| 00:03.01 | VincentLaw | to be honest, bpadalino I'd probably try to run it to the USB pins to make it easy on myself |
| 00:03.19 | VincentLaw | and I would be /shocked/ if it couldn't take a 1A source considering what it is :P |
| 00:03.32 | VincentLaw | most wall chargers put that sort of power out |
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| 00:23.22 | dtzWill | jacques: did you find what the heck happened to the GLES headers?! |
| 00:23.57 | dtzWill | everything that needs them now doesn't build... :( |
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| 00:24.04 | dtzWill | and i wanted to get everything building today, boo |
| 00:28.25 | hape_ | dtzWill: espeak builds now again and uses the svn and not the zip that chnages from time to time . |
| 00:28.39 | dtzWill | hape_: \o/ |
| 00:29.55 | hape_ | To make it possible I put some of the files that you need to compile with espeak into the git and cp them into the right place. I diden't find an other solution. |
| 00:30.42 | hape_ | The only other way would be to build a i86 espeak to only to compile the files and the do not chnage that often. |
| 00:33.18 | ka6sox | jacques, dyoung tried again and it worked in that section....(made it past freetype) but then failed elsewhere. |
| 00:33.49 | dtzWill | hape_: :/ well at least it works |
| 00:34.25 | dtzWill | hape_: would you mind prefixing your commit messages with the project you're working on? "navit: fixed such and such", for example |
| 00:34.36 | dtzWill | hape_: it's definitely not just you but you're here and i was just looking :) |
| 00:35.38 | ka6sox | jacques, configure: error: XCB requires xsltproc. |
| 00:35.40 | ka6sox | just stopped |
| 00:35.40 | ka6sox | but thats not a sb2 problem |
| 00:35.40 | ka6sox | thats a build dep problem |
| 00:37.45 | jacques | ka6sox: yeah and that sounds familiar |
| 00:37.55 | jacques | ka6sox: I think that's been there a while |
| 00:38.15 | dtzWill | jacques: we need to list the build bugs so they can be fixed; i didn't know about that one :( |
| 00:38.25 | jacques | IIRC I installed native xsltproc |
| 00:38.39 | dtzWill | jacques: i think that's what i have going too :/ |
| 00:38.43 | dtzWill | (unintentinoally) |
| 00:39.14 | jacques | dtzWill: sorry for not reporting it more formally - I did mention it here in channel a couple of times |
| 00:39.27 | dtzWill | jacques: haha no i'm sorry that it's broken :/ |
| 00:39.39 | jacques | I'm not sure of the best solution - installing native xsltproc might be it |
| 00:39.39 | dtzWill | jacques: not your fault at all, didn't mean to blame you :) |
| 00:39.51 | jacques | np I didn't take it that way |
| 00:40.55 | jacques | ka6sox: intermittent qemu segfaults we have seen before - we decided it was just qemu instability |
| 00:41.27 | jacques | ka6sox: TBH, I haven't used 9.04 in a while tho, and I no longer get those - tke that FWIW |
| 00:41.48 | ka6sox | what are you using now? |
| 00:42.00 | jacques | ka6sox: I assume after installing 9.04, you (or dyoung) updated to latest packages? I always do that |
| 00:42.17 | ka6sox | 10.4? |
| 00:42.17 | ka6sox | most likely |
| 00:42.24 | ka6sox | dyoung set it up. |
| 00:42.25 | ka6sox | :D |
| 00:42.34 | dtzWill | jacques: i'll stage libxslt i suppose |
| 00:43.09 | jacques | ka6sox: yeah now I'm using 10.04, and before that, 9.10 extensively |
| 00:43.47 | ka6sox | okay we are on 9.10 |
| 00:43.47 | ka6sox | (karmic) |
| 00:44.32 | jacques | dtzWill: you like that solution better than adding an additional build system requirement? (I have no strong feelings either way) |
| 00:44.47 | jacques | just apt-get install xsltproc is much easier :-) |
| 00:48.22 | dtzWill | jacques: it's being difficult to stage, looks like apt-get it is :) |
| 00:49.59 | dtzWill | ka6sox: it's gonna fail as soon as it hits something that needs GLES headers :( |
| 00:50.04 | dtzWill | bbl all |
| 00:50.18 | nt4cats | all of the sudden I can't push to gitorious :/ |
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| 00:54.43 | rwhitby-pre | Any Preware 1.1.0 problems reported yet? |
| 00:55.47 | ka6sox | not that I"ve seen all day |
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| 01:05.53 | nt4cats | Ubuntu LiveCDs are strange strange things |
| 01:06.49 | PrimerFender | rwhitby, you saw my reply yes? I was upgrading from 1.0.0 |
| 01:07.30 | rwhitby-pre | yep, that's expected for upgrade from 1.0.0 |
| 01:07.35 | PrimerFender | ok |
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| 01:22.01 | slashcom | Does anyone know how to create a serial device out of a palm pre? Preferably over usb? I'm trying to connect my palm to a arduino microcontroller. |
| 01:22.09 | slashcom | i was hoping to have the palm pre act as the usb host and just use the usb line as a serial port, but that's seeming like it is unlikely |
| 01:23.02 | bpadalino | i don't think anyone's been able to get the pre to be a host yet |
| 01:24.11 | slashcom | yeah, that's what my googling seemed to yield |
| 01:24.15 | slashcom | i thought it'd be worth asking |
| 01:24.44 | bpadalino | you're free to try to get it to work .. |
| 01:25.04 | bpadalino | there is apparently a usb host shield for arduino .. |
| 01:25.34 | bpadalino | and we know enough about novacomd to be able to transfer files and operate a shell |
| 01:26.44 | slashcom | yeah, the host shield might be the way to go |
| 01:26.48 | slashcom | or maybe the bluetooth shield |
| 01:27.17 | bpadalino | nah, i'd say usb host .. bt stack isn't as open/well known |
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| 01:27.36 | curtiss | heyg |
| 01:27.41 | curtiss | hey |
| 01:27.51 | bpadalino | hi |
| 01:27.52 | slashcom | yeah, good point |
