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| 00:27.05 | rwhitby | morning |
| 00:27.52 | NuttyBunny | rwhitby: everytime you greet, and I type "morning rod" ... it sounds sooo bad.... so ... Hi :) |
| 00:28.16 | rwhitby | ok .... |
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| 02:38.50 | PatrickC | found a bug in preware 1.5.8 . . . too bad is an old version |
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| 02:56.13 | smknutson | Hey Nutty |
| 02:56.24 | NuttyBunny | hey |
| 02:56.28 | smknutson | you free man? I got a question for you. |
| 02:56.30 | NuttyBunny | did it work? |
| 02:58.24 | smknutson | Just now about to do it lol |
| 02:59.45 | PatrickC | wonders what we're doing |
| 03:01.04 | smknutson | Im wondering the same thing Patrick |
| 03:01.42 | smknutson | So Nutty, to modify the installer.xml, would I open the .jar doctor file, change it then save?? |
| 03:02.07 | NuttyBunny | no, no, you create a meta doctor with the tokens as parameters |
| 03:02.40 | smknutson | ok. yeah that sounds ddifferent to me, Im sorry for asking so many questions but which file would I add the token to? |
| 03:03.32 | NuttyBunny | hehehe.. have you used meta doctor before? |
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| 03:03.51 | smknutson | Yeah, to make a sprint pre plus. Just a little confused as to where i'd add the DMSETS token |
| 03:04.14 | NuttyBunny | did you use one of the scripts? |
| 03:04.35 | smknutson | Yes, the 2.1.0 script |
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| 03:05.26 | DT | hey |
| 03:05.35 | DT | whats the prefered way to bypass sprint activation on 1.4.5? |
| 03:06.14 | DT | used metadoctor but first-run still launches |
| 03:06.41 | NuttyBunny | DT: really? are you sure you're running the correct file? |
| 03:06.47 | DT | pretty sure |
| 03:06.51 | DT | where is the good file located? |
| 03:06.56 | smknutson | DT, is it on a network? or does the pre have no account |
| 03:07.04 | DT | it has no account but a good ESN |
| 03:07.11 | smknutson | Do you want it to be with sprint? |
| 03:07.16 | smknutson | Just use Palm's Developer unlock tool |
| 03:07.20 | halfhalo | first run should by bypassed as well, right? |
| 03:07.22 | DT | link? |
| 03:07.33 | halfhalo | not just activation |
| 03:07.35 | NuttyBunny | smknutson: meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0 or which one= |
| 03:07.48 | DT | using 1.4.5 so i can clean my profile |
| 03:07.51 | DT | just dusted off the pre tonight |
| 03:08.10 | smknutson | NuttyBunny, thats the right one |
| 03:08.21 | smknutson | DT: im looking for ya |
| 03:08.30 | DT | thanks |
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| 03:08.54 | smknutson | DT: https://developer.palm.com/content/index.php?id=4522 |
| 03:09.06 | DT | thanks |
| 03:09.26 | smknutson | Thats what i used |
| 03:09.34 | DT | going to run that now |
| 03:09.40 | NuttyBunny | smknutson: do you have your new dmsets? |
| 03:10.12 | smknutson | I have it. should I follow the pre plussing routine? |
| 03:10.44 | smknutson | ie- <Val name="DMSETS" action="overwrite" value="xxxxxxxx"/> |
| 03:10.47 | smknutson | Like that? |
| 03:12.05 | NuttyBunny | no, like this: |
| 03:12.20 | NuttyBunny | CUSTOM_WEBOS_DMSET=556 CUSTOM_CARRIER_DMSET=560 scripts/meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0 |
| 03:12.34 | NuttyBunny | those dmsets are for preplus, at&t |
| 03:12.38 | smknutson | and that would be typed where? |
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| 03:13.18 | DT | ran it |
| 03:13.23 | NuttyBunny | the one that's in the webOS.tar file, goes in WEBOS_DMSET, and the one in sprint.tar goes in CARRIER_DMSET |
| 03:13.27 | DT | phone rebooted with webosinternals logo pulsing |
| 03:13.55 | NuttyBunny | DT: It should jump right into Luna |
| 03:14.06 | DT | it didn't |
| 03:14.08 | DT | fucking piece of shit! |
| 03:14.28 | IGNTNUNLMTD | question of somewhat ridiculous proportions: could one write a patch to literally flip the screen on a horizontal axis for the entire OS? |
| 03:14.57 | IGNTNUNLMTD | I have a feeling that's probably lower level than a patch |
| 03:15.02 | IGNTNUNLMTD | but I figured I'd ask |
| 03:15.30 | NuttyBunny | DT: What are you getting? |
| 03:15.48 | smknutson | brb nutty |
| 03:16.18 | NuttyBunny | IGNTNUNLMTD: the entire OS?? mmm... flip.. no, I don't think it would be easy :S |
| 03:17.08 | DT | i must have fucked up the flash |
| 03:17.12 | DT | restoring with stock doctor |
| 03:18.03 | IGNTNUNLMTD | what about individual apps? |
| 03:18.32 | smknutson | DT, once you run that tool and reboot, it should boot straight into luna |
| 03:20.00 | smknutson | Nutty, so installer.xml inside BOTH sprint.tar and webos.tar correct? |
| 03:20.12 | NuttyBunny | yep |
| 03:20.34 | Saij | anyone familiar with editing the systemui.css to include a transparent overlay over the background instead of palm default solid black? |
| 03:20.59 | smknutson | right ok, i see " <DMSet token="a"/> " ... inside of sprint.tar so that would be the sprint specific number yes? |
| 03:21.48 | NuttyBunny | yep |
| 03:22.11 | smknutson | So you are saying, I modify those and save them? or do I need to run a NEW metadoctor? |
| 03:24.26 | NuttyBunny | a new meta doctor |
| 03:24.52 | NuttyBunny | get the dmsets, and run the script again, with a command similar to what I wrote |
