| 00:00.18 | halfhalo_pre | oil: tell me how to use raw and I'll tell you what I'm doing |
| 00:00.39 | oil | opens gitweb and looks for an example |
| 00:01.02 | halfhalo_pre | I tried that... borders wifi sucks |
| 00:01.24 | oil | plugin.send_raw()? |
| 00:01.46 | halfhalo_pre | no, I meant from inside theclient |
| 00:02.34 | Kyumobile | rwhitby: did the messages file help at all?or you need more tests? |
| 00:02.36 | oil | http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/wIRC.git;a=blob;f=app/models/server.js;h=435d3eda05ebce1edb2f4fd36759fee2fd8ad00b;hb=HEAD#l318 |
| 00:02.46 | oil | or you mean, like "/raw" or something? |
| 00:02.54 | halfhalo_pre | yeah |
| 00:03.09 | halfhalo_pre | oh god religious nut in borders |
| 00:03.23 | oil | right before line 317's case 'quote': |
| 00:03.26 | oil | put case 'raw': |
| 00:03.28 | oil | whala |
| 00:03.39 | halfhalo_pre | ... |
| 00:04.00 | halfhalo_pre | how does that help me at this moment trying to test something |
| 00:04.20 | oil | thought you were building from source? |
| 00:04.41 | halfhalo_pre | I am. just wanted to test something at borders |
| 00:04.45 | oil | oh |
| 00:05.04 | oil | well, /quote seems to just send_raw |
| 00:05.42 | rwhitby | Kyumobile: no time to look at it yet |
| 00:06.23 | rwhitby | Kyumobile: ipkg file associations not done yet, and it would hang when removing them which cause Preware to fail to update correctly. |
| 00:06.42 | rwhitby | Kyumobile: so we need to work out how to do that safely before incorporating it in a release |
| 00:07.03 | rwhitby | Kyumobile: and add the testing feed to sort out your weird versions |
| 00:07.31 | halfhalo_pre | ok... forgot how to change irssi windows... and religious nut is being more nutty |
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| 00:10.44 | Kyumobile | rwhitby: I see. That file association I had before the doctoring must have been in a few versions back and then removed in later builds. |
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| 00:11.17 | rwhitby | it was in one version for a couple of hours :) |
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| 00:13.07 | Kyumobile | rwhitby: I guess I was one of the lucky ones. Worked ok for regular mojo installs in my experience |
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| 00:14.03 | BeeRad | Ok, who wants me to make the SR71+Pixi video? |
| 00:14.06 | BeeRad | hehe |
| 00:14.27 | jhojho | I dont know why everyone is giving him flak |
| 00:14.37 | jhojho | sr71 + pixi works just fine for me |
| 00:14.44 | jhojho | and it *is* faster than the pre |
| 00:15.06 | halfhalo_pre | oil: adding away support. or attempting to |
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| 00:16.13 | BeeRad | jhojho: lol |
| 00:16.18 | halfhalo_pre | hmm... issue... double info messages... |
| 00:22.34 | oil | thought it already had it? |
| 00:22.39 | halfhalo_pre | I blame oil. |
| 00:22.56 | oil | away support that is |
| 00:23.08 | halfhalo_pre | where? |
| 00:23.25 | oil | in channels appmenu? |
| 00:23.46 | oil | there is /away and /back too i think? |
| 00:24.11 | oil | or just /away, and it does both |
| 00:24.22 | halfhalo_pre | oh, lol, I was going the other way and adding a time as well |
| 00:24.55 | halfhalo_pre | and my bugfix needs a bugfix |
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| 00:26.19 | halfhalo_pre | easy fix tho. |
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| 00:31.50 | halfhalo_pre | srsly... I go to buy a book for my kindle and somone already got it... |
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| 01:34.23 | zsoc | Tman: i blame you |
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| 01:44.43 | cryptk | hola everyone |
| 01:46.19 | Robi_ | yo |
| 01:46.41 | cryptk | my roomate is gettin ready to turn on my computer for me so I can do some work on the ventrilo stuff |
| 01:46.50 | cryptk | I am on a buisness trip but I can SSH into it |
| 01:48.00 | Robi_ | heh, that's dedication |
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| 01:49.06 | cryptk | but I need to get with rwhitby to be able to put some of this stuff into the widk (never done that before) |
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| 01:50.00 | cryptk | I can get libventrilo3 to compile for armv7 which should really open up the possibilities, and I have some C code that will connect to a server, join a channel and broadcast an MP3 |
| 01:50.20 | zsoc | cryptk: what'dja need it in the widk for? |
| 01:51.09 | cryptk | well, I wanted to get libventrilo in there maybe so that other people can work with it |
| 01:51.26 | cryptk | the library is fully featured and allows everything a ventrilo client could ever need |
| 01:51.35 | zsoc | oh ok |
| 01:51.40 | zsoc | i don't think it would take too much |
| 01:51.58 | cryptk | and my C coding is very bad so I was kind of hoping someone would help me out with it |
| 01:52.36 | cryptk | Robi_: dedication is the fact that I have a Mint install on a 16GB compact flash card so that I can boot my work laptop into Linux |
| 01:52.36 | cryptk | lool |
| 01:54.23 | cryptk | and I also have an Ubuntu VM in the Windows install on the laptop so I can use linux even when booted into windows, lol... now that is dedication, two different ways to get to linux |
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| 02:16.27 | Robi_ | cryptk: I was more referring to you marionetting your roomate for the purpose |
| 02:18.27 | cryptk | hahaha |
| 02:21.48 | halfhalo | packing for mah vacay |
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| 02:44.47 | nebula | no, i'm saying we SHOULD get him in here |
| 02:44.57 | zsoc | I'll ban him. |
| 02:45.03 | nebula | lulz |
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| 02:52.25 | halfhalo | who's banning who? |
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| 02:52.42 | nebula | we're gonna ban steve jobs |
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| 02:52.49 | nebula | gotta find his IP first. |
| 02:52.51 | halfhalo | WAYYYY ahead of ya |
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| 02:53.00 | nebula | haha |
| 02:57.37 | nebula | i'm not really sure how to respond to that? |
| 02:57.38 | nebula | wtf |
| 02:58.30 | uNiXpSyChO | super placebo |
| 02:59.03 | jhopixi | h |
| 02:59.17 | nebula | i need a pamtgtfy.com |
| 02:59.20 | halfhalo | Almost fully packed⦠but lappytop is put away for now, which means no more dev stuff |