| 01:28.16 | curtiss | can some one help me get the onscreen keybpard? |
| 01:28.56 | curtiss | keyboard* |
| 01:29.15 | bpadalino | sorry, i don't know anything about the on screen keyboard |
| 01:29.30 | curtiss | damn |
| 01:29.37 | bpadalino | someone else may |
| 01:30.20 | curtiss | geh I can't read what you guys said |
| 01:30.31 | ka6sox | why? |
| 01:30.31 | curtiss | some links are in the way |
| 01:30.53 | ka6sox | I only ssh into my pre |
| 01:30.55 | curtiss | I can see it now |
| 01:31.29 | bpadalino | i actually use novaterm mostly |
| 01:31.29 | curtiss | do any of you know how to get preware and the keyboard? |
| 01:31.41 | ka6sox | ~preware |
| 01:32.09 | curtiss | ? |
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| 01:32.22 | ka6sox | http://www.webos-internals.org |
| 01:32.25 | bpadalino | you can install preware from the instructions at http://install.preware.org |
| 01:32.35 | ka6sox | there you go! |
| 01:32.58 | curtiss | I'll try from that site thanks |
| 01:33.03 | curtiss | I was getting confused |
| 01:33.28 | bpadalino | it's ok |
| 01:34.43 | curtiss | do I have to do this on m computer? |
| 01:35.09 | bpadalino | yeah, can't quite install it only from the pre .. need some PC action |
| 01:35.20 | curtiss | ahh |
| 01:35.22 | curtiss | lol |
| 01:35.36 | curtiss | that might have been my problem |
| 01:36.21 | curtiss | well I'll do it another time |
| 01:36.26 | bpadalino | okie dokie |
| 01:36.27 | bpadalino | good luck |
| 01:36.28 | curtiss | thanks guys |
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| 01:43.18 | laknbawill | hello? |
| 01:43.35 | laknbawill | is this where i go to get help with preware? |
| 01:43.35 | bpadalino | hi |
| 01:43.48 | bpadalino | possibly .. depending on what help you need |
| 01:44.10 | laknbawill | wait...i think i figured it out :) |
| 01:44.39 | bpadalino | nice |
| 01:44.47 | bpadalino | just joining the channel solves problems :) |
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| 01:46.38 | jacques | :-) |
| 01:46.39 | laknbawill | okay im back |
| 01:46.49 | laknbawill | after i installed preware how do i find themes? |
| 01:48.07 | jacques | enable themes feed/s and update feeds |
| 01:48.22 | jacques | bear in mind I have never actually used themes |
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| 01:49.17 | slashcom | bpadalino: thanks for your help |
| 01:49.23 | laknbawill | how do you enable themes feeds? |
| 01:50.06 | jacques | there is a menu which allows you to configure feeds |
| 01:53.22 | laknbawill | i got it...THANKS! |
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| 01:55.11 | laknbawill | it gave me an error message said "there is alread a theme installed. remove any installed themes before continuing" how do i do this? |
| 01:56.24 | jacques | is there already a theme installed? |
| 01:56.38 | laknbawill | yeah, but how do i remove it to install a new one? |
| 01:57.15 | jacques | maybe uninstall it using whatever you used t install it |
| 01:57.29 | laknbawill | preware? |
| 01:57.52 | laknbawill | i used WebOS Quick Install |
| 01:58.05 | jacques | I would try that to uninstall it |
| 01:58.26 | jacques | it's likely that preware cannot remove a theme it didn't install |
| 01:58.35 | laknbawill | okay ill try it |
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| 02:02.01 | laknbawill | no, same error message |
| 02:02.05 | laknbawill | this sucks |
| 02:02.20 | bpadalino | ruh roh |
| 02:03.22 | laknbawill | has anyone used preware to install themes? |
| 02:03.54 | bpadalino | is there a more detailed log you can share ? |
| 02:04.15 | laknbawill | what do you mean? |
| 02:04.28 | jacques | laknbawill: you removed the theme with WOSQI and preware still says it cannot install a new theme? |
| 02:04.40 | laknbawill | yes |
| 02:04.42 | jacques | laknbawill: what version of preware are you using? |
| 02:04.50 | jacques | I wonder if it's a 1.1.0 things |
| 02:04.59 | laknbawill | how do i check? |
| 02:05.01 | jacques | s/gs/s/ |
| 02:05.05 | laknbawill | im new to this |
| 02:05.18 | jacques | ugh, power glitch |
| 02:05.39 | jacques | laknbawill: preware should show you the version number near the top of the window when it starts |
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| 02:06.21 | laknbawill | 1.1.0 |
| 02:07.01 | laknbawill | v1.1.0 |
| 02:07.45 | jacques | yeah that's the latest, and I don't know how much it has been tested with themes |
| 02:07.54 | jacques | :-| |
| 02:09.23 | laknbawill | its cool, kind of frustrating that i cant figure it out |
| 02:09.31 | rwhitby | laknbawill: need to see the IPKG log. email it to yourself, then put it on webos.pastebin.com |
| 02:10.44 | laknbawill | ok |
| 02:11.12 | jacques | laknbawill: uh oh, you've awakened the rwhitby |
| 02:14.19 | laknbawill | i submited it |
| 02:15.15 | jacques | http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/22/hp-taiwan-reportedly-reaffirms-pre-october-launch-for-webos-tabl/ |
| 02:15.19 | jacques | can't wait! |
| 02:15.21 | ka6sox | whats the url to the pastebin? |
| 02:15.27 | bpadalino | http://webos.pastebin.com/d2vfGCZy |
| 02:16.21 | jacques | bpadalino: sweet - so that's why we use webos.pastebin.com |
| 02:16.42 | jacques | ka6sox: on left side of screen it shows recent submits |
| 02:17.09 | ka6sox | oh kewl. |
| 02:17.25 | rwhitby | laknbawill: can you get a command line on the device? |
| 02:17.34 | laknbawill | how? |
| 02:17.44 | rwhitby | webos quick install perhaps? |
| 02:18.11 | laknbawill | ill see |
| 02:18.14 | rwhitby | laknbawill: what is the name of the theme? |
| 02:18.51 | laknbawill | its the 300 theme...lol, but ive tried several themes and got the same message |
