IRC log for #webos-internals on 20110121

00:01.53scoutcampernotes webos-internals.org tux upgraded to a Pre2
00:03.18halfhalolulz
00:08.49Loudergoodeven the favicon? ;)
00:08.57Loudergoodloves to bug people about favicons
00:09.30scoutcamperLoudergood, you cant even see the favicon!
00:09.45LoudergoodI can tell it's not a pixi!
00:09.54scoutcamperLoudergood, i am assuming Templarian did this black majic, ask him
00:09.55Loudergoodif I squint really really hard
00:10.45Loudergoodactually I use the bookmark toolbar on firefox and have them just show the favicon, so I notice those things
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00:19.18Templarianlooks around... nope the pre just got scaled it is still a pre 1.
00:19.23Templarianhttp://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Patch_webOS_Graphics#Palm_Pre_Icons_.28FamFamFam_Silk_Style.29 <-
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05:58.30halfhalois awesome
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07:17.30KnoxBNYCanybody else getting errors when trying to update feeds in Preware right now?
07:19.21rwhitbyyeah, looks like something is up
07:19.55KnoxBNYC"ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget —passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-0Rf0LQ"
07:20.14KnoxBNYCoh good. i figured it was just me.
07:20.31KnoxBNYCno biggie. i'm sure you guys will sort it out in good time. was just checking :)
07:20.49KnoxBNYCThanks, Rod, for looking into it!
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07:29.40KnoxBNYCthey're dropping (pinging out) like flies
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08:36.35ka6sox-awaycan someone check the wiki please?
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17:59.49geinerI was wondering if I can get some help
17:59.58geinerfirst time here
18:01.31Loudergoodmaybe..
18:01.58geinerI have installed novacom and the sdk on Mandriva 64bit 2010.2
18:02.45geinerand get this message when run novacom
18:02.48geiner[2011/1/21 10:02:33] novacom_usb_findandattach_thread:424: usb_handle 0x180133a0, bus 001 dev 004
18:03.25geiner[2011/1/21 10:03:10] error reading packet,         retry, rc: -1, errno 9
18:04.13geinerI have tried with both the 32bit and 64bit OS and is the same thing
18:04.22Loudergoodthat I don't know...tried a different port or cable?
18:04.32ka6soxit doesn't like what your pre/pixi is saying
18:04.35geineryes
18:05.18ka6soxhave you rebooted the pre/pixi?
18:05.42geinerdoes anyone know why the packages are for ubuntu only in deb mode and not in rpm format as well
18:05.49geineryes I have done all of that
18:08.14geinerI even checked that is set to developer mode as well
18:13.18ka6soxgeiner, not familiar with what is available on the rpm side...use .debs here
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18:16.26geinerI used the alien option to convert from deb to rpm and install properly but is upon use that starts the problem
18:17.42ka6soxgeiner, now you are into indian country and I can't help you much...
18:18.09geinerthx anyways
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20:30.16danwarrenhi there
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20:30.48danwarrencan anyone help with a little problem I've got with preware and feeds
20:31.52danwarrenI m getting crc errors
20:33.48danwarreneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee its quiet
20:34.57danwarren:-P>          <d-:
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20:37.37danwarrenDoes anyone know why certain feeds might give me a CRC error in preware
20:40.09danwarrenit was working fine but now ive got crc errors when I have more than one feed enabled
20:41.16halfhalowhat feeds
20:41.42danwarrenhmm it seems to vary
20:41.56halfhaloreinstall preware
20:41.57danwarreniif i have optware enabled precentral gives me the error
20:42.19danwarreni'm putting like 1.3.8 preware on which is ancient
20:42.28halfhalo...
20:42.35danwarrenis there somewhere I can get 1.5.0 as a java install
20:43.05danwarrenor even 1.4.5
20:44.14halfhalothe java installers should be up to date
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20:47.00danwarrenmmm cant get on webos internals website for latest ver :(
20:47.02halfhalogrrrr
20:47.22danwarren?
20:47.41halfhaloshouldn't be down
20:48.17danwarrennah i saw a tweet on it - DNS sever is boggored atm
20:48.35danwarrenshit happens
20:49.32danwarrenmebe i can update to new preware from within old preware
20:49.35halfhalodifferent issues
20:51.28danwarrenmm I just selected the precentral feed as my ONLY feed and got CRC error. A few mins ago did the same thing with no CRC error.
