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| 00:59.11 | babyburg | <3 Pre. |
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| 01:03.09 | ka6sox | Sethron: I'll know in about 10 minutes whether the idea of how to bootstrap debian lenny works. |
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| 01:14.31 | ka6sox | hiya jhowirc |
| 01:14.42 | jhowirc | werd |
| 01:15.04 | ka6sox | looking into methods to implement the cleaning (as I'm waiting for things to download) |
| 01:15.13 | jhowirc | k |
| 01:15.23 | jhowirc | I'm at the movies. |
| 01:15.28 | jhowirc | =) |
| 01:15.34 | ka6sox | kewl..whatcha seeing? |
| 01:16.31 | jhowirc | shrek. |
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| 01:16.50 | ka6sox | oh fun, lemme know what you think of it. |
| 01:17.21 | jhowirc | k |
| 01:18.15 | jhowirc | I need to check this when I get home but was wondering if there was a way to reset time_in_state |
| 01:18.36 | ka6sox | dunno... |
| 01:19.55 | jhowirc | would be nice to have that feature inside govnah. |
| 01:20.10 | jhowirc | waits for oil to roll over |
| 01:20.59 | xsism | is it possible to interface the IR sensor on the pre/pixi? |
| 01:22.15 | ka6sox | jhowirc, ya...poor oil |
| 01:22.34 | Kyusaku | the proximity sensor? |
| 01:22.49 | ka6sox | xsism, I haven't looked but its probably already occupied. |
| 01:23.21 | xsism | ok |
| 01:23.44 | ka6sox | jhowirc, there are already methods for controlling the Governor settings. |
| 01:23.54 | xsism | anyone know why this doesnt work: PDL_ServiceCall("palm://com.palm.applicationManager/open", "{target: \"tel://5550005555\"}"); |
| 01:24.16 | ka6sox | so if we can figure out the reset for the t-i-s file then we are golden. |
| 01:26.07 | xsism | what governor? |
| 01:26.09 | xsism | lol |
| 01:26.44 | ka6sox | bunzip2 debsmall.img.bz2 |
| 01:27.11 | ka6sox | xsism, we are talking about the Govnah Application. |
| 01:27.42 | xsism | which is? |
| 01:27.45 | xsism | cpu temp app? |
| 01:27.50 | xsism | from quick google |
| 01:27.52 | xsism | ? |
| 01:27.57 | ka6sox | among other things. |
| 01:28.15 | ka6sox | controls speed and other things...and monitors the CPU. |
| 01:28.16 | ka6sox | temp |
| 01:28.27 | xsism | is it homebrew? |
| 01:28.31 | ka6sox | yes |
| 01:28.57 | ka6sox | it and the companion kernel for the pre called uberkernel allow you to have a lot of control. |
| 01:29.20 | xsism | and still have phone calls? |
| 01:29.34 | ka6sox | I hope so! |
| 01:29.44 | xsism | ya heh |
| 01:29.48 | ka6sox | nobody's complained about not being able to make phone calls yet. |
| 01:30.04 | xsism | what about app catalog access? |
| 01:30.22 | ka6sox | not part of this application. |
| 01:30.56 | xsism | what software channel do you use? |
| 01:30.59 | xsism | apt? |
| 01:31.14 | ka6sox | preware or optware using ipkgs |
| 01:33.35 | xsism | what is uberkernel based on? |
| 01:33.54 | ka6sox | palm's stock kernel with mods. |
| 01:34.13 | xsism | is it against any agreements to mod the kernel? |
| 01:34.19 | oil | poor me? |
| 01:34.20 | xsism | like carrier? |
| 01:34.23 | ka6sox | checkout www.webos-internals.org |
| 01:34.30 | ka6sox | xsism, its all GPL. |
| 01:34.45 | ka6sox | (well the stuff we are hacking on is) |
| 01:34.48 | xsism | ya iwas looking through the website |
| 01:34.59 | ka6sox | oil, more changes to your interfaces :D |
| 01:35.01 | xsism | well thats cool |
| 01:35.04 | oil | lol |
| 01:35.17 | ka6sox | govnah and syshealth |
| 01:35.46 | ka6sox | oil, that won't be for a couple of days. |
| 01:35.55 | oil | yeah |
| 01:36.39 | halfhalo | wakkawakkawakka |
| 01:37.01 | zsoc | I'm in an odd position. I usually hang around OSS folks, I don't even know what to say when someone calls GPL "roughly equivalant to running a magnent over your code" |