| 02:19.09 | ka6sox | laknbawill, install a terminal program from preware or openssh from optware. |
| 02:20.15 | laknbawill | youll have to excuess my in-experience...whats a terminal program? |
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| 02:21.33 | laknbawill | Terminal service plugin? |
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| 02:23.33 | jacques | laknbawill: a terminal app will give you a linux command line in a window on the phone |
| 02:24.06 | jacques | but command line using WOSQI would probably be better in case you have to cut and paste things |
| 02:24.09 | laknbawill | okay, i installed "Terminal service plugin" |
| 02:24.29 | jacques | laknbawill: there is a terminal app that goes with that - the plugin alone is not enough |
| 02:25.46 | laknbawill | im installing "Terminal" |
| 02:25.56 | laknbawill | do i launch it? |
| 02:26.31 | rwhitby | laknbawill: I just installed the 300 theme on a fresh webOS 1.4.2 device using Preware 1.1.0 with no errors. |
| 02:27.16 | laknbawill | I envy you...it wont work for me. what do i do with "Terminal" |
| 02:27.48 | rwhitby | laknbawill: what did you use to install it? |
| 02:27.55 | laknbawill | preware |
| 02:27.55 | jacques | rwhitby: I think laknbawill's issue is related to him already having a theme installed with WOSQI |
| 02:28.09 | rwhitby | oh, you used WOSQI to install a theme? |
| 02:28.15 | laknbawill | yeah |
| 02:28.16 | rwhitby | what version of WOSQI? |
| 02:28.34 | laknbawill | 3.12 |
| 02:28.53 | rwhitby | so did you uninstall it with WOSQI? |
| 02:29.29 | laknbawill | i believe so... i pushed the revert to default button. |
| 02:29.40 | rwhitby | and did that work? |
| 02:30.05 | laknbawill | i got that message before i did that, and after |
| 02:30.20 | rwhitby | what message, before what, and after what? |
| 02:30.35 | rwhitby | 300 theme uninstalled fine with preware too |
| 02:30.59 | laknbawill | the same message |
| 02:31.08 | bpadalino | the error message ? |
| 02:31.28 | bpadalino | that log looks like there is a text file missing somewhere |
| 02:31.36 | rwhitby | what message, before what, and after what? |
| 02:31.46 | laknbawill | yeah, the same error message |
| 02:31.52 | rwhitby | what message, before what, and after what? |
| 02:31.54 | bpadalino | heh |
| 02:32.08 | bpadalino | rwhitby: the one he posted is here: http://webos.pastebin.com/d2vfGCZy (i believe) |
| 02:32.26 | rwhitby | bpadalino: that's not a message from WOSQI |
| 02:32.30 | bpadalino | oh |
| 02:32.34 | bpadalino | right - it's not |
| 02:32.44 | laknbawill | i didnt get a message from WOSQ |
| 02:32.50 | laknbawill | II |
| 02:32.51 | bpadalino | this is like who's on first :) |
| 02:33.16 | rwhitby | laknbawill: ok, you're currently failing on communicating here. you're the one asking for help, so you need to fix that. |
| 02:33.35 | rwhitby | let's start again |
| 02:33.44 | rwhitby | so did you uninstall it with WOSQI? |
| 02:33.44 | laknbawill | okay... |
| 02:34.06 | laknbawill | yes, i pushed the revert to default button under the themer tab |
| 02:34.12 | rwhitby | and did that work? |
| 02:34.37 | laknbawill | yes, i got the default themer |
| 02:34.57 | rwhitby | so no error message |
| 02:35.01 | laknbawill | no |
| 02:35.09 | rwhitby | and the device did a luna restart? |
| 02:35.15 | laknbawill | yes |
| 02:35.20 | rwhitby | and the theme was gone? |
| 02:35.24 | rwhitby | (visually) |
| 02:35.41 | laknbawill | yeah, the phone restarted |
| 02:36.01 | rwhitby | it was probably just the UI restarting, not the whole phone |
| 02:36.22 | rwhitby | (but it's hard to tell the difference between those two if you're not familiar with both) |
| 02:36.22 | laknbawill | okay... |
| 02:36.29 | rwhitby | ok, so what happened next? |
| 02:36.34 | laknbawill | im not, i got my phone last week |
| 02:36.55 | laknbawill | i tried to install 300 theme and i got that message |
| 02:37.20 | rwhitby | what theme did you install and then remove before that with WOSQI? |
| 02:37.33 | laknbawill | abstrack black |
| 02:37.57 | rwhitby | ok, one minute while I reproduce that here and see what state the filesystem is in after that |
| 02:38.09 | laknbawill | ok |
| 02:38.24 | rwhitby | laknbawill: this is a webOS 1.4.2 device, right? |
| 02:38.37 | laknbawill | ill see |
| 02:39.04 | laknbawill | palm webO |
| 02:39.14 | laknbawill | S 1.4.1.1 |
| 02:40.23 | rwhitby | ok, I'm testing on a 1.4.2, but it should be the same |
| 02:40.33 | laknbawill | ok |
| 02:42.10 | rwhitby | laknbawill: ok, to confirm, you installed Abstract Black with WOSQI, then reverted to default with WOSQI, then attempted to install 300 with Preware. correct? |
| 02:42.26 | laknbawill | yes |
| 02:44.37 | jacques | dtzWill: you still about: |
| 02:44.39 | jacques | ? |
| 02:45.23 | laknbawill | is that me? |
| 02:45.31 | jacques | looks like xorg-server also won't build due to changes in SDL: |
| 02:45.35 | jacques | ../../../../src/hw/kdrive/sdl/sdl.c:248: error: 'SDL_OPENGLES' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:45.46 | jacques | (same problem as I see with glues-demos) |
| 02:45.54 | bpadalino | weird .. they got rid of it in the patches ? |
| 02:45.56 | rwhitby | laknbawill: ok, I can't reproduce your problem here, but I can see what is triggering it |
| 02:46.06 | jacques | bpadalino: that's what I currently think |
| 02:46.10 | laknbawill | that would be nice |
| 02:46.17 | bpadalino | strange |
| 02:46.20 | bpadalino | i wonder what happened |
| 02:46.21 | rwhitby | laknbawill: what version of Preware were you using? |
| 02:46.42 | jacques | bpadalino: and in all SDL patches after 1.4.0, two includes are missing (having to do with opengles) |
| 02:46.44 | laknbawill | v1.1.0 |