| 03:25.05 | NuttyBunny | CUSTOM_WEBOS_DMSET=XXX CUSTOM_CARRIER_DMSET=YYY scripts/meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0 |
| 03:25.27 | smknutson | replacing XXX with respective values? |
| 03:25.39 | NuttyBunny | yup |
| 03:27.19 | smknutson | Ok... I will try it |
| 03:28.06 | smknutson | Is auto install preware fixed in these new scripts? |
| 03:29.14 | PatrickC | it wasn't for me |
| 03:29.22 | smknutson | :( |
| 03:29.29 | PatrickC | yeah :/ |
| 03:29.35 | PatrickC | it borked my phone....... |
| 03:30.07 | smknutson | eff that |
| 03:30.55 | NuttyBunny | nope, won't work |
| 03:33.23 | rwhitby | borked your phone, yeah right. |
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| 03:34.33 | PatrickC | rwhitby: preware wouldn't run |
| 03:34.54 | PatrickC | it only tried to run when it installed, which was rarely |
| 03:35.08 | rwhitby | which is quite different from "borked my phone" |
| 03:35.27 | PatrickC | s/my phone/preware/ |
| 03:36.00 | rwhitby | which is why it is no longer enabled in the scripts |
| 03:36.38 | PatrickC | but its a choice.. so that's what messed me up :) |
| 03:36.48 | NuttyBunny | rwhitby: nothing like 2.1 on the Pixi... it borked my Pixi, not even the 1.4.5 Doctor wanted to help, recreated partitions and everything... I left it and the next day, the Doctor worked on the first try.. :) |
| 03:36.50 | Loudergood | don't you know a phone without preware is practically useless? ;) |
| 03:37.34 | smknutson | Yeah, I think HPalm should license it lol |
| 03:37.39 | PatrickC | haha |
| 03:37.47 | NuttyBunny | I always keep a 1.5.0 preware install ipk in my machine |
| 03:38.51 | smknutson | Here we go... creating the 2.1 doctor with the updated dmsets |
| 03:38.58 | smknutson | *fingers crossed* |
| 03:39.25 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: why? |
| 03:39.59 | NuttyBunny | PatrickC: after doctoring, first thing: dev mode, second: preware |
| 03:40.09 | PatrickC | why not 1.5.9? |
| 03:41.21 | smknutson | Ugggh ERROR 2 |
| 03:41.59 | PatrickC | hides |
| 03:45.39 | smknutson | Looks liek I have to nuke my meta-doctor directory and start from fresh |
| 03:46.56 | PatrickC | can't you make-clobber (or whatever the cmd is?) |
| 03:47.47 | smknutson | probably |
| 03:48.29 | NuttyBunny | Yep, always use a Pristine® meta doctor directory for your builds :) ©rwhitby |
| 03:49.04 | smknutson | hopefully ikts not VMbox being stupid and not expanding my virtual drive |
| 03:49.06 | smknutson | its* |
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| 03:54.08 | smknutson | this is gonna need another beer |
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| 03:54.36 | NuttyBunny | and my battery is almost dead |
| 03:54.46 | NuttyBunny | both the laptop's and the bunny's |
| 03:55.00 | PatrickC | lol |
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| 03:57.36 | DT | someone send me a pre2 |
| 03:57.38 | DT | thanks. |
| 03:57.43 | smknutson | crud... I forgot where to put the pre minus tokens in my pre plus meta-doctor |
| 03:58.05 | DT | webos doctor is about 4 times slower than using a HTC RUU |
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| 03:58.10 | PatrickC | DT: send me $250 thanks :) |
| 03:58.44 | DT | ;\ |
| 03:58.52 | DT | i emailed HP for the fucking coupon. |
| 03:59.25 | NuttyBunny | smknutson: CUSTOM_WEBOS_DMSET=XXX CUSTOM_CARRIER_DMSET=YYY scripts/meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0 <-- that? |
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| 04:01.09 | NuttyBunny | bah, in a couple of minutes this thing will hibernate and I left the charger at work |
| 04:01.17 | dwc- | whoops |
| 04:01.24 | DT | anyone remember the speed of the pres processor |
| 04:01.29 | DT | stock clockrate |
| 04:01.31 | smknutson | 500/600 |
| 04:01.31 | dwc- | 500mhz? |
| 04:01.35 | DT | ouch. |
| 04:01.39 | dwc- | underclocked from 600, I think |
| 04:01.47 | smknutson | "500/600" |
| 04:02.00 | smknutson | No nutty, I needed to dl 1.4.5 and modify the tokens before running the xcript |
| 04:02.09 | PatrickC | never runs stock |
| 04:02.44 | smknutson | Damn VMbox isnt expanding my virtual disk so now its full at 8GB and wont give me more! |
| 04:03.10 | PatrickC | delete the old meta-doc files? |
| 04:03.18 | smknutson | i deleted the whole directory |
| 04:03.25 | smknutson | Its all the updates |
| 04:03.32 | PatrickC | dang |
| 04:03.38 | smknutson | **** im gonna have to reinstall ubuntu |
| 04:03.43 | NuttyBunny | /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb |
| 04:03.46 | NuttyBunny | delete those |
| 04:03.54 | PatrickC | if you reinstall ubuntu, wubi it |
| 04:03.59 | smknutson | wubi? |
| 04:04.33 | PatrickC | wubi == Windows Based Ubuntu Installer iirc |
| 04:04.59 | PatrickC | it installs ubuntu for dualboot like a regular program in windows, and uninstalls just as easy |
| 04:05.01 | smknutson | wont let me delete those .debs nutty |
| 04:05.19 | smknutson | I use VMbox, Im too lazy to dualboot |
| 04:05.21 | PatrickC | let me get you a wubi link |
| 04:05.24 | PatrickC | lol |
| 04:05.32 | PatrickC | it takes like 5 min to do (if that) |
| 04:05.37 | PatrickC | you already have the iso? |
| 04:05.50 | smknutson | yeah, of 10.xx |
| 04:05.52 | PatrickC | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer |
