| 00:02.08 | Josef_B | dumbledore you able to ssh to your pre ? |
| 00:02.25 | dumbledore | never tried |
| 00:02.30 | dumbledore | but i did on my pixi |
| 00:02.35 | dumbledore | are you talking for 2.1? |
| 00:02.41 | Josef_B | nope 1.4.5 |
| 00:02.51 | dumbledore | yeah i was able to do so on my pixi |
| 00:03.00 | dumbledore | need the steps? |
| 00:03.13 | Josef_B | i followd webos-interlas guide to setup putty .. now i mtrying to connect .. i get login and type in root .. and press enter booth i get some authenitcation error |
| 00:03.47 | Josef_B | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.11 | dumbledore | USB or WiFi? |
| 00:04.33 | Josef_B | wifi |
| 00:04.38 | dumbledore | try USB |
| 00:04.46 | dumbledore | thats how i did mine |
| 00:04.52 | Josef_B | ping is fine |
| 00:04.56 | dumbledore | oh |
| 00:05.14 | dumbledore | i have no clue... :/ i never had that error before |
| 00:07.16 | NuttyBunny | rwhitby: Hey Rod! Is there a way we could put the Upgrade to 2.0 wiki page in other languages? (specifically I'm thinking in spanish) :) |
| 00:07.42 | rwhitby | NuttyBunny: sure, just do it the same way the Meta-Doctor page is done |
| 00:08.09 | Josef_B | this might be easier on ubuntu |
| 00:08.41 | internals-scale | there are way to many laptops with irc here right now |
| 00:09.17 | dumbledore | ubuntu is best for doing stuff for webos imo |
| 00:09.26 | rwhitby | internals-scale: I've turned off skype |
| 00:09.51 | jacques_pre | the crowd for the drawing gets bigger every time |
| 00:10.06 | internals-scale | I rebooted that laptop anywho |
| 00:10.09 | NuttyBunny | rwhitby: Excellent :) |
| 00:11.52 | internals-scale | booth is pretty much dead ATM, hp drawing |
| 00:12.21 | Boopop | rwhitby: does Save/Restore backup and restore contacts by any chance? |
| 00:12.29 | rwhitby | no |
| 00:12.34 | rwhitby | use google for that |
| 00:12.40 | rwhitby | or http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Contacts_Transfer_(1.4.x_to_2.x) |
| 00:12.59 | Boopop | Thanks |
| 00:13.20 | rwhitby | jacques_pre: halfhalo has a spot to upload pictures |
| 00:13.37 | Boopop | Tried that earlier, it stopped at "preparing email" >.< |
| 00:14.26 | Boopop | Hmm, maybe if I try again and with the uberkernel it might go a bit quicker... |
| 00:19.13 | oil | wonders where pictures are |
| 00:20.16 | scoutcamper|away | oil, me too |
| 00:20.34 | dumbledore | Boopop: did you configure an email address in contacts app |
| 00:20.56 | Boopop | How did you mean dumbledore? |
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| 00:21.30 | dumbledore | did you add an email account? |
| 00:21.51 | Boopop | in the email app or the contacts app? |
| 00:21.56 | Boopop | I think I had an email address configured |
| 00:22.02 | Boopop | well I'll check this time anyway |
| 00:22.08 | dumbledore | did you add the password? |
| 00:22.35 | Boopop | dunno |
| 00:22.44 | dumbledore | check it |
| 00:22.57 | Boopop | password for what? |
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| 00:23.01 | Boopop | the email address? |
| 00:23.13 | dumbledore | yeah |
| 00:24.50 | internals-scale | Jack87-- I still remain without a Pre2! and feet on fire. |
| 00:28.41 | halfhalo | goes to sleep under the booth |
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| 00:53.03 | PatrickC_Pre | wassup? |
| 00:58.51 | navinag2 | http://webos.pastebin.com/Kc4b1C6k |
| 00:59.34 | PatrickC_Pre | what's that for; |
| 00:59.41 | PatrickC_Pre | s/;/? |
| 01:00.10 | navinag2 | i was just showing you the settings just in case it would be of any help |
| 01:00.11 | scoutcamper | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.22 | halfhalo | uggg |
| 01:00.26 | PatrickC_Pre | ahh ok |
| 01:00.30 | scoutcamper | hi haeffb |
| 01:00.36 | scoutcamper | halfhalo* |
| 01:00.38 | scoutcamper | lolz |
| 01:00.42 | scoutcamper | stupid x-chat |
| 01:00.53 | halfhalo | I try to rest now |
| 01:00.57 | scoutcamper | go sleep |
| 01:00.57 | navinag2 | i mean to post thatin another window |
| 01:01.01 | PatrickC_Pre | what happened? |
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| 01:02.35 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 01:06.36 | PatrickC_Pre | bbl |
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| 01:11.46 | Josef_B | hates novaterm |
| 01:11.47 | Josef_B | lol |
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| 01:16.31 | halfhalo | well look who it is |
| 01:21.48 | dumbledore | my pre hasent falled back into 1x as of today :D |
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| 01:55.00 | NuttyBunny | has now finished translating Rod's wiki webOS 2.0 update page to spanish :D http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Actualizacion_webOS_2.0 |
| 01:58.53 | Josef_B | nice |
| 02:00.50 | dumbledore | when can we expect a flashlight patch for 2.1? |
| 02:02.12 | NuttyBunny | There is one already |
| 02:03.11 | NuttyBunny | Jason's Device Menu Megamix, but you have to ask him for access to the systoolsmgr beta, since it's for 2.x it's under NDA and can't be published in the Preware servers :( |
| 02:04.23 | dumbledore | oh... |
| 02:04.26 | dumbledore | :/ |
| 02:07.00 | dumbledore | lol nuttybunny thats awesome what you did with the wiki page |
| 02:07.51 | Josef_B | he must have put it thru a web transulator :P eh NuttyBunny |
| 02:08.39 | dumbledore | i have a 60kb .vfc archive :3 |
| 02:09.00 | dumbledore | 60kb of peoples numbers :D |
| 02:09.33 | Josef_B | sad |
| 02:10.06 | Jmarlow | question, If I used the metadoctor script for the verizon pre plus, is there any way to get the mobile hotspot, skype, and flash on it without doing a fresh install? |
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| 02:19.14 | destinal | Jmarlow: you can extract the doctor image and get the verizon specific customizations and install them after the fact |
| 02:19.36 | destinal | flash too though it's a bit more work |
| 02:19.50 | Jmarlow | cool |
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| 02:19.53 | Jmarlow | thanks |
| 02:20.10 | Jmarlow | is there a step by step tutorial for doing so on a mac? |
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| 02:21.09 | tyrok | Howdy! I hear y'all are working on a system to get webOS 2.0 working on the Palm Pre Plus, but am having trouble finding the relevant information on the status of things. Does anyone have a link? |
| 02:21.36 | Jmarlow | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade |
| 02:21.54 | tyrok | Jmarlow: Perfect. Thank you! |
| 02:22.01 | Jmarlow | no problem |
| 02:22.50 | destinal | Jmarlow: I don't know of any tutorials yet |
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| 02:23.41 | Jmarlow | ah, okay...I'm not in a rush really, I'm sure it'll get clearer in the future |
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| 02:25.33 | tyrok | Okay, so I have another potentially silly question: There are instructions for manually installing the Adobe Flash Player plugin. Is there any reason those same steps couldn't be used to install it into webOS 1.4.5? |
| 02:26.14 | destinal | tyrok: while the plugin may install this way the browser doesn't have support for configuring it |
| 02:26.31 | tyrok | Right. |
| 02:26.52 | destinal | tyrok: with a homebrew app to manage the configuration (wherever it comes from) it may be possible |
| 02:27.19 | tyrok | Sounds like it'd make for an interesting experiment. |
| 02:27.36 | destinal | I tried it back in november and lacking the configuration stuff couldn't get it working |
| 02:28.39 | destinal | looking into what the 2.x browser actually does to configure it may be helpful though |
| 02:28.58 | destinal | I tried just trying to run the browser app from 2.x and it failed spectacularly :) |
| 02:29.07 | tyrok | Nice. :) |
| 02:30.34 | destinal | tyrok: do you have any links to the instructions, btw? Jmarlow was trying to install flash as well as the verizon-specific apps |
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| 02:37.07 | Jmarlow | Many are complaining that 2.1 is quite slow, but I don't see much of a difference from the default 1.45 state, the animations seem to be buttery smooth. I would obviously want to OC it at some point, but I could definitely live with this. |
| 02:40.02 | dumbledore | well if they're not running on o2 or a pre2, then they shouldn't be complaining since 2.1 wasn't made for their device :3 |
| 02:47.39 | tyrok | destinal: Just the link that Jmarlow sent over a little while ago. |
| 02:48.33 | Jmarlow | tyrok: I tried following the directions, but on the mac it's bit difficult, as I don't have winrar to unpack the .jar |
| 02:49.17 | tyrok | Ah, fun. Well, thanks for the pointers, folks! I think I'm going to head out. |
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| 02:51.18 | rwhitby | um, on a mac you just use unzip to unpack a .jar |
| 02:51.39 | rwhitby | Jmarlow: I do all webos-internals development on a mac, btw. |
| 02:52.19 | Jmarlow | rwhitby: thanks...I'm more than a bit incompetent. |
| 02:53.42 | djwhitey | so second battery on my 2.1'd Pre- won't charge. Dr. Battery tells me -200mA when not charging, -20mA when charging from the wall |
| 02:55.07 | djwhitey | anyone else having battery trouble? |
| 02:55.31 | rwhitby | djwhitey: I suspect you got the tokens wrong |
| 02:57.10 | rwhitby | thinks it's time for the meta-doctor to start controlling the repacking of stuff in the carrier tarball ... |
| 02:59.04 | djwhitey | k gonna doctor back to 1.4.5 & then to 2.1 not monkeying with tokens this time |
| 03:00.28 | djwhitey | rwhitby: out of curiosity, what do the tokens have to do with the battery/charging? |
| 03:01.03 | rwhitby | BATToCH and BATToRSP |
| 03:01.07 | rwhitby | challenge/response |
| 03:01.24 | djwhitey | i see |
| 03:02.07 | rwhitby | if you don't use my Show Properties app to extract your tokens in an email, it's easy to leave off digits from the end of BATT0RSP |
| 03:02.19 | djwhitey | I was using BATToRSP=1CCAA0AFD02D375FF257C3C08B940E065D794E and BATToCH=43CB072818047E72 |
| 03:02.53 | djwhitey | you're right, i sure did type them by hand |
| 03:03.03 | rwhitby | don't do tokens by hand |
| 03:03.14 | rwhitby | we provide tools for that |
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| 03:03.51 | djwhitey | Show Properties available in the feeds? |
| 03:04.42 | rwhitby | of course |
| 03:04.47 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 03:06.49 | Xuzz | so, uh: I'm getting a Pre 2 this week, but I'd like to read up and become less of an idiot beforehand. Besides clicking around randomly on the wiki, does anyone have any suggested "overview" style reading? |
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| 03:08.22 | haeffb | interesting... pre- 2 has an actdate of 6/19/09 |
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| 03:59.21 | PatrickC_Pre | hello |
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| 04:13.24 | PatrickC_Pre | jack87 so, what's up? |
| 04:19.22 | Jack87 | hi PatrickC_Pre ... noda i am just chilling here man |
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| 04:19.37 | PatrickC_Pre | awesome lol |
| 04:19.51 | PatrickC_Pre | I'm helping someone get a LED flashlight on their pre |
