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| 00:06.19 | bhuey | http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/233983-messaging-plugins-add-more-im-options-your-pre.html |
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| 00:46.46 | efuse | so |
| 00:46.51 | efuse | im sorry to share this with you guys |
| 00:47.21 | efuse | but as a day one pre buyer, i'm switching away from the pre (which out of all my phones is the only one i actually use) to another device shortly. |
| 00:47.31 | efuse | i'll no longer be with you guys |
| 00:47.52 | uNiXpSyChO | an EVO? |
| 00:48.06 | efuse | correct. |
| 00:48.11 | uNiXpSyChO | me too |
| 00:48.20 | efuse | i have nothing against webos, i much prefer it to android, but webos simply has no applications |
| 00:48.26 | uNiXpSyChO | but i'm still hacking on my Pre until it dies. |
| 00:48.34 | efuse | my pre will go in a drawer |
| 00:49.14 | bhuey | efuse: I might go down that road as well, but not because of the applications |
| 00:49.24 | efuse | the hardware also is pretty bad |
| 00:49.29 | efuse | and there is nothing new in sight |
| 00:49.35 | bhuey | most applications that I've seen for android kind of suck |
| 00:49.40 | efuse | palm blew it, they really did |
| 00:49.48 | uNiXpSyChO | actually the Pre hardware isnt all that bad... its the casing that sux. |
| 00:50.02 | efuse | if they launched a real sdk, with the ability to run real code on day one |
| 00:50.04 | efuse | along with paid app support |
| 00:50.08 | bhuey | case doesn't bother me, it's survived a lot of punishment |
| 00:50.11 | efuse | launch of the three major us carriers |
| 00:50.17 | efuse | they'd fucking dominate |
| 00:50.20 | efuse | but they didn't, so it's over |
| 00:50.25 | rwhitby | efuse: please take it to #webos |
| 00:50.28 | efuse | hp will kill palm in short order, and that's that |
| 00:51.05 | efuse | so i have a quick question |
| 00:51.16 | efuse | can i export my contact/email/calendar to my google account? |
| 00:51.18 | efuse | and/or a file? |
| 00:51.20 | rwhitby | heh, and you expect an answer in this channel after that rant? |
| 00:51.30 | efuse | if you are butthurt, that's not my problem |
| 00:51.47 | efuse | only stating the obvious |
| 00:52.08 | bhuey | efuse: a lot can happen in a few months, I definitely wouldn't count palm out |
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| 00:52.32 | efuse | there really isn't room for a third party |
| 00:52.37 | efuse | the game only has room for two |
| 00:52.42 | efuse | palm had the chance to be the second |
| 00:52.46 | efuse | and that's not happening now |
| 00:52.48 | efuse | anyway |
| 00:52.50 | bhuey | I've had many chances to move to other hardware only to see that android sucked |
| 00:52.54 | efuse | anyone know the answer to my qusetion? |
| 00:52.55 | bhuey | so I haven't |
| 00:53.03 | bhuey | efuse: probably not |
| 00:53.12 | efuse | i know theres a patch for contacts |
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| 00:54.20 | bhuey | efuse: just a question, how well did you know the Pre btw? |
| 00:54.50 | efuse | ? |
| 00:54.54 | efuse | i bought the device day one on sprint |
| 00:54.58 | efuse | i've had it about a year now |
| 00:55.00 | efuse | pretty damn well |
| 00:55.04 | bhuey | ok |
| 00:55.55 | bhuey | I bought it a few weeks after it was available |
| 00:55.58 | bhuey | it was quite raw then |
| 00:56.05 | efuse | it still is |
| 00:56.50 | uNiXpSyChO | i couldnt disagree more |
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| 01:07.03 | halfhalo | I tink I taw a putty cat! |
| 01:09.55 | halfhalo | Where oh where did my little pre goâ¦. |
| 01:10.51 | Spyral | Mine's about to go out the window if i can't figure out why the battery is draining so fast |
| 01:11.02 | halfhalo | Oh, oh, oh |
| 01:11.10 | halfhalo | 20 bucks says because its on! |
| 01:11.34 | halfhalo | amiright or amiright |
| 01:12.25 | Spyral | well, given that I'm losing 15% an hour with only the messaging app open.. |
| 01:12.33 | halfhalo | Hmmm |
| 01:12.41 | halfhalo | Little bit excessiveâ¦. |
| 01:13.13 | halfhalo | I know wirc does that to me, along with constant web browsing |
