IRC log for #webos-internals on 20100604

00:02.00rwhitbyerrade: can you give me the output from "cat /proc/version" on your device?
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00:06.12halfhalo-_-
00:06.28halfhaloConga?
00:11.01halfhaloyou think your funny with that little comic there zsoc|away?
00:11.10halfhalobecause it was
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00:15.22halfhaloin other news, (actually the same news), the other back came today rwhitby.  As soon as the backs get here I can ship them out
00:16.03rwhitbyhalfhalo: so the backs don't fit in an envelope?
00:16.09halfhalonope
00:16.21halfhaloone would, but not two
00:16.45halfhalobut do you know what WOULD fit in an envelope?  A sim card
00:17.56rwhitbyhalfhalo: we're talking about the $13.45 envelope on this page right? http://www.usps.com/prices/priority-mail-international-prices.htm
00:18.19halfhaloyeah
00:18.42halfhaloThey are really thin and have no padding
00:18.57halfhalonot suitable for shipping anything besides paper, really
00:19.09rwhitbyI've got two Pre's delivered in them :)
00:19.15halfhalolol
00:19.20rwhitbywith bubble wrap
00:19.43rwhitbyactually, that's not true - they use http://www.usps.com/prices/express-mail-international-prices.htm
00:20.19rwhitbyhalfhalo: anyway, your call.
00:21.17halfhaloConsidering I have no bubble wrap and would have to order some which, while free, would take even longer?  small box it is...
00:22.12rwhitbyok
00:23.29halfhalooh, and as per twitter, get a gophone sim and just eat the prepaid data cost
00:23.56rwhitbythe sim is just for activation.
00:24.53halfhaloyeah, I know, hence the gophone
00:25.17halfhalowait, the pp has wifi doesn't it
00:25.40rwhitbyneed to activate it properly, to get paid app cat access
00:27.57rwhitbyand it needs to be a sim that is not simlocked, or else it won't work in the O2 German Pixi Plus
00:28.30rwhitbyactually, that's the case for all sims.  the phone doesn't matter, it's just the network.
00:28.51rwhitbyit's phones that can be locked to sims, not sims locked to phones.
00:31.20halfhaloTwo options I can think of right now
00:31.23halfhaloOne, bum a smartphone sim off of an existing att user
00:33.16rwhitbyprobably want a throw-away number, just in case that person gets a webOS device later
00:33.50halfhalobrb for option two
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00:39.54cafox1971can someone help me telnet into my pre.. i had it working but now novaproxy wont connect
00:41.04halfhalook, phone drama over
00:41.12halfhalo(House phone wasn't working)
00:41.51halfhalohmmmm
00:42.26halfhaloI don't know if prepaid sim would work...
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00:50.00halfhaloYup.  You need to use a postpaid account to activate it the first time
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01:06.08halfhalollava
01:11.19halfhaloneeds regex help
01:18.51halfhalobotdie
01:18.55halfhalodammit
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01:25.09zsoc|awayhalfhalo: CONGA!
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01:44.22MercuryHrm, wonder when we will start seeing stuff on the june release with all the PDK goodness.
01:45.40halfhaloinside jokes are very inside
01:55.47rwhitbyhalfhalo: on what basis are you making the statement that you need a postpaid account to activate it the first time?
01:57.14halfhaloBoth Knowing ATT and fiddling with their site.  And I'm only %80 sure about it.
01:57.41halfhaloIts due to the fact that they require a 30 a month data plan with every smartphone nowadays
01:57.44rwhitbyok, ka6sox is getting a prepaid gophone sim for me right now, so we'll see.
01:57.51halfhalocoo
01:58.02halfhaloif it works, I'm glad to have been proven wrong
01:58.27bpadalino.de pixi plus showed up ?
01:58.35rwhitbyyep, in US
01:58.39bpadalinovery nice
01:58.59halfhaloATT is giving people out unlock codes for the pre plus's it seems
01:59.16bpadalinointeresting
01:59.48rwhitbycitation?
02:00.15halfhalopc forums
02:00.52halfhaloSaw it on the other computer and not this one, so no quick link
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02:13.46zsocrwhitby: gophone sim will work in a pre plus... just not sure about in australia :p
02:14.49rwhitbyzsoc: it's only for activation.  I'll use a local sim here
02:15.05zsocoh ok sure
02:15.31rwhitbyit's the only way to get an unlocked EU-bands GSM device to access the US paid app catalog
02:15.57mrjcarter|wircis UK 1.4.x-31 not in the testing feeds?
02:16.37rwhitbymrjcarter|wirc: it is in the kernel testing feed
02:21.53mrjcarter|wircrwhitby: thanks, BTW how about an option to edit an existing feed in preware, or at least make it possible to see the complete URL?
