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00:16.43 | ajay | uh! looks like .inf editing may be working! |
00:18.16 | ajay | i still have an "unknown" device showing up in windoze tho.. |
00:19.54 | PatrickC_Pre2 | what are you trying to do? |
00:22.33 | RagingMind | ajay, a couple things get exposed... as long as you have the Diag port you'll be okay |
00:23.45 | ajay | cdma editin |
00:24.40 | RagingMind | ajay, what all ya editing? |
00:26.13 | ajay | the more the merrier.. unicdma came with the driver but it doesn't seem to just 'work' |
00:26.46 | RagingMind | I'm just glad I have my gps working now |
00:26.58 | ajay | RagingMind: what did you use for that? |
00:27.06 | RagingMind | it takes a while... (5 to 10 minutes) but it's reliable |
00:27.29 | RagingMind | I used PmModemUpdater to change a couple nvram values |
00:27.36 | RagingMind | that were suggested in the thread |
00:27.41 | ajay | ah ok |
00:28.14 | RagingMind | it used to be that if I got a lot it was fast, but if I didn't get a lock... then I was SOL (and I went several weeks at a time with no lock) |
00:28.25 | RagingMind | now... it's slow... but I seem to always get one |
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00:29.11 | ajay | i can usually get a lock everyday, but sometimes it's quick, sometimes it.. just doesn't, but a .. either reboot or i believe even a luna restart can get it to work.weird |
00:30.04 | PatrickC_Pre2 | for what? |
00:30.31 | RagingMind | PatrickC_Pre2, GPS... gotta get your connection under control ;) |
00:30.46 | PatrickC_Pre2 | heh, I'm at Chick-Fil-A :) |
00:30.56 | halfhalo | real men have a bouncer |
00:31.01 | PatrickC_Pre2 | my GPS seems better on 2.1 |
00:31.20 | PatrickC_Pre2 | doesn't even know what a bouncer is other then at clubs :p |
00:31.45 | PatrickC_Pre2 | is googleing |
00:31.55 | ajay | anybody used qpst here? |
00:32.59 | PatrickC_Pre2 | halfhalo: what bouncer do you use? |
00:33.21 | halfhalo | znc |
00:33.40 | PatrickC_Pre2 | thinks its google time |
00:34.27 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I need a server? |
00:35.01 | PatrickC_Pre2 | man... |
00:36.31 | ajay | i don't see my phone in qpst, but at least it recognizes the phone, which i can't get unicdma to do.. |
00:39.07 | ajay | take that back.. still don't know what model to put into either |
00:39.46 | PatrickC_Pre2 | RUMOR: New HP phone coming to Sprint this August as a 6-month exclusive @ http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/04/rumor-new-hp-phone-coming-to-sprint-this-august-as-a-6-month-exclusive/ |
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00:41.54 | kevets | so, webos 2.1 is cool but i think my modem is f'ed somehow |
00:42.23 | PatrickC_Pre2 | why? |
00:42.29 | kevets | didnt help with data stuff. kept failing on 1x & 3G |
00:42.38 | Loudergood | have you tried going somewhere with better signal? |
00:42.41 | PatrickC_Pre2 | replacement? |
00:43.09 | kevets | yeah good signal - back on bb with 3G |
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00:43.26 | kevets | eh it was from craigslist they wont do it unless i insure it and spend $99 |
00:43.29 | kevets | rofl |
00:43.45 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lol |
00:44.13 | kevets | is there still a way to get a pre 2 for no charge? |
00:44.26 | kevets | i'm off contract |
00:44.34 | kevets | next phone is still months away |
00:44.49 | PatrickC_Pre2 | become a developer? |
00:45.09 | kevets | they give you a phone? |
00:45.12 | Loudergood | get a new comm board |
00:45.20 | PatrickC_Pre2 | dev phone givaway |
00:45.23 | PatrickC_Pre2 | pre2 |
00:45.27 | kevets | wat |
00:45.39 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lemme get a link for u |
00:45.51 | ajay | good luck even hearing back from them! |
00:46.09 | kevets | yeah that sounds too good to be true |
00:46.42 | Loudergood | pre2 uses the same commboard as pre and pre+ |
00:46.44 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I got one from them |
00:47.07 | kevets | cool |
00:47.19 | PatrickC_Pre2 | http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/02/mojo-and-enyo-two-great-opportunities/ |
00:47.26 | PatrickC_Pre2 | and so did many devs |
00:47.40 | kevets | oh damn just saw fcc touchpad filing - they have had new filings coming in all week |