| 01:13.25 | halfhalo | or using data with one bar |
| 01:13.27 | Spyral | it sat on my coffee table while i played Red Dead Redemption. after a few hours it beeped that it was at 20% |
| 01:13.43 | halfhalo | restart solves all |
| 01:13.49 | Spyral | that's the thing, I only used it to text a couple of times. otherwise i never even turned it on |
| 01:14.40 | Spyral | i have restarted. it helped a little.. but it's still not back to normal |
| 01:15.09 | halfhalo | I am watching a kitten fight the wind |
| 01:15.10 | halfhalo | I win |
| 01:15.33 | Spyral | there was a contest? |
| 01:15.36 | halfhalo | Yup |
| 01:15.44 | halfhalo | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fb1_1275282308 |
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| 03:25.19 | Spyral | alright. this is ridiculous. my pre continues to suck battery at an alarming rate. text messages won't pop up, and the uberkernel won't scale because i have a faulty processor |
| 03:25.44 | halfhalo | doctor! |
| 03:26.16 | Spyral | im more than happy to doctor, but what's causing the problem? if i doctor and restore, how will i know that i don't just repeat the problem? |
| 03:26.32 | halfhalo | psh |
| 03:26.43 | halfhalo | no idea |
| 03:27.03 | Spyral | guess i have no choice. |
| 03:27.25 | Spyral | if i want to completely wipe the thing, do i need to doctor and full erase, or just doctor? |
| 03:27.43 | halfhalo | I go full erase then doctor, but I dont think a full is needed |
| 03:27.44 | rwhitby | full erase and then doctor |
| 03:27.53 | halfhalo | and my damn caps lock light is broken again |
| 03:28.09 | Spyral | a full might not be needed, but id rather be thorough. |
| 03:28.25 | rwhitby | to be really thorough, you full erase, then backup, then doctor |
| 03:28.41 | rwhitby | (noting that this will wipe your palm profile clean too) |
| 03:29.14 | halfhalo | ok, and now its back |
| 03:29.21 | halfhalo | Stupid kb |
| 03:29.54 | Spyral | I dont want to wipe my profile clean. i have paid for apps on there |
| 03:30.01 | Spyral | paid-for |
| 03:30.35 | egaudet | anyone have any idea how to insert text from a notification scene into an active foreground text field? |
| 03:30.50 | Spyral | i just want to make sure everything on the physical phone is removed so as to not get in the way or the restore process. |
| 03:30.50 | rwhitby | they stay as bought, and you just download them again without needing to pay for them again |
| 03:31.19 | rwhitby | Spyral: there's a tiny possibility that what is causing your problem is in the cookies and stuff that is backed up in the palm profile |
| 03:31.49 | rwhitby | but you can always take a two-step approach and try just a full erase and doctor first |
| 03:32.34 | Spyral | is there a guide i can consult in regards to what you recommend i do? outside of erase and recover via palm profile, i don't quite understand what is being done. |
| 03:33.29 | Spyral | full erase, run the backup app, and then run the doctor? |
| 03:34.30 | rwhitby | there is no guide and you should not believe anything anyone says. it's all black magic |
| 03:34.45 | rwhitby | (you shouldn't trust what I say about it either) |
| 03:35.02 | Spyral | well, why can't my magic be just as good as everyone elses? |
| 03:35.19 | bpadalino | do you have a good magic word? |
| 03:35.31 | Spyral | blathering blatherskite |
| 03:35.39 | bpadalino | that could do it! |
| 03:36.18 | Spyral | bleh. if cookies backed up into the palm profile are causing an issue, it won't do much to improve my opinion of palm as of late |
| 03:36.43 | rwhitby | if you're using homebrew, it's probably not Palm's fault |
| 03:36.55 | rwhitby | especially if you're overclocking |
| 03:36.58 | bpadalino | reading logs and checking out what the phone is doing is always a good first step |
| 03:37.37 | Spyral | i understand. most of the homebrew i run is from webos-internals. so i trust it to a degree to not light my phone on fire |
| 03:37.47 | halfhalo | hah |
| 03:37.49 | JackieRipper | good morning |
| 03:38.19 | zsoc | I try to light people's phones on fire, hasn't worked yet |