| 04:19.59 | PatrickC_Pre | they thought my app did that :p |
| 04:20.17 | Jack87 | lol |
| 04:20.21 | PatrickC_Pre | yea.... |
| 04:20.51 | PatrickC_Pre | and they dont know what I mean when I say "What version are you running? 1.4.5, 2.0.1, or 2.1?" |
| 04:23.33 | linuxjacques | hey Jack87 |
| 04:24.04 | Jack87 | linuxjacques, hi. |
| 04:24.52 | PatrickC_Pre | so jack, I tried to go ubuntu, but didn't know what to do once I booted it into VBox |
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| 04:27.33 | PatrickC_Pre | jack87, how do I install in a VBox? do I have it take over the whole partition? |
| 04:27.40 | Jack87 | linuxjacques, where are you |
| 04:28.29 | Jack87 | PatrickC_Pre, create a vbox... dynamic drive i would recommended 30 gigs. 1-2 gigs of ram. |
| 04:28.55 | PatrickC_Pre | then what? how do I install it inside the vbox? |
| 04:28.55 | Jack87 | download the iso.... and mount it to the vbox virtual cd drive and booth the machine. |
| 04:29.16 | PatrickC_Pre | then what? |
| 04:29.31 | Jack87 | after booted use "install ubuntu options".... is that where you are? |
| 04:29.36 | PatrickC_Pre | when I go to install, it wants to take over the whole drive |
| 04:29.43 | PatrickC_Pre | where I was |
| 04:29.55 | Jack87 | the whole virtual drive? |
| 04:30.11 | PatrickC_Pre | idk, it just said the whole drive |
| 04:30.20 | PatrickC_Pre | I don't have it in front of me right now though |
| 04:30.42 | Jack87 | create your own partition for a swap partition equal to the amount of ram you granted it |
| 04:31.16 | Jack87 | and than you can grant the rest of it to root. or you can just let ubuntu isntaller do it for you it should be good. |
| 04:31.18 | linuxjacques | Jack87, I'm in my hotel room |
| 04:31.18 | PatrickC_Pre | over my head :p |
| 04:31.30 | Jack87 | linuxjacques, meet up with me please. |
| 04:31.40 | Jack87 | PatrickC_Pre, i can help you another time |
| 04:31.47 | PatrickC_Pre | yea |
| 04:31.48 | Jack87 | sorry i been so busy lately |
| 04:31.52 | PatrickC_Pre | definatly |
| 04:32.00 | PatrickC_Pre | I'm not at the computer anyway |
| 04:32.20 | Jack87 | cool. ya it will be easier if you were not so hard |
| 04:32.32 | linuxjacques | Jack87, where are you? |
| 04:32.57 | Jack87 | in 9007... meet at loby? |
| 04:33.13 | linuxjacques | Jack87, OK lobby in 5 minutes? |
| 04:33.21 | Jack87 | sounds good thank you |
| 04:33.29 | linuxjacques | see you there |
| 04:33.40 | Jack87 | PatrickC_Pre, i need to go have a good evening |
| 04:33.49 | PatrickC_Pre | night jack |
| 04:33.52 | PatrickC_Pre | have a good one |
| 04:33.52 | graywolf336 | if i just doctored my phone (clean 1.4.5) and the data connection is disabled, is there any way of enabling the connection? |
| 04:34.09 | PatrickC_Pre | bypass activation? and then enable data? |
| 04:34.12 | PatrickC_Pre | or re-doctor |
| 04:34.30 | graywolf336 | i've re-doctored multipule times |
| 04:34.40 | PatrickC_Pre | hmmm |
| 04:34.44 | graywolf336 | i might bypass activation and enable it.. good idea |
| 04:34.48 | PatrickC_Pre | personal device I presume? |
| 04:35.05 | graywolf336 | one i'm trying to get activated for my mom |
| 04:35.09 | PatrickC_Pre | was it a meta-doctor? |
| 04:35.26 | graywolf336 | nope clean download from palm |
| 04:35.32 | PatrickC_Pre | hmm |
| 04:35.56 | PatrickC_Pre | i'd try the bypass and activate it, then erase apps&data |
| 04:36.21 | PatrickC_Pre | I mean bypass activation, enable data, then erase apps&data |
| 04:36.37 | graywolf336 | nothing's on it is the thing... but i'm gonna try and bypass and enable data... was just curious if there was a way to do it via terminal |
| 04:36.52 | PatrickC_Pre | not that I know of |
| 04:36.59 | PatrickC_Pre | maybe lund-send commands |
| 04:37.01 | PatrickC_Pre | in novaterm |
| 04:37.34 | graywolf336 | gonna see... |
| 04:37.56 | PatrickC_Pre | check #webos |
| 04:38.06 | PatrickC_Pre | they would no novaterm more then me :p |
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| 04:38.29 | graywolf336 | lol i'll try your suggestion first |
| 04:39.03 | PatrickC_Pre | ok |
| 04:39.10 | PatrickC_Pre | lemme know what happens |
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| 04:39.59 | halfhalo | is full |
| 04:40.35 | PatrickC_Pre | is tired and wishes he knew more coding.. and wishes this guy would google what I tell him about |
| 04:41.27 | PatrickC_Pre | so, I tell this guy about Preware, and he asks "What is Preware? Is it under the Reset Options?" |
| 04:43.16 | graywolf336 | Lol |
| 04:43.23 | PatrickC_Pre | yea.... |
| 04:46.57 | graywolf336 | wow so much faster download speeds of the webos doctors tonight! |
| 04:47.29 | PatrickC_Pre | why? |
| 04:47.36 | PatrickC_Pre | better connection :p |
| 04:48.26 | graywolf336 | no i think not as many people are downloading to do the 2.1 update :p |
| 04:48.56 | PatrickC_Pre | lol, are you going to meta-doctor it for her :p |
| 04:49.10 | graywolf336 | shhhhhhhh! :p |
| 04:49.19 | PatrickC_Pre | what? lol |
| 04:49.40 | PatrickC_Pre | the meta-doc is fun :D |
| 04:49.41 | graywolf336 | idk lol but yes i am |
| 04:50.04 | PatrickC_Pre | then meta-doc and enable data in the meta-doc |
| 04:50.58 | graywolf336 | how do you do that? |
| 04:51.01 | PatrickC_Pre | 111 people in here :p |
| 04:51.08 | PatrickC_Pre | rwhitby: ping! |
| 04:51.12 | PatrickC_Pre | oil: ping! |
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| 04:51.21 | PatrickC_Pre | idk these people will know :) |
| 04:52.53 | graywolf336 | i didn't figure anyone in the #webos channel would know |
| 04:53.04 | PatrickC_Pre | they might |
| 04:53.15 | PatrickC_Pre | I'm in that one too, asking |
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| 04:53.37 | graywolf336 | yeah... gonna do some researching |
| 04:53.40 | PatrickC_Pre | cryptk: ping! |
| 04:54.01 | PatrickC_Pre | infobot: MetaDoctor |
| 04:55.18 | PatrickC_Pre | sconix: any meta-doctor experience? |
| 04:56.53 | PatrickC_Pre | graywolf336, wish I could be of more help, but I gotta go to bed |
| 04:57.05 | PatrickC_Pre | talk to yall tomorrow sometime :) |
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| 04:57.46 | PatrickC_Pre | night everyone |
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| 05:11.16 | bhuey | crossfingers for metadoctor to be stable enough to use in a few weeks |
| 05:11.51 | graywolf336 | is there a way to turn the data connection on via novaterm? |
| 05:13.57 | halfhalo | mind blown |
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| 05:44.40 | joebpre | yo |
| 05:45.07 | scoutcamper | hi joebpre |
| 05:46.20 | joebpre | man .. I'm missing 2.1 |
| 05:46.22 | joebpre | lol |
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| 05:49.38 | joebpre | if 1.4.5 had stacks it would rock |
| 05:50.55 | scoutcamper | if HP kept their promises then we would all be running official 2.1 |
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| 05:52.29 | joebpre | yea |
| 05:52.40 | quotemstr | My Sprint original Pre has been stuck for a week on 1x roaming. Any idea what could be wrong? |
| 05:53.03 | joebpre | it's weird going from 2.1 stacks back to 1.4.5 |
| 05:53.10 | scoutcamper | quotemstr, when my vzw pre+ did that i had to do a *228(reprogramming) |
| 05:53.25 | scoutcamper | idk for sprint though |
| 05:54.18 | quotemstr | That does nothing. :-( |
| 05:54.32 | quotemstr | joebpre: I was thinking about metadoctoring up to 2.1. Why go back? |
| 05:54.36 | scoutcamper | yeah, its verizon specefic |
| 05:56.33 | graywolf336 | quotemestr: try ##MSL# but then you have to have a 6 digit lock code from sprint. if i was smart i would have wrote it down |
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| 05:57.03 | scoutcamper | quotemstr, according to what google says *228 and wait 60 seconds works fine |
| 05:58.04 | quotemstr | scoutcamper: Did that (in the dialpad). Nothing visible happened. |
| 05:58.10 | quotemstr | Ahh. |
| 05:58.12 | scoutcamper | hrm |
| 05:58.19 | scoutcamper | is this frankenpre? |
| 05:58.24 | quotemstr | Nope; normal Pre 1.4.latest. |
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| 05:58.50 | scoutcamper | k |
| 05:58.54 | scoutcamper | it should work |
| 05:58.58 | scoutcamper | idk why it isnt |
| 05:59.09 | graywolf336 | sprint? |
| 05:59.29 | scoutcamper | you got an old dumb phone you can change service to, then switch back to pre-? |
| 06:02.53 | quotemstr | scoutcamper: I have another Pre. |
| 06:03.08 | scoutcamper | that works |
| 06:03.23 | quotemstr | So I should go on the website, change service to my old Pre, then change it back to my new Pre? |
| 06:05.16 | scoutcamper | yes |
| 06:05.33 | scoutcamper | but do the full activation process on both |
| 06:05.45 | scoutcamper | dont just switch on web then switch back |
| 06:09.03 | quotemstr | Hrm. I'll give it a shot. |
| 06:09.04 | quotemstr | Thanks. |
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| 06:35.34 | joebpre | never ran this pre at 1ghz |
| 06:39.02 | idontwan2know | any reports on how the crowds at scale are reacting to the demos? |
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| 06:45.13 | djwhitey | rwhitby: i flashed back to 1.4.5 then to 2.1 again without messing with tokens. still getting -20mA when charging. did the 1.4.5 doctor not reset my tokens? is there any way to fix them? |
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| 06:49.33 | djwhitey | i'm thinking the doctors don't mess w/ the tokens at all & i might be SOL |
| 06:50.53 | idontwan2know | doctors don't touch the tokens unless you modify castle.xml, no |
| 06:52.11 | djwhitey | so if I possibly fat-fingered one when i was saving them off, there's no way to recover it if I've already overwritten? |
| 06:53.13 | djwhitey | i.e. I didn't use Show Properties =( |
| 06:54.46 | oil | yeah, the whole reason we made showprops was so people wouldn't mess anything up by misstyping anything |
| 06:56.11 | djwhitey | specifically the ones i think may be wrong is BATToCH/BATToRSP |
| 06:56.16 | djwhitey | s/are/is |
| 06:56.34 | djwhitey | according to http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery they're "mystery" ones... |
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| 06:59.37 | djwhitey | sigh... back to 1.4.5 to see if it keeps draining |
| 07:08.11 | rwhitby | djwhitey: the good news is that you can use any pair of those tokens |
| 07:08.21 | rwhitby | djwhitey: you just need a matching pair |
| 07:09.37 | halfhalo | waves hello |
| 07:09.47 | rwhitby | "BATToCH" = "B22403A2A80C33A3" |
| 07:09.47 | rwhitby | "BATToRSP" = "2EC26121FCDD9A803390EB3F91DE3C422B95DE97" |
| 07:09.50 | rwhitby | djwhitey: use those |
| 07:10.32 | geist | that's the challenge/response it uses to determine if it's a real battery or not |
| 07:10.54 | geist | do you have a 'real' battery? |
| 07:11.27 | geist | or maybe 2.1 reflashed the battery firmware and changed the challenge/response logic, and so they had to change it? |
| 07:12.34 | rwhitby | geist: he hand-copied the response |
| 07:12.45 | halfhalo | ouch |
| 07:12.49 | geist | could be they obsoleted some of the C/R pairs |
| 07:12.56 | geist | and put in a new algorithm on the batteries |
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| 07:13.37 | richajf | anyone here that can help me with something? |