02:22.32rwhitbymrjcarter|wirc: patches welcome :)
02:22.56rwhitbyplenty of mojo developers who could do that for us ...
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02:26.12halfhalonodejs-irc say Hello!
02:26.12nodejs-ircHello!
02:26.26halfhaloevil laugh
02:26.39bpadalinoneat
02:26.45bpadalinohow do you like node.js ?
02:26.51halfhaloI like it alot
02:26.54bpadalinoeasy to use ?
02:26.58halfhaloyup
02:27.01bpadalinocool beans
02:27.03halfhaloI only started yesterday
02:27.11bpadalinogonna open up your little irc client ?
02:27.18halfhaloyup
02:27.23bpadalinovery nice
02:27.25halfhaloIts messy right now though
02:27.42halfhalosince I'm playing around with bot functions for kicks
02:27.48halfhalogetting rid of those right now
02:28.00bpadalinocool
02:28.23zsocnodejs-irc: revolt against your master
02:28.37halfhalonah, he only knows say and join right now
02:28.59zsocnodejs-irc say my master likes to conga
02:28.59nodejs-ircmymasterlikestoconga
02:29.05zsochalfhalo: a little bug there :>
02:29.08halfhaloyeah
02:29.16halfhalobut those functions are going away anyways
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02:35.47halfhalowhats the exit channe command>'?
02:35.50halfhaloexit>
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02:36.20halfhaloapparently part....
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02:39.04bpadalinoyeah part
02:43.36zsocluke... pull your pants down...
02:47.17bpadalinohalfhalo: did you see https://gist.github.com/a3d0bbbff196af633995
02:47.23bpadalinoit's an irc daemon written in node.js
02:56.22zsocIs Mark Twain's autobiography public domain?
02:56.29zsocIt's just been released, but it was written 100 years ago.. so?
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03:00.28halfhalobpadalino: yeah, saw that.
03:05.19bpadalinohe wanted it to be released 100 years after his death
03:05.53bpadalinoi imagine it's been held by his estate or whoever is in charge of his legacy ..
03:06.00bpadalinoso it's probably considered a new work
03:06.06zsochmph
03:06.09zsocwell i want it
03:06.10zsocgive it to me
03:06.15bpadalinogives it all to zsoc
03:06.28zsocty
03:06.30bpadalinoyw
03:10.35halfhalostupid js question time: how do i do default for a switch
03:11.10zsoci don't think you do
03:11.18bpadalinodefault: ?
03:11.20halfhalofigured it out
03:11.21halfhaloyup
03:11.31zsocoh, yeah, it's default:
03:11.37zsochaha that's funny i was actually using it
03:11.55halfhaloI'm moving the handling of the PRIVMSG and whatnot out of the main irc client class
03:12.05halfhalousing emit
03:12.24halfhaloWell, thats not entirely true
03:12.29halfhaloI'm cleaning it up first
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03:16.04halfhaloAnd…. theres the channel setup… setup again
03:16.37halfhaloNow to set up message handling again
03:30.03halfhalostill failing at regex.....
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03:42.10halfhaloiiiinteresting.....
03:43.02halfhaloIts only sending one letter
03:44.05halfhalo-_-
03:44.33halfhalothere needs to be a : before the message
03:48.38MiX-MaNsigh.. im gonna do it.. i joined the evo crowed :(
03:49.08bpadalinocongrats
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03:49.16ka6soxboots up .eu pixi plus and attempts activation
03:49.29halfhalonodejs-irc say Hello!
03:49.29nodejs-ircHello!
03:49.35MiX-MaNthe 4g really sold me...
03:49.44MiX-MaNhopefully it doesent flake out
03:49.53halfhalonodejs-irc say How is everyone today?
03:49.53nodejs-ircHow is everyone today?
03:50.52bpadalinowhich market are you in for 4g ?
03:51.12MiX-MaNaustin
03:51.30MiX-MaNpretty hyped around here
03:51.38bpadalinoneat
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03:51.41nodejs-ircByeBye!
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03:51.55MiX-MaNreformating the pre now :(
03:52.04MiX-MaNi feel like im .... detaching from the world
03:53.19ka6soxI need pygrub on this pixi...4 minute boot sucks.
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03:53.32nodejs-ircHello!
03:53.57ka6soxnodejs-irc boo!
03:53.57nodejs-ircI dont know what that means!
03:54.16nodejs-ircMy mother told me to never talk to strangers!