| 02:59.22 | uNiXpSyChO | lusers HATE lmgtfy ;-) |
| 02:59.26 | nebula | please allow me to google that for you |
| 02:59.41 | nebula | uNiXpSyChO: BOFH's love it |
| 02:59.42 | halfhalo | the do it |
| 02:59.49 | uNiXpSyChO | hehe |
| 02:59.58 | halfhalo | bofhs love anything that lusers like. |
| 03:00.19 | nebula | DELETED |
| 03:00.20 | uNiXpSyChO | lusers are BOFH's entertainment |
| 03:00.24 | halfhalo | yup |
| 03:01.07 | halfhalo | lets seeâ¦. any good videos on zune marketplace? |
| 03:02.55 | halfhalo | wtf zune, wtf |
| 03:03.09 | halfhalo | It wont let me switch the download from sd to hd |
| 03:06.38 | ka6sox-work | zune FAIL |
| 03:07.40 | halfhalo | oh, wait, its downloading in hd |
| 03:07.44 | halfhalo | mah bad |
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| 03:12.13 | halfhalo | GoGo Torrents! |
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| 03:32.24 | halfhalo | I killed it |
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| 03:59.32 | cryptk | anyone ever seen this? I am trying to pair my pre to my laptop but the laptop is only showing the pre's bluetooth MAC is is not pairing... |
| 04:00.18 | cryptk | I can see and pair with other devices though |
| 04:03.42 | jhopixi | it doesn't like u |
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| 04:04.40 | cryptk | I have paired it before... |
| 04:05.48 | cryptk | bbiab |
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| 04:38.51 | cryptk | now this was odd... I was novatermed in... cd to /media/internal and my novaterm dropped out... |
| 04:39.02 | cryptk | then my phone rebooted and is showing the ROM screen... |
| 04:39.18 | cryptk | and I don't have a doc downloaded... and I am on slow hotel wifi... |
| 04:39.50 | Robi_ | ow |
| 04:40.09 | cryptk | I am hoping that a doc fixes it and that it isn't some kind of hardware that just went |
| 04:40.31 | Robi_ | u gonna doc with 1.4.5? |
| 04:40.43 | cryptk | I do have a doctor downloaded actually... on the windows side... but that OS is hardened and won't run the doctor correctly because of it |
| 04:40.57 | Robi_ | mount it and cp the .jar over |
| 04:41.06 | cryptk | PGP encrypted disk |
| 04:41.12 | cryptk | lol |
| 04:41.34 | Robi_ | can't a linux pgp still mount it? |
| 04:41.46 | cryptk | and the only USB storage I have is my phone (can't use that) and the compact flash card reader (which has the linux install on it so I can't put it on there |
| 04:41.55 | cryptk | can't find anything that can |
| 04:42.11 | Robi_ | uh |
| 04:42.23 | Robi_ | knock on doors ask for a usb drive ;] |
| 04:42.41 | cryptk | hehe, wish I knew someone around here with one |
| 04:42.49 | cryptk | I usually bring one with me, but I forgot it on this trip |
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| 04:44.51 | rwhitby | ouch |
| 04:45.19 | sbromwich | enough ram in there to create a scratch ramdisk? |
| 04:45.22 | halfhalo | run to target? |
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| 04:45.46 | rwhitby | cryptk: borrow USB stick from hotel business centre? |
| 04:46.05 | sbromwich | burn a cd? |
| 04:46.19 | rwhitby | write it down on paper? |
| 04:46.59 | cryptk | no blank CD's here... hotel doesn't have one |
| 04:47.07 | sbromwich | get a bunch of hello kitty pres and crank them up to 600ghz and send out smoke signals? |
| 04:47.16 | cryptk | I could write down the source then type it all back in on the linux side... |
| 04:47.17 | cryptk | lol |
| 04:47.35 | cryptk | and slow hotel internet only has 31% downloaded so far |
| 04:47.42 | sbromwich | ouch |
| 04:49.30 | cryptk | woot 35% |
| 04:49.37 | cryptk | 53K, lol |
| 04:50.17 | cryptk | I used to have one on this linux install but I borked it up really bad earlier so I fixed it by just wiping out the casper partition |
| 04:50.27 | cryptk | (it is a persistent USB install) |
| 04:50.36 | cryptk | so I lost everything but the original OS |
| 04:50.49 | cryptk | but it brought the mint install back to stock, and fixed that issue, lol |
| 04:52.59 | cryptk | I wonder if this had anything to do with my bluetooth problems earlier |
| 04:54.28 | ka6sox | brings cryptk a USB stick. |
| 04:54.29 | ka6sox | he may not be in Egypt....but its hot enough and full of rocks and sand enough to be! |
| 04:54.30 | ka6sox | (oh and from the right place you can see the end of the earth) |
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| 04:55.01 | cryptk | I am at the end of the earth, lol |
| 04:55.10 | cryptk | yeah, USB sticks are hard to come by in death valley, lol |
| 04:57.45 | ka6sox | cryptk, from where you are its <60miles to DV |
| 04:57.46 | ka6sox | might take you 40days to get there though! |
| 04:58.01 | halfhalo | where the hell is death valley? |
| 04:58.12 | halfhalo | I should know this but I don't |
| 04:58.20 | cryptk | death valley is in California |
| 04:58.24 | cryptk | it is a desert |
| 04:58.28 | halfhalo | I know |
| 04:58.33 | halfhalo | I live in California |
| 05:00.24 | cryptk | southwestern california? |
| 05:00.43 | ka6sox | halfhalo, head like you are going to Vega$ and turn left before you get there. |
| 05:01.21 | cryptk | yep |
| 05:01.29 | cryptk | I am not actually in DV, but close |
| 05:01.43 | cryptk | woohoo, I am over 60K/s now |
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| 05:07.28 | halfhalo | descriptive |
| 05:07.35 | halfhalo | my logitech stuff needs to be here now |
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| 05:14.51 | cryptk | 75% done downloading |
| 05:15.00 | cryptk | I have never done a doctor in linux before... lol |
| 05:15.07 | halfhalo | at 85% i bet it dies |
| 05:15.08 | cryptk | wait... yeah I have... meta-doc, lol |
| 05:15.13 | cryptk | don't say that |
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| 05:15.27 | cryptk | I shoulda wget'd the file... then I could resume it... |
| 05:21.07 | cryptk | 85 |
| 05:24.13 | halfhalo | Andâ¦. CRASH |
| 05:24.55 | cryptk | nope |
| 05:24.57 | cryptk | 92% |
| 05:26.48 | ka6sox | 99.9%....crash |
| 05:26.57 | halfhalo | we can only hope |
| 05:27.03 | halfhalo | I meanâ¦.. hope it doesnt |
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| 05:27.14 | cryptk | buncha jerkholes... |
| 05:27.25 | halfhalo | You rang? |
| 05:27.32 | oil | hah |
| 05:30.02 | ka6sox | okay now to crank up my Pixi to 600THz. |
| 05:30.15 | cryptk | woot! |
| 05:30.15 | halfhalo | THz, eh? |
| 05:30.35 | ka6sox | its "glowing" |
| 05:30.44 | halfhalo | and melting! |
| 05:32.55 | ka6sox | halfhalo, what island are you going to? |
