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| 00:14.34 | xota | gpgp: I'm searching something as this: http://www.glympse.com/ |
| 00:16.47 | gpgp | thats crazy stuff |
| 00:17.02 | gpgp | gps is not too good for me yet. VERIZON GRRRR |
| 00:17.40 | xota | gpgp: really, I never try it a lot... I think that this couldn't be difficult to develop... I must test the GPS APIs |
| 00:18.34 | gpgp | i cant get the program bike pro to work, never strong enough gps signal |
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| 00:52.10 | sampson_ | so you think that 800mhz patch will torch any pres? |
| 00:53.41 | bpadalino | eventually |
| 00:57.22 | sampson_ | i got curious and installed |
| 00:57.35 | sampson_ | it makes webos really snappy |
| 00:59.56 | gpgp | do you have the temperature monitor installed as well ? |
| 01:00.28 | sampson_ | i installed the warning patch |
| 01:00.40 | sampson_ | i don't really do anything intensive on my phone though... email and gps that's about it |
| 01:00.43 | sampson_ | sometimes facebook |
| 01:02.10 | bpadalino | neato |
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| 01:48.44 | jhojho | looks around for member:dbsooner or member:drnull |
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| 01:52.13 | rwhitby | Adora: if you install Save/Restore from Preware, and get familiar with it, then it should be a 5 or 6 line script addition to support Flickr Addict |
| 01:52.48 | rwhitby | Adora: and we'll just need to run a couple of linux shell commands on a device with that app installed to check where it stores stuff. |
| 01:52.57 | rwhitby | bbl - lunch |
| 01:53.13 | Adora | rwhitby: sounds easy =] |
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| 01:59.06 | jhojho | i'm pleased to report that overnight that email seems to have unborked itself. so no doctor for me for now.. yay |
| 02:06.24 | zsoc | Occasionally, I find it self-assuring to preach to a choir. |
| 02:06.27 | zsoc | WEBOS IS AMAZING |
| 02:06.36 | zsoc | That is all. |
| 02:06.36 | halfhalo_T400 | LIES |
| 02:06.45 | halfhalo_T400 | I feel like playing devils advocate |
| 02:06.50 | zsoc | ha |
| 02:07.11 | zsoc | I could not use any other device right now as my main phone.. and I use both an android phone and a blackberry every day. |
| 02:07.29 | halfhalo_T400 | want a cookie? |
| 02:07.46 | zsoc | halfhalo_T400: you actually just made my skin crawl |
| 02:07.53 | en0x | does the app catalog works for anybody> |
| 02:07.54 | en0x | ? |
| 02:08.06 | zsoc | halfhalo_T400: the second i hit enter, i looked away, opened a box of cookies, took a cookie out, and as i was putting it in my mouth I looked back... |
| 02:08.18 | halfhalo_T400 | I know |
| 02:08.21 | halfhalo_T400 | O_o |
| 02:08.34 | zsoc | halfhalo_T400: please don't look at me :( |
| 02:08.48 | zsoc | checks the black tape over his webcam |
| 02:09.02 | halfhalo_T400 | WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THAT COOKIE?!?!?! THATS DISGUSTING! |
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| 02:50.54 | Dave__ | I'm having troubles with WebOS quick install. I just tried using it for the first time since the latest WebOS update. I've got the latest WebOS Quick Install. When i try to use the tweaks it says "IT appears your device's version of webOS has recently updated. WeboS Quick install needs to transition patches to this new version. Would you like to do that now? |
| 02:51.02 | Dave__ | But when it tries to reverse my current patches it fails. Also when i go into device manager and try and uninstall my patches it fails |
| 02:58.14 | Dave__ | i tried the emergency patch remover but i can't install anything, i get connection refused. I have developer mode turned on. i feel like im forgetting something |
| 02:59.16 | zsoc | Dave__: reinstall novacom? |
| 03:03.35 | rwhitby | Adora: Try 0.6.1 Save/Restore for Flickr Addict support |
| 03:03.54 | rwhitby | The autobuilder should build and release it soon, if not already. |
| 03:04.08 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 03:05.36 | Dave__ | zsoc tried that. from what i'm reading i think the problem is that i updated to 1.4 without removing my patches first |
| 03:05.52 | Dave__ | and now i might have to manually remove the patches from the command line.. not 100% sure yet |
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| 03:55.30 | Kyusaku | seems that jefferycn is interested in getting Japanese input started. He's asking about dictionary files, I'm having trouble finding the right sources though, looking up some Anthy documents but nothing specifies exactly where the dictionaries are |
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| 04:05.03 | Abyssul | where are the patches for Preware located? |
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| 04:06.26 | CosmoSRO | i have a new palm pre and i went into developer mode...after restarting it just says palm on the display ...how can i fix it?...im on sprint |
| 04:07.04 | Abyssul | How long has that been displayed? |
| 04:07.10 | CosmoSRO | 5 mins |
| 04:07.13 | CosmoSRO | or more |
| 04:07.16 | Abyssul | Give it 5 more |
| 04:07.20 | Abyssul | if not, then pull the battery |
| 04:07.29 | CosmoSRO | how do i get to the battery? |
| 04:07.39 | Abyssul | Take off the back cover and pull the black tab |
| 04:07.48 | Abyssul | theres a button at the bottom of the Pre |
| 04:07.59 | Abyssul | push it in and unclip the cover |
| 04:08.34 | CosmoSRO | coll |
| 04:08.50 | CosmoSRO | got it....does it take a while to go into dev mode? |
| 04:08.58 | CosmoSRO | coll=cool |
| 04:09.10 | Abyssul | No |
| 04:09.14 | Abyssul | Just a simple restart |
| 04:09.19 | bpadalino | CosmoSRO: once you start dev mode .. you can use novaterm to check out what's happening during boot up .. |
| 04:09.39 | CosmoSRO | i have nova...how do i launch it? |
| 04:09.59 | CosmoSRO | im trying to put in my tether |
| 04:10.00 | bpadalino | novaterm ? |
| 04:10.19 | CosmoSRO | i have novacom or something running in taskman |
| 04:10.44 | bpadalino | have you seen the topic with the link to the wiki ? |
| 04:10.46 | bpadalino | it's very helpful |
| 04:10.53 | CosmoSRO | novacomd |
| 04:11.08 | Abyssul | Anyone willing to expand on my sms vibration patches? :) |
