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| 01:10.54 | damastah | is anyone here? |
| 01:13.08 | Lumiere | no |
| 01:13.17 | Lumiere | plays the sounds of crickets chirping |
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| 01:34.23 | DieterBohn | Hello |
| 01:34.30 | summatusmentis | hi |
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| 01:34.49 | summatusmentis | I didn't know you came in here |
| 01:34.55 | bubby323 | rwhitby i use make backup with the device plugged in? |
| 01:34.58 | DieterBohn | Not often, it's too much info ;) |
| 01:35.07 | summatusmentis | hah, fair enough :) |
| 01:35.16 | DieterBohn | was hoping somebody could direct me to the right testing feed for full-screen wIRC for the touchpad |
| 01:35.24 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: hi |
| 01:35.30 | DieterBohn | Hi rwhitby |
| 01:35.53 | DieterBohn | really nice job on full-screen preware |
| 01:35.53 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/org.webosinternals.wirc_0.4.5_arm.ipk |
| 01:36.18 | rwhitby | thx |
| 01:36.46 | rwhitby | just setting up the 3.0.0 feeds now ... |
| 01:36.55 | DieterBohn | rwhitby odd I don't see it listed, I should install manually then? |
| 01:37.09 | rwhitby | you can install from that URL with Preware |
| 01:38.03 | Lumiere | is going to attempt to get a Touchpad tomorrow and try to take calls on it from his Pre- :) |
| 01:38.14 | bubby323 | Pre - works |
| 01:38.23 | bubby323 | It was confirmed on the PC forums |
| 01:38.29 | Lumiere | I know |
| 01:38.32 | chpwn | I wonder why it's limited to webOS devices, though: isn't the TouchPad just emulating a car headset? |
| 01:38.35 | Lumiere | but I want to try it myself :) |
| 01:39.15 | summatusmentis | I expect the reason it's limited to webos devices is purely competitive edge |
| 01:39.34 | summatusmentis | wouldn't want iphone users to be able to do the same thing now would we? :-P |
| 01:39.42 | Lumiere | actually |
| 01:39.44 | summatusmentis | (conjecture, I have no idea) |
| 01:39.45 | Lumiere | we WOULD :) |
| 01:39.56 | Lumiere | because then iphone users could use webos |
| 01:40.04 | Lumiere | and we can wean them from their shackles |
| 01:40.05 | Lumiere | :) |
| 01:40.15 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 01:40.51 | DieterBohn | rhwitby success! Thanks a ton! |
| 01:41.23 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: np, enjoy. let us know of any missing back buttons. |
| 01:41.37 | DieterBohn | will keep an eye out |
| 01:41.43 | DieterBohn | I have to go brag to Josh now ;) |
| 01:42.14 | chpwn | I like the Preware back buttons more than the wIRC ones myself. |
| 01:42.24 | bubby323 | rwhitby I tried make backup with no luck. |
| 01:42.30 | bubby323 | But I can run novaterm |
| 01:43.07 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: you could teach him how to use Govnah to show the TouchPad CPU speed too ... ;) |
| 01:43.15 | DieterBohn | =] |
| 01:43.25 | DieterBohn | straight mojo version work or is there a special one rwhitby? |
| 01:43.42 | rwhitby | let me check if I pushed it |
| 01:44.06 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: 0.9.2 is a full-screen app |
| 01:44.13 | DieterBohn | 0.8.3 is what I see in the feed |
| 01:44.28 | rwhitby | you must not have the app testing feed enabled |
| 01:44.47 | rwhitby | or you've only got one of the two URLs added for it |
| 01:45.03 | rwhitby | http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/org.webosinternals.govnah_0.9.2_arm.ipk |
| 01:45.46 | bubby323 | ? |
| 01:45.48 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: the graphs still need some work |
| 01:45.53 | DieterBohn | ah app testing feed, couldn't find the url for that |
| 01:46.03 | rwhitby | ~testing-feeds |
| 01:46.03 | infobot | [testing-feeds] a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds |
| 01:46.42 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: once oil gives the Govnah graphs some HD love, we'll push that to public feeds |
| 01:46.47 | DieterBohn | rwhitby I installed ALL and armv7 |
| 01:47.08 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: did you give them unique feed names? |
| 01:47.20 | DieterBohn | whoa 192MHz - is that accurate. It throttles down that low? |
| 01:47.26 | rwhitby | yep |
| 01:47.28 | DieterBohn | rwhitby I think so |
| 01:47.36 | rwhitby | screen goes down to 30Hz too, and single processor. |
| 01:47.44 | halfhalo | 192mhz. on one core only. |
| 01:47.53 | halfhalo | this thing rocks. |
| 01:49.09 | DieterBohn | rwhitby I get a bootload of errors when I update feeds. did I screw something up then or is that normal? |
| 01:49.27 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: if the errors all have 3.0.0 in them, retry in an hour |