| 05:32.58 | oil | and on fire? |
| 05:33.02 | halfhalo | Kauai |
| 05:33.18 | ka6sox | Fire! |
| 05:33.37 | halfhalo | grabs a lighter and some gas |
| 05:34.09 | cryptk | the doctor isn't picking up that the phone is connected to the laptop... |
| 05:34.20 | halfhalo | restart both? |
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| 05:46.42 | cryptk | so... the doctor won't detect the phone in linux and in windows it stops at 12% |
| 05:46.58 | cryptk | but it is a hardened OS so I don't know if it is because of that or because of the phone |
| 05:47.00 | halfhalo | Even with the usb up boot mode thingie? |
| 05:48.08 | cryptk | yeah |
| 05:48.22 | cryptk | I have no clue why the doc doesn't detect it in linux |
| 05:48.25 | cryptk | it shows up in lsusb |
| 05:48.42 | cryptk | and I can novaterm into it |
| 05:48.58 | halfhalo | Is this a vm? |
| 05:49.31 | cryptk | no |
| 05:49.44 | cryptk | it is a copy of Mint booting off a compact flash card |
| 05:50.06 | halfhalo | hmmm |
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| 05:52.52 | cryptk | I am doing it on a different system |
| 05:52.59 | cryptk | this one is windows XP and I have admin rights on it |
| 06:01.35 | cryptk | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.42 | cryptk | lets see if it makes it past 12% |
| 06:01.54 | rwhitby | cryptk: are you able to memboot the uImage from the doctor/ |
| 06:01.56 | rwhitby | ? |
| 06:01.57 | cryptk | it is talking to the phone though.... the screen does change to the flashing logo |
| 06:02.03 | cryptk | I will try that next |
| 06:02.15 | rwhitby | cryptk: are you watching the host log from the doctor where it tells you where it's up to? |
| 06:02.25 | cryptk | rwhitby: where does it log that to? |
| 06:02.35 | rwhitby | on mac, it's to /var/log/system.log |
| 06:02.41 | rwhitby | dunno about linux or windows |
| 06:02.46 | rwhitby | whereever java would log to |
| 06:03.03 | cryptk | 14% now |
| 06:03.08 | cryptk | looks like it may work on this system |
| 06:03.14 | cryptk | wonder if my tokens will be intact... |
| 06:03.56 | cryptk | so far so good |
| 06:05.02 | cryptk | 32% |
| 06:05.21 | cryptk | I wonder if my linux install wasn't detecting the phone due to a lack of novacom |
| 06:05.32 | cryptk | does the doc install novacom on linux? I know it does on windows |
| 06:06.17 | halfhalo | it should... |
| 06:09.43 | cryptk | stalling at 64% that is modem firmware |
| 06:10.01 | halfhalo | Give it a few |
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| 06:10.22 | Robi_ | is the phone in dev mode? ;] |
| 06:11.41 | cryptk | it is being doctored, lol |
| 06:11.53 | cryptk | there is no dev mode during doctor |
| 06:11.58 | cryptk | there we go |
| 06:11.59 | cryptk | 72% |
| 06:12.11 | cryptk | that's carrier apps |
| 06:12.24 | rwhitby | cryptk: you can novaterm into a phone during doctor. |
| 06:12.35 | cryptk | yep |
| 06:12.45 | cryptk | but no need |
| 06:12.48 | cryptk | the doc is going fine |
| 06:13.08 | cryptk | just the laptop I am doc'ing it with is a slow panasonic toughbook so it is taking forever |
| 06:13.11 | halfhalo | oh god |
| 06:13.14 | cryptk | 82% that's verification |
| 06:13.14 | halfhalo | made a new voicemail |
| 06:13.23 | halfhalo | oldspicevoicemail.com |
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| 06:15.50 | cryptk | phone rebooting, looks like it isn't dead after all |
| 06:15.55 | halfhalo | nice |
| 06:15.59 | cryptk | rebooting the lappy back into linux, brb |
| 06:16.02 | halfhalo | make your old spice voicmail |
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| 06:18.30 | swisstomcat | morning |
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| 06:19.54 | cryptk | restoring backed up data... |
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| 06:34.36 | cryptk | now I get to wait forever while all my apps are restored |
| 06:34.43 | halfhalo | yup |
| 06:50.19 | cryptk | rwhitby: is there any way to temporarially stop the re-downloading of all of my apps so that I can install uberkernel? |
| 06:50.34 | rwhitby | cryptk: appcat? |
| 06:50.45 | halfhalo | go into the app cat and click pause |
| 06:50.45 | rwhitby | there's a pause all installs option in the menu |
| 06:51.00 | cryptk | cool |
| 06:51.10 | cryptk | I figure it should go faster with an overclock |
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| 06:51.43 | rwhitby | it's mainly limited by download speed and flash speed |
| 06:52.26 | cryptk | ahh |
| 06:52.46 | cryptk | well, my load average was at 6.8, lol |
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| 06:55.27 | halfhalo | oh god the noise! |
| 06:56.23 | halfhalo | my computer re-enabled the "what you hear" mic |
| 06:56.30 | swisstomcat | heh |
| 06:56.52 | halfhalo | And its set to route sound through the main speakers.... |
| 06:56.54 | halfhalo | infinite loop |
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| 06:57.56 | halfhalo | But I need mah oldspice ringtone! |
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| 06:58.29 | AmberJ_ | Hey. So I am confused as to how to get preware on my phone. |
| 06:58.48 | rwhitby | AmberJ_: http://install.preware.org/ |
| 06:59.30 | AmberJ_ | wow, that's way easier. thank you. :] |
| 07:03.21 | cryptk | of course it still won't pair with my laptop... |
| 07:08.15 | cryptk | rwhitby: are the cheater ways to add in the testing feeds documented anywhere? |
| 07:08.58 | rwhitby | cryptk: yes |
| 07:09.37 | rwhitby | before you install preware, touch /var/preferences/org.webosinternals.preware/enable-testing-feeds |
| 07:11.53 | bhuey | folks |
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| 07:12.12 | bhuey | overclock kernels drain my battery like crazy but I love it :) |
| 07:12.16 | cryptk | rwhitby: thanks |
| 07:12.31 | AmberJ__ | I can not understand how to open webos quick install.anyone know how? |
| 07:12.46 | cryptk | you download it and then double click it |
| 07:12.51 | cryptk | you need to have java installed |
| 07:12.52 | AmberJ__ | I downloaded it and everytime I try to open it it keeps on going back and fourth between different screens. |
| 07:13.00 | AmberJ__ | I just installed java. |
| 07:13.35 | AmberJ__ | and restarted the browser or whatever. |
| 07:14.55 | cryptk | when you double click on quick install what exactly happens? |
| 07:15.11 | cryptk | ls |
| 07:16.10 | AmberJ__ | It goes back to a page that has different like.. folders that say "ca" "com" "meta-inf" "net" and "org". |