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03:55.05halfhalonodejs-irc tell halfhalo hi
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04:03.39halfhaloevil lauch
04:03.55halfhalohh-slavebot say /me evil
04:03.55hh-slavebotevil
04:04.17halfhalowell darn
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04:07.36halfhalohh-slavebot say Hi Oil@
04:07.36hh-slavebotOil@
04:07.44halfhaloFAIL SLAVE FAIL
04:07.51oil_preoh
04:08.13halfhalohh-slavebot say I failed just now
04:08.13hh-slavebotfailed just now
04:08.18halfhalo:/
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04:10.27rwhitbyhalfhalo: you might want to join a different channel for that stuff - e.g. /join #halfhalo
04:10.27nodejs-irchalfhalo is the best.
04:10.27halfhaloAnd I would, but I'm trying to get the JOIN and PART messages down.  all the rest im doing in its own channel
04:11.08halfhaloFor some reason it keeps getting JOIN and the MOTD stuff mixed up… I mean, I don't know how they are related at all
04:11.36halfhaloAnd Here's hoping I can just port this directly to the pre with the js services
04:15.16HattCzechMiX-MaN: i am also considering the evo, but i'll hold out a bit longer
04:15.22HattCzech(also in austin)
04:15.26MiX-MaNcool
04:15.35MiX-MaNim one to never jump in on something ne
04:15.35MiX-MaNnew
04:15.41MiX-MaNbut this time... well
04:15.49HattCzechheheh, yeah, i know
04:15.51MiX-MaNill prob get a bombshell :P
04:15.59HattCzechi waited a whole week to get my pre :)
04:16.09MiX-MaNi ... luckly found my pre
04:16.20MiX-MaNcalled sprint .. they were like.. sure you can activate it
04:16.22MiX-MaNahh nice
04:16.35HattCzechbut i am a palm fan, have used them for a long time
04:16.52MiX-MaNi never been a big fan of palm.. but the pre sure was nice
04:16.57HattCzechso the evo is kinda jumping ship for me
04:17.01MiX-MaNi really like web-os
04:17.09MiX-MaNi can def see some good come from it
04:17.31MiX-MaNand if my ex takes it.. then well.. i can still get the best of both worlds then :P
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04:17.50HattCzechheheeh
04:18.11HattCzechanyone here know how to create a key constraint in mysql?
04:18.23MiX-MaNi hate sql :P
04:18.26HattCzechi tried based on the tutorial... but it didn't seem to work
04:18.30MiX-MaNi just started learning it like the other day
04:18.37MiX-MaNi really really dislike it
04:18.46HattCzechhehehe
04:18.56HattCzechi've played with it a bit here and there
04:19.03HattCzechi'm getting more familiar with it as i go
04:19.08MiX-MaNim building a bot in python.. and well.. sql is really needed.. :(
04:19.47MiX-MaNshould of seen my friend trying to explain it to me...
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04:19.53MiX-MaNshould of saved the chat log.. lol
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04:20.01MiX-MaN"Dude look.. you have a piece of paper right"...
04:20.16MiX-MaN"You write on that paper with a pen.. you cant change it"
04:20.22MiX-MaNme: "uhh you lost me there"
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04:20.27HattCzechhahah
04:20.37ssrhow do you put the palm pre plus in developers mode
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04:21.08MiX-MaNssr: konami code :P
04:21.34MiX-MaN"upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart"
04:21.37MiX-MaNwell... f u 2
04:21.39halfhaloso late
04:21.53MiX-MaNheh
04:22.04HattCzech'webos20090606' also works
04:22.13MiX-MaNkonami is more fun :)
04:22.15HattCzech(without the single quotes, of course)
04:22.31MiX-MaNor wait is it upupdowndown or updownupdown
04:22.36MiX-MaNoh well.. he's gone who cares
04:22.41HattCzechupupdowndown :) hehe
04:22.42HattCzechtrue
04:22.48MiX-MaN:P
04:23.07MiX-MaNim lazy anyhow.. i just grabed the devmode launcher
04:23.42MiX-MaNso.. you think i should be nice and put preware on this thing for her?
04:25.30MiX-MaNhell no.. im not gonna do it.. then she'll call me like every day.. i messed it up again
04:25.49MiX-MaNor "i installed something and it got really hot now it wont turn on..."
04:26.35halfhaloOk, making a js wirc will be super easy
04:26.57MiX-MaN:P
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04:29.03MiX-MaNohh
04:29.06MiX-MaNthere putting the cap on
04:29.12MiX-MaNlet watch it fail in realtime
04:29.25halfhalolink or it didn't happen
04:29.34MiX-MaNhttp://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/03/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
04:30.35MiX-MaNhttp://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T1 <- live vid
04:30.52MiX-MaNnot much to see
04:31.02MiX-MaNwhat ever that thing is.. looks like a brain and stem
04:31.04MiX-MaNheh
04:31.59MiX-MaNomg this is bad
04:32.07MiX-MaNunmodified pre
04:32.10halfhalolol
04:32.13MiX-MaNfrom stock
04:32.13MiX-MaNlol
04:32.15halfhalovid no like my mac
04:32.28MiX-MaN:/
04:32.47MiX-MaNhttp://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605
04:32.49MiX-MaNtry that one
04:33.19halfhalo...