| 01:37.01 | ka6sox | today I'm setting up widk on my office/dev machine and I'm about 90% of the way to getting debian chroot running in the new /dev/store/ext3fs 2GB partition. |
| 01:38.31 | ka6sox | zsoc, just shake your head and walk away. |
| 01:38.37 | bpadalino | code is not ferrous, so what would a magnet do ? |
| 01:39.13 | ka6sox | bpadalino, probably analgous to the typical medium for the code to be residing on is magnetc. |
| 01:39.17 | ka6sox | +i |
| 01:39.43 | bpadalino | oh, weird .. all my embedded systems run code from flash :) |
| 01:40.53 | ka6sox | okay...development machines. |
| 01:40.53 | ka6sox | well..I can't say that either |
| 01:40.53 | ka6sox | the beagleboard uses an SD. |
| 01:41.13 | bpadalino | heh |
| 01:41.56 | ka6sox | w00t! works. |
| 01:42.12 | bpadalino | ^5 |
| 01:42.33 | ka6sox | 1.6gb free for apps and stuff. |
| 01:43.22 | ka6sox | too bad enlightenment uses right click |
| 01:43.39 | ka6sox | and I'm no fan of xfce....so what does that leave? |
| 01:47.02 | ka6sox | 2.0G 262.4M 1.7G 13% /media/ext3fs |
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| 01:49.23 | bpadalino | base debian install with x is 262MB ? |
| 01:49.33 | ka6sox | no x yet |
| 01:49.41 | bpadalino | ah |
| 01:50.02 | ka6sox | I'm going to get together with dtzWill and work out what we need. |
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| 01:50.52 | ka6sox | I'm going to test the script that I just wrote and do it again several times. |
| 01:53.43 | ka6sox | to make sure that it always works. |
| 01:55.23 | ka6sox | single threaded/single user/single app computers are useless. (unless they are deeply embedded) |
| 01:56.54 | oc80z | hey. whats good? |
| 01:58.04 | ka6sox | things are happening. |
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| 02:03.41 | ka6sox | shoots xen |
| 02:09.20 | PuffTheMagic | can i slap a .defer() onto any js function? |
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| 02:16.53 | ka6sox | mount -o bind /proc /media/ext3fs/proc |
| 02:19.52 | ka6sox | PuffTheMagic, this same methodology should work for a stage 3 as well. |
| 02:22.52 | ka6sox | or a minimum FC too. |
| 02:23.07 | ka6sox | whats the latest stable FC? |
| 02:29.21 | ka6sox | Sethron, it works. and my script works too. |
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| 03:06.48 | ka6sox | can somebody try to download this and see if it fails @ about the 44Meg Mark? |
| 03:06.49 | ka6sox | http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/sources/i686-unknown-linux-gnu-1.4.1.tar.gz |
| 03:07.45 | bpadalino | 2010-06-13 23:07:39 (3.94 MB/s) - `i686-unknown-linux-gnu-1.4.1.tar.gz' saved [44781126/44781126] |
| 03:07.50 | bpadalino | it says it's only 44MB |
| 03:08.09 | ka6sox | I know..but wget sayss its 2X the size :P |
| 03:08.18 | bpadalino | oh .. does it? |
| 03:08.20 | bpadalino | i just did a wget |
| 03:08.42 | ka6sox | apparently this wget i have it bork3n then. |
| 03:08.42 | bpadalino | seems to have worked just fine for me |
| 03:08.56 | ka6sox | asigh |
| 03:08.59 | bpadalino | sorry |
| 03:09.25 | ka6sox | well..its making the make toolchain fail for widk. |
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| 03:09.49 | bpadalino | oh |
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| 03:31.27 | rwhitby | ok, let's see if these compcache kernel modules do something with uber-kernel ... |
| 03:32.51 | rwhitby | how rude, webos quick install doesn't ask before rebooting your device after installing a kernel |
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| 03:36.50 | rwhitby | insmod works :) |
| 03:37.06 | rwhitby | Module Size Used by |
| 03:37.07 | rwhitby | ramzswap 14448 0 |
| 03:37.07 | rwhitby | xvmalloc 6560 1 ramzswap |
| 03:38.28 | ka6sox | and if swap gets a little close you add some more swap with a file. |