00:47.47 | kevets | legal finally got their s together |
00:47.52 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lol |
00:48.21 | PatrickC_Pre2 | go to that link :) |
00:49.24 | kevets | so email devmarketing@palm.com and beg? |
00:49.41 | kevets | i think i'm a future smartphone developer |
00:49.43 | Loudergood | kevets: get a new radio board for cheap http://forums.precentral.net/marketplace/260541-palm-pre-parts-thread-9.html |
00:49.43 | PatrickC_Pre2 | see if you are a "qualified" dev |
00:50.04 | Loudergood | how many apps have you released PatrickC_Pre2 ? |
00:50.17 | PatrickC_Pre2 | 5 |
00:50.28 | PatrickC_Pre2 | and 2 in the works |
00:50.37 | kevets | oh there are qualifications? that might be a problem |
00:51.02 | PatrickC_Pre2 | you might be able to get the $200 credit |
00:51.10 | kevets | if i had a working phone i'd be inclined to put some leet scriptz together |
00:51.52 | PatrickC_Pre2 | what's that lol |
00:51.54 | kevets | what the heck do i do with a radio board Loudergood |
00:52.23 | PatrickC_Pre2 | do a comms board swap |
00:52.38 | kevets | is it something anyone can do? |
00:52.42 | halfhalo | mmm.... comms boards... taaaasty.... |
00:52.50 | PatrickC_Pre2 | halfhalo: lol |
00:52.57 | PatrickC_Pre2 | kevets: yeah, kinda |
00:53.12 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I haven't ventured down that path to get me a FrankenPre2 *yet* |
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00:54.07 | kevets | damn |
00:54.22 | PatrickC_Pre2 | what? |
00:54.39 | kevets | so you just pop the old one off and replace the radio board? |
00:54.50 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lemme get you a link |
00:55.00 | halfhalo | more complicated, but basically yes. |
00:55.10 | ajay | i'm really waiting for the fcc filing on the world phone.. (chompin at that bit!) |
00:56.03 | PatrickC_Pre2 | kevets: http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_2?wasRedirected=true |
00:56.07 | kevets | damn |
00:56.12 | kevets | i might be able to do that - lol |
00:56.18 | kevets | can't get any worse i suppose |
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00:59.24 | kevets | i'll have to check that again when im on a faster connection, 3g only here lol |
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00:59.53 | ajay | kevets: i know people that only have 3g for everything! crazy if you ask me, but..! |
01:00.48 | kevets | yeah it is crazy - at my mom's house the FIOS there is nuts |
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01:02.32 | kevets | one of my clients has a 30Mbit connection - that's pretty nice when I'm working there heh |
01:03.24 | NuttyBunny | I need a 30Mbit connection to download all my ..... backups.. ;) |
01:04.05 | kevets | yeah its crazy sometimes we'll saturate it with the SAN replication at that particular place |
01:04.16 | kevets | but yeah FIOS is all about.. downloding backups lol |
01:04.29 | kevets | going to 3G is harrd |
01:06.28 | ajay | unicdma makes my computer sound funny |
01:17.50 | ajay | nappy time.. |
01:18.46 | NuttyBunny | hey rwhitby |
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01:19.32 | rwhitby | hi |
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04:07.53 | phil_bw | wanders by |
04:08.13 | phil_bw | so uhh anyone know anything about kernels in here? |
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04:09.51 | summatusmentis | depends, what are you trying to figure out? |
04:10.05 | dtzWill | phil_bw: bunch of people do :). btw, sorry for sitting on your X stuff I'll get it out in the next few days as I can--the biggest stick is that I don't have a particularly good/convenient way to package the xorg stuff, was kinda ad-hoc (one reason it's still in testing feed) |
04:10.17 | dtzWill | so addressing that first, even though that shouldn't really cause it to block. |
04:10.56 | phil_bw | dtzWill: I'm not worried, I'm not waiting on you. I already have the awesome keyboard :P |
04:11.38 | dtzWill | phil_bw: :D :) |
04:12.02 | phil_bw | So I'm trying to establish a PPTP tunnel to my Win7Pro system. All is great except the kernel does not support MPPE. Any good ideas to get said support? |
04:20.29 | phil_bw | I haven't compiled a kernel in a *very* long time and I don't know if I really want to experiment with the Pre |