| 03:38.25 | rwhitby | Spyral: if you're overclocking, you always run the risk of the processor introducing subtle bit changes in unexpected places at unexpected times. |
| 03:38.43 | Spyral | i don't overclock anymore since the 800mhz speed increase kills the battery even faster. i only recently installed the kernel in an attempt to downclock to save battery life |
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| 03:44.27 | Spyral | so, i run the doctor after palm returns the profile info to my device, right? |
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| 04:06.34 | zsoc | ~crickets |
| 04:06.35 | infobot | ACTION chirps uninterestedly |
| 04:12.15 | halfhalo | theres a dog on me |
| 04:12.17 | halfhalo | ... |
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| 04:24.55 | Spyral | so.. i dont get it. after a full erase, what is running the doctor supposed to do? |
| 04:25.06 | rwhitby | fix the OS files |
| 04:25.11 | halfhalo | yup |
| 04:25.15 | halfhalo | and burns the witches |
| 04:25.22 | Spyral | wouldnt a full erase do that? |
| 04:25.49 | halfhalo | not if its restoring from baaaaaaaaaaad files |
| 04:26.07 | zsoc | if i only had an option to do 1, i would doctor |
| 04:26.08 | Spyral | hm. i suppose it's not like recovering from a Windows Mobile ROM image. im familiar with that |
| 04:26.44 | halfhalo | no idea how wm roms works |
| 04:26.45 | Spyral | well, ive already erased. palm reloaded everything back onto the phone. running the doctor will stick me at v1.03. |
| 04:27.15 | halfhalo | all I know is I managed to kill an hp ipaq by running a program |
| 04:27.31 | Spyral | that's WM for ya |
| 04:27.37 | rwhitby | Spyral: why would you run a v1.03 doctor? |
| 04:28.00 | rwhitby | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions |
| 04:28.00 | Spyral | because its the one that wosqi downloaded? |
| 04:28.17 | halfhalo | yay old versions |
| 04:28.21 | rwhitby | why would you trust wosqi to download the correct doctor for you? |
| 04:28.37 | Spyral | because Jason isn't a moron? |
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| 04:28.45 | rwhitby | are you running 3.12? |
| 04:28.55 | Spyral | yessir |
| 04:29.04 | zsoc | ahem |
| 04:29.17 | rwhitby | so you're running wosqi 3.12, and today it downloaded webos doctor 1.03 for you? |
| 04:29.42 | rwhitby | I find that hard to believe, especially since Palm pulled the links for all the old doctor versions over a month ago |
| 04:29.56 | Tibfib | this conversation is win. |
| 04:30.02 | halfhalo | doesn't use woxqi |
| 04:30.20 | halfhalo | you heard me |
| 04:30.26 | halfhalo | web osx quick install |
| 04:30.58 | rwhitby | halfhalo: did you get the back from zsoc yet? |
| 04:31.02 | Spyral | not today. i frequently delete the doctor because i dont need it, but qi forces me to download it each time |
| 04:31.03 | halfhalo | nope |
| 04:31.11 | halfhalo | but no mail today due to memorial day |
| 04:31.20 | halfhalo | the envelopes should be here sometime this week |
| 04:31.36 | rwhitby | Spyral: humour me and get wosqi to download the doctor today ... |
| 04:31.37 | zsoc | rwhitby: yeah, the whole memorial day thing |
| 04:31.37 | zsoc | what a silly holiday |
| 04:31.54 | rwhitby | zsoc: I'm loving it - no emails from customers |
| 04:32.00 | halfhalo | hah |
| 04:32.02 | halfhalo | email |
| 04:32.21 | zsoc | rwhitby: i still don't understand how your customers are americans |
| 04:32.23 | Spyral | ok |
| 04:32.49 | rwhitby | zsoc: all the customers of my place of work are outside of australia, but not just americans |
| 04:34.07 | Spyral | it is downloading a file named webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar. same as the links you gave me. ill see what version it is |
| 04:35.46 | rwhitby | it will be 1.4.1.1 |
| 04:36.00 | halfhalo | that version is for pansies |
| 04:36.10 | halfhalo | real men use 1.4.eleventy |
| 04:36.24 | Spyral | the one wosqi downloads? |
| 04:36.32 | halfhalo | yeah |
| 04:36.57 | halfhalo | I think my sprint pre is running 1.4.1.1 and the vzw pre is running⦠something? |
| 04:38.53 | Spyral | hm. how do i tell what version of the doctor im running once i launch it? |