| 04:11.25 | CosmoSRO | no...just following directions to get this stuff installed and i got stuck in dev mode |
| 04:13.53 | CosmoSRO | so i pulled battery...am i in dev mode? |
| 04:14.18 | Abyssul | if it booted up, yes |
| 04:14.52 | CosmoSRO | what about the found new hardware wizard on my pc? |
| 04:15.20 | Abyssul | dont worry |
| 04:15.27 | CosmoSRO | where do i get the drivers? |
| 04:15.33 | CosmoSRO | do i cancel it? |
| 04:15.35 | Abyssul | No |
| 04:15.41 | Abyssul | Just let it run its course |
| 04:15.46 | CosmoSRO | so just go with it? |
| 04:15.49 | CosmoSRO | k |
| 04:16.07 | CosmoSRO | also...how do u get out of dev mode or how can i be sure im in dev mode? |
| 04:16.30 | CosmoSRO | its installing novacom |
| 04:16.42 | CosmoSRO | thats good i guess |
| 04:17.13 | CosmoSRO | it was unable to install novacom |
| 04:21.35 | CosmoSRO | thanks |
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| 04:22.08 | SiLlY_ | wassabi! |
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| 04:34.07 | Kyusaku | whooooooaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 04:35.58 | Kyusaku | someone developed a Japanese IME for WebOS? Although doesn't seem as integrated as justinput is |
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| 05:28.22 | Kyusaku | wtffffffffffffff |
| 05:28.46 | Kyusaku | I just discovered someone at Palm uses the Japanese IME |
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| 05:33.15 | Kyusaku | haha she had video recording since beginning of January, nice. |
| 05:34.23 | Kyusaku | apparently St Patricks Day is crazy pants day at Palm |
| 05:34.30 | Kyusaku | weird |
| 05:34.35 | bpadalino | sounds fun |
| 05:34.45 | Kyusaku | http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/ |
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| 05:43.56 | swisstomcat | morning |
| 05:45.35 | Kyusaku | morning |
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| 05:59.23 | Dave__ | are there any time lapse apps for webos? |
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| 06:00.53 | andrew__ | can someone help me get preware on my pre? im on a mac and i can't seem to get my webosdoctor.jar file working |
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| 06:02.42 | andrewt | can someone help me get preware on my pre? im on a mac and i can't seem to get my webosdoctor.jar file working |
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| 07:59.22 | eieio | yo |
| 08:00.58 | swisstomcat | yo |
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| 08:22.04 | swisstomcat | how does preware call the app catalog? |
| 08:24.47 | swisstomcat | i do an open browser call with the target http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid, but that opens the browser first and then the app catalog from there |
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| 08:32.08 | swisstomcat | ok, figured it out |
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| 10:16.26 | rwhitby | morning swisstomcat |
| 10:29.47 | hape_ | morning all |
| 10:30.32 | hape_ | rwhitby: Is there any docu of the scve/restor scipt format until now. To be able to add support for more appliactions. |
| 10:31.00 | hape_ | The do not looc that complicated in git, but I'm not sure wthat is needed as a minimum |
| 10:35.31 | rwhitby | hape_: there are 20 examples - that's the doco |
| 10:35.49 | rwhitby | the 6 or so lines in each script are all that is required |
| 10:36.04 | rwhitby | (unless the app is doing something out of the ordinary) |
| 10:37.48 | swisstomcat | morning rwhitby |
| 10:38.14 | swisstomcat | great progress on the saverestore ... i'm sorry i couldn't help further .. day job taking away all the resources |
| 10:38.55 | hape_ | rwhitby: ok, will give it a try |
| 10:40.00 | swisstomcat | i have time now and the next days .. is there something that needs to be done? |
| 10:48.14 | rwhitby | swisstomcat: one thing that needs to be done on Preware is adding a screen for entering regexp to omit certain vendors or apps from the displayed feeds |
| 10:48.15 | rwhitby | regexps |
| 10:48.15 | rwhitby | and in the package lists, a swipe on an app gives you the choice of blacklisting the vendor or the app |
| 10:49.01 | swisstomcat | ok, i can try to figure that out |
| 10:50.03 | swisstomcat | a report of the swiss openexpo is also in the works |
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| 11:43.53 | rwhitby | So HAWX is a good game so far |
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| 12:46.53 | swisstomcat | meow |
| 12:48.28 | nt4cats | coughs up a hairball, looks at the people here with indifference (but note the subtle 'I could kill you and eat you if I wanted to' undertone), and flops down on the floor for a nap |
| 12:48.59 | swisstomcat | hehe |
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| 12:59.45 | en0x | how i can extract an ipk? |
| 13:01.02 | Bmyers | on what platform? |
| 13:01.18 | en0x | ubuntu |
| 13:01.36 | hucksy | double click |
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| 13:04.54 | en0x | well you cant because it's a wrong format or something and it's armv7 which is wrong architecture |
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| 13:05.09 | en0x | i tried to dpkg --unpack *armv7.ipk with no luck |
| 13:05.24 | swisstomcat | use "open with" |
| 13:05.26 | nt4cats | en0x: I saw this on the google: |
| 13:05.29 | nt4cats | "So, a .ipk file is an archive (either tar or gzipped tar) containing 3 members:" |
| 13:05.37 | swisstomcat | open with archive manager |
| 13:05.49 | nt4cats | en0x: so if all you want is to open it up just use tar |
| 13:06.09 | swisstomcat | right click and then "open with archive manager" .. default is package installer .. not what you want |
| 13:06.36 | nt4cats | en0x: or if you are a GUI weenie who is terrified of that scary command-line, do what swisstomcat says |
| 13:06.44 | swisstomcat | then you'll see data.tar.gt inside which is the app |
| 13:07.24 | swisstomcat | i'm not scared of it, i'm just lazy sometimes :) |
| 13:08.18 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: I'm just being obnoxious/silly ... I use GUI tools as often as I use the commandline |
| 13:08.32 | swisstomcat | i know |
| 13:11.59 | en0x | i dont care about gui ;) |
