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| 00:42.29 | jamesklyne | what's with everyone leaving Palm? |
| 00:48.01 | summatusmentis | I'm not sure the "exodus" is actually that uncommon when small comapnies get bought by big ones |
| 00:57.06 | chrisa | We're a bit past the "buyout exodus" time range |
| 00:57.19 | chrisa | Unless they lay people off now |
| 00:58.01 | bpadalino | hows new life, chrisa ? |
| 00:58.19 | chrisa | Same as old, I just don't have an hp email address |
| 00:58.31 | bpadalino | doing fun stuff? |
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| 01:11.53 | Rinku | can someone please show me a WORKING howto that describes sshing into my pixi? |
| 01:12.09 | Rinku | cause this don't work |
| 01:12.10 | Rinku | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/OpenSSH_Install |
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| 01:22.10 | Rinku | can anyone guide me through sshing into my pixi |
| 01:22.17 | Rinku | cause none of the howto's work |
| 01:22.27 | bpadalino | :( |
| 01:22.30 | bpadalino | that is a little sad |
| 01:22.39 | summatusmentis | yes they do |
| 01:22.43 | Rinku | yeah it keeps rejecting my rsa |
| 01:22.48 | summatusmentis | I used the one you linked above to ssh into my pre |
| 01:22.57 | summatusmentis | locally, I can't get dyndns working |
| 01:23.11 | Rinku | and how did you manage to ipkg-opt install openssh |
| 01:23.23 | summatusmentis | I think I used preware to install openssh |
| 01:23.48 | summatusmentis | I don't remember off the top of my head |
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| 01:27.42 | Rinku | server refused our key |
| 01:27.43 | Rinku | again |
| 01:31.16 | bpadalino | oh noes |
| 01:35.42 | Rinku | finally |
| 01:35.51 | Rinku | whothe frak knew what the prob was |
| 01:35.53 | Rinku | thx |
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| 02:35.23 | Davide-NYC | hello webos faithful, anybody take a look at that blacklist via category idea-feature? |
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| 02:41.48 | rwhitby | Rick_work: use Preware to install OpenSSH, not ipkg-opt. Read the OpenSSH homepage link in Preware for instructions. |
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| 02:50.18 | Davide-NYC | Mr. Whitby, should I proselytize my feature request in the forums? |
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| 02:55.45 | rwhitby | Davide-NYC: it's on the list, and oil or myself will likely get to it as we have spare time. Alternatively, if someone else sends a correct patch, we would accept that. |
| 02:56.46 | Davide-NYC | My question is more about how many people read the forums versus the IRC channel. |
| 02:57.11 | Davide-NYC | If it's better publicity for a potential patcher in the forums I'll post there. |
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| 03:00.09 | rwhitby | Davide-NYC: we have had only 1 external code contribution over the last year. It seems we're not reaching the right development audience for contributing to WebOS Internals open source tools. |
| 03:00.30 | oil | has no memory of someone actually submitting a patch when rwhitby says that xD |
| 03:01.07 | rwhitby | oil: Terminal special keys |
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| 03:03.55 | Davide-NYC | Hmm. That's a shame. I used to hang out over at the Rockbox project and they had a lot of activity. I wonder why there are so few submitters as WebOS must have a larger audience than Rockbox. |
| 03:04.36 | rwhitby | we have 15 people on the team |
| 03:10.59 | summatusmentis | but WebOS as a whole probably has a higher user base |
| 03:11.40 | SineOt | yeah, but the problem arrises when you've got a smaller percentage of users who 1) know to find webOS internals type stuff and 2) submit it |
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| 03:12.21 | summatusmentis | if no one gets to it by next week I can try and look at it then |
| 03:12.25 | summatusmentis | but not before then |
| 03:14.12 | summatusmentis | I also make no guarantees of being capable of submitting a correct patch |
| 03:15.17 | summatusmentis | rwhitby: patches should be against master right? vs. stable? |
| 03:21.13 | summatusmentis | wait, this request is... is it really only a matter of adding Category to the proper list? |