| 04:06.03 | NuttyBunny | smknutson: you have to do it as root |
| 04:06.16 | smknutson | ugggh theres that nasty word: root |
| 04:06.20 | PatrickC | put the wubi file in the same folder as the iso, and run wubi :) |
| 04:06.23 | PatrickC | hah |
| 04:06.27 | smknutson | sweet thanks Patrick, thats my next project |
| 04:06.34 | PatrickC | np |
| 04:06.34 | NuttyBunny | sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.deb |
| 04:06.40 | PatrickC | I can help you if needed |
| 04:06.56 | smknutson | not tonight, already spending enough time fixing my doctor |
| 04:07.13 | smknutson | the wife assigns me a bedtime, the pc is in our bedroom temporarily lol |
| 04:07.27 | PatrickC | lol |
| 04:08.09 | smknutson | cannot remove .deb, no such diorectory |
| 04:08.25 | PatrickC | *.deb |
| 04:09.08 | PatrickC | smknutson: let wubi run in the background :) |
| 04:09.21 | smknutson | nvm im dumb |
| 04:09.27 | PatrickC | why? lol |
| 04:09.39 | smknutson | its late and im typing gibberish |
| 04:09.49 | PatrickC | lol |
| 04:09.50 | smknutson | obviously not enough beer |
| 04:09.51 | pawnshop73 | good evening. I have something of a puzzle on my hands... I seem to have 1 of my yahoo accounts set up as an IM, but I cannot appear to get the other configured as a messenger. Research on this seems to indicate that this was possible somewhere around 1.3.5 but is no longer available. question: anyone know a way to get a yahoo account configured as an IM acount these days on a Sprint Pre ? I've tried locating a 1.3.5 webosDocto |
| 04:10.02 | DT | does ANYONE use a sprint pre1 still? |
| 04:10.06 | DT | it's been something like 3 years |
| 04:10.11 | pawnshop73 | hangs head in shame |
| 04:10.15 | bpadalino | it hasn't been 2 years yet .. |
| 04:10.18 | PatrickC | raises hand sadly |
| 04:10.20 | DT | feels longer |
| 04:10.20 | pawnshop73 | I was downsized |
| 04:10.25 | DT | still, slow as dirt |
| 04:10.26 | DT | ah. |
| 04:10.37 | PatrickC | OC |
| 04:10.51 | DT | 2 years but we've gone from 500 mhz to dual core 1.2ghz devices |
| 04:11.05 | PatrickC | OC to 1.2GHz |
| 04:11.13 | DT | still single core with 128mb |
| 04:11.16 | DT | of ram |
| 04:11.37 | PatrickC | comms board swap to pre2 |
| 04:11.38 | pawnshop73 | yeah, OC helps alot, but ram still leaves me feeling like I'm in a Yugo |
| 04:11.41 | PatrickC | and OC to 1.4GHz |
| 04:11.41 | DT | still a slow device |
| 04:11.51 | DT | with a shit screen res |
| 04:11.53 | smknutson | Id like a pre 2 |
| 04:11.56 | DT | and, again, single core |
| 04:12.06 | smknutson | bah spoiled with this dualcore |
| 04:12.20 | PatrickC | likes his Pre2 at 1.4GHz |
| 04:12.20 | cryptk | I love my franken-Pre2 |
| 04:12.26 | PatrickC | hey cryptk |
| 04:12.32 | cryptk | hey PatrickC |
| 04:12.34 | smknutson | next its gonna be hexacore "but I have a dualcore... **** time to upgrade" |
| 04:12.42 | PatrickC | haha |
| 04:12.45 | smknutson | "it aint hardcore... unless its hexacore" |
| 04:12.53 | PatrickC | octacore |
| 04:13.05 | pawnshop73 | yes, agreed, pre1 is probably the slowest, worst WebOS hardware... and I still think it is a better os than my wife's droid |
| 04:13.22 | PatrickC | ummmmm... Pixi1 is definitely slower |
| 04:13.35 | PatrickC | much slower |
| 04:13.56 | pawnshop73 | will happily accept a pre2 donation to try a comms board swap |
| 04:13.59 | smknutson | triacontakaidicore |
| 04:14.41 | pawnshop73 | PatrickC: possibly. I never actually got my hands on a pixi |
| 04:15.05 | PatrickC | it has an Armv6 with a 400MHz processor iirc |
| 04:15.11 | PatrickC | and its sooooooooo slooooooow |
| 04:15.13 | pawnshop73 | ouch. |
| 04:15.31 | cryptk | is loving the exhibition slideshow when it is loaded up with pictures of the ladyfriend |
| 04:15.33 | PatrickC | yeah :/ |
| 04:15.33 | pawnshop73 | realizes it could be worse |
| 04:15.35 | smknutson | Pixi is 600Mhz |
| 04:15.42 | PatrickC | OCed |
| 04:15.44 | smknutson | but its a slower processor than the Pre |
| 04:15.46 | smknutson | 600 stock |
| 04:15.49 | PatrickC | its not stock 600MHz |
| 04:15.53 | PatrickC | really? |
| 04:16.04 | smknutson | its not the same processor as a pre |
| 04:16.08 | cryptk | different proc tech |
| 04:16.08 | PatrickC | I thought that it was OCed to 600MHz when I had one |
| 04:16.16 | smknutson | 600 stock |
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| 04:16.20 | smknutson | but a SLOW 600 |
| 04:16.29 | PatrickC | ^^yes!! |
| 04:16.34 | smknutson | my wife had one |
| 04:16.40 | smknutson | I couldnt bare to look at her using it |
| 04:16.44 | PatrickC | and even at 806.xx (I was daring) its slow! |
| 04:17.12 | PatrickC | so.. you got her a pre? :( |
| 04:17.15 | PatrickC | :) * |
| 04:17.18 | smknutson | (myriacore=10,000 cores) |
| 04:17.25 | pawnshop73 | so, back to my original question... anyone know how I may be able to set up a yahoo account as an IM account, or possibly where I can get a sprint pre 1.3.5 webos doctor? |
| 04:17.26 | smknutson | yes, then she broke it and went back to her BB |
| 04:17.40 | PatrickC | noooooo :'( |
| 04:17.48 | PatrickC | googleplexcore |
| 04:17.54 | smknutson | lol |
| 04:17.55 | smknutson | infinicore |
| 04:18.02 | smknutson | ooooh I should trademark that |
| 04:18.08 | smknutson | pawnshop |
| 04:18.15 | pawnshop73 | yes? |
| 04:18.16 | PatrickC | haha you should |