| 13:12.03 | en0x | ok got it thanks |
| 13:12.21 | swisstomcat | how can i extract the $L strings from all the files? |
| 13:12.38 | nt4cats | define 'extract' |
| 13:13.09 | swisstomcat | put all of them into another file |
| 13:13.17 | swisstomcat | preferrably strings.json :) |
| 13:13.24 | nt4cats | I'm not sure what a "$L" string is |
| 13:13.29 | swisstomcat | oh |
| 13:13.30 | nt4cats | do you have an example input file I can see? |
| 13:13.58 | swisstomcat | this.controller.setupWidget("password", this.attributes = { hintText: $L('Type Password') .... |
| 13:13.58 | swisstomcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.05 | nt4cats | got it |
| 13:14.07 | en0x | new messaging plugins on precentral |
| 13:14.42 | swisstomcat | i heard that dalmaers palm-run does this but i never got it running |
| 13:16.11 | Dave__ | is there a simple xml file or something that has all my contacts in it? |
| 13:16.26 | nt4cats | Dave__: I think they're in a sqlite database |
| 13:16.49 | en0x | yap contacts are in sql |
| 13:17.35 | swisstomcat | yep |
| 13:21.03 | Dave__ | hmm |
| 13:21.17 | Dave__ | before i mess with it, has anyone already done something for dumping the contacts out of it? |
| 13:21.18 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: here's the 'hard' part: |
| 13:21.38 | nt4cats | egrep -o "\\\$L\('[A-Za-z0-9 ]+'\)" {input file(s)} |
| 13:22.13 | nt4cats | this assumes that your strings are letters, numbers, and spaces only |
| 13:22.45 | nt4cats | This spits out the entire "$L('whatever')" string |
| 13:23.02 | swisstomcat | let me try |
| 13:23.57 | swisstomcat | cool |
| 13:24.12 | swisstomcat | now i just need to pass a list of js files to it |
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| 13:24.41 | rwhitby | Dave__: see Save/Restore and write a new query script for it |
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| 13:24.49 | rwhitby | http://bit.ly/saverestore |
| 13:25.06 | rwhitby | http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/saverestore.git;a=tree;f=scripts |
| 13:27.03 | swisstomcat | looking great btw |
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| 13:27.37 | swisstomcat | hey anoutsider |
| 13:27.47 | AnOutsider | hey, don't assault me |
| 13:27.55 | swisstomcat | anoutsider: were you working on the saverestore gui? |
| 13:28.06 | AnOutsider | not recently no |
| 13:28.16 | swisstomcat | just wanted to say 'great job' |
| 13:28.32 | AnOutsider | I just did the base work, I think rod and oil polished it :) |
| 13:28.44 | swisstomcat | thumbs up to them too |
| 13:28.50 | rwhitby | I polished it by grabbing all the code from Preware |
| 13:28.56 | swisstomcat | i just managed to do the very first parts |
| 13:29.06 | AnOutsider | indeed, it's proved useful. I've gotta ssh into my phone and make some scripts for more apps |
| 13:29.12 | rwhitby | but I did add some extra features like the toggle switches clicking off and the dashboard banner |
| 13:29.29 | rwhitby | AnOutsider: don't forget to add them to the repo |
| 13:29.45 | AnOutsider | did u also do the scrolling as it saved each |
| 13:29.47 | AnOutsider | nice touch |
| 13:29.51 | rwhitby | yep |
| 13:30.05 | rwhitby | and the updating of the items to show the files saved and the timestamps |
| 13:30.23 | AnOutsider | yeah, def good touches. made it more user friendlty |
| 13:30.35 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: this will let you have anything in your string |
| 13:30.38 | nt4cats | egrep -o "\\\$L\('[^']+'\)" |
| 13:30.52 | rwhitby | and the disabling of the numbers and rows on the front screen while it's reloading |
| 13:31.01 | rwhitby | (actually I did the reloading bit too :-) |
| 13:31.32 | swisstomcat | wish my dayjob would leave me more time |
| 13:32.52 | AnOutsider | ditto, we'd have a dedicated theme app by now ;) |
| 13:33.00 | AnOutsider | especially if rod did the service heh |
| 13:35.38 | rwhitby | AnOutsider: you know you could use Save/Restore to install themes ;) |
| 13:36.14 | rwhitby | it wouldn't be pretty, but it's technically possible |
| 13:38.24 | swisstomcat | nt4cats: probably a stupid question but why doesn't ls -l | egrep -o "\\\$L\('[^']+'\)" work? |
| 13:38.39 | nt4cats | ls -l produces a list of file names |
| 13:38.49 | swisstomcat | yeah |
| 13:38.51 | nt4cats | none of those file names match your regular expression |
| 13:38.56 | swisstomcat | oh |
| 13:38.56 | nt4cats | the CONTENTS of those files may match ... |
| 13:39.03 | swisstomcat | ok, i get it |
| 13:39.06 | nt4cats | you could do this: |
| 13:39.22 | nt4cats | egrep "{blah}" * |
| 13:39.25 | swisstomcat | ls -l | cat | egrep? |
| 13:39.52 | nt4cats | just putting a '*' after egrep tells egrep to process all files as input |
| 13:40.01 | nt4cats | .. or maybe you want |
| 13:40.06 | nt4cats | grep "{blah}" *.js |
| 13:40.22 | nt4cats | s/grep/egrep/ |
| 13:40.31 | swisstomcat | that worked :) |
| 13:40.37 | AnOutsider | Or I could reverse-engineer your c service :) |
| 13:40.46 | AnOutsider | alas, time tho |
| 13:40.50 | swisstomcat | why reverse engineer since it's open source? |
| 13:41.07 | swisstomcat | nt4cats: thank you .. that trick saves time |
| 13:41.23 | AnOutsider | just meaning I'd use that code to figure out how to do my own |
| 13:43.18 | swisstomcat | last thing .. egrep displays the file where it finds the match .. can that be switched off? |
| 13:43.58 | swisstomcat | -h, --no-filename suppress the prefixing filename on output |
| 13:44.00 | swisstomcat | found it |
| 13:44.13 | swisstomcat | cool |
| 13:46.12 | nt4cats | did you want just the strings without the leading "$L(" and trailing ")"? |
| 13:46.28 | nt4cats | if so a quick-and-dirty way to get that is: |
| 13:47.18 | nt4cats | egrep -h -o "\\\$L\('[^']+'\)" * | egrep -o "'[^']+'" |
| 13:47.53 | nt4cats | (and the '*' in the middle there is the shell filename expression -- replace that with "*.js" or whatever) |
| 13:48.26 | bpadalino|work | it's funny .. i end up seeing lisp as too many parens .. but i have no problem with the excessive number of \'s in regex's .. |
| 13:48.29 | bpadalino|work | so crazy |
| 13:48.57 | nt4cats | bpadalino: lisp IS too many parens (Lotsa Insidious Silly Parentheses) |
| 13:52.20 | bpadalino|work | and regex's don't have too many \'s ? |