| 07:16.43 | AmberJ__ | and then I click the one that says ".." to get to the quick install,and click it again, and it goes back to that page again. |
| 07:17.26 | cryptk | right click on the quick install jar |
| 07:17.32 | cryptk | is there an option to run it with java? |
| 07:17.44 | AmberJ__ | I'm sorry I'm so computer illiterate. My boyfriend was supposed to help me do this but he fell asleep. haha. |
| 07:17.49 | AmberJ__ | hold on, let me see. |
| 07:17.51 | cryptk | haha |
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| 07:18.25 | rwhitby | a boyfriend that fails to complete Preware installation. I'd look for another ... |
| 07:18.26 | AmberJ__ | No, there's nothing about running it.. |
| 07:18.30 | AmberJ__ | hahaha. |
| 07:18.35 | cryptk | you don't have java installed |
| 07:18.46 | cryptk | are you on windows? |
| 07:18.56 | AmberJ__ | He did it last time for me but, I had to get a new phone and he's been putting it off. Yes, I am on windows. |
| 07:19.13 | AmberJ__ | I downloaded java but then it said it may not have downloaded right so I'm doing it again... |
| 07:19.15 | AmberJ__ | fml |
| 07:19.23 | halfhalo | oh god this is winâ¦â¦. |
| 07:19.43 | cryptk | http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=40946 |
| 07:19.49 | cryptk | download that and install it |
| 07:19.57 | cryptk | that is the java runtime environment |
| 07:19.59 | halfhalo | oldspicevoicemail is win |
| 07:20.05 | cryptk | after you install that you can run quick install |
| 07:20.56 | AmberJ__ | Okay, cool. Well. I'll let you know. haha. Thank you for everything. |
| 07:21.01 | cryptk | np |
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| 07:25.58 | AmberJ_ | Cryptk, can you send me that link again. My internet force closed. Tonight is just not my night. |
| 07:26.25 | rwhitby | http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=40946 |
| 07:26.37 | AmberJ_ | thaaanks. :] |
| 07:26.55 | cryptk | I had beat ya to that one rwhitby, lol |
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| 07:30.35 | AmberJ_ | Okay so what do I do if that download keeps failing... |
| 07:30.45 | AmberJ_ | i'm so sorry. This is such a pain in the ass. |
| 07:31.37 | rwhitby | AmberJ_: another option: http://get.preware.org/PrewareInstaller-1.1.0.exe |
| 07:33.04 | AmberJ_ | Okay, this looks better. How do I now get "novacom" cause it says i cant do that till novacom is running or something. |
| 07:37.21 | cryptk | I just got a weird message... my phone told me I had to restart because I was no longer signed into my palm profile |
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| 07:41.58 | swisstomcat | cryptk: uh, oh |
| 07:42.32 | rwhitby | cryptk: lots of people have been getting that |
| 07:42.47 | rwhitby | long thread and article on precentral |
| 07:43.02 | cryptk | first time for me... I hadn't even heard of it yet, but I have been disconnected the past few days |
| 07:43.17 | rwhitby | of course people blamed preware first, then realised that people who had never used homebrew were getting it too |
| 07:45.15 | rwhitby | bbl |
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| 07:46.24 | cryptk | great, so I just doctored... got half through getting my device set back up and now I get to start over, lol |
| 07:52.02 | Ki11er | ouch. why did you have to doctor it? |
| 07:52.21 | cryptk | it died randomly and gave me the ROM screen |
| 07:52.29 | cryptk | I was poking around in it at the time |
| 07:52.55 | cryptk | and now after the profile disconnect preware doesn't list the kernel I had installed and the ERU isn't fixing it |
| 07:53.57 | Ki11er | isn't there only 4 kernals or so? |
| 07:54.15 | cryptk | testing kernel feeds |
| 07:54.17 | cryptk | there are many |
| 07:54.55 | Ki11er | how do you get that feed? and can't those brick the phone? |
| 07:55.27 | sbromwich | they can't brick but they can burn out your phone |
| 07:55.32 | cryptk | yep |
| 07:55.49 | cryptk | you can burn up parts but it is pretty much impossible to "brick" a palm pre |
| 07:55.54 | Ki11er | what do you mean by burn it out? |
| 07:56.00 | sbromwich | h |
| 07:56.10 | sbromwich | eat applied to the circuit board makes it melty |
| 07:56.22 | sbromwich | overclocking makes more heat |
| 07:56.35 | Ki11er | I thought "bricking" meant destroying. |
| 07:56.37 | cryptk | running the parts faster than designed causes extra heat |
| 07:56.39 | sbromwich | melty circuit board makes the pre go byebye |
| 07:56.51 | sbromwich | bricking means putting a device into a state where it can't boot |
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| 07:57.00 | sbromwich | so the physical hardware is fine, you just can't do anything with it |
| 07:57.06 | Ki11er | I overclock mine to 800 |
| 07:57.13 | sbromwich | jolly good |
| 07:57.49 | cryptk | mine runs at 1005 |
| 07:57.51 | sbromwich | try not to leave it sat in the sunlight |
| 07:58.11 | Ki11er | can you still use a pre if you don't have a carrier? |
| 07:58.26 | sbromwich | yes |
| 07:58.59 | Ki11er | cryptk, did you peel off the tape on the heatsync? |
| 07:59.06 | cryptk | no |
| 07:59.14 | Ki11er | I did. |
| 07:59.19 | cryptk | why? |
| 08:00.03 | Ki11er | because it didn't make since. why would there be tape on it in the first place?? |
| 08:00.28 | sbromwich | to stop the back of the phone scraping on the cpu die |
| 08:00.39 | sbromwich | causing short circuits, phone damage, etc |
| 08:00.40 | Ki11er | are you using the F105 kernal? |
| 08:00.47 | sbromwich | me? |
| 08:00.54 | cryptk | no, I use warthog |
| 08:01.24 | sbromwich | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:SBromwichKernel is what I usually use |
| 08:01.31 | cryptk | hehe |
| 08:02.57 | Ki11er | oh, what is "phone radio"? |
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| 08:03.15 | cryptk | that would be the radio that your phone uses |
| 08:03.20 | cryptk | to make phone calls |
| 08:03.26 | cryptk | wirelessly |
| 08:03.30 | cryptk | like a radio |
| 08:03.34 | cryptk | lol |
| 08:03.37 | swisstomcat | heh |
| 08:03.47 | swisstomcat | tell me how i can use my radio to make phonecalls then |
| 08:04.02 | Ki11er | so a toggle for that would just be airplane mode? |
| 08:04.19 | cryptk | airplane mode does turn that off yes |
| 08:04.22 | cryptk | and bluetooth |
| 08:04.23 | swisstomcat | airplane mode turns off all wireless stuff |
| 08:04.24 | cryptk | and wifi |
| 08:04.41 | Ki11er | it doesn't turn off wifi |