| 04:18.27 | smknutson | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#Pre |
| 04:18.47 | PatrickC | 1.3.5 isn't out for dl anymore afaik |
| 04:18.55 | DT | im sure someone archived it though |
| 04:19.00 | DT | YES |
| 04:19.04 | pawnshop73 | "NOTE: Since March 18th 2010, the Palm servers are no longer hosting old WebOSDoctor versions via the links below. The current versions are still available." |
| 04:19.10 | DT | got activation fixed, did the palm-launch com.palm.firstuse |
| 04:19.17 | smknutson | suck. |
| 04:19.20 | DT | have app catalog working without activation |
| 04:19.21 | pawnshop73 | yep |
| 04:19.24 | DT | sweet |
| 04:19.26 | pawnshop73 | I'd already been there |
| 04:19.52 | PatrickC | pawnshop: pre right? |
| 04:19.52 | pawnshop73 | yes |
| 04:19.54 | pawnshop73 | sprint pre |
| 04:19.56 | PatrickC | 2.1ify it |
| 04:20.12 | PatrickC | desktop OS |
| 04:20.16 | pawnshop73 | ok. I can't find that one either. |
| 04:20.26 | pawnshop73 | wait.. |
| 04:20.31 | PatrickC | you have to make it :) |
| 04:20.40 | pawnshop73 | realizes that is 2.1, not 1.2.1 |
| 04:20.41 | smknutson | lol |
| 04:20.48 | PatrickC | haha |
| 04:20.49 | smknutson | meta-doctor ftw |
| 04:21.00 | PatrickC | ^^ yes |
| 04:21.37 | PatrickC | pawnshop: desktop OS? |
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| 04:24.56 | smknutson | woooooo just got a SSD |
| 04:25.16 | PatrickC | cool |
| 04:25.36 | smknutson | Excited |
| 04:25.41 | PatrickC | uNiXpSyChO: what's the fastest you've had a Pixi/Plus? |
| 04:25.51 | DT | still slow as mollases |
| 04:25.59 | uNiXpSyChO | i dont have a Pixi :-) |
| 04:26.00 | DT | i am amazed everyone hasn't given up yet |
| 04:26.08 | smknutson | and Im dling the doctors for my 2.1.0 at 1.95M/s |
| 04:26.23 | SineOt | the fastest the Pixi has gone to was 906mhz, but at that speed it wouldn't boot on most hardware |
| 04:26.33 | SineOt | 846 is basically the fastest it'll ever get |
| 04:27.48 | PatrickC | its better the 600MHz |
| 04:29.11 | PatrickC | night |
| 04:37.04 | pawnshop73 | Windows 7 and Kubuntu 11.04 |
| 04:37.21 | pawnshop73 | sorry, SO distracted me |
| 04:37.56 | smknutson | my SO distracts me to |
| 04:38.05 | smknutson | by telling me to do this do that |
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| 05:29.35 | smknutson | **** damnit |
| 05:33.34 | pawnshop73 | ? |
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| 05:37.37 | smknutson | my sprint pre plus STILL wont login to my profile |
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| 05:43.04 | pawnshop73 | looks at his freshly doctored Sprint Pre 1 and has some sympathy... just not very much :-D |
| 05:43.14 | smknutson | lol |
| 05:43.19 | smknutson | i just bypass activation |
| 05:43.27 | smknutson | I lose some apps |
| 05:43.36 | rwhitby | smknutson: give me 15 mins and I might be able to help you |
| 05:44.12 | smknutson | +rhitby: alright, sounds good thanks |
| 05:44.53 | rwhitby | in the meantime, write up a story on pastebin.com which tells me exactly the history of the device and everything you've done to it. |
| 05:45.38 | rwhitby | or email it to me (you have my email address) |
| 05:45.55 | rwhitby | assume that I've forgotten everything you've told me in the past - start from scratch |
| 05:46.57 | smknutson | will do, give me 10 to grab some food and write it up |
| 05:47.05 | rwhitby | ok |
| 05:47.10 | smknutson | in the meantime Ill be relogging in to my pre. |
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| 05:55.19 | DT | how do I skip activation on webos2.0 without creating a fake palm profile like the official way to skip does |
| 05:58.58 | DT | fuck it, I WILL DEVISE MY OWN METHOD. HAHAHAH-- |
| 05:59.58 | pawnshop73 | rwhitby, would you per chance know where one could download a WebOSDoctor for WebOS 1.3.5 for a stock hardwre Sprint Pre? |
| 06:00.19 | rwhitby | pawnshop73: there is no such legally obtainable file. |
| 06:00.30 | pawnshop73 | I was afraid of that. |
| 06:00.44 | DT | someone sell me some newer hardware |
| 06:00.48 | DT | i want to do a comboard swap |
| 06:00.51 | DT | bored, you know |
| 06:02.21 | pawnshop73 | rwhitby, may I paste bin you a issue for your opinion? |
| 06:02.43 | rwhitby | sure, I can't guarantee a response though. |
| 06:02.47 | rwhitby | smknutson: ready when you are |
| 06:03.06 | smknutson | rwhitby, writing email as we speak |
| 06:03.08 | pawnshop73 | understood. |
| 06:03.53 | pawnshop73 | http://pastebin.com/13QkEUgc |
| 06:04.44 | DT | i wan't kidding. someone sell me a plus/pre2 |
| 06:05.26 | pawnshop73 | and thank you for all of your work in making my phone better. |
| 06:11.30 | smknutson | email sent rwhitby |
| 06:11.40 | rwhitby | pawnshop73: no idea |
| 06:11.54 | pawnshop73 | cool, thanks for looking |
| 06:12.11 | rwhitby | smknutson: what's the history of this device? |
| 06:12.29 | rwhitby | how did it get to be what it is today? |
| 06:12.42 | dwc- | you know, I seem to remember one of my friends with 1.4.5 telling me Y! didn't work |
| 06:12.45 | smknutson | started as a sprint pre and verizon pre plus |
| 06:13.29 | smknutson | it was working FINE until 5 days ago after a 1.4.5 doctor, then it would not log in again, prior to the doctor, it was working fine |
| 06:14.44 | smknutson | and after several doctors, including the one I used to create my working flash, it will not fix dmsets token |