| 13:53.13 | swisstomcat | very cool nt4cats ... |
| 13:53.35 | swisstomcat | shall i create a page for webos-internals? |
| 13:54.07 | swisstomcat | "how to extract $L strings" |
| 13:56.14 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: if you think other people could use the information, sure |
| 13:56.39 | swisstomcat | they might .. especially now with the international launch |
| 13:56.53 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: and when I'm between tasks today I'll see if i can figure out the backreference syntax for egrep and then you won't need the 2nd egrep |
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| 14:04.52 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: make sure you include this http://tinyurl.com/y86yht9 along with the "$L text howto" if you write one up. |
| 14:05.41 | swisstomcat | whaaa |
| 14:05.49 | swisstomcat | let me call my lawyer |
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| 15:52.15 | zsoc_wirc | I'm surprised at how well this chip runs at 800mhz. I was expecting more instability |
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| 15:53.25 | nebula | riiight |
| 15:54.29 | en0x | zsoc_wirc, i'm running at 720Mhz |
| 15:55.05 | zsoc_wirc | nebula: ? |
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| 15:55.44 | scoutcamper | hi all |
| 15:55.54 | nebula | zsoc_wirc: haven |
| 15:56.03 | nebula | haven't been here in a while |
| 15:56.09 | zsoc_wirc | nebula: ha.... ven? |
| 15:56.15 | nebula | heh |
| 15:56.16 | zsoc_wirc | nebula: oh. hi :) |
| 15:56.24 | nebula | 'lo |
| 15:56.57 | nebula | so i've moved completely from the pre to the pixi |
| 15:57.13 | nebula | couldn't stand the flimsy factor :( |
| 15:57.23 | nebula | sure am missing 3d, etc. though |
| 15:57.47 | zsoc_wirc | nebula: new sprint device coming |
| 15:58.04 | nebula | yeah, thought it was droid..? |
| 15:58.18 | swisstomcat | i'm running on 720mhz as well |
| 15:58.22 | zsoc_wirc | nebula: I mean a new palm device |
| 15:58.37 | castle` | where are you getting this inforomation? |
| 15:58.47 | nebula | 4g i would hope |
| 15:59.01 | zsoc_wirc | nebula: probably not. I imagine pre plus |
| 15:59.08 | nebula | ah, that would make sense |
| 15:59.17 | zsoc_wirc | castle`: common sense? all inventory is out to channels. |
| 15:59.28 | nebula | is the pre plus better than the pre with form factor flimsy issues? |
| 15:59.39 | castle` | url please |
| 16:00.15 | scoutcamper | lol |
| 16:00.28 | zsoc_wirc | nebula: yes |
| 16:00.36 | nebula | figures ;) |
| 16:00.37 | scoutcamper | no pre plus for sprint, their network "cant handle tethering" |
| 16:00.56 | scoutcamper | :D |
| 16:00.57 | nebula | thought i read something about cdma the other day |
| 16:01.08 | nebula | some new way that could handle voice/data |
| 16:02.31 | scoutcamper | doubts it |
| 16:14.11 | VincentLaw | it's supposed to be on the EVO |
| 16:14.35 | VincentLaw | although I expect they confused it with using wimax and phone at the same time |
| 16:28.49 | nt4cats | http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2 |
| 16:28.53 | nt4cats | vote early vote often |
| 16:29.25 | nt4cats | scoutcamper: can't handle tethering? They sell the MiFi device that shares EVDO over WiFi for multiple devices ... |
| 16:30.04 | nt4cats | wonders if scoutcamper's <smile> afterwards was pointing out the silliness of such a statement ... |
| 16:31.01 | nt4cats | From the annals of useful statistics: currently the vote is 92% Pre, 8% HTC HD2 |
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| 16:42.04 | VincentLaw | [12:28:45] <nt4cats> vote early vote often |
| 16:42.05 | VincentLaw | votes |
| 16:42.11 | VincentLaw | resets 3G card, votes again |
| 16:42.14 | VincentLaw | resets 3G card, votes again |
| 16:42.15 | VincentLaw | etc |
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| 16:43.50 | MetaView | hi |
| 16:43.51 | VincentLaw | wait, why do I bother, the pre's already winning by like 1000 votes |
| 16:43.55 | MetaView | hape_ ? |
| 16:44.04 | MetaView | new vote? |
| 16:44.07 | psykoz | VincentLaw, the Pre barely won against the black berry |
| 16:44.14 | psykoz | So you better put your vote in fucker ;) |
| 16:45.13 | VincentLaw | psykoz: I consider that a fluke, to be honest. there's absolutely no reason that poll should have been that close, compared to the pre vs Nexus One |
| 16:45.48 | psykoz | Lots of people own blackberry's |
| 16:45.52 | VincentLaw | (that is, I'd expect it to be very close race with the nexus one, not the blackberry) |
| 16:45.54 | psykoz | Lots of people don't own Nexus Ones |
| 16:46.09 | VincentLaw | yeah, but lots of people own crappy nokia bricks too, doesn't mean they're good :p |
| 16:46.38 | Butch | hi, i've got a little question. i just reflashed my palm pre and installed the terminal. but i have the same problem as before: everytime i try to run the termina, luna restarts |
| 16:46.46 | dthought | after all... it boils down to the phone that has the most users that are proud of it... |
| 16:47.00 | Butch | can anyone help? |
| 16:47.19 | dthought | Butch: terminal won't work with webOS 1.4 |
| 16:47.58 | Butch | oh no. how can i get a shell then? for ssh i need terminal |
| 16:48.02 | nt4cats | http://tiny.cc/PreVsHd2 <--- short version of the vote page |
| 16:48.27 | nt4cats | Butch: novacom |
| 16:48.32 | VincentLaw | Butch: there's another app called ... Terminus? |
| 16:48.33 | VincentLaw | use that |
| 16:48.57 | MetaView | what about the SDL terminal? need I to do it tonight? |
| 16:49.02 | Butch | novaterm is not enough cause there i have no root-access. i will try terminus. thy |
| 16:49.04 | Butch | thx |
| 16:49.20 | VincentLaw | novaterm should give you root... |
| 16:49.24 | dthought | Butch: novaterm gives you root |
| 16:49.37 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: maybe he can't install novacom because he doesn't have root on his PC ? |
| 16:49.47 | Butch | oh, i have |
| 16:49.58 | Butch | but last time i couldnt access /home/root |
| 16:50.04 | VincentLaw | nt4cats: then I'd say sshd + putty :p |
| 16:50.35 | nt4cats | Lunch! |
| 16:50.40 | Butch | that was my intention. but for sshd i need access to edit the conf or create/copy the key |