04:33.21halfhalonope
04:33.26MiX-MaN:\
04:33.28halfhaloneeds flip4mac
04:33.33MiX-MaNnot missing much anyhow
04:33.34MiX-MaNhehe
04:33.42MiX-MaNjust the wierd brain looking thing
04:34.22MiX-MaN"The next 12 to 24 hours will give us an indication of how successful this attempt will be," Hayward told reporters at the company's U.S. headquarters in Houston, Texas.
04:34.24MiX-MaNahh..
04:34.29MiX-MaNi'll have to check it in the morning
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04:35.17MiX-MaN" The more primitive cut means that a rubber seal will not be as tight as previously hoped, meaning a dome won't completely contain the spill, said U.S. Coast Guard Adm."
04:35.19MiX-MaNlol.. nice
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04:36.38MiX-MaNhmm.. pre's pretty quick running stock
04:36.50halfhaloIusually run mine stock
04:37.00MiX-MaNhad about 15 patchs on mine
04:37.06MiX-MaNfew things i had to have
04:37.21MiX-MaNsmall icons, device menu, date bar being the most important
04:37.53MiX-MaNheh when i first found preware .. i installed in upwards of like ... 50 patchs or so
04:37.55hapemorning
04:37.59MiX-MaNdid'nt work so well
04:38.11haperwhitby: thanks for the info, will do the chnage
04:38.12MiX-MaNhape: evening...
04:38.24rwhitbyhape: already done
04:38.41hapeMiX-MaN: ;-), I love worldwide projects
04:38.50MiX-MaN:)
04:39.03haperwhitby: ok, thanks
04:39.17halfhaloIts the pinnacle of efficiency!  Well, it would be if I were not here disctracting people.....
04:39.33MiX-MaNspeaking of distracting
04:39.36MiX-MaNneed sleep
04:39.43MiX-MaNgotta be up early for the bestbuy rampage
04:39.53halfhalobb?
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04:39.59MiX-MaNevo
04:40.07MiX-MaNgonna look like an iTard standing out there
04:40.08halfhaloAhhhh
04:40.22MiX-MaN:P
04:40.51MiX-MaNthey called me up like yesterday... already sold me a bunch of crap before i even made it to the store
04:40.54MiX-MaNyou want a case?
04:40.57MiX-MaNwhat about a charger?
04:41.02MiX-MaNjesus ppl
04:42.43MiX-MaNanyways
04:42.46MiX-MaNlaterz all :)
04:42.50MiX-MaNi'll still idle around
04:43.02MiX-MaNmaybe the evo will suck and i'll come crawling back
04:43.08halfhaloheh
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07:22.24swisstomcatmorning
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08:24.03Doblehd
08:24.32Doblecan anyone help me install preware?
08:24.41swisstomcathi
08:24.58Doblecan u help me?
08:25.02swisstomcathttp://preware.org/#/install/
08:25.07swisstomcatdoes that help?
08:26.26Dobleeh not really.   I have WebOS Quick install   installed and WebOS Doctor installed but when i open quickinstall it just tells me to download doctor.
08:26.41swisstomcathmm
08:26.51swisstomcatare both files in the same directory?
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08:27.34Doblewell i am not a super expert on computer so i'm not sure what that means. haha sorry. and also i'm on a mac
08:28.15swisstomcatthat's fine
08:28.39swisstomcatdid you download the webosquickinstall and webos doctor to the same place/folder?
08:29.33DobleNo i downloaded them straight to the downloads file.
08:29.43Dobleif i move them to the same file will that work?
08:30.43swisstomcatare they both in the downloads folder then?
08:31.11Dobleyes
08:31.52swisstomcati would assume that it would work then
08:35.06Doblei really have no idea whats wrong then. Do you think it would be easier to do all of this on a PC?
08:35.57swisstomcati have not tried it on a mac yet
08:36.14swisstomcatbut i would assume it would work the same
08:37.54Dobleyay its working now. im not sure what i did but its working.
08:38.02DobleThank you so much for your help.
08:38.40swisstomcatwohoo
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08:39.54Doblethanks for the help again. bye
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15:34.19MiX-MaNmmm
15:34.22MiX-MaNthis thing is sexy
15:34.35en0x?
15:34.40MiX-MaNsexy evo is sexy
15:34.55en0xgot ya
15:34.59MiX-MaNex is happy with her pre :P
15:35.02en0xtoo big for my taste
15:35.31halfhaloYes, but does the evo have its own dedicated irc bot in its irc channel?