| 07:13.40 | rwhitby | geist: more likely he left off the last couple of digits - many people have done that when copying from the screen |
| 07:13.44 | geist | yah |
| 07:13.55 | richajf | it has to do with save/restore |
| 07:13.55 | geist | you and your occam's razor |
| 07:15.27 | halfhalo | doesn't that ever get dull? |
| 07:15.42 | rwhitby | richajf: shoot |
| 07:15.52 | richajf | every time I try to save application data it throws an error saying permission denied |
| 07:16.50 | rwhitby | richajf: what's different about your device to a standard unmodified one? |
| 07:17.29 | richajf | I'm running uberkernel and have various patches installed. that's about it. |
| 07:17.38 | richajf | on a verizon pre+ |
| 07:18.36 | djwhitey | rwhitby: i was the first to notice ;) |
| 07:18.49 | rwhitby | djwhitey: first to notice what? |
| 07:19.32 | richajf | the files it's saying I don't have permissions to are as follows... |
| 07:19.44 | oil | anyone who can look at the git log can figure it out real fast, haha |
| 07:20.18 | djwhitey | sorry, thought that was _your_ tweet. http://twitter.com/webosinternals |
| 07:20.51 | djwhitey | looks like rouge8 might've beat me to it though. darn |
| 07:21.00 | rwhitby | djwhitey: it was. :) |
| 07:21.17 | richajf | 1: /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/bin/zip/settings.lua |
| 07:21.20 | rwhitby | but no-one could have flashed it that fast, so they cheated. |
| 07:21.30 | halfhalo | uggg... now I have to reflash the two demo devices I have |
| 07:22.18 | richajf | rwhitby: actually it looks like I don't have permissions for that whole directory/path |
| 07:22.32 | djwhitey | i'm re-building it now ... gonna use that token pair you gave me. thanks |
| 07:22.36 | rwhitby | richajf: there is no such file |
| 07:23.19 | halfhalo | ah well, it makes for a good show having them being flashed for everyone to see |
| 07:24.09 | halfhalo | brings in way more people than you would think |
| 07:25.22 | djwhitey | actually, i hand-copied all of the tokens listed in http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-tips-information-resources/259077-pre-plus-sprint-step-step-conversion-guide.html ... hope i didn't muck any others up |
| 07:27.10 | rwhitby | so many times I've asked that guy to change the first post to tell people to use show properties. |
| 07:27.11 | rwhitby | sigh. |
| 07:27.23 | halfhalo | there should be a video of the whole process but with a sprint pre and a pre2 up sometime tomorrow I think |
| 07:27.24 | djwhitey | I wonder if livinofframen might modify his step-by-step: Step 1: Extract working Sprint Pre Tokens to say use Show Properties |
| 07:27.30 | djwhitey | yea |
| 07:27.33 | rwhitby | idiots who put up a step by step on a forum post instead of a wiki page |
| 07:28.06 | rwhitby | idiots because they *never* go back and improve that post |
| 07:28.29 | djwhitey | maybe a mod could copy what he's got to a wiki page, edit his post with a link to it? |
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| 07:30.06 | rwhitby | mods won't do that |
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| 07:30.24 | rwhitby | the mods are the same people who write the front-page articles and don't go back and update them either |
| 07:30.45 | djwhitey | hell, the wiki page is already there: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Move_a_Pre-_to_a_Pre%2B_on_Sprint |
| 07:32.33 | rwhitby | yep, and note that it says to use Show Properties ;) |
| 07:33.44 | oil | xD |
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| 07:37.29 | muesli | http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/236332-very-simple-facebook-chat-patch.html#post2305008 |
| 07:37.36 | muesli | shouldn't this just work with 2.1.0, too? |
| 07:38.22 | NuttyBunny | all the messaging app has changed drastically from 1.x to 2.x |
| 07:38.32 | NuttyBunny | s/all/The entire/ |
| 07:38.35 | muesli | this patches the host file, not the messaging app |
| 07:38.47 | NuttyBunny | ah.. |
| 07:38.48 | NuttyBunny | hehehe |
| 07:39.01 | NuttyBunny | then it should ;) |
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| 07:53.00 | djwhitey | "but then again, carrying around a Pre these days shows a level of platform defiance that isn't for the faint of heart, either, so you're no stranger to bravery." |
| 07:55.16 | oil | haha |
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| 07:56.27 | djwhitey | you see that article on engadget? |
| 07:56.33 | rwhitby | yep |
| 07:56.38 | djwhitey | funny guy |
| 07:57.32 | djwhitey | is that custom boot logo animated? like does it pulse? about to flash with it now using the token pair you gave me for BATT* |
| 08:00.43 | oil | let us know |
| 08:02.18 | djwhitey | batt was getting -20mA when charging in 1.4.5 too so i must've fat-fingered one of BATToCH/BATToRSP |
| 08:02.30 | djwhitey | lesson learned |
| 08:04.43 | NuttyBunny | Hey, is there an easy way to change the locale for a single app? I'm think about the voice dialer, use my Pre with en_mx, but the voice dialer with en_us... Ideas? I've already tried switching files in the language packs, but whenever I do that the voice dialer doesn't run anymore :) |
| 08:05.43 | rwhitby | the initial boot logo doesn't pulse. you can copy it into the root filesystem as well to make it pulse. |
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| 08:06.51 | djwhitey | was j/w. ugh. waiting for battery to get back up to 25% so it'll start flashing |
| 08:08.44 | djwhitey | there it goes |
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| 08:51.25 | djwhitey | omg it's charging now. rwhitby. THANK YOU |
| 08:51.36 | djwhitey | s/,/. |
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| 10:16.52 | Boopop | Anyone else having any problems with fb contact syncing on 2.1.0? |
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| 13:06.10 | danilos | has anyone played with using any bdb (berkeley DB) tools to access the webOS 2 DB? |
| 13:10.25 | danilos | using "db4.8_dump -p" prints a lot of \4 and \2 bytes, so I assume that has a special meaning for webOS |
| 13:22.45 | Boopop | Anyone had any success with synergy on 2.1.0? |
| 13:22.51 | Boopop | I can't get fb to work =/ |
| 13:22.57 | Boopop | fb contacts that is |
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| 14:25.28 | admiral0 | hello sleeping beauties |
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| 14:35.26 | rwhitby | no sleep for the wicked |
| 14:36.48 | mawulil | rwhitby, being trying to get the latest alpha version of linphone. can you help |
| 14:37.20 | rwhitby | what device and sip provider? |
| 14:38.58 | mawulil | sip provider is draytel.org. currently using utstarcom gf210 as a client device. want to use it on uk palm pre. |
| 14:39.13 | rwhitby | mawulil: see /msg and report in PreCentral thread |
| 14:39.26 | rwhitby | bbt |
| 14:41.56 | mawulil | rwhitby, thx will do. |
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| 14:52.39 | Boopop | What does it mean that my palm profile on the site still says 1.4.5? |
| 14:52.53 | Boopop | As in, I have 2.1.0 on my pre - and it seems to be working fine |
| 14:52.55 | Boopop | I can see paid apps |
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| 14:56.29 | admiral0 | i've tried a few patches on my pre 2 |
| 14:56.57 | admiral0 | only "just charge by default" works as expected |
| 14:57.17 | admiral0 | the rest fuck up the system and i need doctoring... |
| 15:00.48 | Boopop | Eek, I'm sick of doctoring now admiral0...guess I won't be trying out any patches that haven't been tested! xD |
| 15:01.12 | Boopop | Are your fb contacts syncing? mine aren't =( |
| 15:13.30 | RagingMind | facebook doesn't sync much by default, did you go into accounts and enable contacts for facebook? |
| 15:13.40 | haeffb | rwhitby: I have read the forum threads on pre- to pre2, read the pre- to pre+ wosi wiki, have disassembled and (mostly correctly) reassembled a pre-. I see that a video of the process may be coming later today. I have my tokens file. What else do I need to sprintify the pre 2? |
| 15:14.37 | haeffb | the cdma -> gprs thing sounds like it makes things a bit more difficult, hardware-wise. |
| 15:14.52 | MetaView | hi |
| 15:15.10 | haeffb | hi |
| 15:15.11 | MetaView | admiral0: found the problem in Terminus |
| 15:15.20 | admiral0 | and? |
| 15:15.23 | admiral0 | what was it? |
| 15:15.51 | MetaView | you need to add a special jailer for it |
| 15:16.05 | MetaView | echo 5670:5000:${PID}:/dev/null:/etc/jail_native-palm.conf >> /var/palm/data/jailusers |
| 15:16.23 | admiral0 | oh |
| 15:16.26 | MetaView | you might need to delete the old entry in the file afterwards |
| 15:16.45 | admiral0 | :${ |
| 15:16.47 | MetaView | the type "game" has different jail settings than before |
| 15:17.06 | MetaView | that's why Terminus runs now in a jail |
| 15:17.18 | admiral0 | poor Terminux |
| 15:17.27 | MetaView | with the entry 5670:5000:${PID}:/dev/null:/etc/jail_native-palm.conf you free it again |
| 15:17.34 | admiral0 | s/inux/uins/ |
| 15:17.49 | admiral0 | oh fuck it, i'm still sleepy -.- |
| 15:17.52 | MetaView | one could of course edit the /etc/jail_game.conf file |
| 15:18.18 | MetaView | but it will affect all apps with type game |
| 15:19.24 | admiral0 | we need a way to escape jail |
| 15:19.37 | admiral0 | no jail for homebrew |
| 15:20.31 | bpadalino | if you echo something like pardon somewhere, then everything runs outside the jail |
| 15:20.32 | admiral0 | :\ |
| 15:20.44 | admiral0 | hmm |
| 15:20.51 | admiral0 | that's not safe |
| 15:20.58 | bpadalino | echo pardon > /etc/nojail |
| 15:21.02 | admiral0 | i said some BS sorry |
| 15:21.27 | admiral0 | hmm nice |
| 15:21.47 | bpadalino | if you want a single thing, look at how preware does it .. i believe it runs unjailed while other things are jailed |
| 15:21.58 | bpadalino | single non-jailed js services i think are still a mystery now |
| 15:22.33 | admiral0 | i have a guide for setting up novacom on archlinux |
| 15:23.06 | bpadalino | wiki is a good place to stash i |
| 15:23.06 | bpadalino | t |
| 15:23.19 | admiral0 | :D |
| 15:23.21 | admiral0 | sure |
| 15:23.41 | admiral0 | novacom needs ubuntu's libusb |
| 15:23.59 | Boopop | RagingMind: Oops, took my time to reply - Yep, I've done that =/ |
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| 15:24.48 | admiral0 | is installing terminus |
| 15:25.17 | admiral0 | also all java services don't work any more |
| 15:25.23 | admiral0 | finally |
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| 15:27.58 | admiral0 | MetaView: your command doesn't work |
| 15:28.40 | MetaView | have you made the drive writable? |
| 15:28.53 | admiral0 | pre2 has it writeable by default |
| 15:28.59 | MetaView | what? |
| 15:29.00 | MetaView | no |
| 15:29.10 | MetaView | you need mount -o rw,remount / |
| 15:29.57 | admiral0 | lol |
| 15:30.04 | admiral0 | was writing on tmpfs |
| 15:30.08 | RagingMind | whenever I run mount to check my file systems root is always rw |
| 15:30.11 | RagingMind | was on 1.4.5 |
| 15:30.22 | RagingMind | unless there's a magic line that I was missing |
| 15:30.29 | RagingMind | *was on 1.4.5 too |