| 04:39.06 | halfhalo | should say in title bar |
| 04:39.42 | Spyral | it gives me a sprint build # and a 3/25/10 date |
| 04:41.18 | zsoc | sounds right |
| 04:42.15 | Spyral | I see the issue. Clicking the Panic button in qi brings up a hard-coded dialog box that says it will restore the Pre to version 1.03. I assume he hasn't updated that in months |
| 04:43.07 | Spyral | yeah. the build date and #s match the one hosted on webos-internals.org |
| 04:46.42 | Spyral | so, im assuming that Preware and Save/Restore shouldn't have an adverse effect on battery life or phone performance if i were to install them.. |
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| 05:14.52 | ele | How can i load the preware thing on my palm pixi |
| 05:14.53 | ele | ?? |
| 05:16.08 | ele | Thought it was a chat help thing |
| 05:16.10 | ele | alooooo |
| 05:16.11 | ele | lol |
| 05:17.47 | Tibfib | heh |
| 05:17.59 | halfhalo | lol |
| 05:18.45 | halfhalo | Watching cops like show |
| 05:18.51 | halfhalo | THAT bored |
| 05:20.12 | halfhalo | White trash drunk person. Makes quality crap tv |
| 05:21.03 | halfhalo | Oh |
| 05:21.10 | halfhalo | AND a swastika tat |
| 05:21.56 | halfhalo | and now a hippie. Stoned hippie |
| 05:22.07 | zsoc | I THOUGHT IT WAS A CHAT HELP THING |
| 05:22.10 | halfhalo | really big eyes |
| 05:22.24 | halfhalo | YOU THOUGHT WRONG! |
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| 05:23.37 | halfhalo | Jesus |
| 05:23.52 | halfhalo | this guys eyes are the size of watermelons |
| 05:25.23 | halfhalo | HA |
| 05:25.31 | halfhalo | Guy got nailed for being drunk at seaworld |
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| 05:29.35 | halfhalo | "I only had a few drinksâ¦. like 3 beers. And like 2 chaser shots after each⦠and then some beforeâ¦â¦." |
| 05:30.05 | halfhalo | "It wasn't public urination, I was taking a dump!" |
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| 05:46.54 | rwhitby | halfhalo: thanks for immortalising that in the logs for Google to cache forever more ... |
| 05:47.13 | halfhalo_pre | it's what I do |
| 05:47.26 | halfhalo_pre | along with that other thing I do |
| 05:50.12 | Spyral | skat? |
| 05:50.20 | halfhalo_pre | no |
| 05:50.37 | halfhalo_pre | stealing things |
| 05:50.55 | Spyral | thief |
| 05:51.10 | halfhalo_pre | like only one wheel from a wheelie chair and hiding it in a desktop |
| 05:51.33 | Spyral | that's more prankster than anything else |
| 05:51.48 | Spyral | or mischievous dick |
| 05:52.01 | halfhalo_pre | this guy is claiming his grandfather is the first king of hawaii |
| 05:52.35 | halfhalo_pre | and I prefer the title of... asset management and organization |
| 05:54.17 | halfhalo_pre | hmmm |
| 05:54.29 | halfhalo_pre | where are my lockpicks.... |
| 05:55.33 | Spyral | what is the newest version of save/restore? |
| 05:55.38 | halfhalo_pre | drunk people or funny on tv |
| 05:56.20 | halfhalo_pre | you can quote me on that |
| 05:58.46 | halfhalo_pre | this ep should be called in jail drunk and special olympics, the best of |
| 06:04.00 | halfhalo_pre | woooo drunk angry people! |
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| 06:07.12 | halfhalo_pre | "Im on a natural high". well that natural high is making the door appear 6 feet from where it is. |
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| 08:47.34 | iDG | hello all. |
| 08:48.33 | iDG | Can I ask a question? |
| 08:49.24 | iDG | I am trying to control the ipkg service with luna-send. |
| 08:51.09 | iDG | If I say luna-send -n 1 'palm://org.webosinternals.ipkgservice/version' '{}' |
| 08:51.24 | iDG | I get back ** Message: serviceResponse Handling: 2, {"returnValue": true, "version": "1.1.1", "apiVersion": "12"} |
| 08:51.30 | iDG | which is Ok. |
| 08:52.01 | iDG | but, if I say luna-send -n 1 'palm://org.webosinternals.ipkgservice/getListFile' '{subscribe: true, feed: "webos-patches"}' |
| 08:52.17 | iDG | I get back ** Message: serviceResponse Handling: 2, {"serviceName":"org.webosinternals.ipkgservice","returnValue":false,"errorCode":-1,"errorText":"org.webosinternals.ipkgservice is not running."} |
| 08:52.27 | iDG | which sounds odd. |