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| 03:21.36 | rsanchez | I have a question about uber kernel if anyone here can answer |
| 03:24.06 | Davide-NYC | summatusmentis: yes, that's the only thing |
| 03:24.25 | Davide-NYC | I just posted some cool mockup screenshots: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2731626#post2731626 |
| 03:25.05 | rsanchez | I'm developing apps and I think it's a good idea to test apps at the stock cpu speed |
| 03:25.18 | rsanchez | you can have the normal speed with uber kernel right? |
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| 03:28.53 | summatusmentis | Davide-NYC: sorry, I meant in the code specifically |
| 03:29.39 | summatusmentis | because if so, that's a patch of like... 2 lines, maybe |
| 03:30.15 | Davide-NYC | I haven't looked at the code so I do not know, but if it seems that simple I can say from experience that it probably isn't. |
| 03:30.31 | Davide-NYC | Try it |
| 03:30.36 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 03:30.44 | halfhalo | rsanchez: I do believe so |
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| 03:32.12 | SineOt | rsanchez: I think you'd still have any of the kernel compile options, but those shouldn't be that much of a gamechanger compared to testing on say, an 800mhz Pre or somethin' |
| 03:33.05 | rsanchez | I just want to have the option of setting the CPU speed to the stock 500mhz when I'm testing an app |
| 03:33.12 | halfhalo | use govnah |
| 03:33.19 | summatusmentis | you can absolutely do that with UK and govnah |
| 03:33.20 | halfhalo | it will let you |
| 03:33.45 | rsanchez | ok thanks |
| 03:34.10 | rsanchez | are all of you overclocking? |
| 03:34.33 | halfhalo | possibly.... |
| 03:34.37 | halfhalo | can't remember |
| 03:34.40 | SineOt | I'm even overclocking my Pixi :x |
| 03:34.58 | summatusmentis | rsanchez: yep |
| 03:35.09 | halfhalo | My overclock is overclocked!!! |
| 03:35.49 | rsanchez | have any quick tips if I choose to clock at 1Ghz? |
| 03:36.13 | summatusmentis | my battery can't handle 1Ghz, so none from me |
| 03:36.16 | SineOt | test it? |
| 03:36.34 | SineOt | my gf's pre can't handle 1ghz, it gets static on the display. It's kind of weird |
| 03:36.48 | summatusmentis | mine runs fine at 1Ghz |
| 03:36.52 | summatusmentis | it just kills the battery |
| 03:36.59 | rsanchez | summatusmentis: how quickly does it kill the battery |
| 03:37.14 | summatusmentis | erm... I haven't actually clocked it |
| 03:37.26 | summatusmentis | my battery just dies noticably sooner than it does at 720 |
| 03:37.37 | rsanchez | would you say it dies in an hour? |
| 03:37.44 | rsanchez | from 100% |
| 03:37.55 | summatusmentis | no |
| 03:38.02 | summatusmentis | probably something like 5 or 6? |
| 03:38.07 | rsanchez | oh that's fine |
| 03:38.07 | summatusmentis | maybe as long as 7, but that seems long |
| 03:38.17 | rsanchez | I'm normally not away from a charger for longer than four hours |
| 03:38.48 | summatusmentis | oh, see, I need mine to last the whole day until I get home at night |
| 03:38.53 | summatusmentis | there's no good way to charge on campus |
| 03:39.06 | summatusmentis | I always carry a usb cable with me :( |
| 03:40.11 | rsanchez | I just go to a computer lab and charge when I'm not in class |
| 03:42.11 | summatusmentis | I don't have time |
| 03:42.24 | summatusmentis | I also use my phone for music and stuff |
| 03:43.01 | SineOt | Energizer Energy to Go/Xpal power packs |
| 03:43.10 | SineOt | they pop up on Woot from time to time |
| 03:43.33 | SineOt | we've got one that can either recharge my Pixi twice on one charge, or give my netbook another 4 hours |
| 03:43.36 | rsanchez | I only use it for web browsing in class |
| 03:43.44 | rsanchez | play card ace sometimes |
| 03:43.49 | rsanchez | music and stuff in between |
| 03:47.05 | Loudergood | ever since I turned off phone data my battery life has soared |
| 03:47.28 | Loudergood | and I pretty much have wifi everywhere |
| 03:47.52 | summatusmentis | I need to figure out a way for my phone to auto-login to my uni wireless |
| 03:48.49 | Loudergood | my campus just rolled out a better solution...the web based gateway was frustrating |
| 03:49.06 | summatusmentis | indeed |
| 03:49.29 | SineOt | I'm just glad my campus is a really good sprint coverage area |
