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01:20.21Mouseyhey, go vote webos!
01:20.22Mouseyhttp://blog.laptopmag.com/os-bowl-game-3-webos-vs-android-voting-ends-22-at-9-a-m
01:21.15en0xf this...
01:21.39Mousey?
01:21.49en0xscripting issues
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02:28.22ThevoidWhat sort of usb transfer rates do you guys get to the pre?
02:29.26Loudergoodslower than my cable modem :/
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02:30.53Thevoidim getting about 1.5 mb/sec
02:31.00Thevoidso thats normal?
02:31.08LoudergoodI don't really know
02:31.20Thevoidim attempting to transfer over 9gb of music over
02:31.32Loudergoodhave fun
02:31.53Thevoidgot more than 2 hours left woo
02:37.40RagingMindThevoid, you sure you're in a USB2 port?
02:38.39Thevoidlmfao, yes
02:39.04Thevoidim not using a pentium 2 system or something
02:39.24RagingMindmy pentium 3 system has usb 1.1
02:39.36RagingMindI had to get an add in card for my pre and ipod
02:39.48Thevoidim using a core 2 laptop
02:40.12Thevoidi want to get a tualatin system to mess with tho
02:40.43RagingMindI have a dual CPU 1.26GHz PIII Tualatin
02:40.50Thevoidwhich board?
02:40.56RagingMindIntel SAI2
02:40.59Thevoiddont tell me its the iwill
02:41.01Thevoidah
02:41.23Thevoidi wish i could find the iwill apollo pro 266 dual board
02:41.50RagingMindI had to settle for this board, I can't remember what my first pick was
02:42.27Thevoidi dont think there were very many options for dual tualatins outside of server boards
02:42.52Thevoidmost dual p3 boards couldnt/wouldnt support tualatin
02:42.59RagingMindit's still plenty fast for every day stuff, the one really annoying thing is that it doesn't do suspend.  so unless I want to jack up my power bill I have to full shut down every night
02:43.51Thevoidon the other hand, the old asus p2b-ds 440bx board with slot1-socket adapters can run dual tualatins
02:44.15Thevoidat full bus speed
02:44.24Thevoidimpressive board for its day
02:45.08Thevoidpower bill? im getting a pentium 965 extreme edition to play with tomorrow
02:45.30Thevoidi have a 915 now, ive seen 400w power draw in bios
02:45.42RagingMindnext time I have a real job and can afford spiffy things I"m upgrading my system and my current hardware is going in a closet as a media server
02:45.42bpadalinothat
02:45.46bpadalino's a lot of current
02:46.11Thevoidi was impressed the 975xbx2 could handle it
02:46.18RagingMindmy computer is about ~100W as measured by my UPS (includes my monitor too)
02:46.25Thevoidthis was at over 5ghz with voltmod
02:47.46ThevoidRagingMind: if you come across a load of spare cash, look into the skulltrail board
02:47.54Thevoidi have one and its awesome
02:48.14Thevoidyou can put in any 1333 or 1600 fsb xeon
02:48.19RagingMindI'm super picky and I tend to set rather odd rules when it comes to computer hardware
02:48.34Thevoidsuch as?
02:48.36RagingMindideally... the mobo will NOT have onboard video or audio
02:48.37rwhitbywonders if any of these boards run webOS ...
02:48.50RagingMindrwhitby, how about a beagleboard? :)
02:48.59rwhitbyif not, #webos-watercooler awaits ...
02:49.05Thevoidi cant even get the PDK emulator to run, rob
02:50.02Thevoidthats understandable, considering some of the crap they put onboard
02:50.13Thevoidlike VIA sound chips
02:50.26Thevoidthankfully, ey can be disabled in BIOS
02:50.50Thevoidrob, i had a question earlier you may have missed
02:51.02Thevoidregarding pre usb drive transfer speed
02:51.14rwhitbyThevoid: yes, I probably did miss it with all the off-topic discussion in the way ;)
02:51.40Thevoidhey, at least its tech related
02:56.13Thevoidrob, is ~1.5 mb/s a normal transfer rate for usb drive mode?
02:56.42rwhitbydunno, I usually use scp over wifi for transfers
02:56.54Thevoidis it faster?
02:57.12rwhitbydunno, but no wires.
02:57.22rwhitbybtw, it's Rod, not Rob.
02:57.39Thevoidsorry
02:58.15Thevoidfrom what ive seen, wifi g maxes out around 2.5mb/sec
03:01.02rwhitbybbl
03:01.07Thevoidheh
03:01.52ThevoidRagingMind: http://tipperlinne.com/p2bmod
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05:19.14Thevoidgosh, this is so much better than a slightly off topic discussion
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05:20.30rwhitbyThevoid: actually it is, (1) it doesn't distract those who are online and only want to see webos-internals discussion, and (2) it doesn't make it harder for those in other timezones who read the logs expecting only webos-internals discussions
05:20.43Thevoiduhoh looks like muesli is a victim of running out of ipv4 addresses
05:21.03rwhitbyif you're looking for a random chat channel, there are 10,000 other channels on Freenode
05:21.14Thevoidyes, i know that rod, i was being facetious
05:21.19muesliThevoid: or a victim of testing linux suspend ;-)
05:22.05rwhitbyThevoid: that may be, but the premise still holds.  This channel is simply not for random discussion, and it's a principle which is upheld reasonable strictly for those reasons.
05:22.22rwhitbysilence on the channel is always better than noise.