| 01:49.35 | DieterBohn | wilco. |
| 01:49.45 | DieterBohn | kk thanks a TON for your help, will letcha get at what you want to get at |
| 01:49.56 | DieterBohn | Ping me if you've got something you want me to see :) |
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| 01:50.15 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: actually, should work now |
| 01:50.34 | rwhitby | give it another try, and screenshot any errors |
| 01:50.41 | DieterBohn | rwhitby emailing now |
| 01:51.04 | rwhitby | (and I mean "just now", not 5 minutes ago, cause it just pushed) |
| 01:52.37 | bubby323 | ..? rwhitby |
| 01:52.59 | rwhitby | ~utsl |
| 01:52.59 | infobot | methinks utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). Real Men don't write documentation; if it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 01:53.12 | rwhitby | bubby323: the Makefile has all the code |
| 01:53.17 | bubby323 | I know |
| 01:53.21 | DieterBohn | rhwitby emailed you error screen and list of feeds I have enabled |
| 01:53.24 | bubby323 | I ran make backup and nothing |
| 01:53.26 | PatrickC | hey rwhitby and DieterBohn |
| 01:53.33 | DieterBohn | howdy patrickc |
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| 01:55.16 | rwhitby | bubby323: the backup target requires the device to be in memboot recovery installation mode. but you said you just wanted the tar commands, which are all there. |
| 01:55.59 | rwhitby | DieterBohn: haven't seen it yet |
| 01:56.00 | halfhalo | just because I can... I'm going to try to make a metadoctored doctor on a device. |
| 01:56.17 | rwhitby | should work in your chroot fine |
| 01:56.20 | PatrickC | tried to make a meta-doctor on device |
| 01:56.22 | PatrickC | didn't work |
| 01:58.08 | rwhitby | PatrickC: that's cause you incorrectly expected it to work as-is on an OpenEmbedded rootfs, and didn't make any effort to debug why it didn't. |
| 01:58.31 | rwhitby | that's like trying to cut your fingernails with a power saw. |
| 01:58.46 | halfhalo | blindfolded. |
| 01:59.23 | PatrickC | rwhitby: I mounted the folder outside of /media/internal where I would have proper access and it didn't work |
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| 01:59.37 | rwhitby | "it's a cutting device, let's see whether this works ..." |
| 01:59.50 | chpwn | DieterBohn: I saw your name on the list for a webOS/TouchPad meetup tomorrow, do you know more about that? (what's going on, who's running it, etc) |
| 02:00.00 | DieterBohn | chpwn nope |
| 02:00.05 | PatrickC | brb |
| 02:00.07 | chpwn | k |
| 02:00.25 | PatrickC | rwhitby: I worked on it for like 3 hours with NuttyBunny |
| 02:00.25 | chpwn | still not sure if i'm going to go :/ |
| 02:00.29 | rwhitby | PatrickC: you realise how ineffectual a statement like "it didn't work" is? |
| 02:00.54 | PatrickC | I got to the file thing where you had to run the script, and it wouldn't run |
| 02:01.04 | rwhitby | "the file thing" |
| 02:01.11 | PatrickC | I forget the reason, but it even stumped NuttyBunny |
| 02:01.22 | Ted__ | Hey, Rod, it's Ted, we spoke a few weeks about about a GSM Coms board in a Sprint Pre. Do you have a moment? |
| 02:01.22 | halfhalo | "the thingie with the things that do that thing" |
| 02:01.33 | rwhitby | I didn't see a pastebin of what you did and what didn't work. As always, that should be the first thing you do when reporting a problem. |
| 02:01.47 | rwhitby | Ted__: what's up |
| 02:01.49 | PatrickC | I did, to him |
| 02:01.53 | PatrickC | brb |
| 02:02.30 | Ted__ | Hi Rod, first off I want to apologize about not updating the Wiki yet -but I just got the Sprint Pre today (some family issues came up, and I just didn't get around to the project) |
| 02:02.31 | rwhitby | PatrickC: but you just made a statement that it didn't work, in this development channel, without showing that log. |
| 02:03.10 | PatrickC | when I was doing it, I gave him everything the log showed me |
| 02:03.14 | PatrickC | I did not come here |
| 02:03.24 | PatrickC | you told me I was on my own when I asked for help |
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| 02:03.40 | PatrickC | so I tried to solve the problem without coming back here |
| 02:03.41 | rwhitby | PatrickC: correct. |
| 02:04.03 | Ted__ | But, anyway, I used the script you reccommended "./scripts/test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0" and I'm having a hard time getting the doctor to work. |
| 02:04.31 | rwhitby | Ted__: there is no such script in the latest version of MetaDoctor |
| 02:04.43 | Ted__ | Well that could be a problem, then! |
| 02:04.50 | Ted__ | I feel so stupid! |