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10:26.12 | RichT23 | Ya Ill have my Pixi back "soon" |
10:26.19 | RichT23 | Palm say they fixed it |
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11:26.58 | lordbah | "USSD request failed" when dialing #3386633#. Is this because I previously used a version of doctor so activation would not be required? |
11:27.38 | PatrickC_Pre2 | not sure |
11:28.55 | lordbah | nm, I didn't see the asterisk - getting blinder by the day |
11:29.37 | PatrickC_Pre2 | ok |
11:37.56 | swisstomcat | yeah, it's #*3386633# |
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12:53.18 | PatrickC_Pre2 | weird.. Preware just downloaded an app catalog app.. but couldn't install.. |
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13:22.54 | cryptk | PatrickC_Pre2, what app |
13:23.10 | cryptk | it is possible that the same app, with the same appid is in both a homebrew feed and the app cat |
13:23.19 | PatrickC_Pre2 | GPS Tool Lite |
13:27.51 | cryptk | I can't even see that app... may not be flagged for 2.1.0 |
13:28.10 | cryptk | did it try and install through preware? or did preware open an app cat scene? |
13:31.25 | PatrickC_Pre2 | it tried to install it with preware |
13:31.34 | PatrickC_Pre2 | and downloaded it successfully, but didn't install |
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16:02.09 | PatrickC_Pre2 | kevets: working better? |
16:04.08 | kevets | well the client i work at today has wifi so i am at least able to try logging into my profile |
16:04.23 | PatrickC_Pre2 | cool |
16:04.29 | kevets | i think my modem is screwy though still.. don't have my phone activated right now |
16:04.46 | PatrickC_Pre2 | what phone are you using then? |
16:05.08 | kevets | vz pre plus |
16:05.32 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I thought you said it isn't activated atm? |
16:07.36 | kevets | i have my line activated on my blackberry right now since its the only thing i have that will tether |
16:08.21 | kevets | just got the pre powered on and joined it to the wifi here at the office to try and see if i can make any progress on at least setting up palm profile and other stuff |
16:08.34 | kevets | then maybe give it another try and activate the pre again to see if 3g will work |
16:09.01 | PatrickC_Pre2 | cool |
16:09.04 | PatrickC_Pre2 | hope it works |
16:09.38 | kevets | yea looks like i'm into my profile now - puttig it on the wifi worked for that and then just launching the gesture demo app |
16:09.57 | kevets | doubt it will help the 3g connection staying on |
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16:14.03 | NuttyBunny | hey chuqui :) |
16:14.11 | PatrickC_Pre2 | hay NuttyBunny :) |
16:16.27 | chuqui | morning! |
16:17.48 | PatrickC_Pre2 | anyone here on 2.1 and having messaging app issues? |
16:19.19 | kevets | what issues? |
16:19.58 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I can't send IM messages |
16:20.04 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I'm gonna log it now |
16:20.56 | PatrickC_Pre2 | [2011-04-27 16:20:42] (Messaging) DBWatcher: watch fired, re-issuing query., palmcontactsVersion1_0:116 |
16:21.20 | PatrickC_Pre2 | ^^ is all the log |
16:21.40 | NuttyBunny | But that's for synergy |
16:21.50 | NuttyBunny | do you have just email addresses instead of the names? |
16:21.50 | PatrickC_Pre2 | weird.. |
16:21.55 | PatrickC_Pre2 | yeah |
16:22.02 | NuttyBunny | ah, yes, it does that sometimes |
16:22.21 | PatrickC_Pre2 | not anymore... |
16:22.24 | NuttyBunny | reboot your dev, logon again, and wait for it to do the synergy thing |
16:22.47 | PatrickC_Pre2 | reboot as in? |
16:22.56 | PatrickC_Pre2 | full erase, or just a boot cycle |
16:23.03 | NuttyBunny | reboot as in press the power button x several seconds, and select reboot |
16:24.30 | PatrickC_Pre2 | and it shows me the name at the beginning of the conversation, then when I send a msg, it changed to only email.. |
16:24.31 | NuttyBunny | Yep, happens if it loses the IM information on the contacts, mostly because a battery pull or a reboot while logged in... weird, weird issue |
16:24.52 | PatrickC_Pre2 | ok |
16:24.57 | PatrickC_Pre2 | brb boot time |
16:24.59 | NuttyBunny | ok |