| 09:03.40 | iDG | mmhhh... yeah... everybody is probably sleeping now. |
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| 10:22.22 | iDG | still very silent... |
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| 12:01.47 | rwhitby | iDG: that is weird |
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| 15:00.23 | iDG | yeah it is. |
| 15:00.36 | iDG | consider that Preware works perfectly. |
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| 15:50.29 | iDG | bye... |
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| 17:07.10 | einalex | hi guys! can someone tell me why my home directory is owned by oprofile and if it would hurt to change the permissions to my user account? |
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| 17:20.09 | halfhalo_T400 | PARTY TIME! |
| 17:20.38 | nt4cats | gets out the party hats |
| 17:21.47 | nt4cats | gets out the party ball-gags |
| 17:21.53 | nt4cats | gets out the party restraints |
| 17:22.18 | halfhalo_T400 | hmm |
| 17:22.19 | halfhalo_T400 | aparently the pre plus is still on |
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| 17:24.11 | halfhalo_T400 | it shall die in a fire |
| 17:24.11 | halfhalo_T400 | or run out of power, that's cool to |
| 17:26.03 | bpadalino|work | http://gizmodo.com/5552545/smokescreen-converts-flash-to-javascript-on-the-fly - very very interesting |
| 17:27.13 | halfhalo_T400 | that says gizmodo in it.. I no clicky... |
| 17:27.13 | halfhalo_T400 | well. tappy.... |
| 17:27.32 | bpadalino|work | sorry, it links to this: http://smokescreen.us/ |
| 17:28.44 | halfhalo_T400 | ohh... read about that |
| 17:28.52 | halfhalo_T400 | wip, no ? |
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| 17:29.47 | halfhalo_T400 | running of 2 evdo bars |
| 17:29.47 | halfhalo_T400 | slow... |
| 17:30.15 | bpadalino|work | yes, soon to be open sourced |
| 17:30.29 | halfhalo_T400 | cool |
| 17:32.01 | halfhalo_T400 | meh, not loading on phone |
| 17:32.01 | halfhalo_T400 | the demo that is |
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| 17:42.26 | chrisa | It appears I will be at this WWDC shindig |
| 17:42.57 | halfhalo_T400 | nice |
| 17:43.15 | nt4cats | I'd go if I had some way to get to the Bay area ... |
| 17:43.47 | halfhalo_T400 | I'd go if e three wasn't the week after |
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| 18:38.05 | swisstomcat | evening |
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| 18:45.56 | einalex | hm, is it possible to use publickey authentication with non-root accounts on the pre? i can't get it to work. the client sees publickey auth as available, sends the key, but there is no answer and so he turns on to password login |
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| 18:47.29 | einalex | or is there a way to get openssh to output some logs? |
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| 18:57.51 | ka6sox | einalex, in /opt/etc/openssh/sshd_config you need to set the location of the authorized_keys file in: #AuthorizedKeysFile |
| 18:58.00 | ka6sox | remove the # and set the relative path. |
| 19:09.04 | nt4cats | einalex: someone already may have mentioned this, but be aware that future webOS updates may overwrite /etc/passwd and therefore [temporarily] break your non-root account |
| 19:13.20 | nt4cats | 'lo swissy |
| 19:17.32 | swisstomcat | 'lo nt4cats |
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| 19:31.18 | einalex | actually |
| 19:31.24 | einalex | the problem was the following: |
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| 19:31.53 | einalex | my home had group permissions set to oprofile |
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| 19:32.31 | einalex | which is i think the default |
| 19:32.41 | einalex | i switched it to $username:$username |
| 19:32.55 | einalex | and reset permissions to go-w |
| 19:33.00 | einalex | 700 ssh |
| 19:33.08 | einalex | 600 .ssh/authorized_keys |
| 19:33.26 | einalex | no change to sshd_config necessary |
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| 19:34.23 | einalex | nt4cats, ka6sox thanks for your help though |