| 08:05.38 | cryptk | mine does |
| 08:05.48 | cryptk | you can go back and turn it back on after you put airplane mode on though |
| 08:05.55 | Ki11er | mine doesn't. I tried it yesterday. |
| 08:05.55 | cryptk | airplane mode turns off all of the radios |
| 08:07.00 | Ki11er | well. I want a patch to toggle the internet usage on and off. but still be able to get txts and calls. |
| 08:07.04 | sbromwich | you can explicitly re-enable wifi in airplane mode, but you have to go pressing buttons |
| 08:07.33 | Ki11er | basically jut disable 3G and 1X |
| 08:07.34 | cryptk | Ki11er: there are patches that do that already |
| 08:07.38 | swisstomcat | yeah |
| 08:07.44 | cryptk | look at the top menu patches |
| 08:07.47 | swisstomcat | 3G,2G,none |
| 08:07.53 | cryptk | they edit the top right system menu |
| 08:09.04 | Ki11er | that's where I found the phone radio patch...thats why I was asking. |
| 08:11.21 | Ki11er | I'm looking at the screenshot of the patch and there's a button that says "turn off phone". do you know what that means? |
| 08:11.48 | cryptk | it turns off the phone radio would be my guess |
| 08:12.18 | Ki11er | I'll try it. |
| 08:12.49 | Ki11er | it's installing. I'll let you know what it does. |
| 08:14.05 | palsch | Phone/phone radio = calls/texts, data usage = internet access. |
| 08:14.58 | Ki11er | why would there even be a patch for it then when you could just put it in airplane mode? |
| 08:15.23 | Ki11er | sorry, ignore that |
| 08:17.05 | palsch | If you just want the data usage there is a 'Data in Device Menu' patch |
| 08:17.27 | palsch | Or just get the megamix patch that puts controls for almost everything in there... |
| 08:17.37 | Ki11er | soooo...to do what I want to do I just turn off data in the dialer menu? would I still be able to access internet through wifi? |
| 08:17.58 | palsch | Yes |
| 08:18.37 | palsch | You need a data usage toggle |
| 08:19.14 | Ki11er | there's a toggle built into the dialer preference menu |
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| 08:23.34 | Ki11er | palsch, there's a toggle built into the dialer prefference menu. I'm getting a device menu megamix like you suggested because it'll be much faster to access. |
| 08:24.23 | palsch | They all do the same thing, so same as before |
| 08:51.53 | datafirm | @seen |
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| 08:59.53 | bal00 | hi all |
| 09:00.49 | bal00 | I'm trying to install a package with preware and it fails, but the ipkg log doesn't tell me much |
| 09:01.03 | bal00 | it is any way to make it more verbose |
| 09:01.11 | bal00 | even to enable debuging? |
| 09:02.07 | swisstomcat | hi |
| 09:02.14 | rwhitby | bal00: what is it saying? |
| 09:02.28 | rwhitby | bal00: email it to yourself and then paste it on webos.pastebin.com |
| 09:02.39 | bal00 | ok, just a sec |
| 09:07.33 | bal00 | ok, I just pasted it there, how do I get a link for you to see it?? |
| 09:08.36 | bal00 | http://webos.pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SUZPJagL |
| 09:08.47 | bal00 | I guess that is it |
| 09:18.05 | bal00 | rwhitby: how can I make preware to give me more info about the error?? |
| 09:19.49 | rwhitby | bal00: most likely is you don't have the webos-internals feeds enabled |
| 09:20.09 | rwhitby | oil: ^^ need that error on missing dependencies :) |
| 09:20.18 | oil | yeah |
| 09:20.25 | oil | maybe ill stop adding new features and fix bugs xD |
| 09:20.29 | bal00 | it is a package I installed from the phone using the new install package feature |
| 09:20.32 | rwhitby | nah |
| 09:20.52 | rwhitby | when you're on a creative roll don't mess with it |
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| 09:35.21 | bal00 | any ideas? can I install the package from the command line? |
| 09:35.39 | bal00 | does preware use the same ipkg found at the command line? |
| 09:36.01 | rwhitby | bal00: you need to install any dependencies for that package first |
| 09:36.26 | rwhitby | bal00: install some other patch from preware first should do it |
| 09:36.26 | bal00 | they are installed from preware? it is enough? |
| 09:36.41 | rwhitby | yes |
| 09:37.05 | bal00 | but when I do an ipkg list I cannot find patch installed |
| 09:37.21 | bal00 | which looking in preware it says it is installed |
| 09:37.24 | rwhitby | where did you get the ipkg from, and what does it list as the dependencies? |
| 09:37.50 | bal00 | I'm talking about the ipkg from the system |
| 09:38.01 | rwhitby | I would not advise playing with ipkg on the command line unless you know what you are doing |
| 09:38.29 | rwhitby | what's your experience level with Linux? |
| 09:40.01 | bal00 | I'm a debian developer |
| 09:40.29 | rwhitby | ok. to use ipkg to access user-installable apps, you need the -o /media/cryptofs/apps switch |
| 09:40.50 | rwhitby | otherwise you're talking to ipkg for the rootfs, not the installable applications (two different app install areas and package databases) |
| 09:40.53 | bal00 | ok, I didn't read enough then, thanks |
| 09:41.31 | rwhitby | bal00: the single package install function does not check dependencies (it doesn't look inside the ipkg file, just at the index file in the feeds) |
| 09:41.52 | rwhitby | bal00: and the palm wrapper around ipkg that we are using does not report missing dependencies well |
| 09:42.52 | bal00 | yes, I supposed ipkg was just dpkg and preware was doing the apt-get part |
| 09:43.42 | rwhitby | palm have a wrapper around ipkg which we must call so the launcher icons get updated. |
| 09:43.57 | rwhitby | but that suppresses useful error messages from ipkg |
| 09:44.36 | bal00 | ok, I'll try from command line to see if I get a more usefull error |
| 09:45.13 | bal00 | I'm installing the messaging pacthes, which I have not been able to make work in any version |
| 09:48.17 | rwhitby | bal00: I expect they don't work at the moment |
| 09:51.18 | bal00 | no, they have a wrong dpendency |
| 09:51.28 | bal00 | it is depending on org.webosinternals.messagingpatchsysfiles |
| 09:51.43 | bal00 | and the real package it is org.webosinternals.messagingsysfiles_2.0.3_armv7.ipk |
| 09:59.51 | bal00 | ok, fixing the control file from the packages makes it instalable, now there are paching problems |
| 10:02.39 | bal00 | I guess I have to remove some patches first |
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| 10:02.42 | rwhitby | bbl |
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| 10:17.24 | DThought | anyone got the webos doctor link for o2 germany handy? |