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| 15:30.48 | admiral0 | MetaView: edited existing entry |
| 15:30.53 | admiral0 | now works |
| 15:30.54 | admiral0 | :D |
| 15:34.06 | MetaView | fine :) |
| 15:35.10 | MetaView | no Terminus needs support for meta-tap as ctrl |
| 15:35.32 | MetaView | but I could get it compile here |
| 15:37.52 | admiral0 | is pplaying with widk |
| 15:38.16 | admiral0 | using 2.0.1 doctor :O |
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| 15:46.19 | admiral0 | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_archlinux |
| 15:46.20 | admiral0 | :D |
| 16:04.27 | Boopop | Can anyone tell me what's wrong with having my palm profile on the site as still at 1.4.5? |
| 16:04.33 | Boopop | As in, how should it affect me? |
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| 16:22.16 | RagingMind | admiral0, you inspired me to make a wiki page |
| 16:22.30 | RagingMind | for debian people: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_Debian |
| 16:23.09 | RagingMind | Boopop, it will limit the apps you see in the catalog to the ones that will work on 1.4.5 |
| 16:23.28 | Boopop | thought that might be it |
| 16:23.33 | Boopop | any way of fixing it? |
| 16:23.45 | Boopop | I bet you'll tell me I'd have to re-doctor |
| 16:24.31 | RagingMind | what device/carrier/country? |
| 16:25.11 | RagingMind | unless you're on a pre2 or on a pre (O2 germany) that got the official update, last I knew there was no way to fix that |
| 16:26.41 | Boopop | RagingMind: Pre - O2(UK) |
| 16:27.21 | RagingMind | did you get an official update from HPalm? I'm not all that familiar with who in Europe got it |
| 16:27.33 | Boopop | it's just O2 Germany that dished it out |
| 16:27.45 | Boopop | O2 UK said they would "soon" on twitter 4 days ago |
| 16:27.47 | Boopop | I gave up on them tbh |
| 16:28.18 | RagingMind | then you could try to sign in and update your profile, but you run the risk of trashing your palm profile |
| 16:28.40 | Boopop | update it? |
| 16:29.14 | RagingMind | not totally trashing... but it could be recognized as an invalid combination of device/version/carrier and then you'd get an error that locks out out from all paid apps |
| 16:29.40 | Boopop | How do you mean update? I've signed into my normal palm profile on 2.1.0 |
| 16:29.56 | Boopop | How do you update it? |
| 16:30.09 | admiral0 | is doing the PKGBUILD for scratchbox2 |
| 16:30.48 | RagingMind | Boopop, did you use metadoctor and what script did you run if so? |
| 16:31.07 | Boopop | yes and the wr scipt |
| 16:31.10 | Boopop | script* |
| 16:31.41 | RagingMind | were you following the wiki page? |
| 16:32.01 | Boopop | indeed |
| 16:32.20 | RagingMind | including step 5 for "Restore palm-build-info" ? |
| 16:34.20 | RagingMind | that's the file that tricks your pre and palm into thinking it's still 1.4.5, but the update to your profile is only triggered when you first log into the device (when you activate it) |
| 16:34.52 | RagingMind | so if you replace that file (like in step 5) with the real one for 2.1 and then you log into your profile... it'll try to update you to 2.1 |
| 16:34.53 | Boopop | Can you link me up to the wiki page? I'm struggling to find it >.< |
| 16:35.05 | RagingMind | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade |
| 16:35.08 | Boopop | thanks |
| 16:35.34 | Boopop | Yup I remember doing those novacom commands in linux |
| 16:35.35 | RagingMind | but if your country doesn't have the update yet it WILL read as an invalid combination |
| 16:36.03 | RagingMind | and your profile will be set to version 9.9.9 and you won't get access to any paid apps at all |
| 16:36.06 | Boopop | So...your advice is to leave as is for the moment? |
| 16:36.12 | RagingMind | for now |
| 16:36.27 | RagingMind | if o2 says uk is getting the update soon... then just wait for that |
| 16:36.41 | RagingMind | you're only missing access to like 3 or 5 apps at the moment anyway |
| 16:36.44 | Boopop | will that work though? Given that I have a Pre - and it'll be for the Pre + |
| 16:37.08 | RagingMind | I heard from people in germany that it didn't care that they had a pre- |
| 16:37.30 | RagingMind | they still had to use metadoctor to get it ON their phone, but they could update their profile to 2.1.0 and it worked |
| 16:37.36 | Boopop | yeah |
| 16:37.40 | Boopop | hmm OK :) |
| 16:37.44 | Boopop | Thanks for the info |
| 16:37.57 | RagingMind | I don't have any personal experience with that though, so when it's time I suggest pestering one of the .de people that hang out in here |
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| 16:38.47 | Boopop | It's working perfectly for me now |
| 16:38.56 | Boopop | other than what we just discussed obv. |
| 16:39.12 | Boopop | couldn't get fb contacts synced earlier but that seems to have fixed itself |
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| 16:39.52 | joebpre | yo |
| 16:39.59 | RagingMind | it takes a while for the sync to run in the background. the other option is to manually trigger a sync |
| 16:40.15 | Boopop | o hi joebpre |
| 16:40.50 | joebpre | man.. I wanna go back to 2.1 but I'm lovin being coverclockef at 1ghz on 1.4.5 |
| 16:43.55 | joebpre | stacks is drawing me :-) |
| 16:45.55 | Boopop | i want flickr integration for the photo app on 2.1...then the exhibition mode would be better me thinks |
| 16:45.56 | RagingMind | I'm never ever gonna give up my stacks |
| 16:45.57 | Boopop | for me at least |
| 16:46.40 | RagingMind | if it's not integrated into the OS/photos app, I'm sure most flickr apps will eventually include exhibition |
| 16:46.47 | joebpre | :) |
| 16:47.03 | Boopop | Yeah I'd hope so! xD |
| 16:47.12 | Boopop | the thing is |
| 16:47.23 | Boopop | I've relied on my pre as a clock since I got it |
| 16:47.40 | Boopop | so as nice as exhibition mode is, I fear the most practical use will still be the clock xD |
| 16:47.41 | joebpre | I can't take it I'm going to go back to 2.1 .. I will actually try the script rwhitby put up :) after all engadget is raving about it |
| 16:48.42 | RagingMind | Boopop, I'm hoping for some awesome clock apps to come out to take advantage of it |
| 16:48.51 | RagingMind | a steampunk clock would be nifty |
| 16:49.01 | Boopop | yeah |
| 16:49.14 | Boopop | Maybe I need to get a touchpad for the photos |
| 16:49.16 | Boopop | :P |
| 16:49.28 | Boopop | World's most expensive LCD photo frame |
| 16:50.29 | RagingMind | I want a folding at home or an electric sheep app that ties into exhibition |
| 16:50.40 | RagingMind | if I knew more about coding I'd try one myself |
| 16:51.25 | RagingMind | tempting to teach myself on a project like that too, but other things I gotta do first |
| 16:52.05 | joebpre | what if you could dual boot 1.4.5 and 2.1 |
| 16:52.32 | RagingMind | I have no interest in 1.4.5 anymore |
| 16:53.00 | joebpre | wow .. RagingMind that addict I see |
| 16:53.18 | RagingMind | 1.4.5 doesn't actually offer anything over 2.1 |
| 16:53.35 | RagingMind | sure there's over clocking, but soon the source will be out and 2.1 will get that as well |
| 16:54.00 | joebpre | atm RagingMind it offers a oveeclocked kernel :-) .. yes I know not for long |
| 16:54.59 | RagingMind | I never bothered overclocking mine on 1.4.5 either... could never justify the hit to battery life |
| 16:55.18 | RagingMind | okay... I did over clock... to try it. so I suppose I can't say never |
| 16:56.39 | joebpre | RagingMind: there is a cure to the 1.4.5 battery .. it's called turn off data |
| 16:56.43 | joebpre | period! |
| 16:57.54 | oc80z | whats good |
| 17:00.42 | halfhalo | need cooooooke |
| 17:01.07 | scoutcamper | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.22 | halfhalo | booo coffee |
| 17:01.55 | scoutcamper | coffee is the elixer of life! |
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| 17:10.41 | eliasp | hi |
| 17:11.06 | Josef_B | RagingMind you tried the flash guide yet ? |
| 17:11.27 | eliasp | since quite some time, my Pre (webOS 1.4.5) doesn't show up as block device anymore when connecting it through USB to my laptop.... what could I have accidentally changed to cause this behaviour? |
| 17:11.41 | eliasp | block device â mountable USB volume |
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| 17:12.48 | scoutcamper | eliasp, more details please |
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| 17:14.49 | eliasp | scoutcamper: the only thing I see happening in dmesg (on the laptop) when plugging it in is: http://paste.kde.org/6008 ... on the Pre, nothing happens besides it starts charging the battery... but no dialog asking for what to do etc. as it used to do... |
| 17:15.26 | scoutcamper | interesting' |
| 17:15.29 | eliasp | scoutcamper: it doesn't matter to which laptop/PC I connect it to... it must be a Pre/webOS issue/misconfiguration... |
| 17:15.43 | eliasp | I'm wondering whether I caused this by playing around with the USB passthrough app |
| 17:16.05 | scoutcamper | so have something that is installed that is not letting /media/internal/ unmount |
| 17:16.21 | scoutcamper | what did you do with usb passthrough? |
| 17:17.24 | eliasp | I don't remember... it's ~4.5 months ago I used it... just wanted to access it via USB now to backup some data before playing around with the 2.1.0 update... |
| 17:17.44 | eliasp | but I think I'll just do it via WiFi... 2.1.0 will hopefully reset this USB state |
| 17:17.46 | scoutcamper | so open usb passthrough app |
| 17:18.15 | eliasp | the USB passthrough app shows all settings as 'None' and 'Use USBNet' is disabled |
| 17:18.23 | scoutcamper | k |
| 17:18.48 | scoutcamper | then unless you installed the first alpha of optware bootstrap, idk |
| 17:18.52 | eliasp | oh, just switched ACM to DUN and back to None and now it magically works again ;-) |
| 17:19.05 | scoutcamper | good! |
| 17:19.07 | eliasp | wee |
| 17:19.10 | eliasp | thx anyways ;-) |
| 17:19.19 | scoutcamper | no prob |
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| 17:28.08 | RagingMind | Josef_B, yes I have flash working |
| 17:28.12 | RagingMind | it's... slow |
| 17:28.20 | RagingMind | and the install is a bit ghetto |
| 17:28.29 | Josef_B | lol |
| 17:28.29 | RagingMind | bbl... |
| 17:29.14 | RagingMind | the package directions don't work right out of the box. I have no idea what it's doing, but it'll fail a couple times then magically work |
| 17:29.50 | RagingMind | so I'm definitely doctoring my phone sometime when things get ironed out... just as a clean up |
| 17:29.50 | RagingMind | now I'll bbl |
| 17:38.30 | eliasp | I've read somewhere, that updating a Pre- to 2.1.0 on o2 Germany works without b0rking the profile.. can anyone confirm this? |
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| 17:45.58 | scoutcamper | welcome internals-scale |
| 17:49.05 | internals-scale | urg |
| 17:49.42 | Josef_B | wow that bad internals-scale "D |
| 17:49.58 | scoutcamper | urg? |
| 17:50.24 | internals-scale | sleeeeeep |
| 17:51.38 | scoutcamper | whats wrong with living on 1hr of sleep ? |
| 17:52.25 | halfhalo | I get homicidal |
| 17:52.44 | Josef_B | lol |
| 17:53.24 | scoutcamper | halfhalo, you still need to kill Jack867 acn cryptk |
| 17:53.37 | scoutcamper | s/acn/and/ |
