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03:22.52doug_I had to do an erase and reset. Now preware does not recognize the patches  have installed
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03:43.23rwhitbydoug_: whenever you erase and reset, you should do a doctor too
03:43.48rwhitbyotherwise the effect of the patches is still there, but the record of installation of the patches is not.
03:44.12doug_thanks. Never did a doctor. Will read up on it.
03:44.49rwhitbyalternatively, if you reinstall the patches from your Preware saved packages list, they should all realise that they have already been applied and silently install
03:51.58doug_saved package list only shows 6 of the patches. I have many more installed
04:00.38rwhitbydid you update your saved packages list before you erased?
04:04.11doug_no. Palm support had me delete preware firsy then erase. Thx to save/restoe much of my needed data was saved but they didn't warn me what the erase would do.
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05:44.54pcwiz84yay! it works!
05:45.25pcwiz84now if only it continued to work AFTER a reboot. I wonder
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05:52.10PatrickC_Schoolhas the 2.1 VZW doctor come out yet?
06:14.55dwc-check the webpage?
06:15.39Patrick_CI was wondering cause I made the updated sprint meta-2.1 doctor and it downloaded the 2.0.1 vzw pre2 doctor
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14:19.11lexihow do I put my phone in developer mode
14:21.24uNiXpSyChOtroll
14:22.12phoquelexi: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Getting_started#Enabling_Developer_Mode
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14:57.52PatrickC_Awayunixpsycho: haha
15:03.38ka6sox-homedon't feed the trolls
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16:46.34PatrickCsave/restore is taking forever to load :/
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17:53.51chris4242good day
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17:54.45SimpsonTPhi all
17:54.55SimpsonTPis top available on the pre ?
17:55.37ka6sox-homeyes
17:58.16SimpsonTPWebAppMgr is the main process running the apps ?
17:58.56ka6sox-homeI might be wrong but I thought it was LunaSysMgr...but I am probably wrong.
17:59.41SimpsonTPI'm facing unusable slow performance on my pre+ now an then
18:00.07SimpsonTPat that time WebAppMgr has like 80% processor time
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19:32.40zandidamn. isn't there some way i can pull a file from phone to pc with novacom?
19:32.51zandior am i stuck with putting it on the jump drive?
19:33.46Loudergood?
19:34.09zandithere's a file on my pre- i want on my PC.
19:34.30zandican i move that over with novacom, or do i have to switch modes so i can access the filesystem like a jump drive?
19:34.44Loudergoodyou should be able to use novacom
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19:34.55Loudergoodthere's even a gui called novabrowser in the sdk
19:35.01zandireally?
19:35.41Loudergoodexcuse me, device browser
19:35.47LoudergoodDeviceBrowser.jar
19:36.31Loudergoodand it's in the PDK
19:36.35Loudergoodarea
19:36.47zandiah, found it
19:36.48zandithanks
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20:13.53dtzWillhttp://theoatmeal.com/comics/smartphone
20:14.04dtzWilllolol particularly http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/smartphone/10.png
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21:25.44Error454Has anyone with touchpad access been able to capture uname output?
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21:28.20rwhitbyYes.
21:28.36Error454rwhitby: Do you know the kernel version?
21:28.42rwhitbyI do.
21:29.07Error454rwhitby: Will you share it?
21:29.14rwhitbyI cannot.
21:29.26Error454rwhitby: Can you post it in the early access forums?
21:29.54rwhitbyI cannot.
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21:30.46rwhitby(kernel version depends on what firmware is running)
21:32.00Error454rwhitby: What dictates the firmware? Wireless vs 3G?
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21:33.50rwhitbyNeither of those.
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21:34.43SimpsonTPare there vendors out there who ship the touchpad outside their operating country ? ( I'm in .nl and can't buy the touchpad here )
21:35.27rwhitbySimpsonTP: I think you should look harder.  I know of at least one vendor in .nl who will be selling TouchPads
21:35.57SimpsonTPoh ?
21:36.10Error454I guess I'll find out when my touchpad arrives, I was eager to start digging through the appropriate kernel.org tree to see which USB modules are available.
21:37.55SimpsonTPrwhitby, any hint ? since on the dutch forums I only saw rants about no plans to ship to holland
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21:41.55SimpsonTPrwhitby, you mean this expansys group, so far they only imported stuff or sold refurbished
21:42.02rwhitbyError454: you can be sure that a lot of information will become available on July 1
21:43.08Error454Any idea what the average historical time has been between the open source postings and official product release?
21:43.39rwhitbyit's usually a couple of weeks to a month after it's requested after doctor is available.
21:44.49Error454I'm just a little overly excited, I will try to compose myself for the next month.
21:48.01rwhitbyError454: previous webOS devices have including the Config file in the filesystem, which would have that info in it.
21:51.52Error454rwhitby: Sure, once I have novaterm access I'll have plenty of details
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22:01.40PatrickCif I unzip a doctor, replace the files in /media/internal with the ones off of my old /media/internal will the doctor place the files??
22:09.34zandiwait, you mean if you modify the rootfs tarball?
22:10.11zandieither way, i'm pretty sure /media/internal is mounted to and some other stuff is done to it, so just that won't work
22:10.40zandimight wanna try putting the files in a 'safe' folder, then throw a script in /etc/init.d/rc2.d (or whatever) to cp them over
22:13.47rwhitbyPatrickC: no
22:14.18PatrickCrwhitby: how does the meta-doctor backup/restore it?
22:14.35rwhitbymagic
22:14.40PatrickClol
22:14.55rwhitby(decompile the java to find out)
22:15.10PatrickCunzip it?
22:15.21chpwnno, decompile
22:15.26chpwn:)
22:15.39rwhitbydepends how advanced your unzip client is ;)
22:15.48PatrickC7zip :)
22:15.53rwhitbyno
22:16.06PatrickChrmm.. what client would do it?
22:16.15Error454javac
22:16.38summatusmentisPatrickC: advanced unzip client was a joke
22:16.38rwhitbyone you wrote that included jad or jode
22:17.35chpwnhm, i wonder if IDA supports java.
22:18.03chpwnyep, cool: "Java Virtual Machine (comes with source code)"
22:22.01rwhitbyuses jd-gui
22:22.18rwhitbymeta-doctor uses jad
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22:29.18chris4242hi there
22:29.41chris4242anyone here with experience with the axaj calls?
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22:48.36shep1234Hi there, just making myself known to try the alpha linphone. Never used IRC before o forgive any faux paus. I have a Pre2 and have used SIP clients on iPhone, Android & Symbian
23:03.54shep1234HEOOLO
23:04.11shep1234HELP
23:04.16shep1234@HELP
23:08.19PatrickCshep1234: be patient.. not many people are active..
23:14.15uNiXpSyChOanother troll
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23:17.51PatrickChahahaha
23:18.05PatrickC<PatrickC> shep1234: be patient.. not many people are active..
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23:39.45rwhitbyshep1234: see /msg and report in PreCentral thread
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23:56.39PatrickC~kick oil
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