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| 02:46.58 | jacques | SDL_opengles_ext.h and SDL_opengles.h |
| 02:47.01 | rwhitby | laknbawill: if you connect again with WOSQI, does it think you have a theme installed? |
| 02:47.23 | laknbawill | no |
| 02:47.24 | bpadalino | i wonder if they didn't have the rights to post those headers ? |
| 02:47.58 | rwhitby | laknbawill: open the Linux Command Line window in WOSQI |
| 02:48.16 | laknbawill | its open |
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| 02:48.49 | jacques | bpadalino: I copied the ones from the 1.4.0 patch, but no go - something more fundamental has changed |
| 02:48.58 | bpadalino | :( |
| 02:49.12 | jacques | it will take me a while to sort it out |
| 02:49.28 | jacques | I just wanted to see if anyone else had the same problem building xorg-server |
| 02:49.46 | rwhitby | laknbawill: have you used a Linux command line before? |
| 02:49.51 | laknbawill | no |
| 02:50.04 | laknbawill | i took a C+ class at CSUB |
| 02:50.12 | rwhitby | laknbawill: can you cut and paste from this window into that window? |
| 02:50.12 | laknbawill | not sure if thats the same or not |
| 02:50.30 | laknbawill | yes |
| 02:50.53 | jacques | "gzip -dc libsdl-1.2-patch.gz | grep SDL_OPENGLES" shows SDL_OPENGLES still used but not defined |
| 02:51.05 | bpadalino | yeah you actually see SDL_opengles.h in there too |
| 02:51.10 | bpadalino | using it rather |
| 02:51.12 | bpadalino | but not it in there |
| 02:51.30 | jacques | yep |
| 02:51.40 | rwhitby | laknbawill: I will tell you some commands to cut and paste. you should cut and paste back the result if it's a single line, or use webos.pastebin.com if it's more than one line (and then paste the one line URL it gives you here). OK? |
| 02:51.48 | jacques | the install portion still refers to those two files |
| 02:52.02 | laknbawill | ok |
| 02:52.21 | rwhitby | laknbawill: ls -l /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/webos-quick-install/theme.xml |
| 02:53.01 | laknbawill | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 226222 Apr 7 23:47 /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/webos-quick-install/theme.xml |
| 02:53.31 | rwhitby | ok, that's the problem. the existence of that file means that a theme is installed. |
| 02:53.51 | laknbawill | ok |
| 02:53.52 | rwhitby | if wosqi correctly reverted the theme, it should have removed that file. |
| 02:54.20 | laknbawill | i see |
| 02:54.29 | laknbawill | how else can i get rid of that file? |
| 02:54.41 | rwhitby | you should report this in the WOSQI thread, asking Jason Robitaille why WOSQI did not remove that file when it reverted the theme, and why it doesn't recognise that a theme is installed when the file is there. |
| 02:54.52 | rwhitby | you're using WOSQI 3.12, right? can you double-confirm that? |
| 02:55.15 | laknbawill | yeah 3.12 |
| 02:55.28 | rwhitby | laknbawill: since that file is still there, I'm concerned that the theme has not been removed |
| 02:55.50 | laknbawill | ok |
| 02:56.02 | rwhitby | laknbawill: you should use the WebOS Repair Utility to verify that your webOS files are not modified |
| 02:56.24 | bpadalino | jacques: hrmmm .. so if you add the sdl_opengles.h file back - it doesn't fix anything ? |
| 02:56.40 | laknbawill | wheres the repair utility? |
| 02:56.53 | rwhitby | laknbawill: if it reports that all your webOS files are ok, then you can remove that file with the following command: |
| 02:57.02 | rwhitby | laknbawill: rm -f /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/webos-quick-install/theme.xml |
| 02:57.18 | rwhitby | laknbawill: make sure you don't make any mistakes cutting and pasting that command |
| 02:57.42 | rwhitby | laknbawill: after that, the theme should allow itself to be installed |
| 02:57.46 | laknbawill | do i use the repair utility, or just enter that command |
| 02:57.47 | laknbawill | ? |
| 02:58.05 | rwhitby | well, what did I say? |
| 02:58.13 | rwhitby | laknbawill: you should use the WebOS Repair Utility to verify that your webOS files are not modified |
| 02:58.16 | rwhitby | laknbawill: if it reports that all your webOS files are ok, then you can remove that file with the following command: |
| 02:58.31 | laknbawill | ok...where is the repair utility? |
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| 02:58.37 | rwhitby | google knows |
| 02:58.53 | laknbawill | is that the WebOS Doctor? |
| 02:59.18 | rwhitby | no |
| 03:01.48 | laknbawill | ok, im running repair utility...thanks for your help |
| 03:01.53 | laknbawill | i really appreciate it |
| 03:18.42 | dtzWill | jacques: i told you xorg-server/other GLES apps all would fail hours ago haha |
| 03:19.09 | dtzWill | anyway yeah they fail |
| 03:19.13 | dtzWill | and we need those headers |
| 03:19.15 | PrimerFender | laknbawill: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=WebOS+Repair+Utility ;-) |
| 03:19.32 | dtzWill | i really don't see it as fault in xorg/other apps, i mean we should be able to build GLES apps... |
| 03:19.45 | bpadalino | i wonder why the header isn't there |
| 03:24.38 | dtzWill | yeah that's lame |
| 03:24.51 | bpadalino | looks like it's an SGI header as well .. |
| 03:24.54 | bpadalino | which is a little weird anyway |
| 03:25.07 | zsoc | what header is missing and what needs it |
| 03:25.15 | dtzWill | wonder if it's now considered part of the PDK or something |
| 03:25.27 | dtzWill | zsoc: the SDL GLES headers are gone from recent versions |
| 03:25.34 | dtzWill | zsoc: and everything that uses GLES needs it |
| 03:26.13 | zsoc | dtzWill: are the headers in the PDK? i can get it staging in the widk... |
| 03:26.39 | bpadalino | the libsdl patch from palm.com doesn't have SDL_opengles.h, but references it |