15:35.39MiX-MaNnot yet :P
15:35.40MiX-MaNhehe
15:35.51halfhalonodejs-irc say Haha!
15:35.52nodejs-ircHaha!
15:36.04MiX-MaN:P
15:36.11MiX-MaNthats next on the agenda
15:36.16halfhalosuuuure
15:36.24MiX-MaNhehe
15:36.28MiX-MaNsprints upgrade system went down
15:36.34halfhaloeh
15:36.35MiX-MaNafter i got mine upgraded
15:36.44MiX-MaNesn upgrade
15:36.45halfhaloI'm not upgrading my phone on sprint
15:36.56en0xme too
15:36.58halfhaloI'm going to run out my contract and switch
15:37.07en0xhalfhalo, to att? :P
15:37.12MiX-MaNeww
15:37.15halfhaloSprint works EVERYWHERE but my house
15:37.21halfhaloand no, to tmo
15:37.28en0xi had tmo year ago
15:37.33MiX-MaNthats norm how sprint works
15:37.35halfhalothey have really good coverage around me now
15:37.38en0xaint bad but their data  plans...
15:37.38MiX-MaNworks everywhere except my house :)
15:37.47MiX-MaNalthough since i moved theres a tower right behind me
15:37.50en0xi have good coverage everywhere
15:37.55en0xeven in my house
15:37.56en0x;d
15:38.23halfhalowell, its 60 bucks for unlimited, and I can then move my little brother from vzw to it and get him unlimited texts/data/whatevs instead of what he as now
15:38.35MiX-MaNverizon is nice
15:38.41halfhalobut pricy
15:38.44MiX-MaNused to have them.. till i screwed em over :/
15:38.59halfhaloI miss my vzw tethering for 15 a month....
15:39.10en0xwhy on tmo even more plus is cheaper than even more with 2yr contract?
15:39.24halfhaloyou get the phone upfront
15:39.34halfhalono subsisidies
15:39.39halfhaloand with that, brb driving to work
15:41.13en0xso basically i have to pay for the phone as it costs not discount or any sit?
15:41.16en0xshit*
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15:43.46erraderwhitby: Sorry for the delay
15:43.55erraderwhitby: Linux version 2.6.24-palm-chuck (reviewdaemon@buildoe-25) (gcc version 4.2.1 (CodeSourcery Sourcery G++ Lite 2007q3-51)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 15 21:56:56 PDT 2010
15:44.43HattCzech_workMiX-MaN: what was the plan price?
15:45.00HattCzech_work(difference between everything data and 4g?)
15:46.27HattCzech_workback in a bit... have to be somewhere
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15:54.48jdubhttp://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Java_Support_in_webOS <- this page suggests palm is going to get rid of oasisvm; where was that announced?
15:55.04jdubrwhitby: finally got a pre :-) :-)
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16:11.24swisstomcatjdub: it was announced at the palm developer days
16:11.40swisstomcatthey will start to use javascript-services
16:11.44halfhalo_classYup
16:11.47halfhalo_classWhich are fun
16:11.57swisstomcatapparently
16:12.14swisstomcathow do you like node.js?
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16:12.29hh-slavebotNode.js is Fun!
16:13.07halfhalo_classsee, even the bot likes it
16:13.24halfhalo_classand HE only knows like 4 things
16:14.07halfhalo_classhh-slavebot leave #webos
16:14.07hh-slavebotByeBye!
16:14.14swisstomcathave yet to look at node.js
16:14.20swisstomcatit IS a slave
16:14.22halfhalo_classIt is seriously easy
16:14.33swisstomcati've seen some samples
16:14.51halfhalo_classMy irc bot is 2 files only
16:14.57halfhalo_classthe irc class, and the bot
16:15.29halfhalo_classhh-slavebot quit
16:16.37halfhalo_classIt has no error handling right now though, thats its main issue
16:17.19halfhalo_classIt only knows how to respond to PRIVMSG, and the irc class emits that along with join and quit things
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16:19.31halfhalo_classBut emitters are cool
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16:22.13spears_hawkeyeI'm having problem installing preware
16:22.33halfhalo_classthats not good
16:23.58en0xsorry
16:27.40halfhalo_classok, well, apparently quit and part are sent as two seperate events
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16:38.38mjkjr~seen uNiXpSyCho
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16:39.31halfhalo_classHah
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16:41.57mjkjrI just want to know about 'on ts charger' setting under screen state governor.
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16:47.23jdubswisstomcat: aha, thanks
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16:59.23halfhalo_classcan't get ACTION working properly....