| 02:05.48 | Ted__ | I guess that's what I get for waiting so long, yeah? Anyway, let me run the update script in Ubuntu to get cd meta-doctor up to date. What's the new script, mate? |
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| 02:06.30 | rwhitby | what's the hardware configuration you're flashing? |
| 02:07.33 | Ted__ | I'm putting an AT&T coms board in a Sprint Pre |
| 02:07.48 | rwhitby | have you changed any tokens? |
| 02:07.54 | Ted__ | Also, forgive me if I go offline, there's a massive storm in my location, going to turn on back up power real quick. |
| 02:08.01 | rwhitby | if not, use meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 |
| 02:08.12 | Ted__ | No, you told me it was not nessessary (though reccomended). |
| 02:08.19 | Ted__ | Okay, thank you so much! I'll be right back! |
| 02:08.47 | rwhitby | Ted__: make sure you capture the full log of download, running, and flashing |
| 02:09.08 | rwhitby | when people post full logs, problems are usually solved in seconds |
| 02:09.23 | rwhitby | when they don't, guessing about the problem takes days |
| 02:09.40 | Ted__ | Alright, I'm back! |
| 02:09.49 | rwhitby | Ted__: make sure you capture the full log of download, running, and flashing |
| 02:10.09 | Ted__ | Now, what do you mean capture the full log? (I've fairly new to useing a terminal/linux) |
| 02:10.49 | rwhitby | I want to see everything you see, from when you git clone the meta-doctor to when the script runs the doctor and shows the log of it's operation |
| 02:10.59 | rwhitby | how you capture that is specific to your system |
| 02:11.57 | Ted__ | Well, I've never done this before, but I'm using Ubuntu. I just updated my software, and I'll run the new script, if it doesn't work, I'll work on getting the log. :D |
| 02:13.12 | Ted__ | Hm...is says "command not found" when I type it in. |
| 02:13.29 | Ted__ | I musn't have updated correctly -joys of being new to an OS. |
| 02:14.42 | rwhitby | Ted__: are you following the wiki page? |
| 02:15.08 | Ted__ | I am now, since the normal "sudo apt-get update" command didn't work. |
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| 02:16.31 | Ted__ | The doctor is building! |
| 02:17.24 | Ted__ | Rod, I'm also new to editing Wiki's, and have enrolled in several summer school classes, but I have the full intention on getting this information up asap. |
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| 02:43.48 | Ted__ | Update: still building the doctor, the code flashing on the screen looks a lot more "legit" than it did with the first doctor I made. |
| 02:45.15 | bubby323 | Ted__ what doctor are you making? |
| 02:45.20 | bubby323 | curios |
| 02:45.28 | bubby323 | *curious |
| 02:46.50 | Ted__ | ./scripts/meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 |
| 02:47.01 | Ted__ | I've put a AT&T coms board in a Sprint Pre |
| 02:52.30 | Ted__ | Why am I forgetting this -does the pre have to be off to doctor? |
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| 02:53.16 | bubby323 | Yes |
| 02:53.32 | Ted__ | I'm so stupid...I haven't doctored in months, thanks! |
| 02:53.35 | bubby323 | Pull the battery and then usb cable in with power+volume up |
| 02:55.40 | rwhitby | Ted__: See the Recovery page on the wiki |
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| 03:00.52 | Ted__ | It just kicked me at 4%, and the phone booted (looking at the wiki) |
| 03:01.55 | bnceo | Ted__: You put a AT&T comm board in a Sprint Pre? |
| 03:02.07 | bnceo | I wonder why you would do that. Plenty of AT&T Pre Pluses out |
| 03:02.53 | Ted__ | I'm just doing it for fun, I have a pre plus. |
| 03:03.15 | Ted__ | I broke my first pre plus in the shop, and my buddy had a dead sprint pre from a FrankenPrePlus |
| 03:03.24 | Ted__ | So I'm trying to put the two together |
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| 03:08.10 | Ted__ | I'm not seeing anything about being kicked out at 4% on the Wiki page, only 8%. |
| 03:11.15 | Ted__ | Any advise, Rod? |
| 03:11.22 | rwhitby | Ted__: logs? |
| 03:12.02 | Ted__ | Hm, what's the best way to gather the? |
| 03:12.29 | Ted__ | "Jun 30, 2011 10:12:12 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.runner.DeviceDiscoveryRunner$DeviceDiscoveryThread run INFO: got devices 0" |
| 03:12.57 | Ted__ | That's the last line that continues to repeat again, and again (I'm sure you need more, but I thought I should mention it) |
| 03:13.13 | PuffTheMagic | 11h till TP |
| 03:13.46 | PatrickC | jumps up and down!!! |
| 03:16.05 | Ted__ | Oh my lord... |
| 03:16.17 | PatrickC | what? |
| 03:16.21 | Ted__ | I just read the wiki more carefully, I see this is a common problem. |