| 16:51.00 | VincentLaw | also root is in /var/home/root, althoguh I believe /home/root is a symlink |
| 16:51.11 | MetaView | it is |
| 16:53.12 | MetaView | hape_: added the pdl as advised, make still fails - don't know from where the filename should come |
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| 17:32.20 | hape_ | MetaView: where dose it fail? |
| 17:32.33 | MetaView | the pdk stuff |
| 17:32.44 | MetaView | but I changhed the makefile on my own, now it builds |
| 17:36.45 | hape_ | ok, if found the problem to. |
| 17:37.04 | hape_ | The mane in the cuurent makefile is tar.gz the one i send you is tgz |
| 17:37.36 | nt4cats | on behalf of hape_: s/mane/name |
| 17:38.18 | MetaView | hape_: ok, that's explains things |
| 17:38.23 | MetaView | -'s |
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| 17:40.06 | zsoc_wirc | MetaView: hape_: you guys building stuff in the official pdk? |
| 17:41.26 | hape_ | no weobis interns pdk |
| 17:42.05 | hape_ | zsoc_wirc: there is a makefile /noworking/pdl that includes the headr and the li bs from the beta Palm pdk into the webosainternals pdk |
| 17:42.53 | hape_ | zsoc_wirc: at the moment you need to have the Palm pdk als tzg in your downloads forlder as the outoextract from the downlaodbale mac pdk is not working/implemented |
| 17:43.04 | mjkjr|wirc | is egaudet on vacation or something? I have questions about aupt4, vkb, and efv |
| 17:43.10 | zsoc_wirc | hape_: gotcha. is thee official word on pdl/pdk~>mojo app communication? |
| 17:43.41 | zsoc_wirc | s/thee/there/ |
| 17:43.59 | hape_ | zsoc_wirc: don't know |
| 17:44.19 | MetaView | well, quake also uses the PDL-lib |
| 17:45.46 | MetaView | hape_: "cast increases required alignment of target type" sound not that good |
| 17:45.57 | MetaView | s/sound/sounds |
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| 17:59.03 | nt4cats | Vote early, vote often: http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2 (will repost no more frequently than once an hour) |
| 18:01.20 | MetaView | nt4cats: nice :) |
| 18:02.10 | loot- | haha how does a windows phone even get to the point of being compared to a webos phone? |
| 18:02.37 | loot- | i mean seriously... i could have never used the pre and the windows phone could have 2x the specs and im still going to vote for the linux phone because i know how terrible windows mobile is |
| 18:02.41 | loot- | haha |
| 18:03.20 | loot- | haha 85% voted for the pre |
| 18:03.27 | loot- | shocker! |
| 18:03.33 | loot- | makes the ron jeremy gang sign |
| 18:05.41 | nt4cats | googled for ron jeremy gang sign and didn't find it. There was an interesting article entitled World's biggest gang bang (hosted by Ron Jeremy) on Wikipedia, however. |
| 18:05.43 | chrisa | I'm surprised, the hd2 was incredibly popular I thought |
| 18:05.57 | nt4cats | chrisa / loot-: the poll is very new. |
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| 18:10.01 | MetaView | how to tell sdl in WIDK about the libs you have? |
| 18:10.13 | MetaView | it only shows me -lSDL |
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| 18:15.16 | loot- | nt4cats: haha the ron jeremy gang sign |
| 18:15.23 | loot- | is his "signature move" |
| 18:15.25 | loot- | haha |
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| 18:15.47 | nt4cats | thumbs up? |
| 18:16.04 | loot- | http://www.mohammadi.ca/media/1/20080815-shocker-35838.jpg |
| 18:16.06 | loot- | ^ |
| 18:16.27 | loot- | http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/the-shocker.jpg |
| 18:16.28 | loot- | ^ |
| 18:16.29 | loot- | lol |
| 18:16.49 | cal__ | anyone here use ez-ipupdate? |
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| 18:27.23 | egaudet_work | morning |
| 18:28.08 | MetaView | ..has broken... |
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| 18:30.31 | nt4cats | like the first morning |
| 18:31.17 | nt4cats | Blackbird has spoken, like the first bird ... |
| 18:34.17 | Mousey | thinks . o O ( raven? ) |
| 18:34.53 | Metbo | http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/239179-mozilla-qt-webos.html :) |
| 18:36.09 | Metbo | is it easy to port qt apps to webos? |
| 18:36.29 | nt4cats | Metbo: someone ported the QT demo apps to webos in a number of hours, I believe. |
| 18:36.35 | swisstomcat | as i heard, yes |
| 18:36.49 | swisstomcat | did you see the qt demos, metbo (they are in preware) |
| 18:36.55 | Metbo | and how ? ;) |
| 18:36.56 | Metbo | yes |
| 18:37.09 | swisstomcat | ask the one who ported those demos |
| 18:37.11 | Metbo | they are the reason why i post |
| 18:37.19 | Metbo | ok |
| 18:37.23 | swisstomcat | let me check if i can see his name |
| 18:38.00 | nt4cats | Metbo: http://www.griffin.net/2010/02/qt-on-the-palm-pre.html |
| 18:38.06 | swisstomcat | http://www.griffin.net/2010/02/qt-on-the-palm-pre.html |
| 18:38.10 | swisstomcat | dang, beat me to it :) |
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| 18:38.51 | Metbo | thanks |
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| 18:39.58 | nt4cats | If swissy is a tomcat, I'm a F18 |
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| 18:41.12 | swisstomcat | yeah, i'm getting old in the tooth |
| 18:41.13 | Metbo | grr i need his email :/ |
| 18:41.36 | Metbo | and i cant find his email on the website |
| 18:41.55 | swisstomcat | blog@griffin.net |
| 18:42.28 | Metbo | but is this the email of the developer? |
| 18:42.43 | Metbo | i can try .. |
| 18:43.13 | nt4cats | Metbo: yes, I think so. I am 97.1248% sure I've seen someone claiming to be the "I ported QT to webOS" guy here on this channel, too. |
| 18:43.43 | Metbo | nice |
| 18:44.46 | Metbo | it would be awesome if it easy to port firefox qt to webos :) :) |
| 18:45.09 | nt4cats | Metbo: are you unhappy with webOS's webkit browser? |
| 18:45.42 | Metbo | not really |
| 18:45.59 | Metbo | but a second browser would be cool |
| 18:47.08 | swisstomcat | i'm pretty sure is saw him on here too |
| 18:47.24 | nt4cats | Metbo: if you want to be totally stalker-ish, look at the archive for this channel for the day the "QT ported to webOS" story ran and I think you'll see his irc handle |
| 18:48.38 | Metbo | yes, first ill send him an email |
| 18:48.56 | en0x | 1.4.1 here 1.4.1 there |
| 18:49.02 | en0x | does a happy dance |