| 06:15.10 | rwhitby | smknutson: so it's a verizon pre plus with a sprint pre comms board in it? |
| 06:15.21 | smknutson | correct. |
| 06:15.40 | DT | rwhitby |
| 06:15.57 | DT | is there a way to login to a palm profile on a webos2.1 sprint pre without activating that pre |
| 06:16.05 | rwhitby | smknutson: and the carrier token has been written to Sprint, right? |
| 06:16.23 | rwhitby | DT: ##DEVMODE# and Impostah |
| 06:16.30 | DT | Impostah? |
| 06:16.33 | DT | cool. |
| 06:16.50 | smknutson | rwhitby: as far as I know, yes. I have sms and phone calls and 3g service via sprint |
| 06:17.01 | rwhitby | smknutson: you should just be able to use a stock Sprint 1.4.5 doctor, right? |
| 06:18.02 | smknutson | I've been under the assumption that any doctor I use needs to be modified with my tokens - or am I able to use a stock untouched doctor? |
| 06:20.36 | rwhitby | for a sprint pre plus, you modify the tokens once, and stock doctor from then on |
| 06:21.11 | smknutson | ah. and for 2.1? |
| 06:21.50 | rwhitby | use the sprint-2.1.0 script and no changes in Makefile |
| 06:22.50 | smknutson | make a fresh meta-doctor, then makefile with remove carrier and model check. specify sprint and pre, and that's it? |
| 06:28.32 | rwhitby | don't do any of that. |
| 06:28.37 | rwhitby | use the sprint-2.1.0 script and no changes in Makefile |
| 06:29.02 | rwhitby | the remove carrier check is what's causing your dmsets problem |
| 06:29.09 | smknutson | understood |
| 06:29.23 | rwhitby | don't vary from the scripts |
| 06:29.45 | smknutson | learned my lesson. |
| 06:31.46 | smknutson | thanks for schooling me rod |
| 06:33.38 | DT | my god the old pre is so fucking slow |
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| 06:35.38 | smknutson | lol |
| 06:36.01 | smknutson | old pre? |
| 06:36.08 | DT | first one. |
| 06:36.14 | DT | and yeah, they are all old |
| 06:37.03 | smknutson | plus it |
| 06:37.45 | DT | i don't own a plus |
| 06:37.50 | DT | i'd rather have a 2 tbh |
| 06:40.10 | smknutson | yeah 2 would be better |
| 06:40.30 | smknutson | or 3 |
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| 07:20.04 | DTa | either it or the battery is dead. i'm not even getting the charging indicator |
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| 08:02.26 | rwhitby | DTa: FYI, we prefer to keep the language PG-13 in this channel, thanks. |
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| 11:04.21 | GarthPS | I have this |
| 11:04.23 | GarthPS | .PHONY: lvm-resize |
| 11:04.26 | GarthPS | lvm-resize: unmount unmount-fso lvm-setup |
| 11:04.35 | GarthPS | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.53 | GarthPS | but when I call lvm-resize my unmount dependencie is not executed because it has already been executed before lvm-resize has been called.. |
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| 17:20.49 | NuttyBunny | free__ test succesful |
| 17:21.17 | free__ | ok |
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| 17:36.04 | RagingMind | off topic, but awesome and worth sharing http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp |
| 17:39.12 | Cerealklr|School | Zombies are always tangentially on subject. |
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| 19:21.15 | preoccupied | hey guys, quick question. If I use MetaDoctor to bypass activation on a GSM Pre 2, can I later use Impostah to reactivate without doctoring the phone? |
| 19:21.50 | NuttyBunny | preoccupied: Of course!! |
| 19:24.14 | preoccupied | ok, thanks! |
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| 19:26.09 | preoccupied | Is there official documentation for Impostah? |
| 19:26.59 | NuttyBunny | preoccupied: mmm... I don't really think so, but there's a thread on PreCentral |
| 19:29.11 | preoccupied | ok, thanks |
| 19:30.28 | preoccupied | bbl |
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| 19:56.49 | sully__ | excuse me if I'm being foolish, but preware patches aren't working with 1.4.5.1 |
| 19:59.34 | NuttyBunny | sully__, Yes, that should be correct, there's no repository for 1.4.5.1 patches... yet |
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| 20:27.32 | Cerealklr | Have you guys seen Precentral this morning? Nova-Dartfish and the Pre Slab apparently popping up in logs now. =] |
| 20:27.43 | Cerealklr | (the former being a keyboard'd tablet) |
| 20:28.44 | SineOt | yup |
| 20:28.47 | SineOt | saw it yesterday |
| 20:29.01 | Cerealklr | Looks like with a touch of luck and some smoothtalking I'll be heading to the PDC |
| 20:29.06 | Cerealklr | Maybe I'll get to see it. =] |
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| 20:29.15 | Loudergood | we were talking about it in one of these channels yesterday |
| 20:29.37 | Cerealklr | It might explain why HP has been so oddly silent in terms of advertising |
| 20:29.43 | Cerealklr | perhaps they want to do a sort of ad-explosion? |
| 20:31.41 | SineOt | That's what I was figuring |
| 20:31.52 | SineOt | Launch the Pre3, TouchPad, and Veer together in a massive blow out campaign |
| 20:32.05 | Cerealklr | With just a hint of luck, they'll actually punch through |
| 20:32.17 | Cerealklr | and earn enough marketshare back to resume growth. |
| 20:32.25 | SineOt | Yup |