| 03:49.33 | SineOt | since I have no wifi :V |
| 03:50.01 | Loudergood | I'm probably about 30 miles from the nearest sprint tower |
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| 03:53.29 | rsanchez | I just installed uber kernel, but the highest speed it is allowing is 600MHz |
| 03:53.58 | summatusmentis | did you reboot? |
| 03:54.10 | rsanchez | yep |
| 03:54.44 | rsanchez | I'm gonan reboot again just in case |
| 03:58.57 | rsanchez | Govnah still doesn't show me speeds higher than 600 |
| 03:59.56 | summatusmentis | hrm |
| 04:04.13 | rwhitby | do you see a temperature in govnah? |
| 04:04.31 | rsanchez | it shows as N/A |
| 04:05.31 | rwhitby | you don't have uberkernel installed properly then |
| 04:06.24 | rsanchez | hmm |
| 04:06.33 | rsanchez | I just installed it off preware |
| 04:06.33 | rwhitby | did you install it using preware? |
| 04:06.50 | rwhitby | did you reboot the phone (not luna restart, full device shutdown and reboot) |
| 04:07.51 | rsanchez | let me try that again see if it helps |
| 04:08.07 | rwhitby | if it took less than 5 minutes, it wasn't a full reboot |
| 04:08.28 | rsanchez | you mean hold the lock button down, then power > restart reboot? |
| 04:10.09 | rwhitby | yep |
| 04:14.41 | rsanchez | ok reboot finished, temperature showing, testing speed... |
| 04:15.50 | rsanchez | have it running at 800MHz |
| 04:15.54 | rsanchez | thanks rwhitby |
| 04:16.01 | bpadalino | hopefully someone in france gets their pre2 soon so the 2.0 doctor can be ripped apart |
| 04:16.39 | rsanchez | bpadalino: someone in France has to have a pre 2 by now |
| 04:16.46 | rsanchez | at least I hope so |
| 04:16.58 | bpadalino | they were online only orders .. not sure how long it takes to ship |
| 04:17.08 | rsanchez | oh I see |
| 04:19.34 | rsanchez | nice, looks like my phone is running fine at 1Ghz |
| 04:19.40 | bpadalino | congrats |
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| 08:49.03 | pandora-- | might anyone here be able to point me in the right direction in finding some documentation on BrowerServer ? |
| 08:49.40 | pandora-- | I'm trying to find out how it resolves pageIdentifier parameter that it uses to talk with webview widgets |
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| 15:27.51 | morphis | heyho |
| 15:28.08 | morphis | rwhitby: ping |
| 15:33.47 | morphis | anybody here has already access to the Pre 2 and can tell me anything about the internal modem hardware / software which drives it from webos? |
| 15:34.09 | morphis | is it the same application (TelephonyInterfaceLayerGsm/Cdma) like on the Pre / Pre Plus devices? |
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| 16:20.27 | dtzWill | morphis: afaik no one here has one, still waiting on even getting a serial/doctor link if I understand correctly. |
| 16:20.45 | dtzWill | :( |
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| 18:05.01 | bsm | hi, how save is it to delete PalmDatabase.db3 ? Does webOS restore it? Of course I know that I'll loose all contacts, calendars and messages and call logs. |
| 18:05.14 | bsm | I want to get rid of this without partially wipe my phone |
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| 18:59.40 | kai_office | The wiki for WebOS_Internals_PDK says that make stage has errors. Anybody been able to work around these issues? |
| 18:59.54 | kai_office | doh, nvm |
| 18:59.56 | kai_office | read the topic |
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| 19:01.22 | dtzWill | errr did he think that webos SDK == webosinternals PDK? |
| 19:02.09 | halfhalo | Maybe? |
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| 19:53.16 | SineOtter | Any progress on getting the 2.0 doctor? |
| 19:53.40 | SineOtter | Things get all the more confusing: Â https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdownloads/webOSDoctors-1.4.5/Palm-webOS-Doctor_webOS-Sprint-Pixie_pixie_sprint.jar also hosts webOS doctors! |
| 19:55.47 | SineOtter | Although hm, altering URLs makes it -real- weird. There's no Sprint-Pre_pre_sprint.jar |
| 19:55.51 | swisstomcat | hmm |
| 19:57.40 | SineOtter | that link hosted the Sprint Pixi 1.4.5 doctor for Sprint prior to Sprint's official release, but the naming conventions are completely unknown |
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