| 18:49.22 | nt4cats | en0x: if you're lying I am going to find you and drown you |
| 18:49.32 | en0x | 1.4.1 popped up in Holland |
| 18:49.41 | nt4cats | Holland, PA? |
| 18:49.48 | en0x | nah Holland europe |
| 18:49.49 | en0x | :P |
| 18:50.03 | loot- | holland michigan |
| 18:50.04 | loot- | lol |
| 18:50.15 | en0x | Update: tomi666 notes it a very small update, only 6mb from 1.4 to 1.4.1. |
| 18:50.26 | en0x | only 6mb :( |
| 18:50.27 | swisstomcat | really? |
| 18:50.47 | en0x | swisstomcat, well don't forget that webos has binary patching so thats why it's so small |
| 18:51.06 | en0x | without binary patching it would probably be like 30-50mb |
| 18:51.07 | swisstomcat | i thought 1.4.1 would be bigger with all the bugs fixed |
| 18:51.07 | en0x | :D |
| 18:51.09 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: are you in Europe (e.g. Swissland or Swissberg or whatever)? |
| 18:51.20 | swisstomcat | is in switzerland |
| 18:51.21 | en0x | bug fixes my ass |
| 18:51.22 | en0x | :) |
| 18:51.36 | en0x | probably they just brought paid apps with 1.4.1 :D |
| 18:51.41 | nt4cats | Switzerland is next to Argentina, right? |
| 18:51.54 | swisstomcat | nah, switzerland is where sweden is |
| 18:52.01 | nt4cats | ahh, I see, thanks |
| 18:52.07 | en0x | lol |
| 18:52.15 | swisstomcat | or is the other way around? |
| 18:52.25 | swisstomcat | starts google maps .. ah, here i am |
| 18:52.37 | swisstomcat | it's next to germany apparently |
| 18:53.01 | en0x | lol u both fail :P |
| 18:53.38 | en0x | is launching updates app |
| 18:54.02 | en0x | nada :( |
| 18:54.08 | nt4cats | en0x: please provide your address and a time it would be convenient for me to stop by and hold your head under water for 7-12 minutes |
| 18:54.48 | en0x | nt4cats, sure come to washington, dc to white house... knock on the door and ask for en0x they will find me ;) |
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| 18:55.41 | nt4cats | en0x: are you in the DC area (I grew up in the DC area)? |
| 18:55.52 | nt4cats | went to high school in DC ... |
| 18:56.31 | nt4cats | has heard that the Secret Service doesn't have a very well-developed sense of humor regarding threats of bodily harm and the White House ... |
| 18:58.01 | en0x | no i'm not in dc area nt4cats |
| 18:58.01 | en0x | ;P |
| 18:58.21 | loot- | lol |
| 18:58.23 | loot- | i am |
| 18:58.25 | loot- | :P |
| 18:59.02 | loot- | i saw military helicopters flying humvee's into DC yesterday |
| 18:59.09 | loot- | it was interesting consider the president is in afghanistan |
| 18:59.12 | loot- | considering* |
| 18:59.38 | en0x | well he don't need humvee in afghanistan |
| 18:59.38 | en0x | ;D |
| 18:59.42 | nt4cats | loot-: I lived in Gaithersburg, MD 1980-1989 and went to high school at St. John's College HS (in NW DC) |
| 19:00.10 | loot- | nice i lived in gaithersburg a few years ago |
| 19:00.16 | loot- | i live in alexandria now |
| 19:00.23 | swisstomcat | black helicopters are on the way to nt4cats location .. they hear you everywhere |
| 19:00.41 | loot- | swisstomcat: they're actually dark green now |
| 19:00.43 | loot- | lol |
| 19:00.58 | swisstomcat | havent' seen one from the inside for a while ;) |
| 19:02.39 | loot- | en0x: the reason i said that is that they do not keep humvee's in DC |
| 19:02.44 | loot- | they're far too large to drive on the streets |
| 19:03.05 | loot- | so why in the hell would they be flying 4-5 of them into the city during the middle of the day when the president is out of town? |
| 19:03.34 | nt4cats | loot-: the streets of DC were laid out in the 1400's by George Washington and Herbert Hoover, that's why they are so narrow. |
| 19:03.38 | loot- | i saw the presidents motorcade once before also |
| 19:03.45 | loot- | was about to get on the woodrow wilson bridge |
| 19:04.03 | loot- | and about 50 black suburbans roll down the opposite side of the road and lock all of 295 north down |
| 19:04.06 | loot- | haha |
| 19:05.05 | loot- | im use to shit that normal people arent at this point |
| 19:05.16 | loot- | my sister once got into a car accident with a secret service agent |
| 19:05.29 | loot- | an army ranger once pulled into my lane and caused an accident |
| 19:05.49 | nt4cats | okay, I can't drown en0x (today): http://www.precentral.net/webos-141-starts-trickling-out-holland-time |
| 19:05.54 | loot- | you see secret service uniform police driving around "embassy row" all the time |
| 19:06.49 | en0x | nt4cats, told ya |
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| 19:07.54 | karotte_exee | hi |
| 19:08.05 | en0x | hmm |
| 19:08.13 | nt4cats | en0x: you are the official "boy who cried 'wolf'!" when it comes to webOS updates (so that makes you the "boy who cried 'the update is out!'") |
| 19:08.18 | karotte_exee | ahm, is here someone with a facebook-account? |
| 19:08.30 | nt4cats | karotte_exee: ahm, yes |
| 19:08.48 | en0x | kesne mentioned new checkers board game like 200 times on chat during palmcast |
| 19:08.54 | karotte_exee | do you play vampire wars with a palm app? |
| 19:09.05 | nt4cats | karotte_exee: I don't play facebook games, sorry |
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| 19:09.12 | swisstomcat | karotte_exee: yes |
| 19:09.29 | karotte_exee | arg! i have problems to link it |
| 19:09.35 | swisstomcat | i block every facebook game |
| 19:10.12 | en0x | nt4cats, nah i dont cry :( |
| 19:10.58 | nt4cats | endeavors to call en0x names until he cries |
| 19:11.03 | nt4cats | en0x: you're a poopyhead |
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| 19:11.18 | loot- | just a heads up |
| 19:11.27 | loot- | i will not believe anything anyone says in this channel tomorow |
| 19:11.28 | en0x | hehe |
| 19:11.30 | loot- | +r |
| 19:11.54 | nt4cats | loot-: I probably will. I'm too trusting. |
| 19:12.21 | loot- | i should run around telling everyone that the sky is falling because of global warming |
| 19:12.25 | loot- | i'd incite an irc riot |
| 19:12.40 | VincentLaw | and the global warming is caused by overclocked Pres |
| 19:12.55 | en0x | there is no such a thing as global warming |
| 19:13.18 | VincentLaw | en0x: it's called "summer" |
| 19:13.31 | en0x | wow finally i get facbook notifications in 1.1.4 |
| 19:13.31 | en0x | :D |