| 03:16.42 | Ted__ | I need to read more carefully, sometimes. I'm going to trouble shoot more before askign any further help. Cheers! |
| 03:21.48 | bnceo | Ted__: how are you doing your meta doctor? |
| 03:21.56 | bnceo | Linux? |
| 03:22.18 | PatrickC | hey bnceo |
| 03:22.32 | rwhitby | Ted__: unplug and replug the device when the doctor is waiting for it like that |
| 03:22.55 | bnceo | yo PatrickC: what's up |
| 03:23.10 | PatrickC | nothin much. just waiting on my touchpad :) |
| 03:23.21 | bnceo | Me too. tomorrow before 7pm |
| 03:23.27 | bnceo | though I have to wait longer for the TouchStone |
| 03:23.33 | PatrickC | has to wait for a dev discount |
| 03:23.36 | PatrickC | don't have $478 |
| 03:23.45 | bnceo | really annoying that no accessories at launch |
| 03:23.50 | PatrickC | + 10% sales tax |
| 03:23.52 | bnceo | I just went Amazon store card |
| 03:23.56 | bnceo | no sales tax and boom |
| 03:24.32 | PatrickC | Sam's Club has it for $478 and $578 |
| 03:24.33 | PatrickC | iirc |
| 03:24.43 | bnceo | no Sam's Club near me |
| 03:24.50 | PatrickC | ah |
| 03:24.56 | bnceo | got a Costo, but not a member. BJs member tho |
| 03:25.00 | PatrickC | we are there almost everyday lol |
| 03:25.14 | summatusmentis | you need to be a member at sams club too |
| 03:25.20 | PatrickC | id wait for the dev discount if I were u.. just sayin |
| 03:25.27 | bnceo | yes summatusmentis: I know =) |
| 03:25.33 | summatusmentis | kk, just clarifying |
| 03:25.34 | PatrickC | I've heard from a good source that it'll be a good discount.. :) |
| 03:25.44 | bnceo | too late. and I don't have an active app anyways |
| 03:25.44 | summatusmentis | PatrickC: care to name your source? |
| 03:25.57 | bnceo | I did some very minor app for my job that was just our days off |
| 03:25.59 | bnceo | holidays |
| 03:26.00 | PatrickC | nope.. I don't want to get anyone in trouble |
| 03:26.04 | PatrickC | but I trust them |
| 03:26.10 | bnceo | Done in Ares. But I don't deserve the dev discount |
| 03:26.13 | summatusmentis | ok, just curious |
| 03:26.24 | bnceo | At least for the TouchPad. I do deserve one for the PRe2 tho =) |
| 03:26.25 | PatrickC | they said final price == $250... |
| 03:26.26 | summatusmentis | bnceo: depends on how you define "deserve" |
| 03:26.48 | bnceo | I know I'm not a dev that makes catalog apps. In fact, I'm VERY noobie. I got ideas, but no way to really implement them |
| 03:26.57 | PatrickC | id be very happy with a touchpad for $250 :D |
| 03:27.19 | PatrickC | bnceo: PM me, and I'll try and help you get started |
| 03:27.20 | summatusmentis | bnceo: if you think of developer pricing as an "investment in the community" by HP, and a way for people to start coming up with ideas, arguably anyone "deserves" it |
| 03:27.24 | PatrickC | with SDK/Enyo |
| 03:27.37 | bnceo | well, I'm going to bed soon |
| 03:27.53 | PatrickC | ok. |
| 03:27.57 | bnceo | But PatrickC: so far, I only have really coded with basic HTML and some XML (for work) with a given stylesheet |
| 03:28.00 | summatusmentis | bnceo: I think that's part of the point in some ways, if you provide people with hardware, maybe it'll hit them enough to want to start developing (if they're not already) |
| 03:28.00 | PatrickC | you can also email me or twitter me |
| 03:28.13 | PatrickC | bnceo: wait for Enyo :) |
| 03:28.37 | bnceo | it looks simple enough. At least just seeing the kinds and all. clean code. |
| 03:28.48 | PatrickC | its amazing |
| 03:28.54 | PatrickC | and I can talk about it now :P |
| 03:28.54 | bnceo | But just the little stuff like calling to apis or uses services is tricky for me. |
| 03:28.58 | bnceo | haha |
| 03:29.11 | bnceo | yeah, I'm waiting for some more charge on my phone before I go to bed |
| 03:29.22 | bnceo | summatusmentis: I hope that the Pre2 dev pricing comes back |
| 03:29.26 | summatusmentis | I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around enyo too, but I just need to put some time into it |
| 03:29.29 | bnceo | last time I checked, they ran out |
| 03:29.34 | PatrickC | the template apps are a really good source of info |
| 03:29.37 | summatusmentis | bnceo: the website still has a link |
| 03:29.58 | bnceo | I inquired about it a month or two ago and it was gone. they were waiting on fresh supply |
| 03:30.00 | bnceo | no idea if it's back yet |
| 03:30.09 | bnceo | will email the dev rel guy who told me so |
| 03:30.09 | PatrickC | email again? |
| 03:30.30 | Ted__ | Sorry for the delay, guys, I had to aid a relative. |
| 03:30.48 | bnceo | no biggie |
| 03:30.49 | Ted__ | The Meta doctoring is going, it's looking up. And Rod, I'm on it! |
| 03:35.52 | Ted__ | Alright, unplugging and replugging in the device didn't work, "Next" still remained greyed out. |