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16:26.54 | NuttyBunny | Do we have a TripIt app? |
16:27.27 | ka6sox-home | we have a NavIt one... |
16:28.05 | NuttyBunny | mmm... nah, it was to backfire a Twitter saying that there was a TripIt app for BB and Android :) |
16:35.35 | kevets | whee |
16:35.46 | kevets | palm profile looks like it activated over wifi finally |
16:36.03 | kevets | firing up app store and preware to cehck it out |
16:36.29 | kevets | if anything i'll see how 2.1 works as a non-cell service device |
16:38.11 | NuttyBunny | cool :D At least! |
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16:43.56 | kevets | yay and Comics works |
16:44.06 | kevets | garfield minus garfield ha |
16:46.33 | kevets | damn on wifi this thing is good to go |
16:51.18 | NuttyBunny | LOL .. so, did it download all your apps as well? :D |
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16:54.44 | kevets | well i hadn't purchased any apps or anything just installed oens i was missing |
16:54.54 | kevets | this would be perfect if it would just do this over 3G |
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17:16.34 | kevets | is there a way to like check the modem firmware or test it without the phone being activated on a line? |
17:25.06 | kevets | hmm one last effort - gonna try looking at the carriernetworksettings file from here http://forums.precentral.net/gsm-pre/211728-modifying-webos-carrier-network-settings.html |
17:30.48 | swisstomcat | nuttybunny: there's tripthat for webos |
17:31.10 | NuttyBunny | Ah, that!... lemme backfire to this guy ;) hehehe |
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17:45.18 | kevets | anyone messed with the carriernetworksettings file in 2.1 before? |
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17:46.50 | PatrickC_Pre2 | NuttyBunny: Ping! |
17:47.02 | NuttyBunny | PatrickC_Pre2: Pong! |
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17:47.13 | PatrickC_Pre2 | the boots didn't work :/ |
17:47.24 | PatrickC_Pre2 | had to reboot 3 times to get wifi back to even try |
17:47.42 | NuttyBunny | grrrr... |
17:48.48 | halfhalo | hmmm.... there is a strange amount of [REDACTED] in this website right now... |
17:51.02 | PatrickC_Pre2 | stupid Synergy |
17:52.24 | halfhalo | http://REDACTED.preyourmind.org |
17:53.43 | PatrickC_Pre2 | is proudly running the 2.1 app catalog on 1.4.5 |
17:58.53 | SineOt | proudly? why proudly :I |
17:58.58 | SineOt | it's not that hard to do |
18:00.02 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I know, but I'm happy to have it |
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18:03.19 | kevets | is there a way to tell if i have the right settings ni the ##DATA# menu? |
18:06.19 | th3vo1d | heres some food for thought: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4240/htc-thunderbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone/4 |
18:06.23 | NuttyBunny | no idea, but isn't that programming automatically done when you dial certain number on verizon? |
18:06.32 | NuttyBunny | kevets: no idea, but isn't that programming automatically done when you dial certain number on verizon? |
18:06.45 | SineOt | should be, dialing *228 will do the programing |
18:06.59 | th3vo1d | NuttyBunny: you are referring to *228 |
18:07.14 | NuttyBunny | that one |
18:07.21 | th3vo1d | i know it downloads the PRL |
18:07.28 | th3vo1d | not sure if it sets up data |
18:07.49 | SineOt | it should have an option if it doesn't do so already to do the full programing for the device |
18:09.50 | PatrickC_Pre2 | Software Manager works on 1.4.5! |
18:09.57 | kevets | yeah thats what i am tryin to make sure |
18:10.09 | kevets | yeah option 1 programs the phone 2 updates roaming |
18:10.49 | kevets | uninstalling some patches before i try this one last time |
18:10.55 | kevets | activating and testing 3g |
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18:20.38 | PatrickC_Pre2 | we are not allowed t distribute Palm apps, I know.. but can we give instructions on how to extract them/build them? |
18:23.15 | kevets | damn what causes Emergency Mode to trigger? |
18:23.28 | kevets | this continues to happen if i have the phone on under 2.1 |
18:23.47 | NuttyBunny | What's emergency mode??? |
18:23.53 | SineOt | what's Emergency Mode? |