| 03:27.39 | zsoc | http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/SDL-1.3-docs/SDL__opengles_8h-source.html <-- ? |
| 03:28.24 | bpadalino | zsoc, the real question is "why did palm not include it in the newer patches, but in the older patches?" |
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| 03:31.10 | zsoc | bpadalino: they forgot? |
| 03:31.55 | bpadalino | possibly i guess |
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| 03:38.03 | fefner | Does preware void the warranty? |
| 03:38.16 | rwhitby | fefner: no, but overclocking does. |
| 03:38.23 | fefner | What is overclocking? |
| 03:38.59 | rwhitby | fefner: installing the UberKernel package |
| 03:39.50 | fefner | Hm. I'll have to look into that. Pretty much what I'm looking for is a little more personality in my device. Installing themes, running emulators, etc. |
| 03:40.08 | fefner | I take it Preware is what I need to do that? |
| 03:40.38 | zsoc | fefner: it's the best way, yes |
| 03:40.57 | rwhitby | fefner: yes, and none of that voids the warranty (even if some Sprint store managers try to tell you otherwise). Just do a full erase and webOS Doctor before taking it anywhere near a carrier representative. |
| 03:41.41 | fefner | Fantastic. One more question: How do I put my device in dev mode? I just got my Palm Pre Plus today and am still learning. |
| 03:42.03 | rwhitby | fefner: what google search terms have you tried for that so far? |
| 03:42.22 | fefner | Tushe |
| 03:42.29 | fefner | Suppose I should go to google first huh hahaha |
| 03:42.32 | fefner | Thank you for your time |
| 03:42.42 | rwhitby | fefner: no worries - have fun. |
| 03:43.35 | Spyral | *Touché |
| 03:43.50 | Spyral | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.58 | jacques | bpadalino: correct, adding the opengles includes back does not fix the build |
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| 03:50.36 | jacques | dtzWill: oh I missed it when you told me :-( |
| 03:50.44 | jacques | or forgot |
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| 04:27.22 | ka6sox | jacques, do you have the GLES headers someplace? |
| 04:29.28 | bpadalino | it's still in the libsdl patch from 1.4.0 .. just not in 1.4.1.1 or 1.4.2 ..not sure what the sdl changes were from 1.4.0 to 1.4.1.1 |
| 04:31.11 | zsoc | could do a patch diff |
| 04:31.27 | zsoc | ha, that was a bit oxymoronic.. i meant a diff on the two patch versions |
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| 05:12.35 | jacques | unfortunately just adding the headers back in did not fix the build for me. there is more to the changes I guess. |
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| 05:31.18 | Gollyzila|comp | Why is it that every time I tap a PDK app on my Sprint 1.4.1.1 Pre, I always get the Too Many Cards Error even though there are no cards open. What could be running in the background that's eating my phone's memory? |
| 05:32.08 | rwhitby | LunaSysMgr usually |
| 05:32.25 | zsoc|away | Gollyzila|comp: the underlying cause is generally agreed to be the JVM, which is going away in the near future |
| 05:32.32 | zsoc|away | wait, i'm away. crap. |
| 05:32.40 | Gollyzila|comp | busted |
| 05:32.40 | zsoc|away | uh... ignore i said anything. |
| 05:33.17 | Gollyzila|comp | is there a command I can use to see what's running in the background on my phone? |
| 05:33.42 | rwhitby | yep, ps -ef |
| 05:33.47 | rwhitby | or top |
| 05:39.40 | Gollyzila|comp | why does LunaSysMgr use up so much memory? |
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| 05:43.09 | ka6sox | Gollyzila|comp, look a the res number...not the virt |
| 05:43.42 | Gollyzila|comp | ooooo i see now |
| 05:44.02 | ka6sox | the res number is what is resident in memory |
| 05:44.26 | Gollyzila|comp | wow, the list in top changes quickly |
| 05:44.50 | jacques | hit M |
| 05:46.13 | Gollyzila|comp | BrowserServer is the phone using the internet? |
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| 07:15.05 | shelob101 | I'm using the terminal app and I wonder if anyone knows how to gen the equals sign char |
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| 07:19.44 | rwhitby | blob+P ? |
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| 07:22.05 | shelob101 | tx rwhitby! that's what I get for typing in the dark :) |
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| 08:06.11 | hape_ | dtzWill: will prefix next time. Thanks for the hint. Youre right therer are to many 'subprojects' |
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| 08:43.32 | dtzWill | jacques: what errors? :) |
| 08:43.55 | dtzWill | hape_: sounds good, thanks. and yeah lots of subprojects :D |
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| 13:34.59 | liz | hey |
| 13:35.14 | liz | hello. |
| 13:35.17 | liz | hi. |
| 13:35.21 | bpadalino | good morning |
| 13:35.32 | Guest63122 | i need help |
| 13:35.34 | bpadalino | uh oh |
| 13:35.38 | bpadalino | what's wrong ? |
| 13:35.48 | Guest63122 | im trying to download an on screen keyboard |
| 13:35.55 | bpadalino | ok |
| 13:35.58 | Guest63122 | i need the preware software |
| 13:36.04 | Guest63122 | how? |
| 13:36.29 | bpadalino | http://install.preware.org is where i usually go |
| 13:36.38 | bpadalino | it has all the information you need on how to install preware |
| 13:37.14 | Guest63122 | so u have it on ur pre? |
| 13:37.50 | bpadalino | i have preware, yes - most people in the channel do |
| 13:38.32 | Guest63122 | oh. ok. well i guess ill try 2 go install it so i can get an onscreen keyboard. thanks |
| 13:38.43 | bpadalino | good luck |
| 13:38.54 | Guest63122 | :) |
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| 14:18.14 | swisstomcat | hi |