| 10:21.30 | hucksy | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#O2_Germany.2C_UK_and_Ireland_.2F_Movistar_Spain |
| 10:22.32 | DThought | Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. |
| 10:22.49 | DThought | wiki is offline for me ;) should have said that initially |
| 10:23.09 | hucksy | what do you need? pre oder pre+ |
| 10:23.21 | hucksy | *or |
| 10:23.28 | DThought | pre |
| 10:23.43 | hucksy | http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pre/p145r0d06302010/eudep145rod/webosdoctorp100ueu-wr.jar |
| 10:24.45 | DThought | thank you |
| 10:24.46 | DThought | :) |
| 10:24.57 | hucksy | np |
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| 17:37.57 | RagingMind | there is something very weird going on with my phone |
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| 17:38.46 | RagingMind | it's getting location fixes way too fast and now I'm getting them inside my apartment building |
| 17:40.22 | RagingMind | I have a verizon pre and never installed any gps hacks |
| 17:40.40 | RagingMind | so I should *only* be getting tru gps, and I know I'm not anymore |
| 17:43.13 | RagingMind | who did the packaging for navit? |
| 17:48.54 | swisstomcat | hape,noradtux? |
| 17:50.26 | RagingMind | I don't use wifi positioning either and this started after I installed navit |
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| 17:53.53 | projectAlarum | Quick question, what type of filesystem format does the pre/pixi use? |
| 17:58.03 | noradtux | swisstomcat: hi |
| 17:58.12 | swisstomcat | hi noradtux |
| 17:58.21 | noradtux | projectAlarum: ext3 for the system, vfat for the "usb-drive" |
| 17:59.09 | projectAlarum | noradtux: Thank you. |
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| 18:01.16 | oilsworkn | was going to say that but wasn't sure and didn't want to give bad info :/ |
| 18:01.50 | noradtux | RagingMind: we don't do anything special inside navit, it just uses the official API for positioning |
| 18:02.06 | RagingMind | k... |
| 18:03.05 | RagingMind | well I either inadvertently installed something that included a patch or verizion suddenly and secretly decided to allow more than just GPS |
| 18:03.32 | noradtux | or your gps-chip doesn't shut down anymore ;) |
| 18:03.58 | RagingMind | I'm inside a very thick building |
| 18:04.19 | RagingMind | and ##GPS# gets a fix almost instantly |
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| 18:07.03 | RagingMind | and when I first get a fix the accuracy is poo and takes a while to get decent (a few minutes... like I used to have to wait to get a fix at all) |
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| 18:09.26 | noradtux | hmm, sounds like usual for me. but otoh I am on O2 in Germany, I don't think they cripple aGPS ;) |
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| 18:10.40 | RagingMind | this is very unusual. I'm used to it acting like a stand alone GPS |
| 18:11.02 | RagingMind | mostly I'm worried that some package I installed included something "extra" |
| 18:11.50 | RagingMind | because I haven't heard anything about verizon secretly updating phones |
| 18:14.23 | en0x | verizon is a crap :P they block agps :P |
| 18:16.46 | RagingMind | en0x, that's the problem... my phone suddenly started behaving like it has more than just pure gps |
| 18:16.51 | RagingMind | and I wanna know why |
| 18:17.13 | RagingMind | I don't like unexplained things happening to my phone |
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| 18:19.38 | en0x | call verizon :D |
| 18:22.50 | RagingMind | I'm thinking of saving/backing up everything then doctoring my phone |
| 18:23.23 | noradtux | RagingMind: does this effect even survive rebooting? |
| 18:24.40 | RagingMind | I've rebooted a few times, trying again now that I'm inside |
| 18:25.31 | swisstomcat | fast gps is usually when you're on wifi |
| 18:25.45 | swisstomcat | takes like 1 second here, inside the building |
| 18:26.38 | appamaway | is away: Gone away for now |
| 18:26.58 | noradtux | for the record, I just compared the kewrnelsource of 1.4.1 with 1.4.5, no difference |
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| 18:28.28 | RagingMind | swisstomcat, I keep wifi positioning disabled and my wifi off most of the time |
| 18:28.47 | swisstomcat | hmm |
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| 18:29.19 | RagingMind | I despise google so I refuse to accept the terms for their positioning service |
| 18:31.20 | Timo__ | Hi all. |
| 18:31.39 | Timo__ | Where can I download scratchbox2 |
| 18:31.59 | Timo__ | Or is there even a repository for Ubuntu 10.04? |
| 18:32.18 | swisstomcat | did you check the webos-internals wiki? |
| 18:32.35 | swisstomcat | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK |
| 18:32.38 | Timo__ | Yes, it seems that the link who's listed on the wiki page is outdated. |
| 18:33.28 | Timo__ | Go to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/sbox2 |
| 18:33.46 | Timo__ | and you can read there "ABANDONED PROJECT..." |
| 18:34.16 | swisstomcat | but the instructions don't tell you to download sb2 from there, do they? |
| 18:34.57 | noradtux | RagingMind: good to see that I am not the only person on this planet that thinks like that :D |
| 18:35.26 | swisstomcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.33 | swisstomcat | :) |
| 18:35.42 | Timo__ | Ah, thanks. |
| 18:35.46 | Timo__ | Got it! :-) |
| 18:36.29 | noradtux | bows before the great APT |
| 18:36.37 | swisstomcat | with super-cow powers |
| 18:39.01 | RagingMind | okay... after rebooting it's taking a bit longer to get a fix, but it still got one in a place that I know isn't getting any satellite signals |
| 18:47.38 | RagingMind | wifi off... got a fix still (in my kitchen) now trying in airplane mode |
| 18:52.18 | appamajig | is back. |
| 18:56.31 | noradtux | phantom gps signals ;) |
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| 18:59.00 | RagingMind | no position while in airplane mode, now trying again with just cell on |
| 18:59.43 | RagingMind | and there is is... my phone found itself |
| 19:01.37 | swisstomcat | in airplane mode? |
| 19:01.46 | Turan | is there any word on 1.4.5 on sprint? |
| 19:01.54 | Turan | and when it might be coming? |
| 19:02.03 | swisstomcat | haven't heard anything |
| 19:02.19 | Turan | that makes me a sad panda |
| 19:02.40 | Txt_file | I have webOS 1.4.5 already installed |