18:24.27 | PatrickC_Pre2 | ^^ |
18:24.47 | NuttyBunny | you had to write the same question below :P |
18:24.54 | kevets | kicks you out of launcher and everything and just has Emergency Mode on the screen with a big plus sign in the center |
18:25.08 | kevets | and you have options to make an emergency call or hit cancel (which does nothing) |
18:25.16 | PatrickC_Pre2 | never seen it.. |
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18:25.38 | kevets | can't even use hash codes in this mode like the activation screen, had to pull battery |
18:26.00 | kevets | happened like 3 times on the trip home tomorrow while i was trying to coax it into getting a data signal |
18:26.41 | NuttyBunny | no idea :( |
18:27.29 | SineOt | yeah, never seen that or heard of it |
18:28.26 | kevets | sweet |
18:28.56 | kevets | i was hoping this was more of a newb issue lol |
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19:06.09 | th3vo1d | wow the vzw lte network is quite impressive |
19:06.20 | keith | agreed |
19:06.23 | PatrickC_Pre2 | isn't it down? |
19:06.27 | th3vo1d | of course, its not exactly saturated yet |
19:06.27 | keith | it was |
19:06.37 | PatrickC_Pre2 | ah its back up. good |
19:06.49 | keith | its pathetic how much more bw they put on the lte network vs the standard cdma one. |
19:07.23 | th3vo1d | order of magnitude increases |
19:07.53 | keith | what i heard is, the lte network is the old test network |
19:08.03 | keith | my friend showed me a nexus one with a verizon logo |
19:08.38 | keith | and pulled like 4 or 5 mbit on it |
19:08.47 | keith | cuz hes an android dev |
19:09.30 | keith | he made it seem like they got different backbones. |
19:09.45 | keith | i cant wait to get an lte device to do some traceroutes to see if i can tell. |
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19:12.29 | th3vo1d | ive never seen those kinds of speeds on evdo |
19:12.43 | th3vo1d | on any network |
19:13.49 | SineOt | that's what it'd have to be though, since the Nexus One isn't a 4G device :p |
19:14.42 | keith | ive seen 300KB on evdo |
19:14.44 | keith | on sprint in LA |
19:14.44 | th3vo1d | apparently, android 2.2 doesnt even support 4g naitively |
19:14.56 | keith | what do you mean 'support 4g natively' |
19:15.05 | keith | its just a ppp connection? |
19:15.43 | SineOt | it'd need an LTE modem |
19:15.58 | SineOt | or wimax modem |
19:16.19 | keith | heh |
19:16.27 | SineOt | it's a lot more than just a ppp connection, it'd be hardware too |
19:16.30 | keith | android is exposed a usb controller as the radio, IIRC |
19:16.36 | keith | to support 4g natively? |
19:16.41 | keith | what. |
19:17.06 | SineOt | android didn't support CDMA natively until 1.6 |
19:17.11 | keith | to android theres no difference between 1xRTT, EVDO or anything else. |
19:17.16 | keith | thats entirely different |
19:17.20 | th3vo1d | well im reading about the thunderbolt, which uses 2 cdma modems |
19:17.28 | SineOt | any support for it had to be hacked in by the device maker |
19:17.42 | SineOt | and LTE is totally the same? :p |
19:17.44 | keith | SineOt: i put android on an HTC touch in june, months before the g1 came out |
19:17.47 | keith | it was CDMA. |
19:17.52 | th3vo1d | one at 1x on the SoC and the evdo/lte on the seperate qualcomm chip |
19:17.59 | keith | dude, you gotta write a driver for anything |
19:18.02 | keith | thats not supporting it |
19:18.23 | keith | th3vo1d: unsurprisingly, it takes awhile to do a SoC w/ new tech combined |
19:18.40 | keith | but again, none of this answers the 'what do you mean by not natively supporting 4g'? |
19:18.49 | th3vo1d | a nice side effect is that it can do voice and data at the same time |
19:19.01 | keith | technically, GSM is the same way |
19:19.12 | keith | theres 2 radios, a GSM and a WCDMA one. |
19:19.26 | th3vo1d | "Android 2.2 lacks native awareness for 4G LTE. As a result, you get odd things hanging around like the 20 MB YouTube WiFi upload restriction, and the 128 MB mobile upload (for any connection) file size limitation." |
19:19.27 | keith | http://www.netmite.com/android/mydroid/development/pdk/docs/telephony.html |
19:19.34 | keith | see |
19:19.35 | keith | ppp. |
19:19.49 | keith | you always need to write a driver (what they call vendor RIL) |
