IRC log for #webos-internals on 20101111

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00:27.59mdoggmorning all
00:28.27mdoggHas anyone come across either the STK or ftp apps in 2.0?
00:29.05SineOtSTK?
00:29.10SineOtwhat's that stand for
00:30.02en0xsim toolkit
00:30.36mdoggI haven't seen it in screenshots of the SFR Pre 2 but it is in the doctor
00:38.06PuffTheMagicwho is good with math/geom here
00:38.55mdoggdepends how simple it is
00:39.36en0xol
00:39.38en0x;]
00:41.30PuffTheMagichttp://ompldr.org/vNjRkZg/download.png
00:41.42Loudergoodyeah if we're diving into calculus I'll have issues
00:41.53PuffTheMagichow do i find the x,y coord of where that line intersects the box
00:42.09PuffTheMagicgive i know the coords of the box
00:42.15PuffTheMagicand the endpoints of the line
00:42.25Loudergoodfind the slope of the line
00:42.39mdoggfind the EQUATION of the line in y=mx+c
00:42.51mdoggsolve for y coord of box
00:43.01mdoggand sub y in to get x
00:43.02Loudergoodyeah what he said
00:43.09PuffTheMagic:D
00:43.12PuffTheMagicthanks
00:43.16PuffTheMagicthat was too easy
00:44.01mdogggood, wouldn't want to embarass myself ;)
00:44.04PuffTheMagicfeels retarded
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00:48.45retrywhere can I get info about the vcard exploit?
00:48.50retryis there a patch or workaround?
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00:55.52SineOtbleh, going to need to make a trip to the sprint store soon
00:56.08SineOtdead keyboard backlight + random shutdowns when placed on the touchstone
01:00.48destinalwow, for some reason I never saw the vcard thing
01:01.52destinalis that an outstanding vulnerability on 1.4.5?
01:02.26Loudergoodlooks like it was fixed in 1.4.5
01:02.51en0xwtf
01:03.00en0xthey told me i'm overqualified for a job
01:03.02en0xwtf?!
01:03.23destinalen0x: yeah, usually means they're worried you'll get a better job and leave them as soon as you can
01:03.44SineOtshould have just told them "what, scared I'll take your position" and then glared, evilly, for the rest of the interview
01:03.49en0xyeah but if that was be a truth i would not apply to them lol
01:03.53Loudergoodalso: we cant afford you
01:04.38mdoggor: we hired the dumb blonde
01:05.21en0xfinding a sys admin job is not an easy thing then
01:05.39destinalen0x: proper response is "don't worry, I'm easily pleased and not very ambitious"  ;)
01:05.39en0xwill see how many suckers will say that to me
01:06.11destinalen0x: or dumb down your resume
01:06.23en0xi b like... if u let me bang your daughter i won;t leave
01:06.23en0x;P
01:06.26SineOt"i r gud werker"
01:06.58en0xhehe
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01:07.42SineOt"en0x do lots good fer u compiny!"
01:08.12en0xhehehe
01:08.20en0xi should put in big letters
01:08.33en0x"your daughter > this job"
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01:19.04windzillaen0x: reminds me of robery jordan, guy who was rejected from new haven conn police force for scoring too high on there intelligence test.
01:19.22windzillarobert(sp)
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01:26.43destinalwindzilla: wow I had never heard of this..  ''Bob Jordan is exactly the type of guy we would want to screen out,''  said William C. Gavitt, the deputy police chief, who interviews  candidates. ''Police work is kind of mundane. We don't deal in gunfights  every night. There's a personality that can take that.''
01:27.09destinalso if you're too smart, you need lots of action to keep you interested?
01:27.36en0xindeed
01:28.10destinalfirst time I've heard they police specifically select for low to medium IQ.  wow.
01:30.01windzillaon the other hand I have a friend who is a state trooper in conn, and they don't have a too smart limit, just too dumb.
01:30.26destinal"We don't take kindly to your kind around here"
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01:30.42en0xoh
01:30.42windzillamaybe en0x needs to apply for state trooper sys admin
01:30.48en0xct... dont talk to me about ct
01:30.51en0xi hate ct
01:31.23windzillayour over qualified for that state anyway
01:31.31en0xwindzilla: i will figure it out anyway
01:31.38en0xi will make my cv dumber
01:31.49en0xand i won't show them that i know a lot at interviews :P
01:32.05en0xwindzilla: they gave me 300 bucks for speeding and wanted to put me in jail
01:32.09en0x:S
01:32.14en0xfor driving over 90mph
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01:33.30windzillayuck!