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| 14:39.27 | bpadalino | hi |
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| 15:10.59 | sbromwich | rwhitby: ping? |
| 15:11.28 | sbromwich | I'm trying to get 1.4.1-28 compiled but the autobuilder doesn't seem to be building it... is there a log somewhere I can check? |
| 15:11.51 | nt4cats | I finally found out where the livecd user is created on an Ubuntu livecd |
| 15:12.06 | sbromwich | from http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=kernels/patches.git;a=summary |
| 15:12.45 | sbromwich | anyway... my son wants to go down to the pub |
| 15:12.47 | sbromwich | bbl |
| 15:12.50 | nt4cats | Maybe all livecds are this way, but this setup would make rube goldberg proud |
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| 16:40.22 | DrFunk | anyone around for a preware ? |
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| 16:43.16 | DrFunk | trying to run preware and I'm getting the service is too old try to reboot did that still the same |
| 16:43.26 | DrFunk | should I reinstall ? |
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| 17:52.04 | bpadalino | Jtee: rwhitby is in australia and probably isn't awake .. but someone else may know more about preware and the C service |
| 17:53.18 | Jtee | The question is, does new preware install contain package manager? Can I delete package manager if i'm running the latest preware? |
| 17:57.14 | swisstomcat | hello |
| 17:57.46 | swisstomcat | the new preware >=1.0.0 contains the service and it will/should remove the old java package manager service on installation |
| 18:02.04 | Jtee | swisstomcat, looks like that's exactly what it did... |
| 18:02.25 | swisstomcat | does it work now? |
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| 18:03.59 | greg__ | hello, i could use some help |
| 18:04.08 | swisstomcat | go ahead |
| 18:04.36 | greg__ | i installed preware just like it said and theres no app on my device for me to run it |
| 18:05.14 | swisstomcat | you mean no preware icon in the launcher? |
| 18:05.22 | greg__ | yes |
| 18:05.35 | swisstomcat | which instructions did you follow? |
| 18:05.51 | greg__ | the ones here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware |
| 18:06.33 | swisstomcat | with webosquickinstall? |
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| 18:07.25 | greg__ | yeah |
| 18:08.10 | swisstomcat | any (error) messages while installing? |
| 18:08.21 | greg__ | none at all |
| 18:09.03 | swisstomcat | i assume that there must be some sort of message |
| 18:09.08 | swisstomcat | error or otherwise |
| 18:09.11 | swisstomcat | when you install |
| 18:09.22 | swisstomcat | can you try again and post all the steps you're doing? |
| 18:09.46 | greg__ | there wasnt any messages except for one the popped up in a black window and said service has been removed |
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| 18:22.59 | newuser | hi I just got my pre yesterday. I'm trying to ise preware to theme but it's doesn't show available themes. Can anyone help me |
| 18:23.36 | bpadalino | heh, amusing |
| 18:32.55 | swisstomcat | newuser: did you check the feed settings to see if themes are enabled? |
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| 19:00.56 | nt4cats | ~seen rwhitby |
| 19:00.59 | infobot | rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals (1d 17h 15m 29s) #oe (1d 17h 15m 29s) #meego (1d 17h 15m 29s) #nslu2-linux (1d 17h 15m 29s). Has said a total of 140 messages. Is idling for 11h 41m 15s, last said: 'blob+P ?'. |
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| 19:04.45 | Decimate | hi everyone |
| 19:05.04 | nt4cats | ~preware-bootstrap |
| 19:05.05 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, preware-bootstrap is cd /tmp; wget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap; sh preware-bootstrap |
| 19:05.43 | nt4cats | does bit.ly let you change the URL? |
| 19:10.11 | swisstomcat | why? |
| 19:11.39 | swisstomcat | afterwards you mean? |
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| 19:49.20 | bpadalino | oh hey, it's 2 weeks until webos' birthday .. |
| 19:50.28 | swisstomcat | wohoo |
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| 19:50.46 | swisstomcat | http://wiki.froscamp.org/2010:Call_for_Projects |
| 19:51.37 | bpadalino | neat |
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| 19:55.41 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: right now I have a webos-internals sort of file hosted on one of my S3 buckets. |
| 19:55.56 | swisstomcat | hmm? |
| 19:55.57 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: .. and I need to burn a [bit.ly] URL into a livecd |
| 19:56.03 | swisstomcat | oh |
| 19:56.26 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: ... so I'd like to burn the URL in now and let rwhitby re-host the file (and then I'll 'move' the URL) later |
| 19:57.32 | nt4cats | While I don't doubt that a [big] part of the problem is the tool/technique I'm using to make a LiveCD .. it is a PAIN IN THE ASS to spin one off. If I want to change one character it takes 30 minutes |
| 19:58.38 | swisstomcat | maybe http://bitly.pro/? |
| 20:07.40 | nt4cats | okay, other than one stupid error in the grub.conf this livecd is ready (for its 0.0001 release) |
| 20:09.22 | nt4cats | well, it works in virtualbox, I guess I should burn it to a disc first |
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| 20:21.04 | zsoc | nt4cats: good work |
| 20:28.38 | nt4cats | zsoc: there's more we could do with it -- I think you were the one that proposed we add script(s) to auto-magically install preware |