| 19:02.43 | RagingMind | Turan, someone in #webos said the doctor was out, but that's the most I've heard |
| 19:02.44 | swisstomcat | me too |
| 19:02.52 | swisstomcat | on 1.4.5 for a while |
| 19:02.55 | Turan | cool |
| 19:03.32 | RagingMind | swisstomcat, after I turned airplane mode off (cell back on) |
| 19:04.33 | RagingMind | and my understanding of agps is that it still needs gps to actually work, it just works faster. so my current assumption is that my phone is using just cell towers |
| 19:05.19 | swisstomcat | agps uses the the data connection to get a faster fix |
| 19:05.40 | RagingMind | which is what I had actually thought about enabling using qpst, but I never got around to it. so unless I'm phone hacking in my sleep, someone else updated something on my phone |
| 19:09.31 | Marajin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.27 | Mousey | woah |
| 19:10.31 | Mousey | checks his Pre for marbles |
| 19:10.43 | Marajin | hah |
| 19:10.55 | Marajin | nah today it's decided that it'll connect calls but there's 0 output on the earpiece |
| 19:11.09 | en0x | so who got link for 1.4.5 doctor for sprint? |
| 19:11.10 | en0x | :> |
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| 19:13.02 | noradtux | Marajin: maybe the switch in the headphone-connector is stuck |
| 19:19.08 | Marajin | noradtux: perhaps, haven't had time to fiddle with it. Didn't notice any signs of it thinking the headset is connected but then again the call woke me up so.. |
| 19:19.11 | Marajin | shrugs. |
| 19:19.21 | Marajin | I just ended up phoning 'em back from my X10 |
| 19:23.28 | appamaway | is away: Gone away for now |
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| 19:34.10 | hape | Marajin: When the headphone switch is hanging you get the headphone icon in the lower right corner of the phone scene. |
| 19:35.06 | hape | Marajin: Also the screen do no turn off if you hold the phone lice you would have it at your ear while a call is active. |
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| 19:53.22 | Txt_file | why has the wiki no information about the update to 1.4.5, 1.4.1 or 1.4.0?? |
| 19:54.38 | appamajig | is back. |
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| 20:05.21 | datafirm | hello |
| 20:05.26 | datafirm | which is the bot? |
| 20:11.27 | swisstomcat | well |
| 20:11.34 | swisstomcat | infobot? |
| 20:12.40 | mikewx | I am spart^H^H^H^H^Hinfobot! |
| 20:13.39 | appamaway | is away: Gone away for now |
| 20:16.03 | Marajin | hape: yeah I'm pretty sure it wasn't showing the icon.. my pre is going slowly crazy. It argues with me about turning its screen off sometimes |
| 20:16.14 | Marajin | I press the button, it blinks off and then blinks on again and such |
| 20:16.24 | Marajin | sometimes it refuses to come on, yadda yadda.. |
| 20:16.30 | Marajin | I'll doctor it at some point and see what happens |
| 20:26.49 | appamajig | is back. |
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| 20:34.22 | datafirm | infobot is gone? |
| 20:35.44 | Tibfib | ~botsnack |
| 20:35.44 | infobot | Tibfib: aw, gee |
| 20:36.59 | appamaway | is away: Gone away for now |
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| 20:42.09 | appamajig | is back. |
| 20:43.13 | ka6sox | calling on Git experts.... |
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| 20:53.09 | swisstomcat | is a git n00b |
| 20:53.16 | swisstomcat | with that it's goodnight time |
| 20:53.20 | ka6sox | nn |
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| 21:04.33 | Robi_ | ooh http://www.meritline.com/7-touch-screen-tft-lcd-google-android-17-tablet-pc-w-wificamera---p-48555.aspx |
| 21:04.47 | Robi_ | think we can boot webOS on this? |
| 21:05.18 | Robi_ | Processor: VIA WM8505 ARM926 |
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| 21:06.13 | ka6sox | arm926 is a strange beast. |
| 21:06.39 | Robi_ | oh? |
| 21:07.16 | hape | We will be on vacation for the next 2 weeks. See you again on the 8th of August. |
| 21:07.23 | ka6sox | enjoy hape |
| 21:07.52 | hape | ka6sox: Thanks, will do my best ;) |
| 21:07.53 | hape | We will be on vacation for the next 2 weeks. See you again on the 8th of August. |
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| 21:13.36 | cryptk | hola |
| 21:13.57 | ka6sox | live or memorex? |
| 21:14.27 | ka6sox | morning cryptk |
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| 21:30.08 | Robi_ | ka6sox: can you expand on the arm926? |
| 21:33.42 | ka6sox | bbiab...work calls |
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| 21:46.23 | appamaway | is away: Gone away for now |
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| 21:50.01 | ka6sox-work | Robi_, to say the least the ARM 926SoC market has a lot of totally 1/2 baked approaches... |
| 21:50.12 | ka6sox-work | a LOT of them use 16bit Memory busses. |
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| 22:15.58 | Robi_ | ka6sox-work: ew, sounds like theres a need for a reviews site that keeps tabs on the better ones |
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| 22:24.10 | Robi_ | ka6sox-work: with 256MB DDR2, it's hard to believe it'd be tied to a 16bit bus |
| 22:24.59 | ka6sox-work | Robi_, ours had 512MB but still was a 16bit Bus. |
| 22:31.30 | halfhalo | Ok, now THIS is a zune wtf |
| 22:32.24 | halfhalo | Its like triple converting stuff |
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| 22:45.42 | rwhitby | morning |
| 22:46.08 | halfhalo | morning |
| 22:46.45 | cdm | g'day |
| 22:47.01 | cryptk | morning rwhitby |
| 22:47.21 | cryptk | hey rwhitby I am working on getting libventrilo ready again... would that be something that would go into the WIDK or no? |
| 22:47.36 | cryptk | it is a fully featured library for communication with a ventrilo server |
| 22:47.47 | cryptk | has everything that a vent client could ever need |
| 22:51.50 | rwhitby | cryptk: yes |
| 22:52.45 | cryptk | so once I get it to compile correctly how do I go about getting it in there |
| 22:53.24 | cryptk | I am having to rebuild by scratchbox atm though so it will be a bit |
| 22:54.34 | cryptk | luckily I am doing it over SSH on my home computer so I can use the good internet, not the crappy internet at the hotel here |
| 22:55.29 | rwhitby | cryptk: create a new directory in packages/nonworking/.... |
| 22:55.57 | RagingMind | this is slightly strange. my phone says that it's up to date and them lists information about an update |
| 22:56.11 | RagingMind | s/them/then |
| 22:56.14 | cryptk | and then push it from there? |