| 20:32.42 | SineOt | I as also conjecturing about that webOS Slate device that Sprint may or may not get in August |
| 20:32.57 | SineOt | and why if it does exist, it wasn't announced at the event on Feb 9th |
| 20:33.03 | Cerealklr | Ideas? |
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| 20:34.20 | Loudergood | maybe they learned about announcing things too far out? |
| 20:34.29 | SineOt | Well, there's the known codenames Mantaray and Stingray. Nice neat pair. One of them is the Pre3. ERGO. A Pre3 without a keyboard would be a perfect fit for the other code name. ERGO. It would need a good virtual keyboard. ERGO it wasn't announced because a good keyboard would require webOS 3.0, which isn't for phones yet. |
| 20:35.04 | Loudergood | I wonder about the apps thing sometimes....other than netflix what's missing that's not under development? |
| 20:35.10 | SineOt | And would be bad news to announce a device running 3.0 when the Pre3 will launch running 2.2 |
| 20:35.43 | Loudergood | and I bet dollars to donuts that netflix is under development |
| 20:36.21 | Cerealklr | Oh wow |
| 20:36.24 | Cerealklr | that makes |
| 20:36.26 | Cerealklr | perfect sense SineOt. |
| 20:36.28 | Cerealklr | =] |
| 20:36.35 | SineOt | So... Release it in August, after the Touchpad has been launched and baked for three months, so that the slate ships with 3.0 and the Pre3 can get its upgrade to 3.0 |
| 20:36.35 | Cerealklr | I was actually |
| 20:36.40 | Cerealklr | wondering as bit earlier about that |
| 20:36.51 | Cerealklr | mhmm |
| 20:36.54 | Cerealklr | on the other hand |
| 20:36.57 | Cerealklr | I'm a bit worried |
| 20:37.04 | Cerealklr | Apple has really been gearing up for something |
| 20:37.25 | Cerealklr | from my iFriends |
| 20:37.25 | Cerealklr | (or whatever else you call Apple Fanatics) |
| 20:37.25 | Cerealklr | Apparently they've been |
| 20:37.35 | Cerealklr | blacking out store windows and collecting employees phones. |
| 20:37.39 | SineOt | someone was talking about it earlier. It's probably going to be the iPhone 5 launching on Sprint, Verizon, and ATT come September |
| 20:37.54 | Cerealklr | We were chatting and (I hope) it's going to just be |
| 20:37.59 | Cerealklr | a big update to Mobile.me |
| 20:38.00 | SineOt | I think that's just a special retail event. Wouldn't make sense to launch something totally new out of the blue like that |
| 20:38.02 | Cerealklr | to compete w/ DropBox |
| 20:38.25 | SineOt | Yeah, or the launch of the iTunes cloud service |
| 20:38.29 | Cerealklr | If that's the case, then I think we can be confident that 3.0 will hold a significant edge in UI for a while |
| 20:38.32 | preoccupied | Cerealklr: I read the logs a few days back and I saw that you're working on exporting and import texts. How far are you with that? |
| 20:38.39 | preoccupied | sorry to interrupt |
| 20:38.43 | Cerealklr | Exporting to json is fully functional |
| 20:38.55 | Cerealklr | importing has been temporarily stalled, since I don't want to risk my phone |
| 20:38.59 | Cerealklr | and just got the emulator going today |
| 20:39.04 | Cerealklr | due to technical difficulties |
| 20:39.11 | preoccupied | awesome |
| 20:39.17 | preoccupied | thanks a lot for doing this |
| 20:39.22 | Cerealklr | My pleasure |
| 20:39.24 | preoccupied | i'm willing to donate |
| 20:39.26 | SineOt | Yeah, the Playbook is really half baked |
| 20:39.42 | Cerealklr | =] I'm glad to hear it, but since I did it in part for my own benefit |
| 20:39.54 | Cerealklr | I'd hate to go around banging the mug on the bars as it were |
| 20:39.55 | SineOt | Like, ULTRA half baked |
| 20:39.58 | Cerealklr | =P |
| 20:40.07 | Cerealklr | SineOt: Yea, I've already counted BlackBerry out |
| 20:40.38 | Cerealklr | preoccupied: In a day or two you'll see a new post on the forums about it with the scripts and instructions |
| 20:40.48 | preoccupied | Cerealklr: Ok. Well let me know if you need help / testing. I'm going out now but will be on later |
| 20:40.55 | Cerealklr | Sounds great, thanks! |
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| 20:41.34 | Cerealklr | Boy |
| 20:41.40 | Cerealklr | this has just been a great week for me all in all |
| 20:42.02 | Cerealklr | Anyway, I'm going to tidy the place up a bit |
| 20:43.17 | Cerealklr | Father gets home from a month or so of straight work in Oshawa and I'd like to greet him with something that doesn't resemble a pile of debris stacked up to waist height. |
| 20:44.50 | Cerealklr|Cleani | Wow, the truncation length on nicks |
| 20:44.55 | Cerealklr|Cleani | is much shorter than I remember it being |
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| 20:54.05 | Cerealklr | Does anyone know offhand how to run multiple instances of the Emulator (e.g. 1.4.5 and 2.1) |
| 20:54.20 | Cerealklr | I figured it'd leave a VDK around, or something accessible |
| 20:54.25 | PatrickC | install multiple SDK's iirc |
| 20:54.33 | Cerealklr | Hrmm, odd |
| 20:54.44 | Cerealklr | Must just be an artifact of my VirtualBox troubles then |
| 20:54.55 | Cerealklr | since it removed my previous entries when I tried that |
| 20:55.03 | PatrickC | What version of VBox? |
| 20:55.39 | Cerealklr | Well, 4.0 now. I could never get 3.4 fully working (my kernel is too new, and the path other people have used to make them compatible is inexplicably not working for me) |