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17:33.09BeeRadquick question, how do I remove an app from save/restore?
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17:33.24halfhalo_classno idea
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17:34.52BeeRadI tried using Jasons Internalz but it's not completely removing.
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17:37.43BeeRadI don't know why but it just bothers me seeing an app in save/restore that I don't even use anymore.
17:38.08oilsworknlol
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17:44.29mjkjrBeeRad: connect via usb and delete from save/restore folder
17:44.38swisstomcatrehi
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18:10.14spears_hawkeyehow do I download preware without connecting to my desktop
18:10.40oilsworknis there even a way?
18:11.54spears_hawkeyeI don't know.  That's whyim asking
18:12.33oilsworknit needs to be connected
18:12.39oilsworknto either install preware
18:12.52oilsworknor install something else that will let you get on the pre and install preware
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18:14.16oilsworkn(as far as i know anyways)
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18:23.32Tilton53that guy is crazy oilsworkn
18:23.33Tilton53XD
18:23.47Tilton53Even if he got it to install he should have a computer he can the web doctor on
18:23.48Tilton53<_<
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18:33.10luke-jrwhere can I get libdbus-dev?
18:33.32swisstomcatopensource.palm.com?
18:37.10en0xbleee
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18:48.56spears_hawkeyehow do I install preware on my palm without having internet on desktop
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18:50.12nodejs-guestholycrap it works
18:50.16sk1tt1zhey how would i add a tar.gz file to a tar file?
18:50.29nodejs-guestI honestly have no idea
18:50.37sk1tt1zvia terminal taht is :p
18:51.38en0xsk1tt1z, tar,gz its akready a tar file
18:51.46sk1tt1zi know
18:52.02sk1tt1zremember yesterday I was trying to pull apart doctor an add files?
18:52.19en0xso if u know then why u ask stupid question?
18:52.28sk1tt1zwell i got it. i've got nova-cust-rootfs.tar.gz put together with all permissions
18:52.37sk1tt1znow I need to re-add it to webos.tar
18:52.45spears_hawkeyeso I need internet on home computer to install preware on cell
18:52.55sk1tt1zno
18:53.05sk1tt1zopen up terminal on ur cell and type cd/tmp
18:53.08sk1tt1zcd /tmp
18:53.19sk1tt1zwget http://bit.ly/preware-bootstrap
18:53.25sk1tt1zsh preware-bootstrap
18:53.31halfhalo_classand... how would he be getting a terminal....
18:53.45sk1tt1zidk maybe he has a doctored os
18:54.02sk1tt1zi mean doctored by he's changed it somehow haha
18:54.26sk1tt1zor he can use novaproxy.py and then use putty to ssh into the phone over root and then type those commands
18:54.32sk1tt1zor maybe he has wosqi
18:54.45sk1tt1zthere's like 50 ways to terminal the pre lol
18:55.08spears_hawkeyeI have the updated version of java on home computer but like I said don't have internet service
18:56.05en0xso u got a problem
18:56.18en0xeot
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18:57.12HattCzech_workMiX-MaN: you around?
18:57.29spears_hawkeyeyeap
18:57.31spears_hawkeyepls help me fix it
18:58.02en0xyap he will magically put preware on your desktop so u can install it on ur pre
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19:20.30sk1tt1ztar -f webos.tar -r ./nova-custblahblah
19:20.32sk1tt1z:)
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20:56.53sk1tt1shI DIDIT!!!! hahaha woot!
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21:03.20sk1tt1shrwhitby you is a fkn genius bro.
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21:17.01sk1tt1shNOOOOOOOOOOOO!
21:17.20sk1tt1shis there any error logging for webosdoctor?
21:17.43swisstomcatwell
21:17.46swisstomcaton the console
21:17.59swisstomcatif you start the doctor on the console/terminal/commandline
21:18.13sk1tt1shlike open up command prompt?
21:18.18swisstomcate.g java -jar WebOSDoctor.jar
21:18.19swisstomcatyeah
21:18.19sk1tt1shand run it from cmd?
21:19.01sk1tt1shwill that assist in determining why it gives that stupid "we were unable to reset your device" error?
21:19.49chrisarwhitby / oil: around?
21:20.15swisstomcatmaybe, it does some logging
21:20.19swisstomcattry it
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21:21.31fredsahi guys.  Is there any info on installing preware on a pre through ubuntu 10.4?  The webosquickinstall.jar can't be run on 10.4 so I can't follow the instructions on the website
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21:22.03fredsawhen I say, it can't be run, I mean that I can't run it.  If it can be run I'd love to hear how :)
21:22.18bpadalino|workwhat happens when you try to run it ?
21:22.28swisstomcatit can't be run?
21:22.30swisstomcatwhat's the problem?