01:33.42spy2520virginia is worse. they fined me $400 and I went to jail. hate to jump in randomly but I had .02 to put in.
01:33.55en0xspy2520: for speeding?
01:34.11spy2520yes. 101 in 65.
01:34.11SineOthell, here you'll be going 75 in a 65 and -still- be getting passed by people in mini vans
01:34.12en0xwindzilla: good that ma does not take points from other states
01:34.25en0xspy2520: i was doing 98 in 65
01:34.27en0x:P
01:35.11spy2520I never ever got pulled over in CT though.
01:35.38windzillahey I'm (re)starting my first foray into developing an app. I am an absolute newbie. any recs on good online tutorials for html javascript ect besides those palm offers?
01:36.01windzillaalso en0x: you in MA like me?
01:36.04en0xi got pulled in ct, vermont, ma, ny
01:36.06destinalwindzilla: I'd ask in #webos
01:36.09en0xwindzilla: yeah :P
01:36.27en0xget me a job at ur place :p
01:36.53windzilladestinal: thanks, will do
01:38.09windzillaen0x if only I knew where that will be, applying for jobs now myself, currently a student.
01:38.29en0xoh where at?
01:39.21windzillaUMass worcester
01:39.38en0xwhy not amherst? :) better bitches there ;]
01:40.28windzillathat was undergrad :) married and in medschool now
01:40.44en0xoh :p
01:40.54en0xur life must suck ;P
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01:45.05windzillanah, not this month, this month I get to make an EKG app for credit, and learn the fundamentals of a whole new area. anyway I should probably stop monopalizing this channel with my life story. I'll just add if anyone is headed to dev day NYC from MA and w
01:45.05windzillaants to carpool I have 4 seats free.
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01:56.45en0xhttp://i.imgur.com/EA4fk.png lol
02:01.16b-man`en0x: LOL
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02:14.30Davide-NYCThe new version of Preware was just released and there is no sign of the blacklist on category feature. Am I missing something?
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02:18.17dtzWillDavide-NYC: brighthouse just made a large donation...
02:18.36Davide-NYCdtzWill: you're joking, right?
02:18.45dtzWillDavide-NYC: lol very very much so.
02:19.01dtzWillat least i think i am o_O :P
02:19.13dtzWillsorry :(
02:19.31ashi_toddlol
02:20.04rwhitbyDavide-NYC: blacklisting has been in there for months
02:20.16Davide-NYCnot on category
02:20.20rwhitbyoh, right.
02:21.05Davide-NYCOil alreadt wrote the patch adn told me it was going to be included in the next release
02:21.06rwhitbyyep, that missed the 1.4.1 testing: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/preware.git;a=summary
02:21.40Davide-NYCcan I help?
02:21.56oilyeah, just needs to be released
02:22.04Davide-NYCRelease the beast!
02:23.10oillol
02:23.31oilthere is other stuff that needs releasing too
02:23.33oilor
02:23.34oilmore testing
02:24.13halfhalo_psh, testing
02:24.21halfhalo_their not bugs, their features!
02:24.56Davide-NYCcan I help?
02:26.10rwhitbyDavide-NYC: 1.4.2 should be in the testing feed, containing that feature.  are you running that?
02:26.26Davide-NYCno. where do I get the testing feed?
02:26.45rwhitbyhttp://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
02:27.18Davide-NYCbeautiful thanks
02:27.38rsanchez1_you can use novacom to transfer files between computer and device right?
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02:28.38ashi_toddI usually use webos quick install for that.
02:28.46ashi_todd(or scp)
02:29.01SineOtthere's also novabrowser, or nova-browser
02:29.04SineOtsomething like that
02:30.03SineOtnova-browser
02:30.07rwhitbyusually uses sshds
02:30.09rwhitbysshfs that is
02:30.17rsanchez1_i remember someone told me about novacom put to put files on device, but how do you get files from the device with novacom?
02:30.18rwhitbyor tramp in Emacs
02:30.24rwhitbynovacom get
02:30.29SineOtall you fancy folks and your wifis...
02:30.30ashi_toddaha
02:30.49rsanchez1_so something like novacom get file://(path to file) > file?