| 03:39.26 | rwhitby | root@palm-webos-device:/lib/modules/2.6.24-palm-joplin-3430/extra# swapon -s |
| 03:39.26 | rwhitby | Filename Type Size Used Priority |
| 03:39.26 | rwhitby | /dev/ramzswap0 partition 131064 0 1 |
| 03:40.16 | ka6sox | now open a bunch of cards and see how it goes. |
| 03:46.43 | rwhitby | ZeroPages: 989 |
| 03:46.44 | rwhitby | GoodCompress: 100 % |
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| 03:46.54 | rwhitby | MemUsedTotal: 10112 kB |
| 03:47.02 | rwhitby | 3:1 compression of swapped pages |
| 03:47.19 | ka6sox | nice |
| 03:49.44 | rwhitby | we'll want to get those stats in Govnah |
| 03:52.26 | rwhitby | ZeroPages: 1058 |
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| 03:52.32 | rwhitby | OrigDataSize: 50360 kB |
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| 03:52.36 | rwhitby | MemUsedTotal: 15608 kB |
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| 03:55.22 | ka6sox | 3:1 is awesome |
| 03:55.37 | ka6sox | whats the overhead penalty? |
| 03:56.09 | rwhitby | the difference between ComprDataSize and MemUsedTotal |
| 03:56.39 | ka6sox | oh...I meant in time. |
| 03:56.50 | ka6sox | compressing and decompressing on the fly |
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| 04:02.54 | rwhitby | dunno, but it's gotta be faster than accessing flash |
| 04:04.37 | ka6sox | oh I'm sure it is. |
| 04:08.52 | rwhitby | ka6sox: cat /sys/class/memnotify/meminfo |
| 04:10.59 | ka6sox | http://webos-internals.pastebin.com/nMTVJENE |
| 04:11.42 | ka6sox | running uber |
| 04:22.25 | Kyusaku | what happened to mvapp? Recently I had to wipe out the email and attachment folders on /var, my device was randomly freezing up because of low disk space on that partition. |
| 04:22.52 | Kyusaku | actually more like completely locking up. |
| 04:22.58 | rwhitby | Kyusaku: I don't think it got updated after 1.3.5 |
| 04:23.13 | Kyusaku | I see |
| 04:23.44 | rwhitby | ok, looks like the TMC error doesn't take into account free swap space |
| 04:34.46 | ka6sox | rwhitby, are you using F104? |
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| 04:38.26 | rwhitby | ka6sox: no, I'm adding compcache to uber |
| 04:39.20 | ka6sox | oh...are you using 0.54 though? |
| 04:39.36 | Kyusaku | speaking of, the last few kernel builds on the testing feed have been pretty nice. |
| 04:41.21 | Kyusaku | most notable is some of the battery saving. |
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| 04:50.57 | rwhitby | Kyusaku: which ones? |
| 04:51.50 | Kyusaku | .31 and .35, only added the feed a day or 2 ago. |
| 04:53.06 | rwhitby | uber? |
| 04:53.33 | Kyusaku | yeah |
| 04:54.19 | ka6sox | installing .35 |
| 04:54.58 | Kyusaku | never got into unixpsycho's compcache kernel or the other one |
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| 04:55.55 | Kyusaku | or Bromwich's |
| 05:05.40 | ka6sox | rwhitby, we have no way of knowing what kernel we have in as the uname -a string is the same. |
| 05:06.01 | sk1tt1sh | sup yall :) |
| 05:10.20 | sk1tt1sh | fine. i know noob ?'s can be annoying but cant even say hi... lol :p |
| 05:10.43 | ka6sox | sk1tt1sh, just busy here...working on stuff. |
| 05:11.39 | rwhitby | ka6sox: cat /proc/version |
| 05:12.57 | rwhitby | Linux version 2.6.24-palm-joplin-3430 (v1.4.1-35@org.webosinternals.kernels.uber-kernel-pre) (gcc version 4.2.1 (CodeSourcery Sourcery G++ Lite 2007q3-51)) #1 Mon Jun 14 03:17:29 UTC 2010 |
| 05:17.07 | ka6sox | govnah should know that. |
| 05:17.08 | ka6sox | :D |
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| 05:29.17 | sk1tt1sh | i know just kidding around. |
| 05:36.08 | sk1tt1sh | http://pastebin.com/W6tg53WP wtf is the deal with that? |
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| 05:43.19 | sk1tt1sh | how come ipkg-build keeps telling me unable to load key file? |
| 05:43.34 | sk1tt1sh | did this |