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| 20:29.49 | zsoc | nt4cats: yeah. "1.) put in this cd, 2.) reboot" |
| 20:30.05 | zsoc | "please connect phone", "preware is now installed, please remove cd, your computer will now reboot" |
| 20:30.50 | nt4cats | right now you put it in and it boots to a gnome desktop with a "novaterm bootstrap" icon on it -- you double-click the icon and it downloads the latest novaterm-bootstrap script and then executes it |
| 20:31.49 | nt4cats | I think the easiest/best thing to do is to enhance novaterm-bootstrap.sh so that after it runs (if it detects it is running on a livecd) it can add a "install preware" icon onto the desktop |
| 20:32.19 | nt4cats | I'm doing everything I can to never have to update the livecd. Ever. |
| 20:32.31 | zsoc | nt4cats: yeah, and maybe have a detection for novacom stuff.. or give an option for novacom vs precom, and then explain how to put device in dev mode if it isn't detected |
| 20:33.25 | nt4cats | I already have a "detect if a webOS device in developer mode is connected" script, too (one that doesn't depend on novacom or precom |
| 20:33.45 | zsoc | cool |
| 20:35.05 | nt4cats | I think the tool/technique I selected to make livecd's sorta sucks -- the build time is 20+ minutes. It is a royal pain |
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| 20:36.40 | zsoc | nt4cats: that honestly sounds about right, unfortunately |
| 20:37.37 | nt4cats | .. so I want to dick around getting the grub boot configuration right, and there is a 20-30 minute "tax" with each attempt. |
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| 20:40.51 | zsoc | nt4cats: been there. there's probably a better way to test all that locally with just a VM reboot, but if you're almost done it may not be worth setting up an env like that :) |
| 20:48.29 | nt4cats | I'm not actually rebooting my laptop ... I'm making a new iso and then booting that iso in a VM ... |
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| 20:51.52 | Vince42 | after upgrading preware to 1.1 it says that the service version is too old. I rebooted the phone but it did not do the trick - is reinstallation really the only way? |
| 20:53.00 | swisstomcat | upgrading from which version? |
| 20:53.17 | Vince42 | was upgrading from 1.0.0 to 1.1.0 |
| 20:53.59 | swisstomcat | did you reboot? |
| 20:55.09 | Vince42 | yip - it didn't do the trick unfortunately |
| 20:55.15 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 20:55.41 | swisstomcat | reinstall would be the next thing to try |
| 20:55.48 | Vince42 | i don't mind reinstalling, but i would prefer to fix this via command line or something like that |
| 20:56.03 | swisstomcat | you can reinstall via the command line |
| 20:56.28 | swisstomcat | open a command line |
| 20:56.36 | Vince42 | yes, go on please |
| 20:56.42 | swisstomcat | cd /tmp |
| 20:56.57 | swisstomcat | wget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap |
| 20:57.05 | swisstomcat | sh -x preware-bootstrap |
| 20:57.32 | Vince42 | ah, okay |
| 20:57.40 | Vince42 | that was what i was looking for :) |
| 20:58.06 | Vince42 | cuz as this could happen away from the office with no usb cable, i prefer to know the "dirty way" :) |
| 20:58.35 | swisstomcat | yup, always good to know .. if you feel comfortable on the command line |
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| 20:59.33 | Vince42 | i do - i know my "usual" linux pretty well, but i am cautious when it comes to running commands on my phone, as there is usually no second option available after something fails :) |
| 20:59.45 | swisstomcat | very good |
| 20:59.59 | swisstomcat | just reboot after using that method |
| 21:00.26 | zsoc | swisstomcat: why reboot? |
| 21:00.32 | Vince42 | will do - just need to setup my ssh first on this comp (different environment) |
| 21:00.38 | zsoc | please stop rebooting your phones people |
| 21:00.40 | swisstomcat | zsoc: preware-bootstrap still calls rescan |
| 21:00.47 | zsoc | swisstomcat: oooohhhhhhh |
| 21:01.00 | zsoc | well tell him to open his dialer/messaging/email/calender apps after ;) |
| 21:01.17 | swisstomcat | guess that's a method too |
| 21:01.49 | swisstomcat | i wasn't going to say that preware-bootstrap kills your background services because of a webos bug :) |
| 21:01.49 | zsoc | i think someone (oil?) is working on a app to restart C services |
| 21:02.17 | swisstomcat | and the latest preware uses other methods as well |
| 21:02.22 | swisstomcat | to rescan |
| 21:02.58 | Tibfib | is that not what java restart does? |
| 21:03.12 | swisstomcat | what? |
| 21:03.22 | Tibfib | does it restart the email/phone etc services? |
| 21:03.35 | swisstomcat | i don't think so but i'm not sure |
| 21:03.48 | zsoc | Tibfib: i suppose yes, but that is all going away soon |
| 21:03.53 | swisstomcat | yup |
| 21:03.57 | swisstomcat | sooner or later |
| 21:04.19 | Tibfib | zsoc: oh yeah. not a permanent solution then |
| 21:04.54 | Vince42 | can i simply reboot the phone with "shutdown -r now"? |
| 21:05.22 | zsoc | or 'reboot' |
| 21:05.22 | zsoc | :> |
| 21:05.32 | Vince42 | how lame :) |
| 21:06.20 | Vince42 | thinks too complicated |
| 21:07.20 | swisstomcat | just uses the power button |
| 21:07.37 | ka6sox | Caught Sig[21] rebooting |
| 21:08.00 | Vince42 | does that usually too but unfortunately installed a patch, which hinders him from rebooting this way atm ... as it needs preware to be removed :P |
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| 21:14.03 | Vince42 | oh, btw, another funny issue i'd like to solve after this one: i installed some sudoku months ago - and after some os updateds it was gone - but he constantly seems to offer updates for this program, which i neither see nor want ... i guess there's some zombie entry somewhere ... how can i completely remove this unwanted app? |