02:30.54rwhitbyyep
02:30.59rsanchez1_cool thanks
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02:31.23rwhitbylook in the MetaDoctor makefile for some more sophisticated usage of novacom to grab whole filesystems
02:31.44halfhalo_uses the power of imagination to transfer files!
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05:35.16PullingJso, my sprint pre decided to do a reset on it's own and wiped /media/cryptofs  I reinstalled preware, and am going through my saved package list.  The problem I am running into is all my patches are still installed, but preware doesn't reallize it.  What is the best way to recover from this situation?
05:36.19SineOtEPR
05:36.24SineOtEmergency Patch Recovery
05:38.25PullingJfigured
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05:58.20PullingJand uberkernel is also still installed, which kernel should i "install" to uninstall it so i can reinstall it?
05:59.36SineOtIt's called like, Recovery Kernel?
05:59.40SineOtOr Palm Stock
05:59.42SineOtCan't remember
05:59.47PullingJexactly
06:00.18bhueySprint !
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06:07.45destinalbhuey: is that like Khaaaaaaaaaaann!!!
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06:08.30destinalzzzzz
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06:52.22bhueydestinal-sleep: something like that
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08:11.29PullingJit was palm kernel, btw
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08:49.34[AD]Turbohi there
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08:53.02ice8lueheyho @ all
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11:00.56bsmjust a dumb frankendoctor question, did you try to take the egl libraries from 1.4.5...?
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11:15.25rwhitbyI believe destinal tried that.  it's in the channel logs from yesterday I think
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13:47.19suiin which file/s does webos store the contacts?
13:48.06suii have the problem that my pre does not backup to the palm profile
13:48.28suii turned backup off and on again and alle the informations got erased.
13:49.24suibut i need to claim my phone and want to doctor it
13:50.46suiand backup does not work. it's preparing but nothing happens
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13:51.51swisstomcati think it's in a sqlite db-file
13:51.58swisstomcathave you tried save/restore?
13:52.21suiwhich kind of safe/restore?
13:52.36suido you mean a patch in preware?
13:53.09suii backed up /var of my phone with rsync
13:55.30swisstomcatit's a homebrew app
13:55.36swisstomcatby webos-internals
13:56.06suithanks for the suggestion. i take alook in preware
13:57.06swisstomcathmm
13:57.09suifound it
13:57.12swisstomcatit doesn't seem to support contacts
13:57.49JD82wont ur phone back them up on a gmail account?
13:58.00JD82or ut palm account?
13:58.06JD82*ur
13:58.38suii don't have a gmail account. and i don't know why it does not back up to the palm account
14:01.13suiit keeps "preparing"
14:04.57suican i start backup on a shell and see whats happening?
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14:22.41suii seems like i have b0rked my account settings. removing an active sync account is now working for about 10 minutes and has not finished yet
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15:16.31Davide-NYCJust want to say thanks. I got the test feed working last night and I filtered ny category what I do not want to see and Preware (unbelievably) has become even more useful to me.
15:16.41Davide-NYCCheers.
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16:58.13webfellowRegarding Lumberjack ... looks like it has a Resource Monitor now, but it is disabled ... am I missing something?
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18:08.25sammyI fear some cache or some such is corrupted? I atempt to update uberkernel with preware from 119 to 121, it asks me to reboot, but afterwards, 119 is still installed. it didn't report any errors (why did it ask me to reboot if the upgrade failed?) but I'm
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18:09.56sammywhoops. the card w the server messages has to stay open.
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19:39.08SineOtHm, does preware only fix the URLs if you get the name right for the kernel testing feed only?
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20:11.24ajayhowdy!
20:13.03ajayQuick q.. I can't click on phone #'s or weblinks from other apps
20:13.32ajay(e.g. I can't use google voice from the web, I can't hit a web/ph# link from an email or SMS). This started after my phone went haywire the other day
20:16.55ajayHmm, I guess later in the day is the really active time for this channel huh?
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20:22.25swisstomcatisn't there a tool to fix those wrong file associations in preware?
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20:23.42ashi_todddunno, haven't seen that issue
20:25.21ajayswisstomcat: I was looking but didn't find anything. There was one about files that checked patches. I think having a theme installed screwed it up, but I'll try to uninstall the theme and try again
20:25.28swisstomcatEmergency MimeTable Reset
20:26.20swisstomcattry that one
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20:36.46oilSineOt: it does it for other feeds also
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20:36.56oilits done in the service, when it starts when your pre starts
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