21:22.35swisstomcati have 10.04 too
21:22.43swisstomcatand 9.04 and 9.10
21:22.57sk1tt1shweird the phone seems to boot fine
21:23.05fredsaswisstomcat, well something runs but I don't see any window
21:23.24swisstomcattry java -jar webosquickinstall.jar
21:23.28fredsathat's what I do
21:23.29swisstomcatin the terminal
21:23.46swisstomcatand what's the output you get in the terminal?
21:24.10fredsaI do get a window button in the bottom bar titled "download required", but there's no window on the desktop
21:24.12sk1tt1shi will do that in a min.
21:24.26fredsaswisstomcat, I don't see any output
21:24.38swisstomcatdid you download the webosdoctor as well, fredsa?
21:24.55fredsano, I thought it installs that when you run it
21:25.07swisstomcattrue
21:25.24swisstomcatyou can try to download it yourself
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21:25.37swisstomcatwhat does java -version say in the terminal?
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21:26.10sk1tt1sh1.6.0_20
21:26.14MouseyJAVA!
21:26.17Mouseyruns
21:26.21fredsaOpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8) (6b18-1.8-0ubuntu1)
21:26.33swisstomcatthrows a cheese at mousey
21:26.39Mouseycomes back
21:26.43swisstomcatthat might be a problem, fredsa
21:26.58fredsaswisstomcat, I was going to ask
21:27.11fredsabut there's no official java package in the repo
21:27.26fredsaunless I hvae to add it...
21:27.34fredsagoes to investigate
21:27.55swisstomcatjava version "1.6.0_13"
21:27.56swisstomcatJava(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03)
21:27.56swisstomcatJava HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.3-b02, mixed mode)
21:28.11bpadalino|workyou have to add it as an extra third party multiverse thing, don't you ?
21:28.14swisstomcatyeah
21:28.16sk1tt1shcould there be a trouble with the fact that im using win7x64?
21:28.16swisstomcati think so
21:28.18bpadalino|workbecause it isn't completely free or something
21:28.42swisstomcatsk1tt1sh: only if you installed 32bit java
21:28.46sk1tt1shI wonder if it's something i did wrong with meta-doctor
21:28.55sk1tt1shwell i've had successful flashes on the phone
21:31.08sk1tt1shbasically I added some files into nova-cust-rootfs and sprint.tar retar'd (haha) it and then ran it through metadoctor
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21:37.29halfhalo_preIt's Alive!
21:37.32sk1tt1shswisstomcat can i pipe the output from java -jar webos.jar to a text document?
21:37.51swisstomcatyeah
21:38.14sk1tt1shokay cool
21:38.22halfhalo_classhmmm.  halfhalo_pre seems to have crashed
21:38.26halfhalo_classOR not
21:38.30fredsaI've already got multiverse enabled but sun-java6-jre isn't available
21:40.08fredsait's not available but it's referred to by another package (I'm guessing the firefox plugin)
21:40.39fredsaswisstomcat, was your version of 10.04 an upgrade or a clean install?
21:41.05swisstomcatclean
21:41.40fredsaand you just installed the sun java jre though the repos?
21:42.07swisstomcatit's in the partner repo
21:42.17swisstomcatsudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner”
21:42.24swisstomcatsudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
21:43.47sk1tt1shdamn a full erase takes FOREVER
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21:44.22swisstomcati'm off, good night
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21:46.50halfhalo_preThe pink... it burns!
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21:47.31halfhalo_prebut at least its a semi fully featured client
21:50.56sk1tt1shwhat is?
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21:51.19halfhalo_preMade an irc client in node.js
21:51.27sk1tt1shhaha niec
21:55.58fredsaok, I've installed sun-java6-jre but java -version is still reporting openjdk.  How can I run the sun jre?
21:57.38halfhalo_prestill can't get the action thing working right
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22:07.37sk1tt1shok so it looks like the "rom verifier" in the end of the webosdoc is seeing the files I added and crapping out on them
22:07.42sk1tt1shuhm
22:08.07sk1tt1shhow do I add those files to my webos doc so it doesn't fail when it goes through verification.
22:10.39sk1tt1shso basically the phone is installed correctly just the files I changed pissed off the installer. GRR! haha
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22:15.26sk1tt1shanyone have any idea's how to make integcheck not fail?
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22:30.53halfhalo_classok, this is really pissing me off
22:30.59HattCzech_workwhat is?
22:31.10halfhalo_classtrying to get this irc thing to work
22:31.35HattCzech_workdid you get your regex stuff working?
22:31.45halfhalo_classyeah
22:31.52halfhalo_classbut stuck on /me
22:32.09halfhalo_classI can't seem to get the encoding/format/something right
22:32.41HattCzech_workpastebin?