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| 22:25.47 | swisstomcat | night |
| 22:27.00 | nt4cats | nite |
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| 23:12.16 | nt4cats | Okay, I like everything about this LiveCD I just made -- except for the LiveCD I based it off of, it is WAY too big. |
| 23:13.35 | ka6sox | nt4cats, what did you base it off of? |
| 23:14.00 | nt4cats | the ubuntu desktop "install" live cd |
| 23:14.14 | nt4cats | ... it has way way way more packages on it than we need |
| 23:14.47 | nt4cats | but I was trying to figure out things like how to make isolinux do what i wanted and how to get an icon on the liveCD users' desktop |
| 23:14.51 | ka6sox | looks like remix time! |
| 23:14.51 | nt4cats | (those problems are solved) |
| 23:15.45 | tmzt | what do you need the gui for? |
| 23:16.18 | nt4cats | tmzt: the target audience for this thing is windoze users -- I don't want them to have to use the command-line |
| 23:16.27 | tmzt | what's the goal? |
| 23:16.44 | nt4cats | you burn a CD, boot it, click the "novaterm bootstrap" icon, and you are ready to talk to your pre |
| 23:16.51 | nt4cats | (as long as your pre is already in developer mode) |
| 23:18.01 | tmzt | so you need X and a basic wm |
| 23:18.04 | nt4cats | I can think of a dozen things to do to it now to make it 'better' |
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| 23:18.09 | tmzt | might suggest openbox |
| 23:18.27 | tmzt | you don't need to seed ubuntu-desktop |
| 23:18.59 | nt4cats | tmzt: if you'd like to make a livecd based upon openbox, please do, I'd be glad to help you use my novaterm-bootstrap scripts. |
| 23:19.30 | nt4cats | tmzt: but this is the way I figured out how to make LiveCD's, and my time to learn new things is limited (I work for a startup and have young kids) |
| 23:19.54 | tmzt | I thought you were trying to make it smaller |
| 23:19.58 | tmzt | maybe I misunderstood |
| 23:20.19 | nt4cats | I am interested in making it smaller, but it is easier for me to take the image I have and remove packages from it than it would be to start over with a whole new distro |
| 23:20.25 | tmzt | I was only suggesting changing the packages included, not changing distros or removing casper or anything |
| 23:21.14 | nt4cats | Right now it is probably a 700M download. I bet by removing a boatload of packages I can get it down under 200M, probably more like 100M. At that point I'll be satisfied |
| 23:21.18 | tmzt | for instance, ubuntu-minimal, xserver-xorg (same seed as desktop), openbox, some kind of simple menubar, a few other packages |
| 23:21.51 | nt4cats | tmzt: I am sure that with careful building this whole thing could be < 50M |
| 23:21.53 | tmzt | so your mounting and rebuilding the loopfs? |
| 23:22.20 | nt4cats | I'm using a tool called UCK (Ubuntu Customization Kit) |
| 23:22.33 | tmzt | then there's probably a text file of packages to seed |
| 23:23.40 | nt4cats | I am sure I can trim it pretty well. I am hesitant to remove gnome, as I already have the graphics elements and desktop icon setup, etc. working. |
| 23:24.23 | nt4cats | tmzt: if you have any time and interest, I'd be glad to give you a URL to download my too-fat image and I'd be glad to have your help trimming it. |
| 23:24.48 | nt4cats | otherwise I'll take a swipe at removing pacakges and see what I can do to make the download more reasonable |
| 23:26.04 | tmzt | well okay but you'll have a hard time getting it down without removing gnome |
| 23:26.08 | tmzt | or a major part of it |
| 23:26.22 | tmzt | surgery with dpkg -r can be fun but it has it's limits for maintaining sanity |
| 23:27.00 | nt4cats | tmzt: is there a such thing as an ubuntu-minimal live cd already cooked up? |
| 23:27.11 | nt4cats | (with some sort of basic GUI) |
| 23:28.04 | tmzt | there's xubuntu |
| 23:28.43 | nt4cats | I see ubuntu mini remix |
| 23:28.54 | nt4cats | and ubuntu lite ... let me look at those |
| 23:29.54 | nt4cats | I'm going to try the ubuntu mini remix. It is 155M (I will only be adding a few K at most) |
| 23:31.32 | nt4cats | I am also looking at xubuntu, too -- thanks for the recommend |
| 23:32.31 | nt4cats | xubuntu is 680M |
| 23:32.32 | nt4cats | :/ |
| 23:35.35 | tmzt | yeeh, they used to be light as well as fast |
| 23:35.41 | tmzt | but xfce4 is almost as big as gnome now |
| 23:41.45 | nt4cats | ~seen rwhitby |
| 23:41.47 | infobot | rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals (1d 21h 56m 17s) #oe (1d 21h 56m 17s) #meego (1d 21h 56m 17s) #nslu2-linux (1d 21h 56m 17s). Has said a total of 140 messages. Is idling for 16h 22m 3s, last said: 'blob+P ?'. |
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| 23:44.34 | nt4cats | I'm hoping rwhitby and/or his friends can offer me a place to host this .iso -- if I let people download it from my s3 bucket it'll cost me about 9 cents every time someone downloads it |
| 23:50.46 | rwhitby | nt4cats: we can do that |
| 23:50.58 | nt4cats | rwhitby :) |
| 23:51.01 | nt4cats | mornin' |
| 23:53.05 | nt4cats | rwhitby: I want to try and respin this (now that it is working for the base case) to trim its size. I started with the ubuntu 10.4 i386 desktop live cd, so right now it is 680M. |
| 23:53.42 | nt4cats | In terms of adding 'features', we can do many things without re-burning the iso |
| 23:54.08 | nt4cats | (it can download scripts off of the interwebs and execute them -- so we can change/improve behaviors just by uploading new scripts) |
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| 23:56.51 | nt4cats | will be back in 10 minutes (gotta help the boy wrap up bath-time) |