| 05:43.35 | sk1tt1sh | openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout mycert.pem -out mycert.pem |
| 05:43.40 | sk1tt1sh | then extracted key: |
| 05:43.46 | sk1tt1sh | openssl rsa -in mycert.pem -pubout -out pubkey.pem |
| 05:43.52 | sk1tt1sh | but it won't work for ipkg-build |
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| 05:47.46 | rwhitby | it wants a private key, not a public key. |
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| 05:47.53 | rwhitby | since you're signing. |
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| 06:01.51 | sk1tt1sh | how do i get a private key? |
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| 06:48.47 | swisstomcat | morning |
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| 06:56.13 | rwhitby | So it seems that the TMC error calculations are not using the correct values |
| 06:57.23 | rwhitby | http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2506651 |
| 06:57.42 | swisstomcat | oh |
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| 07:00.06 | swisstomcat | very interesting thread |
| 07:02.15 | ka6sox | rwhitby, the ramswapz device reduces the total ram available and is reflected as reduced total memory? |
| 07:02.50 | ka6sox | rwhitby: free |
| 07:02.53 | rwhitby | I think it is reflected as more used memory, rather than reducing total memory |
| 07:03.32 | rwhitby | let me check. need to reboot the device first |
| 07:04.51 | ka6sox | that model would make more sense as malloc wouldn't get confused. |
| 07:05.19 | ka6sox | they have their own module for replacing malloc if I read it right. |
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| 07:26.33 | rwhitby | testing a kernel with the calculation corrected |
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| 08:05.48 | ka6sox | <rwhitby>ZeroPages: 989 |
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| 08:05.55 | ka6sox | [20:47] <rwhitby>3:1 compression of swapped pages |
| 08:05.57 | ka6sox | where did you find this? |
| 08:06.16 | rwhitby | cat /proc/ramzswap |
| 08:06.37 | ka6sox | okay good. |
| 08:06.42 | ka6sox | now to open up some cards. |
| 08:09.26 | rwhitby | looks like 3D games are not looking at memnotify output |
| 08:10.06 | rwhitby | time to strace LunaSysMgr |
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| 08:10.30 | ka6sox | bummers...I was just about to start Doom |
| 08:10.46 | rwhitby | that will probably work |
| 08:10.52 | rwhitby | since it's not type:game |
| 08:11.13 | ka6sox | k |
| 08:11.21 | rwhitby | it's the requiredMemory field in appinfo.json which is stopping them |
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| 08:14.16 | ka6sox | 40:1 |
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| 08:17.21 | ka6sox | 25 cards and counting |
| 08:18.13 | swisstomcat | on a pre? |
| 08:18.22 | ka6sox | ya |
| 08:18.26 | swisstomcat | wow |
| 08:18.39 | ka6sox | now 29 cards |
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| 08:19.21 | ka6sox | almost 4:1 compression |
| 08:20.38 | ka6sox | 32 cards open |
| 08:21.05 | ka6sox | okay this killed it. |
| 08:21.08 | ka6sox | 33 cards. |
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| 08:21.59 | ka6sox | BDevNumReads: 983 |
| 08:22.00 | ka6sox | BDevNumWrites: 4499 |
| 08:22.30 | ka6sox | whats the max number of cards before things start to fail usually? |
| 08:22.38 | geist | nice |
| 08:22.44 | geist | way to flood the channel |
| 08:22.49 | swisstomcat | heh |
| 08:23.28 | swisstomcat | i'm thinking about getting this to run webos on: http://www.liquidware.com/shop/show/BB-ESK/Beagle+Embedded+Starter+Kit |
| 08:23.31 | swisstomcat | call me crazy? |
| 08:23.44 | geist | beagleboards are nice |
| 08:23.54 | swisstomcat | too bad the screen is only 480Ã272 |
| 08:24.28 | swisstomcat | and i wonder if i can make lunasymgr adjust to this odd resolution |