19:20.04 | keith | this is old, but same idea |
19:20.15 | keith | th3vo1d: android supports 4g radios fine. |
19:20.25 | keith | how long ago did the evo ship? and what did it run? |
19:20.40 | keith | 2.1. |
19:20.57 | th3vo1d | i have no idea what android supports, nor do i really care, im just reading about it on anand |
19:21.03 | keith | link it then |
19:21.15 | keith | well i do know, and i care |
19:21.17 | th3vo1d | http://www.anandtech.com/show/4240/htc-thunderbolt-review-first-verizon-4g-lte-smartphone/6 |
19:21.41 | keith | dude |
19:21.44 | keith | did you even read it? |
19:21.51 | keith | As a result, you get odd things hanging around like the 20 MB YouTube WiFi upload restriction, and the 128 MB mobile upload (for any connection) file size limitation |
19:22.00 | keith | they mean it wasnt designed for 4g in mind. |
19:22.04 | keith | not that it doesnt support it. |
19:22.11 | th3vo1d | yes, "dude" i read it |
19:22.13 | keith | is that Android 2.2 lacks native awareness for 4G LTE. |
19:22.23 | keith | native awareness != support. |
19:22.32 | keith | well then, maybe try reading it again, this time using your eyes :) |
19:22.35 | th3vo1d | ok well blame anandtech for their terrible wording |
19:22.47 | th3vo1d | they do the same shit in their other hardware reviews |
19:22.47 | SineOt | how snippy :p |
19:23.01 | keith | yes anandtech is shit |
19:23.05 | keith | everyone knows that :) |
19:23.12 | keith | ars-technica is much better |
19:23.20 | th3vo1d | so why do you have such a hardon for android? |
19:24.26 | keith | why do you bring up stuff you claim not to care about nor know anything about? |
19:24.36 | th3vo1d | anyways, those speeds are damn impressive |
19:24.45 | th3vo1d | pings down under 100ms |
19:24.45 | keith | i care about android because its the future of embedded linux, sadly to say. |
19:25.06 | keith | i've been fucking with embedded linux for nearly 10 years now |
19:25.41 | th3vo1d | to be fair, i havent tried gaming over my pre connection |
19:25.59 | keith | ive gamed on evdo |
19:26.05 | keith | its tempermental at best |
19:26.11 | keith | evdo rev. a is ok |
19:26.17 | keith | but dont be moving past, say, 30mph. |
19:26.48 | keith | gsm does handle tower handoffs quicker, because of their poor implementation of the tech |
19:27.05 | keith | evdo is slower, but does a 'soft' handoff where it actually checks the tower to make sure it can take the call. |
19:27.12 | keith | gsm does 'hard' handoffs. |
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19:39.03 | kevets | so |
19:39.22 | kevets | here is the emergency mode i end up with https://picasaweb.google.com/kevets/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJuG04f9uYraEg#5600350187415511986 |
19:39.44 | kevets | when trying to get my data to work after reactivating my line on my pre |
19:42.09 | NuttyBunny | heh, weird, never seen that before :S |
19:42.09 | SineOt | weird, never seen that before |
19:42.20 | NuttyBunny | hey! stop repeating what I think!! |
19:42.23 | NuttyBunny | LOL |
19:42.47 | PatrickC_Pre2 | hay! stop repeating what I think!! |
19:44.21 | kevets | yeah so now i'm looking at this carrierdb.json file which seems to be full of stuff |
19:44.25 | scoinvPre | I'm interested in putting Android on Pre+. |
19:44.28 | kevets | wondering if something didnt get programmed right |
19:45.08 | PatrickC_Pre2 | scoinvPre: NuttyBunny is trying it |
19:45.29 | NuttyBunny | yep, not working yet |
19:45.35 | scoinvPre | cool! |
19:46.06 | NuttyBunny | I've managed to almost boot it with the webOS kernel, but it locks, and the guy says that is some sort of initialization problem even before it loads everything else |
19:46.11 | scoinvPre | I watched the YouTube video which showed it. |
19:46.46 | NuttyBunny | I've just finished a document here at work, I'm go grab some food while the Plus finishes calibrating its battery, and after that I'll try to see if I can find something else |
19:47.02 | NuttyBunny | I'm dying to play with that thing, we must reverse-engineer whatsapp :D |
19:47.59 | PatrickC_Pre2 | brb |
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19:50.29 | th3vo1d | oh god why |
19:50.47 | th3vo1d | how about putting webos on an android device? |
19:51.05 | th3vo1d | 800x480 webos would be nice |