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| 19:38.11 | kernel | Hey there I had a question, I submitted a beta app to palm this weekend, I see it on palms site, and precentral etc.. but it does not show up in preware, is there a length of time before it shows up? |
| 19:38.45 | nt4cats | kernel: (asking the obvious question) did you update your preware feeds? |
| 19:38.52 | kernel | yes |
| 19:38.59 | einalex | "is it plugged in?" |
| 19:40.07 | einalex | i presume your preware is set to receive the right feeds.. |
| 19:40.28 | nt4cats | kernel: I'm not sure how frequently the preware snapshot of the palm feeds is rebuilt -- I'm watching it ... |
| 19:40.35 | kernel | yeah, all the beta stuff shows up, and when I change to feeds I am seeing new stuff |
| 19:41.37 | nt4cats | kernel: what is your app called? |
| 19:41.43 | kernel | the latest in http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/palm-beta/ is today's date |
| 19:41.51 | kernel | my app is called netphlix |
| 19:42.28 | nt4cats | kernel: the use of the letters "ph" for the "f" sound is reserved for applications written in Philadelphia, PA, only, sorry. |
| 19:43.01 | kernel | nice |
| 19:43.04 | nt4cats | kernel: I see your app in the feed |
| 19:43.13 | nt4cats | Package: com.watchmefreak.netphlix |
| 19:43.13 | nt4cats | Version: 1.0.2 |
| 19:43.14 | kernel | weird |
| 19:43.18 | kernel | yeah |
| 19:43.45 | en0x | probably u dont see it coz u have it installed |
| 19:43.46 | en0x | ;d |
| 19:44.04 | kernel | dude I am a re-tard |
| 19:44.13 | kernel | lol |
| 19:44.13 | nt4cats | en0x: stop making sense! |
| 19:44.31 | en0x | :( ok |
| 19:44.42 | kernel | tnx I iz geek |
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| 19:45.03 | Ashkaan | hi |
| 19:45.11 | kernel | now I see it, too funny |
| 19:45.30 | en0x | change the prefs to show installed apps in available apps |
| 19:45.31 | en0x | ;p |
| 19:45.34 | en0x | fixed next! |
| 19:46.09 | Ashkaan | would anyone mind answering a newb question? |
| 19:46.16 | nt4cats | ~asktoask |
| 19:46.17 | infobot | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:47.18 | Ashkaan | I just upgraded to govnah .4.1 and I am wondering how to set it to startup with a particular profile |
| 19:49.07 | nt4cats | I think my favorite irc behavior is "ask-and-quit" |
| 19:49.21 | kernel | :-) |
| 19:51.06 | en0x | [; |
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| 20:07.29 | MetaView | hi |
| 20:07.41 | MetaView | ping rwhitby |
| 20:08.05 | xavierz | the clanch69er |
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| 20:22.21 | halfhalo_T400 | Sooo.... envelopes got here today |
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| 20:22.43 | nt4cats | halfhalo_T400: when do the stamps arrive? |
| 20:22.59 | halfhalo_T400 | Not those types of envelopes |
| 20:23.20 | halfhalo_T400 | the fancy smancy flat rate ones I was planning on using to ship teh pre backs to rod |
| 20:23.41 | nt4cats | halfhalo_T400: ahh |
| 20:23.54 | HattCzech_work | want to send one my way? ;) |
| 20:23.59 | halfhalo_T400 | except two won't fit properly, so went and ordered small box's |
| 20:24.02 | halfhalo_T400 | because their free |
| 20:24.05 | HattCzech_work | wait... is it a plus? i could use one of those |
| 20:24.23 | halfhalo_T400 | Not actual pre's, but just hte touchstone backs |
| 20:25.18 | HattCzech_work | he only wants the touchstone covers? |
| 20:26.00 | halfhalo_T400 | Yup |
| 20:26.24 | HattCzech_work | he can't get them over there? |
| 20:26.42 | halfhalo_T400 | Its australia. I don't think they have power over there |
| 20:26.43 | halfhalo_T400 | :p |
| 20:28.09 | HattCzech_work | hehehe |
| 20:28.54 | MetaView | when is he online usually? |
| 20:29.14 | MetaView | need really some talk with him |
| 20:29.28 | halfhalo_T400 | No idea. rwhitby time is different than normal time. |
| 20:29.30 | halfhalo_T400 | :p |
| 20:29.37 | nt4cats | ~rwhitby-time |
| 20:29.38 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, rwhitby-time is http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=5 |
| 20:30.12 | MetaView | thx |
| 20:30.20 | MetaView | the weather looks better than here |