| 19:13.43 | VincentLaw | I've yet to get one |
| 19:13.51 | VincentLaw | in fact, it doesn't even show notifications correctly in the app |
| 19:13.52 | en0x | they started poping up today |
| 19:13.57 | en0x | after 4 days |
| 19:14.13 | swisstomcat | yeah, same here |
| 19:14.18 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: Have you rebooted since installing FB 1.1.2 (or 1.1.4)? |
| 19:14.26 | VincentLaw | yeah |
| 19:14.35 | VincentLaw | still says only one notification, from march 21st |
| 19:14.39 | VincentLaw | and a /lot/ has happened since >.> |
| 19:14.49 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: Hmmm .. it didn't work for me more or less at all -- then I rebooted, and it has worked okay since. |
| 19:14.50 | VincentLaw | there's no configuration for notifications either, from what I can see |
| 19:15.03 | en0x | not yet |
| 19:15.04 | en0x | lol |
| 19:15.27 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: no config, agreed -- and sometimes it seems to 'hang' on refresh, but it always un-hangs itself soon enough and then works fine again. |
| 19:15.42 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: pretty acceptable for beta software IMHO |
| 19:15.59 | en0x | Update 3: At least one Sprint user, Daniel in Washington, has received the webOS 1.4.1 update |
| 19:16.10 | VincentLaw | yeah, just the notifications seem completely borked, not even beta-level stable for me |
| 19:16.15 | VincentLaw | everything else is fine |
| 19:16.24 | en0x | this release should be called alpha |
| 19:16.24 | en0x | ;d |
| 19:16.32 | MetaView | if sdl-config --prefix gives the wrong path, what can I do? |
| 19:16.38 | nt4cats | The app is beta-quality, notifications are alpha-quality, I'd say. |
| 19:19.03 | en0x | i would say pre-alpha |
| 19:19.04 | en0x | :D |
| 19:22.25 | MetaView | how can I fix sdl-config? |
| 19:22.38 | MetaView | shall I create symlinks to the correct folder? |
| 19:22.40 | nt4cats | I'm running to the train, be back in ~20 minutes |
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| 19:31.44 | en0x | *yawn* |
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| 19:46.00 | Kyusaku | so |
| 19:46.14 | Kyusaku | I think we might see a Japanese version of justinput coming |
| 19:46.53 | nt4cats | Vote early, vote often: http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2 (I'll repost this here no more frequently than once an hour) |
| 19:47.25 | en0x | omg |
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| 19:47.40 | Kyusaku | the author is interested and seems to have started, and I've also contacted the author of the Japanese IME application about their implementation and seems to be on board with sharing their dictionary |
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| 19:49.20 | VincentLaw | haha, pre is still winning by the same margin it was this morning |
| 19:49.42 | Kyusaku | Facebook notifications sometimes work when it's not stuck in that endless loop |
| 19:49.50 | loot- | ive owned htc phones with winmo... i will never own either ever again |
| 19:50.18 | Kyusaku | but that essentially is pointless because if notifications are working, that usually means the other feeds aren't |
| 19:50.18 | VincentLaw | EVO is nice though >.> |
| 19:50.24 | loot- | the only nice thing about winmo was pocket putty |
| 19:50.32 | loot- | thats pretty much it |
| 19:50.32 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: it is closer, the pre has 64% of the vote now |
| 19:50.37 | loot- | everything else was garbage |
| 19:51.07 | VincentLaw | nt4cats: still has ~1500 vote lead though, was my point |
| 19:51.14 | Kyusaku | I had WinMo on my old Treo |
| 19:51.30 | Kyusaku | was mediocre at best |
| 19:52.06 | Kyusaku | granted it did get the job done most of the time, but not as efficiently as the Pre does for me |
| 19:52.22 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: ... and as we get up to the 20K total votes we can expect, that 1500 vote lead will seem/feel quite small |
| 19:52.36 | Kyusaku | and if this IME stuff happens it will make things 10x better for me! |
| 19:52.45 | loot- | winmo was horrible for me |
| 19:52.49 | loot- | the 3 phones ive used it on |
| 19:52.53 | loot- | 2 htc 1 samsung |
| 19:52.59 | loot- | it was GOD AWFUL SLOW on all of them |
| 19:53.05 | loot- | and constantly crashed the devices on all of them |
| 19:53.11 | loot- | did i mention it was slow? |
| 19:53.34 | loot- | i mean, i could take a shower and come back and still be waiting for the phone to complete something |
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| 19:55.13 | en0x | yeah I had winmo too |
| 19:55.23 | en0x | and my hairs were going grey |
| 19:55.43 | loot- | the last one i had |
| 19:55.50 | loot- | i was so frustrated with it |
| 19:55.53 | Kyusaku | but how could you miss the pinwheel that goes around and around and around |
| 19:56.02 | loot- | the final straw was some app crashing |
| 19:56.11 | VincentLaw | nt4cats: might seem small but it's a large margin compared to the blackberry poll :p |
| 19:56.16 | loot- | and snapped the phone in half |
| 19:56.33 | loot- | i have never had a more frustrating phone in my entire life |
| 19:56.45 | nt4cats | VincentLaw: you're not kidding. |
| 19:57.01 | loot- | i would rather carry around one of those gigantic pulse dial phones |
| 19:57.09 | loot- | faster, and at least those freaking worked |
| 19:57.37 | nt4cats | is going to take a nap, bbl |
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| 20:35.05 | jrmnet | Anyone that can help w/a question about blocking updates? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Blocking_Updates |
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| 20:36.34 | jacques | what's this I hear about 1.4.1 being released? |
| 20:37.06 | jrmnet | Devmode is on, connected via WOQI, selected linux command line, but "cd/usr/bin" command will not change directories. |
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| 20:41.53 | swisstomcat | jacques: yeah, it was confirmed by a palm engineer |
| 20:42.03 | swisstomcat | jrmnet: same here |
| 20:42.17 | swisstomcat | jrmnet: cd doesn't work apparently .. use direct commands |
| 20:43.54 | jrmnet | Just tried that, "/usr/bin mount -o remount,rw /" gives "Permission denied" |