19:51.44 | PatrickC_Pre2 | looks at Pre3 |
19:56.58 | NuttyBunny | too many things closed source :( |
19:57.38 | PatrickC_Pre2 | what's close source? webOS or Android? |
19:57.57 | NuttyBunny | webOS, the launcher for example :) |
19:58.34 | PatrickC_Pre2 | its in there somewhere I bet :) |
19:59.17 | halfhalo | webos as a whole is not open source |
19:59.34 | PatrickC_Pre2 | really? didn't know that.. |
20:01.17 | halfhalo | besides the oe core, webkit, etc everything else is closed source, including the applications built in. |
20:02.20 | PatrickC_Pre2 | the builtin apps are easily accessible, are they not? |
20:02.36 | halfhalo | they are, also distributed with the sdk |
20:02.36 | PatrickC_Pre2 | <PROTECTED> |
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20:03.00 | halfhalo | Does not mean they are open source |
20:03.16 | PatrickC_Pre2 | true... |
20:03.34 | PatrickC_Pre2 | hmm.. by what I was saying, all apps would then be open source :o |
20:04.50 | NuttyBunny | mmm... |
20:04.55 | NuttyBunny | well, I may said it wrong |
20:05.06 | NuttyBunny | we don't have the source for the binaries :P |
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20:09.41 | PatrickC_Pre2 | 50GB free online storage http://www.adrive.com/static/storageplans_basic |
20:14.24 | NuttyBunny | And so, I'm done here.. bbl, gotta go get something to eat :D |
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20:23.25 | GodShapedHole | hi guys, anyone up for some troubleshooting by any chance? |
20:23.57 | th3vo1d | shoot |
20:23.59 | Abyssul | Whats wrong? |
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20:24.38 | GodShapedHole | I just got a pre plus (yay) and doctored it to 2.1.0 with the appropriate doctor from the official palm page. |
20:25.01 | GodShapedHole | I tried to log into my profile but it hangs and won't continue after roughly two thirds |
20:26.23 | PatrickC_Pre2 | GodShapedHole: what carrier? |
20:27.01 | GodShapedHole | German O2 - phone is technically a vodafone pre plus, but it's unlocked and gets a good 3G signal |
20:28.08 | GodShapedHole | GAAH |
20:28.14 | GodShapedHole | DISREGARD |
20:28.36 | GodShapedHole | I waited for half an hour before logging on here and it hung for that half hour. But it just logged. |
20:28.50 | GodShapedHole | maybe it's an iPre because this is MAGICAL |
20:30.31 | GodShapedHole | Thank you guys anyway! |
20:30.52 | Abyssul | Hehe |
20:30.58 | Abyssul | Little patience :p |
20:31.26 | GodShapedHole | hehe, I'm usually patient but it's never taken this long on any of my previous doctoring experiences. |
20:31.57 | GodShapedHole | but hey any excuse to talk to other palm people over these great interpipes |
20:32.04 | Abyssul | Is the webos-internals twitter done talking about the geo-restrictions for the app catalog? Its been a little overwhelming |
20:32.31 | GodShapedHole | >_> it's a worthy subject though... |
20:33.05 | Abyssul | Yeah, but HP is only going to move so fast |
20:33.22 | GodShapedHole | HP needs to make the catalog international (and i'm usually loathe to say "needs" when I could also say "should") |
20:34.07 | GodShapedHole | I know, and actually I don't think now is the time for them to work on that issue |
20:34.49 | GodShapedHole | They should work on getting the new devices into international people's hands and then enable the catalog for them |
20:35.08 | Abyssul | Reading the twitter stream is a little ridiculous to me. Thats all |
20:35.37 | GodShapedHole | Reading any twitter stream has always felt ridiculous to me. |
20:35.42 | GodShapedHole | Cantankerous old fool, me |
20:36.04 | Abyssul | I only use it for webosinternals and some of my favorite bands |
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21:15.31 | NuttyBunny | plays angry birds while the battery calibrates :S |
21:15.51 | PatrickC_Pre2 | steals NuttyBunny's angry birds |
21:16.09 | NuttyBunny | gets angry :P |
21:16.22 | PatrickC_Pre2 | hehe |
21:16.40 | ctbeiser | Wouldn't that just make them angrier? |
21:16.55 | NuttyBunny | like in Rio? :D |
21:19.08 | ctbeiser | Fifty years of miniaturization, price decreases, and speed increases, and finally everyone can own a device that fits in their pocket with which they can shoot animated birds at peculiarly green pigs that whistle a catchy tune. |