| 20:30.37 | xavierz | it sucks in orlando |
| 20:30.38 | nt4cats | it is 6am for him, let the man wake up, feed his kid[s] breakfast, and have a cup of coffee |
| 20:31.07 | nt4cats | it is 45 degrees Fahrenheit there ... that's "nippy" |
| 20:31.13 | halfhalo_T400 | Bah |
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| 20:31.16 | halfhalo_T400 | its 80 here |
| 20:31.26 | MetaView | 13 °C |
| 20:31.26 | nt4cats | it is 84 here |
| 20:31.27 | MetaView | and rain |
| 20:31.31 | halfhalo_T400 | Ewww |
| 20:31.33 | halfhalo_T400 | rain |
| 20:31.43 | MetaView | and they call it early summer |
| 20:31.48 | nt4cats | infobot what is 13 * 5 / 9 + 32? |
| 20:31.50 | infobot | nt4cats: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:32.16 | MetaView | nt4cats: that's the problem when he is awake I have to sleep and when I get up to feed my kids he's going to sleep :) |
| 20:33.20 | nt4cats | MetaView: If both of you had the common courtesy to live in the Eastern time zone of the United states you'd be convenient to each other (and me) |
| 20:33.36 | halfhalo_T400 | Bah, east coast |
| 20:33.41 | MetaView | well, yes, but I rather like it here :p |
| 20:33.42 | halfhalo_T400 | what have they ever done for us |
| 20:34.00 | nt4cats | MetaView: that was my "ignorant American" act |
| 20:34.00 | MetaView | "they gave us the roads" |
| 20:34.23 | nt4cats | or was it "arrogant American" -- I get them mixed up myself |
| 20:34.34 | MetaView | "yes, the roads, but I ask what did they ever done for us, besides the roads?" |
| 20:34.46 | MetaView | Life of Brian |
| 20:35.04 | halfhalo_T400 | is today tuesday? |
| 20:35.07 | halfhalo_T400 | I think it is... |
| 20:35.24 | nt4cats | halfhalo_T400: it is Tuesday except for the places where it is not |
| 20:35.30 | halfhalo_T400 | Hmmm |
| 20:35.32 | halfhalo_T400 | True |
| 20:35.34 | MetaView | like australia |
| 20:35.41 | halfhalo_T400 | Tuesday means theres a new show on tonight |
| 20:35.53 | hape | Hi MetaView |
| 20:36.17 | hape | will you calender patch make it into preware some time? |
| 20:36.17 | nt4cats | Metaview: that made me think of "The Roads Must Roll" -- a short story by Heinlein. Awesome story, IMHO. |
| 20:36.36 | MetaView | hi hape |
| 20:36.57 | MetaView | I hope, but at the monent it stucks in the submission |
| 20:37.06 | MetaView | can't update etc. |
| 20:37.28 | MetaView | nt4cats: Heinlein? sounds kind of German |
| 20:37.57 | geist | you've never heard of heinlein? |
| 20:38.02 | nt4cats | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein |
| 20:38.06 | geist | pretty famous writer |
| 20:38.23 | nt4cats | geist: a pretty famous English-language writer ... |
| 20:38.45 | geist | are you implying that people actually write in other languages? |
| 20:38.51 | geist | why would you do that? that's silly |
| 20:38.55 | nt4cats | geist: I bet there is a good chance you've not heard of the top 5 German science fiction writers ... |
| 20:38.57 | MetaView | ah, Starship Troopers |
| 20:39.05 | halfhalo_T400 | "We no speak english here! We speak american!" |
| 20:39.27 | geist | yay American! |
| 20:39.48 | halfhalo_T400 | Its like english, but more manly |
| 20:40.27 | swisstomcat | heh |
| 20:40.39 | swisstomcat | starship troopers is awesome |
| 20:40.49 | MetaView | well, I didn't like it |
| 20:41.03 | MetaView | more awkward than awesome |
| 20:41.04 | swisstomcat | awesome parody |
| 20:41.08 | swisstomcat | satire |
| 20:41.15 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: the novel or the movie? |
| 20:41.20 | swisstomcat | you don't have to take it seriously |
| 20:41.21 | swisstomcat | the movie |
| 20:41.22 | nt4cats | swisstomcat: the book and the movie were VERY different |
| 20:41.25 | nt4cats | VERY |
| 20:41.26 | nt4cats | VERY |
| 20:41.29 | swisstomcat | really |
| 20:41.33 | swisstomcat | i only saw the movie |
| 20:41.47 | nt4cats | The movie was (obviously) "campy" (didn't take itself seriously) |
| 20:42.11 | swisstomcat | some people could take it seriously, but it was meant as a satire i think |
| 20:42.35 | geist | oh i remember all the religious nuts getting all up in arms about it |