| 20:56.11 | NuttyBunny | Cerealklr: it's your machine ;) |
| 20:56.16 | PatrickC | you run Ubuntu I imaging? :) |
| 20:56.25 | Cerealklr | NuttyBunny: I know that much, but not why yet! =P |
| 20:56.29 | Cerealklr | Mhmm, 11.04 |
| 20:56.59 | Cerealklr | IN fact, I may as well try this the old fashioned way |
| 20:57.07 | Cerealklr | and see if I can just track down the module it wants manually |
| 20:57.10 | Cerealklr | and install it myself |
| 20:57.35 | Cerealklr | what's the worst thing that can happen, I destroy install? Again? I'm used to it by this point. =P |
| 20:58.35 | PatrickC | haha |
| 20:58.45 | PatrickC | I use windows.. so.. yeah lol |
| 20:59.09 | Cerealklr | It's the strangest thing |
| 20:59.15 | Cerealklr | The only distros |
| 20:59.20 | Cerealklr | that have had this issue significantly |
| 20:59.26 | Cerealklr | are non-debians |
| 20:59.46 | Cerealklr | and here I am on Ubuntu which apparently thinks it is FreeBSD |
| 21:00.20 | Cerealklr | I mean, I know Canonical has been having an identity crisis but I didn't expect that to anthropomorphise my installation... |
| 21:00.24 | Cerealklr | =P |
| 21:04.43 | Cerealklr | by the way, while it's on my mind |
| 21:04.59 | Cerealklr | can anyone confirm that older versions of the SDK will still work in newer versions of VirtualBox |
| 21:05.06 | Cerealklr | or is my downgrade to 3.4 a permanent one? |
| 21:06.16 | SineOt | old versions work, but 4.0 breaks the VM install |
| 21:06.33 | Cerealklr | so the emulator won't work in it? |
| 21:06.38 | SineOt | it does |
| 21:06.44 | SineOt | but you just can't install new ones |
| 21:06.49 | Cerealklr | ohhh |
| 21:06.52 | Cerealklr | Okay |
| 21:06.54 | SineOt | the script they're using to install the SDKs doesn't work on 4.0 |
| 21:06.56 | Cerealklr | that's what I was hoping to hear |
| 21:06.59 | Cerealklr | =] |
| 21:07.01 | SineOt | but previously installed SDKs work on 4.0 |
| 21:08.58 | lemketron | huh, what? |
| 21:09.10 | lemketron | The 3.0 beta sdk works with VirtualBox 4.0, so just sign up for "early access" and download 3.0b4 |
| 21:09.29 | Cerealklr | lemketron: Hush. You signed an NDA. |
| 21:09.31 | SineOt | it does? |
| 21:09.34 | lemketron | we also posted the 1.4.5 and 2.1 images to the early access area so you can add those after installing the 3.0 sdk, and use all three. |
| 21:09.35 | Cerealklr | =P |
| 21:09.38 | NuttyBunny | lemketron: You DO NOT talk about Fight Club! |
| 21:09.45 | SineOt | lemketron: weren't there a bunch of "don't upgrade to 4.0" stuff? |
| 21:09.51 | lemketron | Yes, there WERE. |
| 21:09.57 | Cerealklr | ... |
| 21:10.03 | SineOt | ooooo~ |
| 21:10.04 | Cerealklr | lemketron: This channel is logged.... |
| 21:10.25 | lemketron | The 2.1 SDK does not work with vb4, but if vb4 (or Ubuntu 11.04) is important to you, you should apply for the early access program. 'nuf said. |
| 21:10.41 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: what fight club? :) |
| 21:10.44 | NuttyBunny | he already did ;) |
| 21:10.50 | lemketron | Cerealklr: I didn't sign an NDA; I fixed the emulator. |
| 21:11.07 | Cerealklr | Oh? |
| 21:11.16 | halfhalo | hah |
| 21:11.24 | SineOt | spoiler: lemketron works for Palm |
| 21:11.36 | Cerealklr | Well. I feel sillier than usual. |
| 21:11.43 | Cerealklr | Sorry about that! =] |
| 21:11.49 | lemketron | lol. |
| 21:12.15 | NuttyBunny | still, reminds me of "I didn't sign an NDA, I got the sprint 2.1 webos doctor from an HP link" |
| 21:13.15 | PatrickC | lol |
| 21:14.36 | lemketron | Totally unrelated, but cool picture of my LEAF's dashboard showing 105 miles of range left AFTER I drove to work today... http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemketron/5737403189/ |
| 21:15.28 | Cerealklr | That is |
| 21:15.29 | halfhalo | silly people with their silly cars that don't suck down gas like no tomorrow |
| 21:15.30 | Loudergood | don't lie, you live 4 miles up a mountain road ;) |
| 21:15.33 | Cerealklr | a gorgeous dashboard |
| 21:15.37 | Cerealklr | By the way |
| 21:15.43 | NuttyBunny | Bah, I want to be hugged by a polar bear as well :( |
| 21:15.44 | Cerealklr | Never seen the inside of a Leaf before |
| 21:15.53 | halfhalo | gets 11mpg |
| 21:16.06 | Cerealklr | is proud of his 18mpg city... =/ |
| 21:16.09 | PatrickC | gets 0mpg |
| 21:16.17 | Loudergood | that's the second picture of the inside of a leaf I've ever seen, oddly the first one was the same car |
| 21:16.18 | PatrickC | 1 on a good day |
| 21:16.26 | PatrickC | s/1/20/ |
| 21:16.27 | lemketron | Wow. 11mpg means it costs you about $.40/mile to drive. My LEAF costs me pennies per mile. |
| 21:16.29 | Cerealklr | Don't worry PatrickC, it's still better than NaN mpg |
| 21:16.33 | lemketron | Unless I charge at work in which case it's free. |
| 21:16.56 | PatrickC | lol |
| 21:17.01 | Cerealklr | Heheh, sounds awesome |
| 21:17.02 | PatrickC | charging station at work? |
| 21:17.06 | halfhalo | lemketron: yes, but my car goes vroom vroom and makes loud noises |
| 21:17.14 | lemketron | There's got to be a CD for that... |
| 21:17.14 | halfhalo | theoretically it gets 22 highway, but meh |
| 21:17.29 | lemketron | Maybe I can just download an MP3 of car engine noise to play... |
| 21:17.42 | NuttyBunny | lemketron, you got the version that charges over standard outlets? |