| 03:36.14 | Ted__ | So, I powered off the device (while plugged in) and held the volume rocker up, and powered on. It seemed to work. |
| 03:36.24 | Ted__ | And I got the big arrow! |
| 03:36.33 | Ted__ | It's working, it didn't just turn on this time! |
| 03:36.50 | Ted__ | :) |
| 03:36.51 | bnceo | nice! |
| 03:36.54 | bnceo | ok. bedtime. |
| 03:37.00 | bnceo | gnite guys. Happy TouchPad Day! |
| 03:37.07 | Ted__ | Goodnight mate! |
| 03:41.13 | PatrickC | night bnceo |
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| 03:56.16 | Ted__ | Hm...it says "We were unable to reset your phone" |
| 03:56.31 | Ted__ | Now, I don't see anything about this on the Wiki. |
| 03:57.25 | Ted__ | But, it's booting with the WebOSInternals logo |
| 03:57.53 | PatrickC | how many percent? |
| 03:58.20 | PatrickC | ^^ did it fail at? |
| 03:58.47 | Ted__ | It didn't fail. |
| 03:58.57 | Ted__ | It hit 100 and said "unable to reset phone" |
| 03:59.14 | Ted__ | I'm booting manually now, and I have the WebOS Internals logo. |
| 03:59.22 | Ted__ | So, I suppose this is the moment of truth. |
| 04:01.03 | PatrickC | it *should* be done.. |
| 04:01.09 | PatrickC | but I'm not 100% sure |
| 04:01.34 | Ted__ | It says "Phone Offline" in the top left, and I have a spinning loading wheel. |
| 04:01.55 | PatrickC | hrmm.. idk sorry |
| 04:01.56 | Ted__ | I guess when it's done loading whatever it's loading, we'll see. This is strange... |
| 04:02.12 | Ted__ | I wonder if Rod could tell if it worked or not. |
| 04:02.37 | PatrickC | idk |
| 04:02.58 | Ted__ | Is he still floating around out there? |
| 04:03.57 | PatrickC | idk |
| 04:04.19 | Ted__ | Hm, well, I don't know what it's doing |
| 04:04.23 | Ted__ | It just keeps spinning |
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| 04:16.38 | rwhitby | Ted__: you should be novaterm'd into the device and watching /var/log/messages and ls-monitor |
| 04:17.18 | Ted__ | I can't say I understand that, or know how to do it, I'm afraid. |
| 04:18.03 | rwhitby | install the Palm SDK. |
| 04:18.11 | rwhitby | run novaterm to access the command line on the device |
| 04:18.18 | rwhitby | run "tail -f /var/log/messages" |
| 04:18.35 | rwhitby | start another novaterm to get a second window into the device |
| 04:18.41 | rwhitby | run "ls-monitor" |
| 04:18.49 | rwhitby | watch the output of both windows as the device boots |
| 04:19.12 | Ted__ | Okay, I'll do that right now! Is there anything I should be looking for, specifically? |
| 04:21.09 | Ted__ | Could I do this part of the process via Windows? |
| 04:21.30 | Ted__ | Because I don't see the command on HP/Palm's site on how to install on my version of Ubuntu. |
| 04:31.24 | Ted__ | Rod, I'm going to do all of this Palm SDK stuff tomorrow, and return with my finding, for I have exams in the morning. Cheers, mate. |
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| 13:58.27 | HebrewzHammer | Anyone here help me with a problem i'm having with Save/Restore? |
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| 14:07.24 | PatrickC | HebrewzHammer: what problem? |
| 14:08.24 | cryptk | is at best buy, guess what I'm getting... |
| 14:09.18 | PatrickC | 2 touchpads?! |
| 14:09.19 | summatusmentis | an iPad? |
| 14:09.23 | PatrickC | one for me too :) |
| 14:09.51 | NuttyBunny | make it 3!! count me in .D |
| 14:09.53 | NuttyBunny | :) |
| 14:09.57 | cryptk | motorola xoom |
| 14:10.04 | NuttyBunny | slaps cryptk |
| 14:10.11 | cryptk | have to assess the competition |
| 14:10.27 | NuttyBunny | so, you already have a TP? |
| 14:10.39 | cryptk | of course its a touchpad, lol |
| 14:10.56 | NuttyBunny | I feel I *need* one |
| 14:10.58 | PatrickC | haha |
| 14:11.00 | cryptk | they are locked in the cage, manager on his way with the keys |
| 14:11.04 | PatrickC | needs one too |
| 14:11.10 | cryptk | doit |
| 14:11.14 | PatrickC | you got one??? O.o |
| 14:11.28 | PatrickC | cryptk: I don't have $499 for one.. |
| 14:11.30 | cryptk | getting it now |
| 14:11.41 | cryptk | get a job? |
| 14:11.43 | PatrickC | awesome! |
| 14:11.46 | PatrickC | I'm 15 lol |
| 14:11.54 | PatrickC | I'm waiting on the dev discount |
| 14:12.02 | PatrickC | 16 or 32GB? |
| 14:12.06 | cryptk | child labor is ok if you work for a family member |
| 14:12.10 | cryptk | 32 |
| 14:12.47 | cryptk | I love the angry birds sounds |
| 14:12.48 | summatusmentis | you can also get work permits at 15 |
| 14:12.54 | HebrewzHammer | PatrickC: Actually, I just figured it out. Thanx though |
| 14:12.58 | cryptk | sideways with button on the left |
| 14:13.01 | PatrickC | I'll work at Publix soon |
| 14:13.15 | cryptk | pull card down and let go! |
| 14:13.37 | NuttyBunny | wheeee! |