| 22:57.12 | cryptk | it will probably be at least a couple hours before it is ready |
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| 23:02.49 | chrisa | I didn't even know libventrilo existed for linux desktop purposes |
| 23:03.53 | cryptk | libventrilo only exists for linux |
| 23:04.05 | chrisa | ... |
| 23:04.10 | cryptk | it was made by the same guys who made mangler, a native linux vent client |
| 23:04.22 | chrisa | So they reverse engineered the proto? |
| 23:04.24 | cryptk | libventrilo3 |
| 23:04.31 | rwhitby | cryptk: yeah, push it in nonworking until someone else confirms the build |
| 23:04.35 | cryptk | not sure what exactly they did |
| 23:04.42 | cryptk | but I know it works |
| 23:04.54 | appamajig | is back. |
| 23:05.08 | cryptk | I have already compiled it in the past for ARMv7 and some proof of concept code to make a connection to a server from the pre |
| 23:05.15 | cryptk | as well as stream MP3's to the server |
| 23:06.59 | cryptk | I am really glad I set up the SSH server on my home comp before I left for this trip, lol |
| 23:08.04 | halfhalo | I love how my phone jumps from 18% to 0 % in like 5 minutes.... |
| 23:08.09 | Anivrom | wIRC? |
| 23:08.29 | halfhalo | Nope. Its the batt's calibration methinks |
| 23:08.41 | Anivrom | I find what wIRC rapes my battery like a trip to neverland. |
| 23:08.44 | Anivrom | oh |
| 23:09.03 | halfhalo | andâ¦. dead phone |
| 23:09.11 | Anivrom | btw I can't installt he fstab fix, throws me a mount error |
| 23:10.00 | halfhalo | Hmm, where is my other battery anywho.. |
| 23:13.06 | rwhitby | Anivrom: reboot first |
| 23:13.17 | Anivrom | I've done alot of rebooting |
| 23:13.19 | Anivrom | Same issue |
| 23:13.33 | rwhitby | have you rebooted, then done nothing else, then tried to install it? |
| 23:13.58 | Anivrom | negative |
| 23:13.58 | rwhitby | cause if you can identify what it is that is causing the mount problem that would be good |
| 23:14.15 | Anivrom | I can tell you what the error is |
| 23:14.22 | rwhitby | I know the error |
| 23:14.36 | rwhitby | we cannot reproduce it immediately after a reboot, and do not know what cuases it. |
| 23:14.55 | Anivrom | device or luna |
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| 23:16.10 | RagingMind | if I have wirc open over night while my phone is plugged in to charge it's still not charged by morning |
| 23:16.35 | chrisa | Is it plugged into your pc? |
| 23:16.47 | RagingMind | nope. the palm charger |
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| 23:17.35 | chrisa | Is it charged more or less than when you went to sleep? |
| 23:17.44 | sh03y | anybody here use navit and fancy doing some alpha testing? |
| 23:18.14 | RagingMind | chrisa, that one I'm not sure about, I haven't let the situation happen in a couple weeks |
| 23:18.56 | rwhitby | Anivrom: full device reboot |
| 23:19.09 | RagingMind | but if I make sure I don't have wirc connected to anything then it'll charge like normal. a couple hours or so |
| 23:19.25 | rwhitby | builds 1.4.5 kernels from recently-released Palm patches |
| 23:19.56 | cryptk | is there a way to query the power flow on a USB port? |
| 23:20.21 | cryptk | not how much power the USB device has negotiated for, but how much is actually flowing |
| 23:20.36 | cryptk | I was wanting to see if there is a way to monitor it for things like USB chargers and whatnot |
| 23:20.41 | chrisa | There should be a sysfs node in the w1 driver that displays the present current |
| 23:21.10 | ka6sox-work | cryptk, typically there is a USB gadget that handles that. and corresponding sysfs entries. |
| 23:21.50 | rwhitby | govnah displays the battery current |
| 23:22.00 | cryptk | I am talking for on my system |
| 23:22.12 | cryptk | I was wanting to monitor the current flow into a USB charger for a battery I have |
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| 23:28.58 | *** topic/#webos-internals is Server is down. Discussion about webOS internals (not webOS SDK usage - #webos for that, or wIRC - #wirc for that). Honor all licenses, carrier agreements and copyrights. Twitter: @webosinternals Logs: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/ Wiki: http://www.webos-internals.org/ Pastebin: http://webos.pastebin.com/ Preware: http://install.preware.org/ Patches: http://patches.webos-internals.org/ |
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| 23:29.34 | Anivrom | Well I have a sun microsystems unix certificate but that was over 6 years ago so I'd say none. |
| 23:29.57 | Anivrom | But I can follow along fairly well :P |
| 23:30.02 | rwhitby | Anivrom: we need to work out what is stopping the remount rw on / |
| 23:30.32 | rwhitby | all that is happening is "mount -o remount,rw /" |
| 23:30.43 | rwhitby | and that is giving the error you are seeing |
| 23:30.45 | cryptk | chrisa: this isn't for the pre battery... |
| 23:30.49 | Anivrom | ok |
| 23:31.07 | chrisa | cryptk: you ask in a pre channel you get a pre answer |
| 23:31.19 | cryptk | chrisa: lol, I guess I deserve that |
| 23:31.20 | rwhitby | So we need to draw on the experience of our filesystem experts in here to work out why that remount is not working |
| 23:31.38 | rwhitby | Anivrom: can you go in on the command line and confirm that you get the same error from the command line? |
| 23:31.51 | Anivrom | ok explain how to do that? |
| 23:31.51 | chrisa | run the remount in verbose for one thing |
| 23:32.08 | chrisa | Unless the bb version lacks that |
| 23:34.21 | cryptk | lsof may shed a little light also |
| 23:41.34 | appamaway | is away: Gone away for now |
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| 23:43.33 | rwhitby | appamaway: please turn that off |
| 23:43.54 | appamajig | is back. |
| 23:44.06 | rwhitby | appamajig: please turn that off |
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| 23:52.08 | xcomp | particularly likes Apple's new "see, if you hold the DroidX up at a 37.53 degree angle relative to the sun during a half crescent moon and fart three times in quick suggestion, you can see the bars drop to zero" campaign. |
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| 23:55.03 | punzada | I liked that right at their press conference during the Q&A one guy was like "um, I have a bold right here and can't seem to get it to happen like that presentation said, will you show me?" |
| 23:55.10 | punzada | i found it hilariously entertaining |
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