| 08:24.32 | tmzt | omap4 looks awesome |
| 08:25.45 | swisstomcat | the other odd thing is the type B-mini interface to RS232 serial for the touchscreen |
| 08:26.09 | tmzt | why wouldn't pre support sms bypassing sim card? |
| 08:27.10 | swisstomcat | "Rev C4 carries an OMAP3530 processor, the 720 MHz, ARM-Cortex A8 processor also found in the Motorola Droid and Palm Pre. The board also features 2GB NAND and SDRAM, which is mounted directly to the processor itself." |
| 08:27.44 | geist | right |
| 08:28.17 | swisstomcat | note that this one runs at 720mhz :) |
| 08:28.51 | swisstomcat | like my pre |
| 08:30.32 | swisstomcat | add gsm modem module, gps module, accelerometer module and you've got a smartphone |
| 08:30.49 | geist | battery and charger too |
| 08:31.02 | swisstomcat | 2600mah battery is included in the kit |
| 08:31.54 | swisstomcat | powers a BeagleBoard for at least 6.5 hrs |
| 08:32.05 | swisstomcat | single or dual USB charging via Type B-mini ports |
| 08:32.16 | geist | yep. got one right here |
| 08:32.59 | swisstomcat | that starter kit? |
| 08:33.06 | geist | well, a rev B board |
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| 08:33.57 | swisstomcat | oh, i thought you had that starter kit with touchscreen and battery |
| 08:34.18 | geist | no. |
| 08:34.22 | geist | i have the beagleboard |
| 08:35.43 | swisstomcat | hah, here is the last missing thing |
| 08:35.44 | swisstomcat | http://www.liquidware.com/shop/show/BB-MOD/BeagleMod |
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| 08:35.58 | rwhitby | hmm - will probably need different percentage thresholds with this new TMC calculation that includes swap space |
| 08:36.14 | swisstomcat | and |
| 08:36.15 | swisstomcat | http://www.liquidware.com/shop/show/SEN-3AX/3-axis+Accelerometer+Module |
| 08:38.31 | ka6sox | rwhitby, mine is @ 36712kb |
| 08:38.35 | ka6sox | er KB |
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| 10:39.59 | swisstomcat | rehi |
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| 13:20.30 | mumbles | im doing a full erase on my palm pre |
| 13:21.20 | swisstomcat | oh |
| 13:21.47 | mumbles | have been haveing randem reeboot isshues |
| 13:21.48 | en0x | wanna talk about it mumbles |
| 13:21.49 | en0x | ? |
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| 13:22.07 | mumbles | en0x: i think its the sticher app causing problems |
| 13:22.47 | en0x | i dont use it |
| 13:23.20 | mumbles | neither do i now :P |
| 13:23.20 | swisstomcat | why a full erase? |
| 13:23.33 | mumbles | a partall arase last week hadend fixed it |
| 13:44.27 | mumbles | dose anyone else with a palm pre get worried when there batttery gets hot? |
| 13:46.26 | rwhitby | only if the phone is not doing anything |
| 13:46.34 | mikewx | not really, we prolly should but i think we're all used to it |
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| 13:49.35 | mumbles | true. there are no fans :P |
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| 14:19.23 | rwhitby | Three 3D games loaded at the same time ... let's try for four. |
| 14:19.48 | rwhitby | 2M mem free, all swap used, 22M cached, ... |
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| 14:21.29 | swisstomcat | rehi |
| 14:22.47 | rwhitby | nope, lost LunaSysMgr control with the 4th 3D game loaded |
| 14:23.44 | rwhitby | let's try again with compcache enabled ... |
| 14:24.38 | swisstomcat | my ssd surprised me with a "no operating system found. please insert a system disk" :O |
| 14:24.51 | en0x | ;] |
| 14:25.06 | swisstomcat | after a reboot everything was fine again :/ |
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| 14:32.42 | DrFunk | sup all I'm looking for a way to add smiles to the sym box for my brother |
| 14:33.26 | rwhitby | fourth 3D game loading ... |