| 14:13.37 | PatrickC | cryptk: pictures!!! |
| 14:13.46 | NuttyBunny | it does that on the emu as well ;) |
| 14:18.39 | cryptk | PatrickC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqmPIegZ5ZA - Touch pad angry birds |
| 14:19.08 | PatrickC | wonders if you could masq a pre2 to be 3.0.0 ??? |
| 14:19.33 | NuttyBunny | is not allowed to talk about that |
| 14:19.47 | PatrickC | cryptk: hahahaha |
| 14:20.13 | joem_ | i went to office depot, they said i could pre-order one |
| 14:20.13 | joem_ | wtf |
| 14:21.15 | cryptk | this bb has 19 32gb and 17 16gb |
| 14:22.05 | cryptk | Patrick: you can, but it wouldn't do you any good |
| 14:22.11 | PatrickC | cryptk: why not? |
| 14:22.20 | PatrickC | it would allow me to download 3.0.0 stuff :) |
| 14:22.20 | cryptk | won't enable its or anything |
| 14:22.30 | cryptk | not really |
| 14:22.31 | PatrickC | wouldn't it? |
| 14:22.36 | cryptk | no enyo |
| 14:23.02 | PatrickC | extract Enyo from the TP doctor that was released, and install it along side? |
| 14:23.12 | cryptk | I can say I'm 8 feet tall all day, doesn't change the fact that I'm 6'1" |
| 14:23.33 | PatrickC | can't you sideload enyo from the tp doctor? |
| 14:23.41 | PatrickC | so Enyo stuff will run? |
| 14:25.06 | cryptk | no, it wont |
| 14:25.27 | PatrickC | hmm.. ok |
| 14:25.37 | PatrickC | I've run Enyo stuff easily on my pre2 |
| 14:25.44 | PatrickC | figured it would work similar |
| 14:27.14 | cryptk | haha, filled out the paperwork, guy saw my email addy and figured out who I am |
| 14:27.39 | PatrickC | hahaha |
| 14:27.39 | cryptk | time to drive, bbiaf (that was the first one this bb sold) |
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| 14:38.35 | dwc- | figured otu who you are? |
| 14:38.50 | dwc- | couldn't do that from the name part of the form? |
| 14:39.01 | PatrickC | lol |
| 14:39.26 | PatrickC | cryptk|offline: didn't they send wosi touchpads? |
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| 14:39.43 | PuffTheMagic | is now a TP owner :D |
| 14:40.10 | PatrickC | you didn't get a pre-release unit either? |
| 14:40.18 | PuffTheMagic | no, im not in the cool club |
| 14:41.26 | dwc- | oh hey, july1... that means in theory they fixed my app catalog issue |
| 14:41.34 | dwc- | picks up the pre2 |
| 14:41.45 | PatrickC | dwc-: app cat issue |
| 14:41.47 | PatrickC | ? |
| 14:41.57 | NuttyBunny | PuffTheMagic: Did you get my tweet on time? did you get mine as well? ;) |
| 14:42.07 | dwc- | yea, the "what's new" section gave you an eternal spinner and no apps |
| 14:42.31 | dwc- | yep, fixed |
| 14:42.35 | PatrickC | ah. I forgot about that |
| 14:42.40 | PatrickC | there was an update? |
| 14:42.46 | dwc- | server side issue |
| 14:42.54 | PatrickC | oh |
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| 14:43.11 | PatrickC | stupid cards lol |
| 14:44.05 | NuttyBunny | the cards don't go away by themselves ;) |
| 14:44.48 | PatrickC | haha.. ;P |
| 14:45.15 | Loudergood | lol |
| 14:45.43 | NuttyBunny | I'm just sayin ;) |
| 14:45.54 | dwc- | but... sometimes they do |
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| 14:46.13 | kill_dano | I accidently put my touchpad into USBmode... how do I get it out? |
| 14:46.26 | PatrickC | unplug it? |
| 14:46.30 | dwc- | no |
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| 14:46.35 | dwc- | eject the drive |
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| 14:46.42 | kill_dano | nono |
| 14:46.54 | kill_dano | recovery mode... excuse me |
| 14:47.01 | kill_dano | accidently put it in recovery mode |
| 14:47.34 | PatrickC | ah, I believe hold the power button? |
| 14:47.44 | kill_dano | nope |
| 14:47.55 | PatrickC | hrmm.. idk then |
| 14:48.06 | PatrickC | doctor :) |
| 14:48.09 | kill_dano | ha |
| 14:48.21 | PatrickC | wait.. novacom into it, and do the cmd tellbootie |
| 14:48.27 | PatrickC | possibly? |
| 14:48.55 | PatrickC | can u brick a tp? lol |
| 14:50.53 | PatrickC | ok.. fixed enyo.. phew |
| 14:50.58 | cryptk | back |
| 14:51.01 | PatrickC | cryptk: opened yet? :) |
| 14:51.22 | cryptk | doing it now |
| 14:51.50 | PatrickC | yay!! lol |
| 14:51.56 | PatrickC | I hope the dev discounts ome soon! |
| 14:51.59 | PatrickC | come* |
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| 15:00.02 | PuffTheMagic | NuttyBunny: no i didnt see your tweet |
| 15:03.14 | cryptk | kill_dano, hold the power button for a long time, it will turn off |
| 15:03.18 | cryptk | then turn it back on |
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| 15:03.48 | kill_dano | hey I tried that and it didn't work... I got it by pressign power and center button, triggered a restart |
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| 15:04.41 | kill_dano | or maybe I didnt press it long enough |
