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02:12.24Tibfiboil / rwhitby is there a way in impostah to see how large a db8 database is?
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18:20.59destinalhttp://www.precentral.net/webos-and-shr-dual-booted-pre
18:21.16destinalhttps://github.com/slyon/bootr
18:22.40destinallooks like rather than multi-boot it's multi-init, but still
18:37.35destinalchecked out the code, very much hard coded for those two distributions down to the frame buffer images used for the two logos together, but neat nonetheless
18:38.16halfhaloewww, hardcoded stuff
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18:48.32GNUtoo|laptopdestinal, hi so will you try SHR when it will be ready ? :)
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18:52.35RagingMinddestinal, so it still boots the regular pre kernel then runs a different init and gui stuff?
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19:21.25destinalRagingMind: you can run various linux distributions from the same kernel and have init load different root filesystems
19:21.33destinalthat's what's being done here
19:21.53RagingMindah, nifty
19:22.14RagingMindthat makes a lot more sense to me over trying to actually multiboot
19:25.28destinalwell, it's a lot easier than writing a bootloader / chainloader / something that can kexec another kernel, etc
19:26.20destinaldownside is you may want to run different kernels or different kernel boot args, and you can't do that here
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19:51.08archit_+dtzWill: hi
19:52.57dtzWillarchit_: 'ello :D
19:53.09dtzWillslightly busy, but what can i do ya for?
19:53.36archit_+dtzWill: I have been working on webos for the development of a 2d game...
19:54.22dtzWillcool! :)
19:54.37archit_+dtzWill: I just wanted to know b/w Sdl n es which wold be better for its development
19:54.38archit_?
19:55.44dtzWilli suppose it depends on your familarity with both of those systems, and the visual complexity of your game.
19:56.40archit_its only elementry graphics.
19:57.31dtzWillsdl is probably the easiest and therefore the best.
19:57.31archit_formally I didn't knew that webos does not support opengl and I developed the game in that
19:57.54dtzWillarchit_: well opengl -> opengl es seems better than rewriting entirely in SDL
19:58.56dtzWillby better i mean easily, and potentially a higher quality result
20:00.50dtzWillarchit_: for further discussion perhaps some other lurkers will pipe up, else might wanna ask in #webos if you haven't.
20:01.24dtzWillnominally #webos is the appropriate forum for this kinda discussion :)
20:01.46dtzWillwanders off
20:01.49RagingMinddtzWill, they pointed him to you in here
20:01.53archit_+dtzWill:actually a user in webos refered your name
20:02.38archit_can you help me find some good tutorials to es
20:02.40archit_?
20:02.49destinaldtzWill: that was me, you're the best I know on IRC at this
20:02.55destinalarchit_: dtzWill: have you seen this iPhone 3d programming book?   http://iphone-3d-programming.labs.oreilly.com/   looks like the majority of the text would apply
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20:03.10destinaland you can read the whole thing online or buy the physical book
20:03.40archit_would it work on palm?
20:04.12RagingMindarchit_, a quick web search brought up a bunch of stuff on going from opengl to opengl es
20:04.38destinalarchit_:  you'd have to look at some of the PDK examples on developer.palm.com,  iPhone opengl es games are very easy to port to webos if written in C or C++
20:05.08destinalarchit_: and yeah I would google stuff on converting from gl to gles
20:05.32dtzWilli learned opengl es from http://www.opengles-book.com/ fwiw
20:05.44dtzWillmight not be the best, i wouldn't know.  but just FYI
20:06.24dtzWilland depends what you need to know--that book might not be best for guiding opengl to opengl es migrations
20:06.36dtzWilldestinal: don't think i've seen that book, no.  ty for the link.
20:07.54destinaldtzWill: nice thing is even the PowerVR stuff talking about iPhone would apply, since we use the same graphics core
20:08.09archit_thanx for your help.I try these thing out
20:08.20destinaldtzWill: on pre anyway
20:09.06dtzWilldestinal: absolutely.
20:09.14dtzWillgood call, looks like a good read.
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21:41.08davidHelllo
21:41.31davidI have a question, I just bought a Palm Pre in Mexico
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21:41.41davidbut only have the web OS 1.4.0
21:42.33davidand when I tried to buy one game from gameloft the system said me that the game is for WebOS 1.4.5
21:43.08davidHow can I install this games in my palm pre?
21:44.14david?
21:51.10rwhitbyupgrade the device to 1.4.5
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23:43.51ThevoidCan someone recommend me a free media player for the pre plus?
23:47.59GNUtoo|laptopThevoid, is mplayer ported to the pre?
23:48.10Thevoiddont know
23:49.10GNUtoo|laptopI'll go bye
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