| 14:33.40 | Rick_work | you can add anything to the sym box. |
| 14:34.28 | Rick_work | the actual list of characters that appear on the screen is controlled by /usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/submissions/<framework_version>/resources/en_us/alternatechars_table.json |
| 14:34.53 | DrFunk | ok I got that part rick |
| 14:35.04 | Rick_work | and.... |
| 14:35.31 | DrFunk | where can I find a list to replace or add smiles that are supported on the pre |
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| 14:37.15 | Rick_work | oh, the conversion of text-strings to graphics images? |
| 14:37.31 | DrFunk | yes |
| 14:37.48 | DrFunk | its for my little brother I can care less about them |
| 14:39.06 | DrFunk | Rick_work: he wants them in the sym box so its easy for him |
| 14:39.46 | Rick_work | have you installed the patch "Smilie faces in sym box" ? |
| 14:40.25 | DrFunk | I didn't know there was a patch |
| 14:40.33 | DrFunk | preware ? |
| 14:40.44 | Rick_work | this is webOS, there's ALWAYS a patch for that. |
| 14:40.48 | Rick_work | preware, yes. |
| 14:40.54 | DrFunk | lol |
| 14:41.11 | DrFunk | good one Rick_work |
| 14:41.24 | DrFunk | going to try now for him |
| 14:41.50 | DrFunk | under messaging right |
| 14:41.52 | Rick_work | sym K or sym-Z brings up the smilies after the patch. |
| 14:45.17 | DrFunk | Rick_work: is there a difference between the 2 ? |
| 14:47.59 | DrFunk | errr brb |
| 14:51.38 | en0x | who here is from boston |
| 14:51.38 | en0x | ? |
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| 14:53.48 | DrFunk | thanks Rick_work worked now he was like what about other smiles |
| 14:54.10 | DrFunk | I just told him don't think he can have more or am I wrong |
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| 14:57.35 | DrFunk | sup swisstomcat |
| 14:57.47 | swisstomcat | not much |
| 14:58.36 | Rick_work | you don't want to get into editing the rest... |
| 14:58.42 | Rick_work | it's not trivial. |
| 14:58.47 | DrFunk | I hear that |
| 14:59.17 | rwhitby | Looks like three 3D games running at the same time is about the limit on a Pre. |
| 14:59.18 | DrFunk | ok Rick_work so tell him to leave it alone right |
| 14:59.21 | Rick_work | Relatives can be so demanding because they don't understand what's hard and what's not hard. |
| 14:59.33 | Rick_work | rwhitby a regular pre not a plus.... |
| 14:59.41 | rwhitby | Rick_work: yeah |
| 15:00.20 | DrFunk | Rick_work: did you see that pm |
| 15:00.32 | DrFunk | btw sup rwhitby |
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| 15:28.22 | Rick_work | I'm pretty sure rwhitby when to bed. It's WAY LATE there. |
| 15:28.38 | Rick_work | he's going to get like 4 and a half hours of sleep tonight |
| 15:29.06 | swisstomcat | staying up late the last few days it seems |
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| 15:54.27 | mumbles | wishes the messaging plugins actally worked on his phone |
| 16:06.48 | Rick_work | which plugins, which carrier, which OS version mumbles? |
| 16:16.06 | mumbles | Rick_work: the one that greg roll did, messaging plugins, palm pre, latest os and 01 |
| 16:16.09 | mumbles | 02 |
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| 16:27.15 | ird | chloe is way hotter than lana or lois |
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| 18:46.12 | PreGame | rod: |
| 18:46.14 | PreGame | rod? |
| 18:47.33 | swisstomcat | probably asleep |
| 18:47.39 | swisstomcat | ~seen rwhitby |
| 18:47.46 | infobot | rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals #oe #meego #nslu2-linux. Has said a total of 93 messages. Is idling for 3h 48m 5s, last said: 'Rick_work: yeah'. |
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| 18:48.15 | PreGame | if your able to make changes to one repo are you able to make changes to them all? |