21:19.21 | rwhitby | Abyssul: the guy who writes the webosinternals twitter is a fool - I'd unsubscribe if I were you. |
21:19.49 | ctbeiser | Waitaminute, I thought it was⦠I see what you did there. |
21:19.51 | Loudergood | indeed |
21:20.00 | PatrickC_Pre2 | lol |
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21:34.18 | kevets | damn, so it looks like there may be some files i should have grabbed off my 1.4.5 working phone before moving to 2.1 |
21:34.27 | kevets | now i cant seem to doctor back to an older version to try and get it |
21:36.21 | Loudergood | ? |
21:36.41 | NuttyBunny | what files? |
21:39.08 | kevets | grasping, saw this link about what the sprint guys have to do when updating http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_PRL_Update |
21:39.14 | kevets | since thats what my problem sounded like |
21:39.26 | kevets | /var/lib/software |
21:39.38 | NuttyBunny | ow.. |
21:40.41 | Loudergood | you have a verizon pre plus correct? |
21:42.59 | kevets | yes |
21:43.26 | kevets | so usually we just do the *228 but that hasn't helped |
21:45.07 | Loudergood | does your phone keep popping up messages about not being able to get data? |
21:46.37 | kevets | yeah, no response from network, network time unavailable kind of stuff |
21:47.00 | kevets | and under 2.1 i was getting Emergency Mode screens a bunch where it'd lock me out kinda |
21:47.25 | RagingMind | kevets, those instructions wouldn't do anything for you can't get from *228 |
21:47.49 | Loudergood | sounds more and more like you had a bad 2.1 doctor |
21:52.49 | kevets | think so? okay well maybe i am barking up the wrong tree |
21:53.05 | rwhitby | what did you build it on? |
21:53.06 | kevets | does it just need to be re-run sometimes? |
21:53.15 | kevets | built it in ubuntu |
21:53.26 | rwhitby | should be fine then. |
21:53.45 | kevets | is there any weird 64 bit / 32 bit stuff with the novatel drivers? |
21:53.57 | kevets | it detected it fine and i could use WebOS Quick Install without trouble |
21:54.10 | rwhitby | if it connects it's fine |
21:54.17 | kevets | yea it did |
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21:54.35 | rwhitby | and the doctor has an ipkg verification step, which if it succeeds means the transfer was not corrupted |
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21:55.38 | kevets | yeah 2.1 ran great on the phone, just wouldn't connect to 3g after doing *228 |
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22:18.37 | DraecosPre | is terminus broke atm? |
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22:24.50 | NuttyBunny | Guys, anyone knows how to disable the framebuffer in recovery mode? :D |
22:27.20 | NuttyBunny | *crick* *crick* ?? |
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22:55.12 | PatrickC_Pre2 | Preware keeps downloading/installing but doesn't pass that stage... |
22:55.51 | Loudergood | app catalog app? |
22:55.53 | NuttyBunny | close it, give it a few seconds, and open it again |
22:56.13 | PatrickC_Pre2 | Loudergood: patch |
22:56.20 | NuttyBunny | almost slaps PatrickC_Pre2 for installing an app catalog app with Preware |
22:56.39 | Loudergood | haha |
22:56.40 | PatrickC_Pre2 | didn't :) |
22:57.24 | Loudergood | well I've been having an issue recently where preware doesn't like to launch the software manager like it used to |
22:57.33 | PatrickC_Pre2 | same here |
22:58.08 | PatrickC_Pre2 | hrmm.. still doing it :/ |
22:59.01 | NuttyBunny | mmm... you could kill the service and run it again |
22:59.14 | PatrickC_Pre2 | with JStop? |
23:00.54 | NuttyBunny | nope, it's a service, you would have to run xterm or terminal or whatever suits you, look for the service with ps ax, then use the kill command to kill the program (use the first number, the PID), then ... run it again, but I don't remember where does it go ;) |
23:01.47 | PatrickC_Pre2 | I'll just reboot the phone lol.. or is that necessary? |
23:04.17 | NuttyBunny | yes, reboot it :) |
23:04.23 | NuttyBunny | 3, 4 times |
23:04.31 | NuttyBunny | the ones you need to do it ;) |
23:05.49 | NuttyBunny | aaaand.. it crashed. gotta go.. bbl |
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23:22.00 | *** part/#webos-internals PatrickC_Pre2 (~Patrick_C@unaffiliated/patrick-c/x-9440769) |