| 15:06.46 | cryptk | wow, thing is fast |
| 15:06.57 | cryptk | installed all of my apps from my palm profile in about 40 seconds |
| 15:06.59 | cryptk | total |
| 15:07.03 | PatrickC | what?! |
| 15:07.04 | PatrickC | sang |
| 15:07.10 | PatrickC | dang* |
| 15:07.18 | PatrickC | cryptk: how many apps? |
| 15:07.23 | cryptk | 17 |
| 15:07.35 | PatrickC | that's not too many |
| 15:07.42 | PatrickC | pared with your phone yet? |
| 15:08.00 | cryptk | yep |
| 15:08.20 | PatrickC | sms fwd'ing work? |
| 15:08.37 | cryptk | havent got a text yet |
| 15:08.41 | cryptk | lemme send myself one |
| 15:08.47 | PatrickC | lol |
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| 15:09.37 | RagingMind | the call forwarding works with 1.4.5 but will sms forwarding work? |
| 15:09.38 | cryptk | ok, just emailed my phone |
| 15:09.47 | cryptk | RagingMind, SMS won't |
| 15:09.57 | cryptk | it requires a bluetooth profile that 1.4.5 doesn't speak |
| 15:10.02 | cryptk | my phone is a sprint Pre2 |
| 15:10.27 | RagingMind | so that is still bluetooth and not some fancy magic that passes it through hp cloud servers? |
| 15:10.49 | RagingMind | does 2.1 speak it? (like a pre+ with 2.1) |
| 15:11.56 | cryptk | well, my text didn't forward |
| 15:12.45 | PatrickC | :/ |
| 15:12.55 | RagingMind | maybe that needs another software update? I'd feel bad for all the people on verizon pre2s :( |
| 15:13.09 | PatrickC | vzw got 2.1 |
| 15:13.33 | dwc- | which profile is it |
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| 15:13.50 | RagingMind | PatrickC, Yes... my statement still stands |
| 15:14.11 | fudge_ | PatrickC: You still need a mainboard? |
| 15:14.30 | PatrickC | I'll wait.. I want my touchpad first :) |
| 15:14.31 | cryptk | dwc-, MAP |
| 15:14.49 | cryptk | it isn't a finalized standard yet, but it is likely to be one very soon |
| 15:15.45 | fudge_ | ok, im looking for a trade. a working gsm pixi or pre comms board for a pre mainboard |
| 15:15.56 | dwc- | 2.1 on pre2 doesn't mention MAP in its supported profiles list either |
| 15:16.18 | cryptk | will likely need an update for that |
| 15:16.51 | dwc- | awesome. maybe we'll get lots of bugfixes at the same time |
| 15:17.05 | kill_dano | so what does the tP do with dropbox? |
| 15:17.15 | PatrickC | quickoffice |
| 15:17.18 | kill_dano | ah |
| 15:17.26 | PatrickC | get the box.net client! free 50GB! |
| 15:17.39 | kill_dano | for how long? |
| 15:17.41 | RagingMind | anyone have a veer to check bluetooth TP pairing? :) |
| 15:17.54 | PatrickC | kill_dano: idk |
| 15:18.30 | kill_dano | still no facebook chat huh? |
| 15:18.51 | PatrickC | hrm. thought there was... |
| 15:18.57 | PatrickC | lets all bug facebook! lol |
| 15:19.11 | kill_dano | quick office, app catalog and adoibe reader have updates :D |
| 15:20.09 | PatrickC | lol |
| 15:20.13 | PatrickC | already? :P |
| 15:21.02 | PatrickC | https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developer_device_program.html |
| 15:21.52 | PatrickC | DEV DEVICE PROGRAM |
| 15:22.40 | kill_dano | no GPS? coulda fooled me.... found where a was with in like 50 feet |
| 15:24.17 | RagingMind | if it loads the desktop version of facebook do you get chat in the bottom corner? |
| 15:24.19 | dwc- | got wifi? |
| 15:24.35 | RagingMind | kill_dano, wifi with google services |
| 15:24.38 | cryptk | holy crap, great discounts |
| 15:24.41 | kill_dano | yeah,... the bing app is sick |
| 15:29.48 | cryptk | I think I will close all my cards with this thing sideways |
| 15:30.51 | kill_dano | i didn;t realise ow well integrated skype was |
| 15:31.26 | kill_dano | TP is pretty much like a phone that runs on skype instead of a carrier |
| 15:33.37 | scoutcamper | kill_dano, have you checked if there is a doctor? |
| 15:34.06 | kill_dano | nope |
| 15:34.29 | scoutcamper | please check, and if there is one, grab the link so we can get it on the wiki |
| 15:34.42 | kill_dano | why do i need to check? |
| 15:34.56 | kill_dano | cause i have a TP? |
| 15:35.01 | cryptk | I'm checking now |
| 15:35.04 | kill_dano | send me the URL |
| 15:35.39 | RagingMind | SDK 3 released. yay! |
| 15:35.48 | cryptk | we have a doctor! |
| 15:36.10 | RagingMind | already? |
| 15:36.18 | RagingMind | is this some kind of record for HPalm? |
| 15:36.39 | cryptk | updating wiki |
| 15:36.48 | cryptk | it's 207MB |
| 15:36.48 | scoutcamper | w00t |
| 15:36.56 | scoutcamper | HPalm did it right this time! |
| 15:38.35 | scoutcamper | http://hpplay.com/ |
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| 15:39.30 | RagingMind | scoutcamper, it doesn't like that I have linux :( |
| 15:39.38 | scoutcamper | lol |