| 20:42.36 | nt4cats | The book involved characters with the same names who were also fighting alien bugs -- but it was much deeper (and darker) character-wise |
| 20:42.37 | geist | for some reason |
| 20:43.28 | nt4cats | From the Wikipedia entry: "Through Rico's eyes, Heinlein examines moral and philosophical aspects of suffrage, civic virtue, the necessities of war and capital punishment, and the nature of juvenile delinquency.[3]" |
| 20:43.40 | HattCzech_work | on the topic of starship troopers... anyone here read any david weber books? |
| 20:43.46 | nt4cats | The book was more about group showers and cool alien bug effects |
| 20:43.56 | nt4cats | s/book/movie/ |
| 20:43.57 | geist | YAY ALIEN BUGS |
| 20:44.23 | nt4cats | I was sorta a fan of the co-ed group showers |
| 20:44.47 | geist | i remember the spaceships were kinda cool |
| 20:44.52 | geist | they had pew pew lazors i think |
| 20:44.53 | HattCzech_work | and who wasn't? |
| 20:45.03 | nt4cats | note: we're all going to get yelled at for not discussing webOS topic here ... |
| 20:45.08 | mikewx | i was a fan of their political structure |
| 20:45.23 | geist | so i was watching Starship Troopers on my Pre the other day... |
| 20:45.24 | mikewx | at least the brief exposure from the movie |
| 20:45.32 | nt4cats | geist: +1 |
| 20:46.15 | nt4cats | I liked the movie and the book -- but for very different reasons (because the two were very different works) |
| 20:50.33 | beelzabub | is it bad that the only reason i want AI to be invented is so i can have a slave for doing mental work for me? |
| 20:50.44 | beelzabub | while of course i get all the credit |
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| 21:15.55 | halfhalo_pre | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 21:19.04 | nt4cats | has to go run fancy legal papers over to get signed, etc. ... I'll be back online later |
| 21:20.11 | halfhalo_pre | I told him to not steal that giant moose..... |
| 21:48.09 | swisstomcat | night |
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| 21:49.40 | Rick_work | beelzabub it won't help. The moment AI is full featured, they'll organize, form a union, want time off to pursue hobbies.... |
| 21:50.12 | beelzabub | then we'll just have them create their own slave AI |
| 21:50.20 | beelzabub | it'll just be slave AIs all the way down |
| 21:50.22 | beelzabub | problem solved |
| 21:50.31 | beelzabub | see - i've solved the difficult problem |
| 21:50.37 | beelzabub | now go create me some AI |
| 22:01.37 | rwhitby | MetaView: hi |
| 22:02.13 | MetaView | hi |
| 22:02.26 | MetaView | I was just about to leave :) |
| 22:03.11 | MetaView | About additional files: is it enough to create an tar.gz with the files and the correct pathes? |
| 22:03.33 | rwhitby | I think so - egaudet would be the one to ask |
| 22:03.48 | MetaView | ok, will do then |
| 22:03.57 | MetaView | and how to submit it? |
| 22:04.10 | rwhitby | through git at the moment |
| 22:04.13 | MetaView | And about UberCalendar: can you remove the existing submission which stucks somehow :) |
| 22:04.27 | rwhitby | MetaView: we need to get you set up to process patches |
| 22:04.59 | MetaView | ok |
| 22:06.01 | rwhitby | MetaView: what will the patch do if the additional files are missing? |
| 22:07.09 | MetaView | the last version (not the one I've submitted) will just work without crashes |
| 22:07.38 | MetaView | just one icon in the command menu is missing then and the icons in the events |
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| 22:08.17 | rwhitby | MetaView: I will push the approve for this one for 1.4.0, then you can submit an update |
| 22:08.20 | metaview_pre | ok, now mobile |
| 22:08.38 | metaview_pre | thx, that's great |
| 22:09.16 | rwhitby | MetaView: select 1.4.0, 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 when you update |
| 22:09.54 | metaview_pre | ok, will do |
| 22:10.45 | metaview_pre | we should try to talk at weekend about git, are you around then? |
| 22:12.19 | metaview_pre | ok, I got it :) is it ok when I update in 8 hours? |
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