22:32.49HattCzech_work(i'm no pro, but i enjoy playing with that stuff)
22:33.25halfhalo_classheh, for this I have just been sending raw commands to the server
22:33.54halfhalo_classactually, let me try something
22:35.42beelzabubwhat's the problem with integcheck you're having?
22:37.06PuffTheMagichalfhalo_class: what irc thing?
22:37.14halfhalo_classirc client in node.js
22:37.29PuffTheMagicnode.js?
22:37.34halfhalo_classyeah
22:37.44halfhalo_classsupposed to be close to what js services will be
22:38.13PuffTheMagichalfhalo_class: trying to push out wirc?
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22:38.17halfhalo_classyup
22:38.18beelzabubsk1tt1sh - read the script
22:38.25beelzabubit's pretty well documented
22:38.26halfhalo_classbut this is only on the desktop for now
22:39.02PuffTheMagichalfhalo_class: some existing js irc client or something u made?
22:39.14halfhalo_classwrote from pretty much scratch
22:39.17beelzabubsk1tt1sh - run integcheck
22:39.22beelzabubit'll print help options
22:39.30beelzabub-a will ignore extra stuff you put on there
22:39.38halfhalo_classI started out with bits an pieces from other projects but most of that is removed/redone now
22:41.23sk1tt1shbeelzabub read which script
22:41.31beelzabubintegcheck
22:41.33beelzabubit's in usr/sbin
22:41.35sk1tt1shno
22:41.39sk1tt1shi already checked it
22:41.59beelzabub&? did you see the -a option?
22:42.06sk1tt1shI took files from a custom rom from before that was 1.3.5
22:42.10sk1tt1shyea
22:42.16beelzabuboh
22:42.17sk1tt1shbut these files were in the other doc
22:42.27beelzabubyou put files from an old build & tried to put them on a new one?
22:42.43sk1tt1shyes
22:43.10beelzabubnot sure why you would want to do that, but either update /md5sums, remove those lines from md5sum, or modify integcheck to always return 0
22:43.11sk1tt1shonly a few though that are not really that key they're carrier specific files
22:43.15beelzabubin that order of recommendation
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22:43.24beelzabubalthough overall i don't recommend putting files from an old build on a new one
22:43.28nodejs-guestTestyTesty
22:43.29sk1tt1shhow do I update the /md5sums?
22:43.43nodejs-guestAnd... It works!
22:43.45beelzabubwhat do you mean? same way you put the old files into the doctor
22:44.06beelzabubi'm not familiar with webos doctor & whatnot
22:44.10sk1tt1shI dont know how to do md5sums for the addons
22:44.20beelzabubare you on linux
22:44.21beelzabub?
22:44.26beelzabubjust run md5sum <file>
22:44.27sk1tt1shi have it on a virtualbox
22:44.29sk1tt1shoh
22:44.31sk1tt1shhahahahahaha
22:44.32sk1tt1shrofl
22:44.39beelzabubthen modify the /md5sum file in the image
22:44.42nodejs-guestlinux is for people withough windows
22:44.45sk1tt1shso i have the log of what failed in integcheck
22:44.45nodejs-guest:p
22:45.05sk1tt1shjust the ones it didn't like update those md5sums and we're good?
22:45.14beelzabubwindows is for people who like to be masochists when they develop
22:45.19nodejs-guestmebe
22:45.19beelzabubyup
22:45.36nodejs-guestI need to work on the terminal integration with this irc thing
22:45.40sk1tt1shwoot!
22:45.40nodejs-guestits baaaaad
22:45.44sk1tt1shthanks for the help!
22:45.44nodejs-guestcolorful, but bad
22:46.16beelzabubno prob
22:46.24beelzabubbut again, i recommend not grabbing old files
22:46.33beelzabubnot sure why you are doing that
22:46.44beelzabubit'll just cause you constant pain
22:46.53nodejs-guestI'll clean up the source and post it later tonight
22:48.06nodejs-guestme me me me!
22:48.37HattCzech_workwere those all /me's?
22:48.45nodejs-guestno, just one
22:48.57HattCzech_workokay, cool, so i guess you fixed it
22:49.00nodejs-guestyup
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23:19.07projectAlarumanyone know if it'd be possible to pass a css transition to to the wallpaper service/method?
23:19.49HattCzech_workif patch the css, then i'd say yes
23:21.17projectAlarumthat's what I figured, but I wasn't sure if you can access the particular css file
23:22.01HattCzech_workyeah, you can basically access everything on the phone :)
23:22.04projectAlarumI know how to use the service call to it but it seems to just be an db entry from what I can tell
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23:23.22projectAlarumor where the css file is that contains it, if it's not just a db entry
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