| 21:17.55 | Cerealklr | You could really confuse people and play an audio track of a Harley instead? |
| 21:17.56 | Loudergood | lemketron: no doubt someone will soon be selling it pair with a loud speaker to put under the car |
| 21:18.04 | Cerealklr | xD |
| 21:18.08 | Cerealklr | You sir are a genius |
| 21:18.25 | lemketron | Oh, and the webOS Bluetooth (A2DP/AVRCP) integration is pure awesome. When I get in the car, my phone re-connects, whether it's in my pocket or on the touchstone I mounted in the center console (need to post a picture of that). And when I turn the car on, whatever I was listening to when I got out of the car just starts playing again. |
| 21:18.31 | SineOt | Nah, that's going to be required pretty soon! |
| 21:18.47 | SineOt | Electric cars are way dangerous to pedestrians. |
| 21:19.00 | lemketron | No, there's an audible warning to let them know... |
| 21:19.10 | lemketron | and tire squealing and all. |
| 21:19.10 | Cerealklr | This sounds exciting. |
| 21:19.22 | Cerealklr | I can't wait for the PDC now |
| 21:19.31 | Cerealklr | Oops, looks like dinner has arrived. |
| 21:19.35 | lemketron | It's the future. Here today. No tailpipe. Solar powered even. |
| 21:19.36 | Cerealklr | Will be back in a bit |
| 21:19.45 | SineOt | the Leaf has the audible stuff? Thought that wasn't required just yet |
| 21:19.51 | Cerealklr | Au Revoir! |
| 21:20.15 | lemketron | Google: nissan leaf pedestrian sound |
| 21:20.47 | PatrickC | pedestrian sound? haha |
| 21:21.32 | SineOt | yeah, a prius at low speeds is way quiet |
| 21:21.35 | halfhalo | lemketron: you going to be at the touchpad events? |
| 21:23.04 | lemketron | Here's the personalized plate I'm still waiting for (should be here any day now): http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemketron/5738154460/ |
| 21:23.31 | PatrickC | haha |
| 21:23.53 | PatrickC | BBye Oil |
| 21:24.01 | lemketron | No offense to OIL, of course. |
| 21:24.16 | PatrickC | :P |
| 21:25.14 | halfhalo | wants to trade up from his gas sucking 03 highlander to a slightly less gas sucking but whole lot more fun to drive 2011+ 5.0L GT mustang convertible |
| 21:25.39 | PatrickC | why "whole lot more fun to drive"? |
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| 21:26.14 | halfhalo | beeecause its not an suv? and has handling rivaling the M3? |
| 21:26.41 | PatrickC | really? awesome! |
| 21:26.49 | SineOt | that VSP thing is pretty cool, lemketron. didn't know it was on the shipping leafs |
| 21:27.15 | PatrickC | doesn't keep up with foreign imports |
| 21:27.16 | SineOt | my dad got hit by a prius going slow enough that it wasn't making much engine noise, said he couldn't even hear it :C |
| 21:29.14 | lemketron | We took this one just for fun on our "test drive"... http://www.flickr.com/photos/lemketron/5717635569 |
| 21:29.32 | halfhalo | hah |
| 21:29.53 | PatrickC | lol |
| 21:38.44 | rwhitby | "where do I stick this?" |
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| 21:45.21 | Vic_Sage | where do I get linphone? |
| 21:45.48 | NuttyBunny | Please would be nice |
| 21:45.56 | NuttyBunny | and hi as well |
| 21:46.00 | Vic_Sage | please |
| 21:46.08 | Vic_Sage | do I have to sideload it? |
| 21:46.47 | Vic_Sage | hey nutty |
| 21:48.19 | Vic_Sage | how well is it working so far? |
| 21:48.52 | Vic_Sage | anybody home? |
| 21:49.43 | SineOt | Man, what is with people being way bossy about Linphone lately |
| 21:50.31 | Vic_Sage | I wasn't being bossy I was just wondering where I could get it and if I had to sideload it |
| 21:51.25 | Vic_Sage | SineOt: well you can save a lot of money on air-time if you are at home with a voip software |
| 21:51.42 | halfhalo | Just because you are on the internet does not mean manners are not needed. |
| 21:51.42 | Vic_Sage | wi-fi calling FTW |
| 21:51.49 | SineOt | yeah, but there's been a ton of people being bossy about it |
| 21:52.31 | Vic_Sage | may I please be a beta tester? |
| 21:53.49 | Vic_Sage | please with sugar on top? |
| 21:55.52 | halfhalo | if you stick around the people responsible for it will answer that |
| 21:57.00 | Vic_Sage | ok thanks I just got a palm pixi plus and I was really looking for this app would you know how well it works? |
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| 21:58.34 | Vic_Sage | I was about to get the t-mobile plan with the free wifi calling but the greedy pricks at T-Mobile won't let you use it with pre-paid |
| 21:59.54 | Vic_Sage | I don't travel enough to really bother with a $40-$50 cellphone plan |
| 22:01.17 | Vic_Sage | i'd rather pay $80 and get 2000 minutes that I can use over the period of a year |
| 22:01.42 | NuttyBunny | Does linphone work fine over EDGE? |
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| 22:05.14 | Vic_Sage | I really don't know as I haven't had the opporitunity to try it |
| 22:06.44 | NuttyBunny | I just say, because the only EDGE network I know and use is Telcel's in Mexico, and it's too slow to be usable |
| 22:07.16 | Vic_Sage | then I find that to be doubtful |
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| 22:12.57 | Vic_Sage | I was able to skype over dialup before |
| 22:13.04 | Vic_Sage | so maybe |
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| 23:59.29 | Vic_Sage | anybody on the linphone project here? |
| 23:59.45 | Vic_Sage | please let me know |