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| 18:39.00 | eliasp | hmm, doctor doesn't find my device, although novacomd is running: http://paste.kde.org/6013/ |
| 18:39.44 | Josef_B | eliasp does your device have devloper mode on ? |
| 18:39.53 | eliasp | Josef_B: yes |
| 18:39.57 | Josef_B | have you tried to put your device in recovery mode then run doctor ? |
| 18:40.32 | eliasp | hmm, no.... didn't know of a recovery mode yet... let's see |
| 18:41.18 | Josef_B | yea |
| 18:42.16 | Josef_B | http://www.palm.com/us/support/downloads/pre/recoverytool/webosdoctor_faq_carrier_en.html < -- recovery mode toward bottom |
| 18:42.25 | eliasp | Josef_B: yes, just reading this |
| 18:42.27 | eliasp | thx |
| 18:42.33 | Josef_B | once n recovery mode then run doctor |
| 18:44.33 | Josef_B | eliasp also http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover |
| 18:44.49 | Josef_B | that is extrmee |
| 18:44.50 | Josef_B | lol |
| 18:45.32 | eliasp | weird, it's the same in recovery mode... something with novacomd must be borked |
| 18:45.42 | Josef_B | ok |
| 18:45.44 | eliasp | novaterm says "unable to find device" |
| 18:45.51 | Josef_B | huh |
| 18:45.57 | Josef_B | your not running novaterm right now |
| 18:46.00 | Josef_B | don't worry about it |
| 18:46.04 | Josef_B | when in recovery just run the doctor |
| 18:46.13 | Josef_B | if it fails reboot computer and device and try again |
| 18:47.24 | Josef_B | eliasp you on windows ? |
| 18:47.30 | eliasp | Josef_B: no, Gentoo Linux |
| 18:47.39 | Josef_B | OMG! gentoo |
| 18:47.42 | Josef_B | you must be a coder |
| 18:47.50 | eliasp | yes, I actually am |
| 18:47.51 | eliasp | ;) |
| 18:48.11 | Josef_B | wow brave man .. i used to be a distro junkie flashing all kinds of distros .. i never touched gentoo |
| 18:48.16 | eliasp | gnah, I hate it when applications don't have a debug mode (speaking of novacomd) |
| 18:48.23 | Josef_B | its like .. why do i have to compile everything i want to run |
| 18:48.38 | eliasp | Josef_B: running Gentoo since 9 years on just everything .... even my Openmoko Freerunner runs Gentoo |
| 18:49.10 | Josef_B | even the livecd was crazy |
| 18:49.18 | eliasp | Josef_B: it makes sense for me to compile everything, but for user Joe it might not make sense at all... I need Gentoo's flexibility for most of my work |
| 18:49.29 | eliasp | the Gentoo LiveCD doesn't make sense at all to me... it just nonsense |
| 18:50.29 | scoutcamper | ubuntu ftw! |
| 18:50.42 | eliasp | :) |
| 18:50.42 | Josef_B | i settled on ubuntu |
| 18:50.58 | Josef_B | :P im tired of ubuntu and want to try fedora :P |
| 18:51.03 | eliasp | yes, a lot do... and so do all the PCs of my friends/relatives... it just doesn't make sense for such setups to run Gentoo |
| 18:51.06 | Josef_B | probably cause i have 4 kids and a wife now and don't have time |
| 18:51.33 | Josef_B | works from home |
| 18:51.53 | eliasp | 2 |
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| 18:53.24 | eliasp | hmm, retrying to get novacomd working later... have to leave now and head back home... thx so far! |
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| 18:57.39 | PatrickC_Pre | what's up? |
| 18:58.44 | scoutcamper | up is the opposite of down |
| 18:59.08 | scoutcamper | :D |
| 18:59.17 | PatrickC_Pre | hay scout |
| 18:59.24 | PatrickC_Pre | how's it goin? lol |
| 18:59.39 | scoutcamper | good |
| 18:59.40 | PatrickC_Pre | 100% of lottery winners gain weight |
| 18:59.46 | scoutcamper | lolz |
| 19:00.04 | PatrickC_Pre | yea... 5000 unless facts FTW! |
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| 19:00.42 | scoutcamper | ~lart PatrickC_Pre |
| 19:00.42 | infobot | whacks PatrickC_Pre upside the head |
| 19:00.57 | scoutcamper | because i can :D |
| 19:01.55 | PatrickC_Pre | ~lart scoutcamper |
| 19:01.55 | infobot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps scoutcamper |
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| 19:02.07 | PatrickC_Pre | back atcha! lol |
| 19:02.13 | scoutcamper | indeed |
| 19:02.40 | scoutcamper | wonders how busy internals-scale is today? |
| 19:10.03 | internals-scale | rick is talking to everyone atm |
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| 19:11.27 | Josef_B | wow .. that webos 2.0 script is smooeth .. bettery then creating my own doctor again :P to smooth |
| 19:11.29 | Josef_B | :D |
| 19:12.39 | scoutcamper | internals-scale, will the sprintification be live streamed? |
| 19:13.12 | Josef_B | whatever happend to the sprint announcement |
| 19:13.26 | Josef_B | hahah |
| 19:13.37 | Josef_B | #webos-internals boot screen replaced palms :D |
| 19:13.51 | Josef_B | i wonder if that is the easter egg |
| 19:14.01 | scoutcamper | it was |
| 19:14.06 | Josef_B | :D |
| 19:14.32 | scoutcamper | br(reboot) |
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| 19:20.53 | Josef_B | scoutcamper it only comes up 1 time |
| 19:21.02 | Josef_B | scoutcamper its only a 1 time thing at boot ? |
| 19:27.20 | Josef_B | ha .. palm profile shows 1.40.50 |
| 19:30.13 | scoutcamper | idk(my 2.1 device is not near me) |
| 19:39.37 | halfhalo | yawns |
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| 19:42.01 | graywolf336 | is there a way to stop the data connection and then restart it via terminal? |
| 19:57.05 | Josef_B | graywolf336 i would answer but i don't know the answer :D |
| 19:57.22 | Josef_B | whats doe the temrinal app depend on .. i had it working on 1.4.5 |
| 19:57.28 | Josef_B | on 2.1 it just shows black screen |
| 19:57.33 | graywolf336 | Josef_B: It's the thought that matters :p |
| 19:57.45 | graywolf336 | i was more or less talking about on a computer in the device |
| 19:57.52 | graywolf336 | i don't know.. |
| 19:57.55 | wgreenhouse | graywolf336: huh? |
| 19:58.21 | wgreenhouse | graywolf336: the phone's data connection seems to be network device ppp0 |
| 19:58.40 | wgreenhouse | so you should be able to do ifconfig ppp0 down && ifconfig ppp0 up |
| 19:58.43 | wgreenhouse | or something like that |
| 19:58.44 | graywolf336 | wgreenhouse: Ok.. is there a way to disable it then enable it again? |
| 19:58.52 | graywolf336 | ok i'll try it thanks |
| 20:00.19 | scoutcamper | Josef_B, terminal app is not 2.x compatible |
| 20:00.41 | scoutcamper | Josef_B, if you really need terminal you can build secure shell |
| 20:01.23 | scoutcamper | if you are on a linux box i can tell you how |
| 20:02.01 | Josef_B | its coo .. |
| 20:02.04 | Josef_B | just wondering |
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| 20:15.19 | internals-scale | wahahaha |
| 20:15.52 | scoutcamper | internals-scale, ? |
| 20:16.48 | internals-scale | yes |
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| 20:17.42 | scoutcamper | will the sprint-ification be livestreamed? |
| 20:18.04 | internals-scale | no |
| 20:18.16 | scoutcamper | :( |
| 20:18.17 | scoutcamper | ok |
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| 20:21.08 | scoinva | hello. I have a quick question. |
| 20:21.31 | scoinva | I'm trying to update to 2.1. Do I just run webosdoctorp102verizonwireless.jar? |
| 20:21.44 | scoutcamper | no |
| 20:21.45 | etx` | no |
| 20:22.04 | Josef_B | no need to http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade |
| 20:22.06 | Josef_B | all your needs |
| 20:22.14 | scoinva | I on step 4 |
| 20:22.20 | scoinva | *I'm* |
| 20:22.25 | scoinva | sorry.. #3 |
| 20:22.33 | Josef_B | scoinva the script does it all |
| 20:22.51 | Josef_B | it should have started scoinva |
| 20:22.52 | *** join/#webos-internals ensign (~wircer@cpc1-aztw14-0-0-cust321.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:22.52 | *** join/#webos-internals opie_ (opie_@wireless-165-124-215-166.nuwlan.northwestern.edu) |
| 20:23.02 | scoutcamper | and when its done the doctor auto-runs |
| 20:23.33 | Josef_B | if it doesn't start go to that directory where you see the .jar and run java -jar webosdoctorfilenamehere.jar |
| 20:24.08 | scoutcamper | under the build directory in the meta-doctor directory |
| 20:25.05 | scoinva | webosdoctorp102verizonwireless.jar is running now. |
| 20:25.48 | *** part/#webos-internals ensign (~wircer@cpc1-aztw14-0-0-cust321.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:26.14 | scoinva | the meta doctor says I have to run from a VM in windows. |
| 20:26.47 | Josef_B | scoinva are you on linux ? |
| 20:26.58 | scoinva | no |
| 20:27.16 | scoutcamper | then yes, that is true |
| 20:27.45 | scoinva | the instructions let me think there's much more to it. :/ |
| 20:28.13 | scoutcamper | scoinva, are you in a VM? |
| 20:28.20 | scoinva | no |
| 20:28.54 | scoinva | I have virtual box |
| 20:29.01 | scoinva | if I need to run it. |
| 20:29.03 | scoutcamper | scoinva, you need to have a VM of linux(preferably ubuntu) going |
| 20:29.09 | scoutcamper | virtual box works |
| 20:29.39 | scoinva | wow. that.... ah.... is painful. |
| 20:30.13 | scoutcamper | the price you pay for bleeding edge software |
| 20:33.11 | scoinva | I'm going down the Cygwin path |
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| 20:42.38 | dumbledore | sup |
| 20:44.09 | Josef_B | yo |
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| 20:45.26 | *** mode/#webos-internals [+v linuxjacques] by ChanServ |
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| 20:54.24 | MetaView | scoinva: does it work for you? |
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| 20:58.37 | djwhitey | hmm.. ##786# -> Reset resulated in activation error on already-activated 2.1'd Pre- |
| 21:00.29 | djwhitey | thought it might be because of unmasqued palm-build-info, so replaced with masqued one... still same error though. looks like it's gonna be flash back to 1.4.5 then to 2.1 |
| 21:01.08 | MetaView | my Pre - doesn't flash back |
| 21:01.36 | djwhitey | MetaView why not? did you jack w/ tokens or anything? |
| 21:01.52 | MetaView | nope |
| 21:02.02 | MetaView | just a normal MetaDoctor without device check |
| 21:02.21 | djwhitey | what about a stock one? |
| 21:02.28 | MetaView | and it starts flashing but after 50% it stops and tells me it can't reflash the device |
| 21:02.30 | djwhitey | i.e. webosdoctorp100ewwsprint-1.4.5.jar |
| 21:02.37 | MetaView | and i should talk to Palm support |
| 21:02.51 | MetaView | the stock one doesn't flash on Pre - |
| 21:04.31 | djwhitey | my Pre- has been back & forth from 1.4.5 to 2.1 so many times in the last few days it doesn't know what it is anymore |
| 21:04.33 | datafirm | hello |
| 21:04.38 | djwhitey | hi danilos |
| 21:04.47 | danilos | djwhitey, hi |
| 21:04.50 | djwhitey | s/datafirm/dnilos |
| 21:04.52 | djwhitey | =) |
| 21:04.52 | MetaView | hm, then it must be something on my end |
| 21:05.03 | danilos | :) |
| 21:05.09 | MetaView | :( |
| 21:05.16 | datafirm | interested in testing linphone with my asterisk server. anyone around to help me alpha test? |
| 21:05.18 | djwhitey | MetaView: what O/S are you running the jar from? |
| 21:05.28 | MetaView | WinXP |
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| 21:05.44 | djwhitey | x86 or x64? |
| 21:05.52 | djwhitey | not that it should matter all _that_ much |
| 21:06.02 | MetaView | x86 |
| 21:06.09 | MetaView | and service pack 3 |
