| 18:38.28 | kkubasik | hahahahaha |
| 18:38.51 | kkubasik | and his twisted sense of humor |
| 18:40.28 | Yorokobi | kkubasik, her twisted sense of humour if you ask herlo |
| 18:40.37 | kkubasik | hahaha |
| 18:40.48 | kkubasik | so does it have a monthy mood swing or what? |
| 18:40.56 | kkubasik | how do we represent a programmatic she? |
| 18:41.12 | kkubasik | or he |
| 18:41.25 | kkubasik | thanks to english's lack of gender |
| 18:41.55 | findlay-w | ~gender |
| 18:41.55 | jbot | I'm lesbian |
| 18:41.58 | findlay-w | stupid bot |
| 18:42.09 | kkubasik | hahahahahhahahah |
| 18:42.14 | kkubasik | double awesome |
| 18:42.14 | kkubasik | ;) |
| 18:42.58 | Supaplex | ~cook kkubasik |
| 18:42.59 | jbot | ACTION throws kkubasik in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks kkubasik on 350 for an hour |
| 18:43.06 | Supaplex | she can cook to. |
| 18:43.31 | kkubasik | hahahahah |
| 18:43.44 | kkubasik | jbot really can do anything ;) |
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| 20:11.33 | maquis | ~timeout kkubasik |
| 20:11.33 | jbot | ACTION grabs kkubasik by the ear, drags him to the timeout chair, and forces him to sit there for 20 minutes |
| 20:12.19 | maquis | she's pretty cool |
| 20:12.40 | kkubasik | hehehe |
| 20:12.47 | kkubasik | as long as I have my heros... |
| 20:12.48 | kkubasik | ;) |
| 20:13.08 | kkubasik | man, intro to programming classes are a little tedious.... |
| 20:13.17 | maquis | :) |
| 20:13.21 | maquis | are you a student? |
| 20:13.33 | kkubasik | yeah, almost done though |
| 20:13.43 | kkubasik | but intro credit didn't transfer |
| 20:13.56 | kkubasik | so I have to retake 'intro to object oriented programming' |
| 20:13.59 | kkubasik | hehehe |
| 20:16.26 | maquis | you couldn't just pass out of it? |
| 20:18.31 | kkubasik | once you've been in the class at all, you aren't allowed to place out |
| 20:18.34 | kkubasik | and I went to the first dat |
| 20:18.36 | kkubasik | day* |
| 20:18.48 | kkubasik | before talking to the academic dean |
| 20:18.49 | kkubasik | =/ |
| 20:18.53 | maquis | that's silly |
| 20:18.56 | kkubasik | well, it's a gpa booster |
| 20:18.58 | kkubasik | agreed |
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| 23:27.10 | mheath | Grr, Bishop (or rather, his office workers) are the most retarded people ever. |
| 23:27.55 | mheath | Thanks for forwarding my personal, handwritten request to the Department of the Navy, so I could be given a copy of a form you can get off the internet. |
| 23:28.05 | mheath | 'cause, you know, thats exactly the reason I sent it to you. |
| 23:28.40 | mheath | I thought "Oh, screw the internet. I'd rather handwrite a two page letter requesting help, then wait two months, to get that form!" |
| 23:31.33 | Heartsbane | oh |