05:22.41rwhitbyand we specifically have #webos-watercooler for discussions on any topic
05:23.16Thevoidwoo 8 ppl lol
05:23.33Thevoidthanks rod, ill try to drum up a convo there
05:24.12rwhitbywell, the best way to increase that is to notice when a conversation is going off-topic here, and point people *then* to it.
05:24.51Thevoidoh great, cant talk there without auth'ing
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05:36.15PatrickC_Homehay guys
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06:33.26SargunWebOS > Android guys, it's official
06:33.45Sargunj #webos-internal-ops
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07:38.39wgreenhousewhat is the meaning of the "override charger" setting in Govnah?
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20:00.05macman_hi all
20:00.14macman_im on the sdk/emulator thinking of buying a palm pre
20:00.28macman_whats the command to type to unlock it and th bring up package manager
20:07.52macman_gpto t
20:07.56macman_got it
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22:57.25draeathDoes anyone know off the top of there head where preware stores the saved package list? I'd like to back this list up off of the device, as it's beginning to show it's age and I'm expecting a failure in the future.
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22:58.12rwhitbySave/Restore backs it up
22:58.20rwhitbyit's in a Mojo db
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23:15.05infobotmethinks ka6sox is Chief Server Infrastructure Architect and Sys-Admin Team Lead(aka BOFH), Work Time:High Power RF,  VHDL/Verilog Design, Play Time: Dabble with Kernel development.
23:17.59wgreenhouseBOFH excuse #159:
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23:18.00wgreenhouseStubborn processes
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23:18.58*** join/#webos-internals PatrickC_Home (~Patrick_C@unaffiliated/patrick-c/x-9440769)
23:19.59PatrickC_Homehellp
23:20.04PatrickC_Homehello** lol
23:26.42macman_i need to play with my emu
23:29.47PatrickC_Homewhy? lol
23:29.53PatrickC_Homedid u get ur pre+?
23:31.16macman_Question
23:31.21macman_i can\t get this luna thing to send a text
23:31.23macman_any help ?
23:31.36PatrickC_Homewhat luna thing?
23:31.46rwhitbymacman_: have you read the wiki page on it?
23:31.50PatrickC_Homer u trying to send a text from the emu?
23:32.36macman_yes
23:32.39macman_im on the page right now
23:32.53macman_Send a text message - only need to change phone "value" and "messageText"
23:33.44PatrickC_Homequestion about preware
23:34.04PatrickC_Homewhat kind of ftp site do i have to have to have a repo to use in preware?
23:34.40rwhitbyyou need a web server, that's it.
23:35.02PatrickC_Homeso any ftp site?
23:35.16rwhitbyyou need a web server, that's it.
23:35.35rwhitbypreware doesn't talk ftp
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23:36.13PatrickC_Homeis there places that i could get a free web server?
23:36.27macman_rwhitby you mind helping me with it
23:36.35macman_i changed the phone value and the message text
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23:38.05appsotutelyI'd like to propose some changes to the screenshots scene in Preware.
23:38.23macman_i think i need to change the phone vaule to the phone on the sdk
23:38.31rwhitbyappsotutely: g'day
23:38.36appsotutelyHi
23:39.32PatrickC_Homedoes anyone here know anything about xerver?
23:40.14PatrickC_Homebrb
23:40.21appsotutelyI coded some changes to make the screenshots loop around in both directions and to format it so that the full screenshots will show up on pixi sized screens.
23:40.44wgreenhousePatrickC_Home: just rehabilitate an old desktop and get a dynamic dns reg. for it
23:40.52appsotutelyShould I use pastebin to pass along the patch?
23:41.53rwhitbyappsotutely: sure
23:42.25macman_http://pastie.org/1519942 < -- do you guys see anything wrong with this luna command ?
23:44.59macman_i found a better command
23:46.34appsotutelyrwhitby: ok, just posted. Let me know if that's the right format.
23:46.46rwhitbyappsotutely: url?
23:47.03appsotutelyrwhitby: http://webos.pastebin.com/6AFkWP0f
23:48.31rwhitbyappsotutely: does the scaling part depend upon the looping part at all?
23:48.54rwhitbyappsotutely: cause I'm all for the scaling, but not sold on the looping
23:49.13appsotutelyrwhitby: no, I could separate them easily.
23:49.46rwhitbyplease do, and I'll ask oil to look at the scaling part
23:49.56macman_luna-send -n 1 luna://com.palm.pmradiosimulator/set_incomingsms {\"number\":\"4086177431\",\"
23:49.56macman_message\":\"'Virtura Reality'\"}
23:49.59macman_does that look right ?
23:50.11appsotutelyrwhitby: ok, will do
23:50.55macman_i fixed it
23:51.51appsotutelyrwhitby: with regards to the looping, it sort of does it already, but only in one direction. Perhaps have it stop on either side might be better?
23:54.47rwhitbyappsotutely: I thought preware just showed the screenshots and stopped at left and right ends?
23:55.27sethronrwhitby: remember dementia pre?
23:55.33rwhitbysethron: yep
23:56.23sethronrwhitby: wife just got a new Sprint Pixi (hopefully the 3rd time is a charm) and I'm wondering if she can use the same email address for her Palm Profile
23:57.01rwhitbysethron: see /msg
23:59.11appsotutelyrwhitby: if you swipe left, you'll eventually loop around and keep looping around.  There's no bounds checking for the length of the screenshots array, so you just keep on going ...

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