| 21:06.12 | *** join/#webos-internals PatrickC_Pre (~Patrick_C@unaffiliated/patrick-c/x-9440769) |
| 21:06.21 | MetaView | don't think it maters much |
| 21:06.21 | djwhitey | and going to a Sprint Pre-? |
| 21:06.30 | MetaView | nope, O2 Pre - |
| 21:06.36 | MetaView | German, one of the first |
| 21:06.41 | djwhitey | hmm, that i know much less about |
| 21:06.51 | PatrickC_Pre | what's goin on? |
| 21:06.51 | djwhitey | but there's a stock 1.4.5 doctor for it right? |
| 21:07.22 | Josef_B | always |
| 21:07.45 | MetaView | yes, ther is |
| 21:07.47 | PatrickC_Pre | hay josef_b |
| 21:07.49 | MetaView | there |
| 21:07.52 | MetaView | and it fails |
| 21:07.58 | Josef_B | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions |
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| 21:08.02 | Josef_B | you PatrickC_Pre |
| 21:08.17 | MetaView | well, but anyway, the clock isn't working correctly, and I have a Pre2 now |
| 21:08.18 | Josef_B | PatrickC_Pre im back on 2.1 .. i missed stacks to much :D |
| 21:08.26 | MetaView | Pre2, very nice device |
| 21:08.28 | PatrickC_Pre | lol |
| 21:08.32 | PatrickC_Pre | 2.1 rocks |
| 21:09.56 | MetaView | stocks doesn't work well, when you rather want to open things in the background |
| 21:10.01 | MetaView | like browser |
| 21:11.16 | PatrickC_Pre | during your lifetime you'll eat approximately 60,000 pounds of food |
| 21:12.45 | PatrickC_Pre | Al Capone's business card said he was a used furniture dealer |
| 21:14.17 | Josef_B | MetaView your doing doctor in recovery mode ? |
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| 21:15.09 | bjawebos | ~seen rwhitby |
| 21:15.22 | infobot | rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 145 messages. Is idling for 6h 36m 9s, last said: 'mawulil: see /msg and report in PreCentral thread'. |
| 21:15.22 | *** join/#webos-internals roxfan (dunno@91.180.185.100) |
| 21:15.47 | Josef_B | nice |
| 21:15.54 | Josef_B | ~seen Josef_B |
| 21:15.55 | infobot | josef_b is currently on #webos-internals (4h 10m 43s). Has said a total of 56 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Josef_B'. |
| 21:16.25 | PatrickC_Pre | ~seen PatrickC_Pre |
| 21:16.26 | infobot | patrickc_pre is currently on #webos-internals (10m 14s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen PatrickC_Pre'. |
| 21:16.54 | MetaView | Josef_B: yes, recovery mode |
| 21:17.15 | MetaView | ~seen metaview |
| 21:17.17 | infobot | metaview is currently on #webos-internals (6h 25m 58s). Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen metaview'. |
| 21:17.48 | *** part/#webos-internals bjawebos (~bjawebos@cmnz-4db372df.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:18.40 | *** join/#webos-internals dumbledore_xp (~fudge@ool-18baa037.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:18.58 | dumbledore_xp | i fixed my phones vibrator |
| 21:19.04 | Josef_B | wow |
| 21:19.07 | Josef_B | sounds personal |
| 21:19.07 | PatrickC_Pre | wow... lol |
| 21:19.13 | dumbledore_xp | lol |
| 21:19.15 | dumbledore_xp | wut |
| 21:19.22 | dumbledore_xp | all phones have a vibrator |
| 21:19.55 | Josef_B | dumbledore_xp its the way you came in and said it |
| 21:19.56 | Josef_B | :D |
| 21:19.59 | MetaView | s/phones/wifes |
| 21:20.03 | dumbledore_xp | lol |
| 21:20.05 | Josef_B | lol MetaView |
| 21:20.09 | scoutcamper | ... |
| 21:20.11 | MetaView | it wasn't me |
| 21:20.34 | dumbledore_xp | along with that, i fixed the sticky power button |
| 21:20.39 | PatrickC_Pre | it is illegal to have a pet dog in Iceland |
| 21:20.50 | dumbledore_xp | i dont see why it would be |
| 21:20.58 | MetaView | who is from iceland? |
| 21:21.21 | PatrickC_Pre | one of the 5000 useless facts :p |
| 21:23.00 | djwhitey | ~seen djwhitey_pre |
| 21:23.03 | infobot | djwhitey_pre <~wircer@99-64-58-60.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 1d 17h 38m 47s ago, saying: 'any way disable notifications from Software Manager? Don't see anything in prefs'. |
| 21:23.26 | djwhitey | oh yea. is there a way to disable those notifications? |
| 21:23.32 | Josef_B | what are the command for the bot ? |
| 21:23.39 | Josef_B | ~help |
| 21:23.43 | Josef_B | ok |
| 21:23.44 | Josef_B | nvm |
| 21:23.44 | Josef_B | :D |
| 21:24.00 | PatrickC_Pre | ~hit Josef_B |
| 21:24.00 | infobot | ACTION kicks Josef_B. |
| 21:24.18 | dumbledore_xp | http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh274/RobertR_93/CIMG0001-1.jpg?t=1298841841 |
| 21:24.25 | dumbledore_xp | my two pre's disassembled :3 |
| 21:24.32 | djwhitey | ~upsidedown i like to move it move it |
| 21:24.48 | djwhitey | aww |
| 21:24.58 | dumbledore_xp | it took me 45 minutes to dismantle one pre, took me 5 minutes to do the other :3 |
| 21:25.01 | Josef_B | ~whois djwhitey |
| 21:25.07 | Josef_B | FAIL! |
| 21:25.07 | djwhitey | ~wtfd |
| 21:25.07 | infobot | d is Soraya_'s unique version of the n disease. There is no cure. |
| 21:25.09 | djwhitey | ~wtf |
| 21:25.19 | MetaView | will it blend? |
| 21:25.20 | djwhitey | ~wtf iirc |
| 21:25.25 | djwhitey | ~wtf rgr |
| 21:25.38 | PatrickC_Pre | ~hit djwhitney |
| 21:25.38 | infobot | ACTION slaps djwhitney. |
| 21:25.43 | MetaView | ~wtf wtf |
| 21:26.11 | scoutcamper | guys! you can /msg infobot and play with it privately, dont clutter the public channel |
| 21:26.21 | MetaView | [22:26] infobot: exceeded allowed forked count (shm 34308110): upsidedown, wtf |
| 21:26.34 | djwhitey | has no 'n' in his nick |
| 21:26.54 | *** join/#webos-internals torchie (~torchie@node148.seg38.ucf.edu) |
| 21:27.12 | PatrickC_Pre | ok one more scout |
| 21:27.20 | PatrickC_Pre | ~hit torchie |
| 21:27.20 | infobot | ACTION slaps torchie. |
| 21:27.28 | torchie | dies. |
| 21:27.31 | torchie | I have a hypothesis |
| 21:27.34 | torchie | or a theory |
| 21:27.36 | torchie | or a thought |
| 21:27.49 | PatrickC_Pre | what? please share |
| 21:28.02 | torchie | the doctor is for the o2 germany pre plus right? |
| 21:28.08 | MetaView | good doesn't exist |
| 21:28.09 | PatrickC_Pre | yep |
| 21:28.12 | Josef_B | depends if you want it to be torchie |
| 21:28.14 | Josef_B | :D |
| 21:28.17 | torchie | lol |
| 21:28.38 | torchie | does germany have volume limiting laws for portable music players, phones etc |
| 21:28.49 | torchie | I remember there being parts of the EU where they had that apparently |
| 21:28.53 | MetaView | I don't know |
| 21:28.56 | Josef_B | dunno |
| 21:29.06 | dumbledore_xp | ~hit Josef_B |
| 21:29.07 | infobot | ACTION punches Josef_B. |
| 21:29.10 | dumbledore_xp | ;o |
| 21:29.11 | MetaView | we have many laws |
| 21:29.34 | PatrickC_Pre | ~/msg PatrickC_Pre |
| 21:29.35 | MetaView | but about the volume of mp3 players? |
| 21:30.00 | Josef_B | use your headphones torchie ? |
| 21:30.33 | torchie | I mean the headphone volume |
| 21:30.44 | scoutcamper | torchie, go on |
| 21:30.45 | torchie | I upgraded my sprint pre- to 2.1.0 |
| 21:31.04 | MetaView | and now your volume is limitedß |
| 21:31.05 | PatrickC_Pre | one of the largest carriers of hepatitis B is dinner mints... |
| 21:31.17 | MetaView | what? |
| 21:31.25 | torchie | and I noticed it was quieter and I wasn't sure if I was beginning to go deaf from using noise isolators at high volume or if my IEMs were dying |
| 21:31.31 | Josef_B | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Germany |
| 21:31.45 | dumbledore_xp | lol |
| 21:31.46 | dumbledore_xp | :D |
| 21:32.18 | rwhitby | internals-scale: morning |
| 21:32.58 | MetaView | moin |
| 21:32.59 | PatrickC_Pre | morning rwhitby |
| 21:33.02 | torchie | yo |
| 21:33.14 | MetaView | how does the monday start? |
| 21:33.29 | Josef_B | monday ? |
| 21:33.53 | torchie | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6240432/EU-calls-for-volume-limit-on-MP3-players.html |
| 21:33.57 | *** join/#webos-internals phb (~phb@h88n1c1o1037.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 21:34.02 | rwhitby | yes, monday. it starts like a monday starts :( |
| 21:34.03 | scoutcamper | Josef_B, its monday for rwhitby |
| 21:34.08 | *** join/#webos-internals Aerocow (~Aerocow@d-216-246-136-153.cpe.metrocast.net) |
| 21:34.10 | Josef_B | wow |
| 21:34.14 | Aerocow | you finally find |
| 21:34.15 | Aerocow | you and i |
| 21:34.17 | Aerocow | collide.. |
| 21:34.20 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.20 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.20 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.20 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.21 | rwhitby | 8:04am monday to be exact. |
| 21:34.21 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.23 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.25 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.27 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.30 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.32 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.33 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.35 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.37 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.37 | scoutcamper | rwhitby, ban hammer plz? |
| 21:34.39 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.40 | PatrickC_Pre | someone please kick |
| 21:34.41 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.43 | *** mode/#webos-internals [+o rwhitby] by ChanServ |
| 21:34.45 | Josef_B | wow |
| 21:34.45 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.47 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.47 | *** kick/#webos-internals [Aerocow!~rwhitby@nslu2-linux/rwhitby] by rwhitby (Aerocow) |
| 21:34.52 | scoutcamper | thanks |
| 21:34.54 | dumbledore_xp | lol |
| 21:34.55 | MetaView | thx |
| 21:34.57 | PatrickC_Pre | thanks |
| 21:34.59 | etx` | ban hammer is swift |
| 21:35.00 | djwhitey | i think those were ascii weiners |
| 21:35.04 | dumbledore_xp | yeah |
| 21:35.08 | Josef_B | lol |
| 21:35.11 | Josef_B | ascii pwns all! |
| 21:35.21 | MetaView | rwhitby: could you use the stuff in my email? |
| 21:35.47 | scoutcamper | alot of channels seem to be under spam attacks today |
| 21:35.49 | rwhitby | MetaView: probably will do it differently, won't get around to it today though. Ryan has been alerted. |
| 21:35.49 | PatrickC_Pre | how's it goin? |
| 21:36.08 | MetaView | rwhitby: fine, that's fine |
| 21:36.15 | dumbledore_xp | i cant stop rofling |
| 21:36.27 | muesli | does terminal work on 2.1 yet? |
| 21:36.33 | Josef_B | rwhitby .. your webos 2 upgrade is flawless :D i was tired of doing my own metascript ... leave it to pros to make it right! |
| 21:36.41 | PatrickC_Pre | only if you have filemgr 2.0 |
| 21:36.45 | MetaView | rwhitby: Ryan could also add some code for cursor movemend and tab-char |
| 21:36.56 | Josef_B | s/metascript/metadoctor |
| 21:36.57 | MetaView | maybe the meta-tap |
| 21:36.59 | muesli | PatrickC_Pre: is that an answer to my question? |
| 21:37.08 | PatrickC_Pre | yes muesli |
| 21:37.11 | muesli | thanks |
| 21:37.16 | PatrickC_Pre | np |
| 21:37.27 | PatrickC_Pre | and filemgr is right now in Alpha/Beta |
| 21:37.34 | MetaView | muesli: no, terminal doesn't work |
| 21:37.39 | *** join/#webos-internals Boopop (~chatzilla@cpc3-sket3-2-0-cust155.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:37.44 | MetaView | terminus works whith the correct jail-settings |