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| 18:50.39 | swisstomcat | probably not? |
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| 21:31.06 | eieio | sup? |
| 21:31.33 | swisstomcat | good night |
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| 22:18.07 | oc80z | whats good. |
| 22:18.41 | ka6sox-work | air and good food. |
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| 22:29.35 | oc80z | type of food we talking about |
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| 22:44.04 | Ark1 | testing |
| 22:48.13 | ka6sox-work | oc80z, Italian |
| 22:48.29 | ka6sox-work | its what's for LUNCH |
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| 22:50.46 | Ark1 | does govnah need to be running or just installed to benefit from uberkernel? |
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| 23:27.53 | sethron|work | ka6sox-work: greetings, have you documented the new improved method to chroot? |
| 23:28.45 | playya_ | anyone is working on a more recent kernel? |
| 23:29.06 | bpadalino | a more recent one ? |
| 23:30.43 | ka6sox-work | sethron|work, I am editing the wiki now |
| 23:31.54 | playya_ | bpadalino, >2.6.32 |
| 23:31.58 | ka6sox-work | I'm just downloading it directly into /media/ext3fs, bunzip2, mkdir debimg, mount -o loop to debimg and copying it. |
| 23:32.08 | ka6sox-work | playya_, not likely |
| 23:32.20 | bpadalino | playya_: you don't think palm is already on it ? |
| 23:32.22 | sethron|work | ka6sox-work: kewl, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges is one of my favorites :) |
| 23:32.57 | ka6sox-work | okay...I'll finish but I need others who want to doctor and add the new parttion to test as well. |
| 23:34.18 | playya_ | maybe others are working on an own OS, too |
| 23:36.15 | ka6sox-work | playya_, to replace webOS on the phone? |
| 23:37.13 | ka6sox-work | sethron|work, its not just for debian...but that is the first use For it since we have an easy way to make that go. |
| 23:38.41 | playya_ | we're working on 2 images: |
| 23:38.57 | playya_ | preboot: kernel+ initramfs to enable dualboot |
| 23:39.21 | playya_ | fso-preview: fso stack +zhone |
| 23:40.10 | sethron|work | ka6sox-work: what other distros could work? |
| 23:41.32 | playya_ | i think debian, ubuntu, maybe fedora and opensuse |
| 23:45.26 | sethron|work | playya_: what about running stellarium which is dependent on opengl and Qt? |
| 23:45.52 | playya_ | afaik the opengl part is closed :( |
| 23:46.34 | beelzabub | opengl is regular opengl es2 |
| 23:47.20 | beelzabub | or do you mean from the perspective of the driver is closed? |
| 23:47.48 | playya_ | yes. from the driver side |
| 23:48.22 | playya_ | the kernel side is quite open. but the drivers only forward data into userspace |
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| 23:48.53 | playya_ | where properitary libs/daemons process the data |
| 23:49.35 | sethron|work | playya_: i thought debian/lenny is for arm devices? |
| 23:50.03 | playya_ | yes. i mean the webos parts |
| 23:51.08 | bpadalino | would a newer kernel really help out any of that ? |
| 23:51.36 | sethron|work | playya_: sorry, i what chatting with ka6sox regarding chroot to the debian img and running stellarium, not from webOS |
| 23:52.24 | playya_ | bpadalino, there's some work to do |
| 23:52.35 | playya_ | e.g. a touchscreen driver |
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| 23:52.51 | bpadalino | yeah, all the human interface stuff |
| 23:53.21 | bpadalino | seems like you should get crackin :) |
| 23:53.45 | *** join/#webos-internals Tibfib (~tibfib94@adsl-68-91-153-80.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) |
| 23:53.55 | playya_ | we have a working tslib plugin |
| 23:56.58 | projectAlarum | Anyone know if you can use text.replace to basically inject an image in place of text? |