20:51.57halfhaloit could very well be a bad precentral theme
20:51.59danwarrendifferent every time :( I can't work out whats going wrong for me
20:52.27danwarrenI don't think ive got any themes, never installed a theme
20:52.40halfhalofeed, not theme
20:52.49halfhalowonders where he got theme from...
20:53.21danwarren:P
20:54.35halfhalooh son of a.... git is down as well
20:55.56danwarrenmabee I should try again another day :) I
20:56.06Loudergoodthat'll happen with dns issues
20:57.09halfhalogoes to kick the dns servers
20:57.32halfhalowhere are my pants!!!!  can't leave home to go kick a server without pants!
20:57.56danwarrenno ya can get arrested for kicking servers without pants
20:58.07halfhalonot if I drive fast enough
20:59.13danwarrenyou don't need pants just really big boots
21:12.40danwarrengettin there now -  Ive updated preware from 1.3.8 to 1.5.0 from within preware
21:13.54danwarrenso in theory I should be able to just enable the webos and precentral feeds and not get a CRC error
21:14.07danwarren\
21:16.23danwarrenmy penguin seems to be pulsating  4 a bit too long here
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21:17.51halfhalopenguin?
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21:20.09danwarrenyea the splash screen at the start of preware
21:21.00danwarrenpulsating penguin
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21:23.02danwarrenmuh ... Its definitly hung on preware I'll try a restart
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21:27.19danwarrenffs preware has now disapeared from the menu
21:27.37danwarrenits flipping voodoo I tell ya
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22:11.52sega01hey cryptk: have you had any luck with the comm board swap?
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22:33.03CTLAdvanceIsega01 which devices
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23:00.57cryptksega01, it's done
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23:17.18tmandryoh man
23:17.36tmandrydebugging Qt applications using gdb on-device is SLOW
23:18.33LoudergoodI bet
23:18.55tmandryof course that's because I have the qt libs debug info loaded and have memcache and the highest setting (while possibly still swapping to flash)
23:19.54Loudergoodyikes
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23:20.05Loudergoodnext you're going to tell me it's a sprint pixi
23:20.19tmandryno but it is an original pre :/
23:20.42tmandryall I have unfortunately :p pre plus is still fairly expensive on ebay :p
23:20.54tmandry(or was a few weeks ago)
23:21.25LoudergoodI should be getting one in the mail shortly
23:21.38Loudergooddown to $90
23:23.22tmandryI should just use the emulator
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23:25.56sega01cryptk: awesome, thanks. i've been anxious to give it a try and test the bandwidth on it
23:26.13cryptkthe bandwidth is still 3G
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23:34.47tmandrydoes the emulator already have PDK dev stuff installed?
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23:50.46scoutcampernals
23:52.10halfhaloinsane!!!
23:53.30sega01cryptk: right, but i'm still curious about the real world difference from my 4G android vs the pre on t-mobile
23:54.34halfhalowon't you still be limited to 2g?
23:56.18sega01hrm, you mean edge speeds like the iphone on t-mobile?
23:56.25halfhaloyeah
23:56.26ShaedShey guys
23:56.30ShaedSdoes the pre do VNC & RDP?
23:57.30halfhaloI think it may do vnc via homebrew, but I don't really remember
23:57.59ShaedShome brew as in unlocked?
23:58.25halfhalono, as in via a preware installable app
23:59.01*** join/#webos-internals etx_ (~etx_@d149-67-169-60.try.wideopenwest.com)
23:59.12ShaedSthat's totally doable
23:59.14ShaedSwhat about vpn?
23:59.36halfhalowebos2.0 can on the pre2
23:59.38wgreenhouseShadeS: yes
23:59.42tmandryum is debugging PDK apps possible in the emulator?
23:59.44ShaedSI don't have a pre2
23:59.46ShaedSI just have a palm pre
23:59.50ShaedSam I out of luck?
23:59.54rwhitbyyes
23:59.55wgreenhousethe pre can do vnc
23:59.58ShaedSugh

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