| 21:38.07 | MetaView | PatrickC_Pre: terminal != internalz |
| 21:38.15 | muesli | PatrickC_Pre: which version of filemgr is that then? |
| 21:38.33 | PatrickC_Pre | yea... thought they both worked |
| 21:38.59 | *** join/#webos-internals Aerocow (~Aerocow@d-216-246-136-153.cpe.metrocast.net) |
| 21:39.03 | rwhitby | PatrickC_Pre: please check information before replying in an authoritative manner. |
| 21:39.03 | MetaView | nope |
| 21:39.05 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.07 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.09 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.11 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.13 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.16 | MetaView | oh, he's back |
| 21:39.16 | PatrickC_Pre | ok rwhitby |
| 21:39.17 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.19 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.21 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.23 | PatrickC_Pre | and how did he get back?????? |
| 21:39.23 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.25 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.27 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.29 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.31 | Aerocow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.33 | *** mode/#webos-internals [+q *!*@d-216-246-136-153.cpe.metrocast.net] by ChanServ |
| 21:39.37 | MetaView | how does this start? |
| 21:39.44 | dumbledore_xp | lolol |
| 21:39.54 | oil | is that supposed to be an ascii dick? |
| 21:40.03 | rwhitby | it seems so |
| 21:40.04 | dumbledore_xp | yeah |
| 21:40.05 | dumbledore_xp | lol |
| 21:40.07 | oil | lol |
| 21:40.13 | muesli | any way to make use of openssh to login remotely then? |
| 21:40.18 | muesli | e.g. how do i get my keys? |
| 21:40.34 | datafirm | interested in testing linphone with my asterisk server. anyone around to help me get an alpha test build? |
| 21:40.49 | rwhitby | +q is nice, cause he can still see everyone making fun of his l33t ascii skills, but we don't need to hear from him again |
| 21:41.25 | Josef_B | lol |
| 21:42.43 | PatrickC_Pre | ~hit Josef_B |
| 21:42.43 | infobot | ACTION kicks Josef_B. |
| 21:42.50 | PatrickC_Pre | ok, he's still here |
| 21:42.51 | rwhitby | datafirm: what is your device and sip provider? |
| 21:42.56 | PatrickC_Pre | thought he left |
| 21:43.28 | *** join/#webos-internals hayisforhorses (d8f68899@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.246.136.153) |
| 21:43.39 | hayisforhorses | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.42 | hayisforhorses | aw that's gay |
| 21:43.57 | Frost | hayisforhorses: is that a scrambled ascii penis? |
| 21:44.02 | hayisforhorses | ite |
| 21:44.04 | hayisforhorses | quite |
| 21:44.06 | PatrickC_Pre | hay hayisforhorses |
| 21:44.11 | hayisforhorses | you guys should look into getting some scripts ;) |
| 21:44.21 | datafirm | rwhitby: I have a pre2 and my own asterisk server as well as pbxes.com |
| 21:44.22 | hayisforhorses | autokick on spam? |
| 21:44.25 | hayisforhorses | just do it |
| 21:44.34 | hayisforhorses | i'm off |
| 21:44.37 | hayisforhorses | thank you for tolerating my annoyance |
| 21:45.13 | rwhitby | datafirm: see /msg and report in PreCentral |
| 21:45.24 | eliasp | anyone with a German (o2/Vodafone) Pre-, webOS 2.1.0 around? I thought upgrading to 2.1.0 would work without any profile workarounds, but I'm stuck now in the 'First Run App' which claims it cannot restore the profile... |
| 21:45.47 | datafirm | rwhitby: sounds good. |
| 21:45.58 | rwhitby | eliasp: wiki page says what to do in that instance |
| 21:46.18 | eliasp | rwhitby: uh, should re-read... thx |
| 21:46.45 | MetaView | eliasp: had the same |
| 21:46.49 | MetaView | profile doesn't restore |
| 21:47.01 | MetaView | it restored on a Pre2 with 2.0.1 |
| 21:47.18 | MetaView | disable backup shall work |
| 21:47.36 | eliasp | ok, so I'll have to re-flash 1.4.5, disable backup, flash 2.1.0 again and re-try... |
| 21:47.48 | rwhitby | yep |
| 21:48.07 | MetaView | my Pre- doesn't go back to 1.4.5 |
| 21:48.12 | MetaView | it refuses after 05 |
| 21:48.16 | MetaView | 50% |
| 21:48.24 | rwhitby | bbl - time to earn the dollars |
| 21:48.27 | eliasp | ouch, I hope mine does |
| 21:48.30 | eliasp | rwhitby: hf |
| 21:48.49 | dumbledore_xp | so you guys found a way to get 1.4.5 profiles working on 2.1? |
| 21:50.18 | Josef_B | yes |
| 21:50.27 | Josef_B | i masqed as 1.4.5 and am on 2.1 |
| 21:50.28 | Josef_B | :D |
| 21:50.41 | dumbledore_xp | for real? |
| 21:50.51 | Josef_B | yep |
| 21:50.53 | Josef_B | w00 |
| 21:50.55 | Josef_B | t |
| 21:50.56 | dumbledore_xp | <3 |
| 21:51.01 | dumbledore_xp | make a write up |
| 21:51.04 | eliasp | Josef_B: I've read somewhere (don't remember anymore where it was) that there are no workarounds needed for 2.1 for German o2 Pre- at all.... |
| 21:51.11 | Josef_B | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade |
| 21:51.14 | Josef_B | toward bottom |
| 21:51.16 | eliasp | but it looks like it doesn't work ;) |
| 21:51.27 | Josef_B | Step 5: Restore /etc/palm-build-info |
| 21:52.06 | Josef_B | dumbledore_xp paste those command a nd reboot |
| 21:52.14 | Josef_B | my palm profile shows 1.4.5 |
| 21:52.40 | Josef_B | dumbledore_xp i followed whole script and it worked |
| 21:52.45 | dumbledore_xp | ;o |
| 21:52.54 | dumbledore_xp | contacts and memos were restored too |
| 21:52.55 | dumbledore_xp | ? |
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| 21:56.35 | dumbledore_xp | is away: shaving |
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| 22:07.35 | eliasp | ok, Pre- is doctored back to 1.4.5 now... restoring now, disabling backup then, upgrading to 2.1.0 then again... let's se... |
| 22:07.40 | eliasp | s/se/see/g |
| 22:17.17 | eliasp | hmm, just noticed I have a lot entries in my PalmProfile calendar... don't want to kill them all by disabling the backup ;-/ |
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| 22:26.47 | eliasp | I miss an option in all PIM related webOS apps to migrate items between resources (like: move all contacts from PalmProfile to Google)... |
| 22:27.22 | PatrickC_Pre | why would some apps not restore to a profile????!!! |
| 22:27.43 | eliasp | PatrickC_Pre: what do you mean? |
| 22:28.00 | PatrickC_Pre | I bought angry birds, then got my phone replaced |
| 22:28.23 | PatrickC_Pre | the first time I got it replaced (the phone) angry birds stayed |
| 22:28.32 | PatrickC_Pre | the second time.... no angry birds |
| 22:29.08 | PatrickC_Pre | half my apps restored, half didnt |
| 22:29.32 | MetaView | try to redownload |
| 22:29.36 | MetaView | worked for me |
| 22:29.47 | MetaView | maybe you used a backup tool to migrateß |
| 22:29.55 | PatrickC_Pre | ?? |
| 22:30.18 | PatrickC_Pre | it tells me I need a credit card to download :/ |
| 22:30.37 | PatrickC_Pre | I'm gonna have a good-long talk with sprint....... |
| 22:30.59 | MetaView | oh |
| 22:31.11 | MetaView | ok, then it lost the info |
| 22:31.37 | PatrickC_Pre | well, me and sprint ain't on the best of terms right now |
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| 22:54.52 | PatrickC_Pre | hewo |
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| 23:00.20 | Josef_B | yo |
| 23:00.29 | Josef_B | i was thinking at lunch right |
| 23:00.29 | PatrickC_Pre | it has been 13 days since I email about Pre2... |
| 23:00.34 | PatrickC_Pre | and no hear back |
| 23:00.38 | Josef_B | check it |
| 23:00.42 | PatrickC_Pre | I did |
| 23:01.23 | Josef_B | pre + and pre - are happy to get 2.1 .. and we know tha will be the end .. what will happen when webos 3 takes off and in 2 years where will legacy devices be |
| 23:01.26 | Josef_B | crazy |
| 23:01.50 | PatrickC_Pre | yea... |
| 23:02.00 | PatrickC_Pre | I'm thinking of emailing Adela |
| 23:02.05 | PatrickC_Pre | my old dev rep |
| 23:03.40 | Josef_B | my wife won't let me upgrade again for at least 2 years |
| 23:03.42 | Josef_B | 0o |
| 23:04.06 | Josef_B | unless she gets a lot of money |
| 23:04.38 | PatrickC_Pre | ... |
| 23:04.43 | PatrickC_Pre | get a dev pre2 :p |
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| 23:05.41 | eliasp | calendar problem solved... http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PalmDatabase.db3_File#Exporting_Local_Calendar_to_iCal_File |
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| 23:06.12 | Josef_B | hey SineOt |
| 23:06.14 | PatrickC_Pre | sineot, how's it goin? |
| 23:06.25 | SineOt | hey |
| 23:06.25 | scoinva | Has anyone heard any rumors about running Android VM in WebOS? |
| 23:06.27 | danilos | wonders if the storage format on webOS2 is actually berkeleyDB DPL... maybe there's no need to try to figure it all out myself :) |
| 23:06.37 | SineOt | terribly headachey :b |
| 23:07.02 | izkeepsitreal | so I just reinstalled all my linux stuff and tried to compile 2.0 with the script method and encounterd an error |
| 23:07.05 | PatrickC_Pre | that stinks |
| 23:07.07 | izkeepsitreal | anyone mind if I paste? :) |
| 23:08.16 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal http://webos.pastebin.com/ |
| 23:08.23 | PatrickC_Pre | go ahead |
| 23:08.40 | izkeepsitreal | Saving to: `downloads/webosdoctorp101ueude-wr-2.1.0.jar' |
| 23:08.40 | izkeepsitreal | 100%[======================================>] 195,098,147 823B/s in 4m 6s |
| 23:08.40 | izkeepsitreal | 2011-02-27 14:51:51 (774 KB/s) - `downloads/webosdoctorp101ueude-wr-2.1.0.jar' saved [195098147/195098147] |
| 23:08.40 | izkeepsitreal | make: *** No rule to make target `clobber'. Stop. |
| 23:08.40 | izkeepsitreal | make: *** No rule to make target `unpack'. Stop. |
| 23:09.18 | SineOt | where are you running the scripts from? the script folder, or the metadoctor base folder? |
| 23:09.21 | eliasp | izkeepsitreal: you're running it in the wrong directory |
| 23:09.23 | PatrickC_Pre | sineot, have you gotten your dev pre2? |
| 23:09.24 | izkeepsitreal | meta dr |
| 23:09.28 | Josef_B | dosen't look like it |
| 23:09.33 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade < -- follow this guide |
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| 23:09.45 | izkeepsitreal | meta dr/scripts/ |
| 23:09.45 | eliasp | izkeepsitreal: you have to run './scripts/your-script' instead of doing a 'cd scripts' first |
| 23:09.47 | SineOt | PatrickC_Pre: no |
| 23:10.01 | PatrickC_Pre | have you heaed back yet? |
| 23:10.10 | PatrickC_Pre | s/heaed/heard/ |
| 23:10.12 | Josef_B | this is whats crazy in that guide |
| 23:10.22 | Josef_B | scripts is a directory but it is executable |
| 23:10.27 | Josef_B | 0_o |
| 23:10.30 | SineOt | PatrickC_Pre: no I haven't |
| 23:10.37 | PatrickC_Pre | when did you email |
| 23:10.42 | izkeepsitreal | ok |
| 23:10.46 | izkeepsitreal | so what dir should i BE IN |
| 23:10.53 | izkeepsitreal | arg to run the scripts/ |
| 23:11.32 | SineOt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.41 | SineOt | then you do ./scripts/blah.sh or whatever |
| 23:12.18 | izkeepsitreal | i'll follow the wiki one more time |
| 23:12.20 | izkeepsitreal | see if htat works |
| 23:12.47 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal the wiki is golden |