| 20:44.24 | jrmnet | I just want to block 1.4 from installing so I have time to remove patches once its rolled out. |
| 20:44.44 | swisstomcat | jrmnet: wouldn't that be /usr/bin/mount ....? |
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| 20:51.38 | jacques | swisstomcat: did you hear anything about a 1.4.1 US release? |
| 20:52.03 | swisstomcat | jacques: it seems to be a general release .. not sure tho |
| 20:52.33 | jacques | swisstomcat: I would hope so - we need some bug/stability fixes |
| 20:52.36 | Tibfib | jacques: pretty sure it is a global release |
| 20:52.43 | Tibfib | Almost 100% sure |
| 20:52.44 | swisstomcat | yeah, i agree |
| 20:52.49 | jacques | thanks guys |
| 20:53.01 | swisstomcat | lunasysmgr crashes |
| 20:53.07 | Tibfib | http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=25331#p25331 |
| 20:53.09 | swisstomcat | telephone app unresponsive |
| 20:53.20 | jacques | swisstomcat: I get those, plus lockscreen bug |
| 20:53.23 | swisstomcat | yup, that's the thread i was talking about |
| 20:53.29 | swisstomcat | yeah, lockscreen bug too |
| 20:53.33 | swisstomcat | saw that today |
| 20:53.46 | swisstomcat | background processes being killed after 15 sec |
| 20:54.30 | jacques | one time I didn't get notified about missed calls / voicemail for 20 hours |
| 20:56.12 | swisstomcat | not sure if everything is fixed tho |
| 20:57.32 | jacques | yeah, we'll just have to see |
| 21:03.47 | jacques | I just checked, no update available for me yet |
| 21:04.05 | jacques | (had to go outside the building to check) :-) |
| 21:04.34 | Tibfib | I think it's hilarious the same guy that got 1.4 in vietnam got it in holland |
| 21:05.03 | Tibfib | got 1.4.1 in holland |
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| 21:18.08 | idontwan2know | Let the "8:37 and nothing in Intercourse, PA" posts commence. |
| 21:19.03 | idontwan2know | Dunno why people think geography has anything to do with it. |
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| 22:21.02 | rwhitby | morning |
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| 22:22.49 | dthought | http://webos.pastebin.com/zKLRPM6M <- webos 1.4.1 filelist |
| 22:23.47 | zsoc | dthought: where is it out? |
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| 22:24.14 | zsoc | ah europe |
| 22:24.20 | scoutcamper | hi all |
| 22:24.48 | dthought | zsoc: germany here. i did crack up on copyiing those files, though :( |
| 22:24.48 | zsoc | woo European paid apps! |
| 22:25.08 | rwhitby | dthought: ok, kernel update there. |
| 22:25.17 | zsoc | that's a lot of package touches for a bugfix update |
| 22:25.23 | dthought | yes. kernel update. messaging app. modem firmware |
| 22:25.32 | dthought | 14MB Download |
| 22:25.55 | Tibfib | zsoc: lot's of bugs :P |
| 22:26.15 | Tibfib | s/lot's/lots |
| 22:26.42 | dthought | rwhitby: any idea where i still could find the update archive on the phone? |
| 22:26.54 | dthought | /dev/mapper/store-update is blank :( |
| 22:27.08 | rwhitby | dthought: it may still be in the umounted lvm partition |
| 22:27.19 | rwhitby | ah, it's probably deleted then |
| 22:27.32 | rwhitby | I usually rsync continuously while it's downloading |
| 22:27.46 | dthought | rwhitby: i tared it to /tmp |
| 22:27.56 | dthought | and scep it to my pc |
| 22:28.01 | dthought | then hit update |
| 22:28.10 | dthought | and scp did not work ... |
| 22:28.14 | dthought | hit update to early |
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| 22:34.04 | rwhitby | In other news, H.A.W.X is pretty awesome. |
| 22:34.45 | scoutcamper | rwhitby, mobile hotspot is out for O2!!!!!! |
| 22:36.02 | zsoc | scoutcamper: awesome |
| 22:36.18 | dthought | scoutcamper: mobilehotspotd is included in 1.4.1 , yeah |
| 22:37.17 | scoutcamper | wants to use mobile hotspot without paying $40 a month on vzw |
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| 22:50.42 | scoutcamper | did precentral go down? |
| 22:50.55 | scoutcamper | or is my interwebs phailwhaleing? |
| 22:52.32 | scoutcamper | anyone here? |
| 22:52.43 | scoutcamper | netsplit? |
| 22:55.43 | scoutcamper | nvm |
| 22:55.47 | scoutcamper | its back |
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| 23:07.43 | scoutcamper | wonders if anyone her has 1.4.1 on vzw yet |
| 23:15.12 | Mercury | 1.4.1 is out? |
| 23:15.13 | Mercury | Whee. |
| 23:16.18 | Kyusaku | I haven't checked for update(on sprint) |
| 23:16.39 | Kyusaku | don't want to drop 800Mhz patch yet |
| 23:16.39 | Mercury | Interesting, I wonder if they fixed the phone app crashing bug. |
| 23:18.05 | Kyusaku | the phone app is included in the filelist of the update so possibly |
| 23:18.25 | Kyusaku | Nice to see they fixed the crashing lock screen |
| 23:25.36 | Kyusaku | rwhitby: do you think it would be difficult for the author of justinput to modify his patch/service to something acceptable in Preware? |
| 23:26.32 | rwhitby | Kyusaku: probably not difficult |
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| 23:28.27 | Kyusaku | rwhitby: ok, I might discuss with him about making it maybe AUPT compatible and submitting to Preware after he finish making the Japanese IME version of it |
| 23:28.40 | rwhitby | yep |
| 23:29.50 | Kyusaku | he works pretty fast, also talked to the developer of MiniIME on using his IME dictionary |
| 23:30.47 | Kyusaku | major steps to internationalizing the Pre even further~ |
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| 23:53.01 | nt4cats | Vote early, vote often: http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2 |
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| 23:53.42 | Smubeht | just voted |
| 23:54.38 | mjkjr | so if I just slighly change the app id, maybe remove a " . " and then repackage the app that will stop showing updates needed. Am I correct? |
| 23:58.10 | nt4cats | hmmm I wonder what happens if I vote using any one of my VirtualBox VMs ... I'm stretching the 'vote often' part ... |
| 23:58.38 | Smubeht | that kind of thing works if 500 people do that |
| 23:58.44 | Smubeht | but if u accumulate 20 votes on ur own |
| 23:58.56 | Smubeht | its not going to change the end result realistically |
| 23:59.02 | Smubeht | if the votes are close then do that =P |