| 23:13.04 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal what you should do is rm -r <whatever your old doctor is> |
| 23:13.10 | Josef_B | then mkdir <your new directory> |
| 23:13.13 | Josef_B | then cd into that directory |
| 23:13.15 | Josef_B | and follow the ghide |
| 23:13.20 | Josef_B | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade |
| 23:13.35 | Josef_B | to a T |
| 23:13.57 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/02/2-1-on-a-legacy-device-so-easy-a-caveman-can-do-it/ < -- there is a video on it |
| 23:14.44 | izkeepsitreal | ok |
| 23:14.55 | Josef_B | follow the video .. it won't fail you |
| 23:15.55 | izkeepsitreal | ya i'm not seeing what i did wrong here |
| 23:15.57 | izkeepsitreal | I installed meta |
| 23:16.00 | izkeepsitreal | went into the script dir |
| 23:16.06 | izkeepsitreal | ran the ./script for my phone (bell) |
| 23:16.18 | Josef_B | coo |
| 23:16.20 | izkeepsitreal | it compiled (downloaded) all the verizon/sprint/bell .jarz |
| 23:16.24 | izkeepsitreal | after that I got that HALt |
| 23:16.34 | SineOt | don't go into the script dir |
| 23:16.37 | Josef_B | nope |
| 23:16.40 | izkeepsitreal | 'no rule to make target' |
| 23:16.44 | Josef_B | stay in curernt meta-doctor folder |
| 23:16.48 | SineOt | go into the metadoctor folder |
| 23:16.49 | Josef_B | run the script form there |
| 23:16.49 | izkeepsitreal | so just meta--doctor |
| 23:16.51 | izkeepsitreal | dir |
| 23:16.53 | SineOt | yes |
| 23:16.56 | Josef_B | its wierd |
| 23:17.01 | Josef_B | most folders are not executable |
| 23:17.03 | Josef_B | 0_o |
| 23:17.04 | izkeepsitreal | and just ./script ? |
| 23:17.13 | izkeepsitreal | with my carrier |
| 23:17.15 | Josef_B | but its ./scripts/meta-blaha-2.10 |
| 23:17.18 | izkeepsitreal | ok |
| 23:17.19 | SineOt | yes |
| 23:17.36 | izkeepsitreal | so I should rm -rf that other 'compile' ? |
| 23:17.39 | izkeepsitreal | let it go again/ |
| 23:17.49 | izkeepsitreal | or those downloaed .jars are still usable/ |
| 23:17.50 | PatrickC_Pre | I don't know how to do any of that :p |
| 23:18.03 | SineOt | it should do that automatically for you |
| 23:18.18 | SineOt | if the downloaded jars are living in a folder in scripts, you can move them out to Downloads in the metadoctor folder proper to be able to reuse them |
| 23:18.38 | SineOt | eg if they're in /scripts/downloads/IamTheDoctor.jar just move them to /downloads/ |
| 23:19.24 | izkeepsitreal | ok |
| 23:19.25 | izkeepsitreal | :) |
| 23:19.27 | izkeepsitreal | sec |
| 23:20.10 | Josef_B | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.19 | Josef_B | run ./scripts/met<tab> |
| 23:20.25 | Josef_B | tab till you see your carrier |
| 23:25.12 | izkeepsitreal | ok so my meta-doctor/downloads has the .jars in them |
| 23:25.35 | izkeepsitreal | now what cmd do I run from where? ./script/meta-doctor/scripts/meta-bell* |
| 23:25.37 | izkeepsitreal | ? |
| 23:25.52 | izkeepsitreal | from the /meta-doctor/ dir ? |
| 23:30.09 | rwhitby | izkeepsitreal: run the command *exactly* as stated on the wiki page |
| 23:30.29 | rwhitby | (why do people feel the need to improvise and cause problems for themselves) |
| 23:31.21 | izkeepsitreal | I'll go over it again. |
| 23:31.22 | SineOt | rwhitby: they like to live... dangerously *dons sunglasses* |
| 23:31.54 | Josef_B | lol |
| 23:31.59 | Josef_B | first of all izkeepsitreal what directory are you in |
| 23:32.01 | Josef_B | type pwd |
| 23:32.25 | izkeepsitreal | /home/mike/meta-doctor |
| 23:32.54 | Josef_B | ok |
| 23:33.02 | Josef_B | type ls you should see scripts right ? |
| 23:33.23 | NuttyBunny | is still wondering how to make the voice dialer in es_mx rather than en_us (which is the language my Pre is set on) |
| 23:33.24 | Josef_B | from where you are type ./scripts/meta-<press tab> untill you see your doctor |
| 23:33.30 | izkeepsitreal | ok |
| 23:33.31 | izkeepsitreal | I got it |
| 23:33.34 | Josef_B | :D |
| 23:33.39 | izkeepsitreal | it was user error as you suspected :) |
| 23:33.45 | izkeepsitreal | and I do walk the line! |
| 23:33.47 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal always is lol j/k |
| 23:33.48 | izkeepsitreal | and im a linux n00b |
| 23:33.56 | izkeepsitreal | but thanks for the help boys |
| 23:34.21 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal you live in a box ? |
| 23:34.36 | Josef_B | lol .. i looked at your whois information |
| 23:36.36 | izkeepsitreal | sure do ;) |
| 23:36.41 | izkeepsitreal | its cozy |
| 23:37.13 | Josef_B | how is the download izkeepsitreal ? |
| 23:37.22 | izkeepsitreal | its compiling right now |
| 23:37.26 | Josef_B | sweet |
| 23:37.32 | izkeepsitreal | wiating for mod-doctor to pop up |
| 23:37.39 | Josef_B | might me a min cause its downloading 1.4.5 and 2.1 |
| 23:37.39 | izkeepsitreal | and hopefully this time my virutal box will recognize my usb |
| 23:37.46 | izkeepsitreal | aye |
| 23:37.49 | izkeepsitreal | I've been thsi far! :) |
| 23:38.01 | SineOt | after you build the modified doctor you can move it off the virtual box and run it anywhere |
| 23:38.14 | Josef_B | anywhere that has java |
| 23:38.21 | Josef_B | well on another os |
| 23:38.23 | izkeepsitreal | yes sweet |
| 23:38.35 | izkeepsitreal | whats the app I need to backup my contacts to a .csv |
| 23:38.36 | izkeepsitreal | ? |
| 23:38.39 | izkeepsitreal | er patch |
| 23:39.24 | izkeepsitreal | I foudn it |
| 23:39.25 | izkeepsitreal | nm :)\ |
| 23:39.31 | Josef_B | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Contacts_Transfer_(1.4.x_to_2.x) |
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| 23:40.57 | izkeepsitreal | contact transfer says this on the wiki |
| 23:41.07 | izkeepsitreal | there is currently to next on thsi page |
| 23:41.23 | Josef_B | next ? |
| 23:42.53 | izkeepsitreal | i closed the window |
| 23:42.59 | izkeepsitreal | but it didnt have content on it apparenlty |
| 23:43.04 | izkeepsitreal | i got a patch to email contacts |
| 23:43.08 | izkeepsitreal | so that works |
| 23:43.10 | izkeepsitreal | ;) |
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| 23:44.23 | dumbledore_xp | i sliced myself :( |
| 23:44.39 | Josef_B | FAIL! |
| 23:44.44 | dumbledore_xp | lol |
| 23:45.03 | dumbledore_xp | i lost the piece the blade and decided to use the blade as-is |
| 23:45.32 | dumbledore_xp | anyway, does 2.1 have any battery life improvements |
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| 23:47.48 | dumbledore_xp | anyone? |
| 23:48.04 | Josef_B | dumbledore_xp turn off data .. it rocks! |
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| 23:48.19 | dumbledore_xp | yeah, i do that when im in school |
| 23:48.38 | dumbledore_xp | how many patches are there for 2.1 now |
| 23:48.46 | Josef_B | dunno .. on a cal |
| 23:48.47 | Josef_B | l |
| 23:48.56 | dumbledore_xp | oh when you're finished : |
| 23:48.57 | dumbledore_xp | :3 |
| 23:49.23 | NuttyBunny | dumbledore_xp: I feel it keeps the battery in better shape, but I've only had it 3 days, so, I'm not that sure |
| 23:49.40 | dumbledore_xp | pre2 or pre1? |
| 23:50.17 | NuttyBunny | Pre Plus |
| 23:50.39 | Boopop | I dunno about anyone else, but I find I'm more inclined to charge my phone than my android owning friends due to the lovely touchstone xD |
| 23:50.53 | dumbledore_xp | nice, i have a pre- :3 |
| 23:51.02 | Boopop | dumbledore_xp: Pre- users unit! |
| 23:51.07 | Boopop | unite* evne |
| 23:51.11 | dumbledore_xp | :D |
| 23:51.11 | Boopop | even**** |
| 23:51.13 | Boopop | fml |
| 23:51.23 | dumbledore_xp | lol |
| 23:51.28 | dumbledore_xp | hows 2.1 for you boopop |
| 23:51.34 | Boopop | yeah it's pretty good |
| 23:51.40 | dumbledore_xp | nice |
| 23:51.42 | Boopop | I find it depressing that with the clock in exhibition mode |
| 23:51.42 | NuttyBunny | Well, move the compcache up to 32Mb, it works a lot better |
| 23:51.50 | dumbledore_xp | prewared yet? |
| 23:51.55 | Boopop | it has an image which you can't change |
| 23:52.01 | Boopop | yeah, haven't done much with it |
| 23:52.06 | dumbledore_xp | yeah, im dissaponted in that was well |
| 23:52.23 | Boopop | how can you up the cache NuttyBunny ? |
| 23:52.25 | NuttyBunny | you can do it with govnah temporary, or by editing /etc/event.d/compcache and change the 10240 to 32768 |
| 23:52.46 | NuttyBunny | If you do it with govnah, first you disable it, then you change it, then reenable |
| 23:53.02 | NuttyBunny | but I'm more confortable editing the file and restarting the Pre :) |
| 23:53.28 | Boopop | how come? |
| 23:53.42 | Boopop | And I think I'd prefer this govnah method |
| 23:53.48 | SineOt | because editing the file persists across reboots |
| 23:54.08 | Boopop | Ah, govnah doesn't? |
| 23:54.15 | Boopop | How can I edit the file easily? |
| 23:54.27 | NuttyBunny | govnah doesn't in this case |
| 23:54.39 | SineOt | govnah method restores it 10mb each reboot, because the event.d script sets it to that on boot, overriding anything Govnah had set |
| 23:55.04 | NuttyBunny | Boopop: You can get it with webos quick install, edit it in your machine, and then put it again to your pre |
| 23:55.14 | izkeepsitreal | after the compile what dir is the new .jar located in? |
| 23:55.49 | NuttyBunny | or you can edit it directly entering your Pre with novaterm, and editing with vi |
| 23:55.50 | Josef_B | izkeepsitreal the doctor should run by itself |
| 23:55.57 | SineOt | it's located in the build directory |
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| 23:56.13 | Boopop | Thought it might be WOSQI NuttyBunny, thanks :) Recieve then edit then send back, right? |
| 23:56.21 | SineOt | Josef_B: he built it in a VM, it's easier to run it outside of the VM since then you don't have to deal with USB passthrough etc |
| 23:56.21 | Boopop | forgot about that feature |
| 23:56.23 | izkeepsitreal | Josef_b: it has ran but my pre isnt recognized on the usb so I'm going to reboot and need to restart it manually |
| 23:56.27 | Josef_B | aw |
| 23:56.28 | izkeepsitreal | or |
| 23:56.29 | izkeepsitreal | ya |
| 23:56.30 | izkeepsitreal | and that |
| 23:56.47 | NuttyBunny | Boopop: Right :D it's easy, just change one value, reboot. You can check it got changed with govnah |
| 23:56.56 | izkeepsitreal | so the build dir is meta-doctor/scripts/ ? |
| 23:57.03 | Josef_B | nope |
| 23:57.09 | SineOt | no, it's meta-doctor/build |
| 23:57.15 | Josef_B | look in build |
| 23:57.17 | Josef_B | type ls |
| 23:57.17 | izkeepsitreal | thnx |
| 23:57.21 | Boopop | Will do that now then, thanks for the tip NuttyBunny :) |
| 23:57.33 | Josef_B | you will see pre-saomsetiong-2.1 |
| 23:57.39 | izkeepsitreal | rebooting now |
| 23:57.42 | izkeepsitreal | brb |
| 23:57.47 | Josef_B | ... |
| 23:57.59 | NuttyBunny | Sure, I noticed my GF's Pre runs a lot better with 32Mb of compcache than the 10Mb that Palm put by default |
| 23:58.16 | Josef_B | NuttyBunny your a dude ? |
| 23:58.30 | oil | lol |
| 23:58.35 | Josef_B | NuttyBunny j/k |
| 23:58.37 | rwhitby | internals-scale: ping |
| 23:58.53 | Boopop | I'm glad my macbook still has working novacom drivers |
| 23:59.02 | Boopop | for some reason I can't fix the drivers on my desktop |
| 23:59.03 | Boopop | oh well |
| 23:59.41 | rwhitby | cryptk: ping |