| 15:39.50 | Guinness | I'm about to build a frankenpre2 from an unlocked GSM Pre2 and my old Sprint Pre-, and reading through all the tutorials... It isn't clear to me if I need to uncomment any extra features in the meta-doctor makefile. i.e. should I bypass the first use app? |
| 15:39.56 | scoutcamper | works fine on FF4 Win7Pro |
| 15:41.12 | dwc- | The server at developer.palm.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 15:41.15 | dwc- | jeez guys, quit it :p |
| 15:41.18 | RagingMind | I'm on FF5 Debian Wheezy |
| 15:41.39 | PuffTheMagic | wow the cut and paste on the TP works awesome!@ |
| 15:42.29 | cryptk | wiki updated |
| 15:43.01 | cryptk | if there is anyone here with a 16GB TP, can you msg me the first 5 digits of your serial, I want to see if they match the 32GB |
| 15:43.14 | cryptk | or just tell me if they are 5CL11 |
| 15:44.08 | kill_dano | 5cl12 |
| 15:45.08 | cryptk | thanks, one digit off, how close is your model number? the 32 is HSTNH-129C |
| 15:46.07 | kill_dano | same number |
| 15:46.27 | cryptk | odd that the 32 and 16 have the same model... |
| 15:47.10 | kill_dano | I named my touchpad 'palmpad' |
| 15:47.17 | kill_dano | FU HP |
| 15:47.27 | RagingMind | kill_dano, that was the US trademark office |
| 15:47.28 | cryptk | ok, if anyone has a 32GB that does not have their first 5 in their serial 5CL11 let me know |
| 15:47.43 | cryptk | same go's for if anyone has a 16GB that the first 5 aren't 5CL12 |
| 15:47.45 | RagingMind | they wanted PalmPad... which I think would have been much better |
| 15:47.50 | kill_dano | they could have fought that it seemed like the silliest thing ever |
| 15:48.02 | cryptk | and if anyone has a model other than HSTNH-129C I am VERY interested |
| 15:48.11 | kill_dano | HP owns palm thus they own the very name that they are being reprimanded for so IDK is it makes any sense |
| 15:48.13 | RagingMind | that would have taken more time, and I guess they didn't want extra hold ups |
| 15:48.28 | cryptk | hrm... product number is new |
| 15:48.30 | RagingMind | kill_dano, they were told that PalmPad was too generic |
| 15:48.42 | RagingMind | but for some reason TouchPad isn't? *sigh* |
| 15:48.47 | kill_dano | yeah |
| 15:50.09 | RagingMind | cryptk, you updated the webos doctor versions page? |
| 15:50.50 | cryptk | RagingMind, yes |
| 15:51.01 | cryptk | ok, kill_dano does your product number start with FB355UA ? |
| 15:52.52 | kill_dano | yes |
| 15:53.45 | cryptk | sweet |
| 15:54.04 | cryptk | that should be everything I need... unless you want to verify that your doctor URL is the same as the 32GB one |
| 15:54.15 | cryptk | I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be though |
| 15:56.59 | kill_dano | I have better things to do :P |
| 15:57.17 | kill_dano | like yell at my pre 2 for not fwding sms from my TP |
| 15:57.45 | cryptk | it doesn't have the MAP profile |
| 15:57.52 | cryptk | easily fixed in an update |
| 15:58.00 | cryptk | which I would hope will happen soon |
| 15:58.18 | kill_dano | google voice will have to old me over |
| 16:01.03 | RagingMind | upswipe in emu? |
| 16:01.20 | Lumiere | starts restoring from his Pre- to get accounts |
| 16:01.26 | Lumiere | nomnomnom |
| 16:01.45 | cryptk | Lumiere, you missed it... we already have doctors! |
| 16:02.14 | Lumiere | nice |
| 16:02.21 | Lumiere | Well I had to go GET one ;) |
| 16:02.29 | Lumiere | getting one >>> Finding out there is a Dr |
| 16:02.34 | Lumiere | now have to name her |
| 16:03.00 | cryptk | nothing on http://opensource.palm.com/ yet though |
| 16:03.22 | Lumiere | hehe |
| 16:03.36 | Lumiere | cryptk: just ask the touchpad? |
| 16:03.52 | Lumiere | now all I am waiting for |
| 16:03.54 | cryptk | Lumiere, I was hoping for kernel sources and patches |
| 16:04.05 | Lumiere | is the ~50 off stuff |
| 16:04.43 | Lumiere | F YES |
| 16:05.50 | RagingMind | cryptk, uname -a? |
| 16:06.56 | Lumiere | yea... SSL VPN out of the box is pretty hot |
| 16:12.11 | cryptk | RagingMind, Linux CryptksTouchPad 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin #1 SMP PREEMPT 129.1.17 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 16:12.53 | RagingMind | tenderloin? LOL |
| 16:13.11 | Lumiere | this is palm we're talking about... |
| 16:13.17 | Lumiere | they do have a sense of humor |
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| 16:20.38 | coveredwagonkid | has anyone pulled down the TP doctor yet? |
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| 16:22.15 | dtzWill | coveredwagonkid: yep, and alread flashed my device |
| 16:22.20 | halfhalo | same |
| 16:22.24 | dtzWill | and signed into my official palm profile. rebooting.... |
| 16:22.56 | coveredwagonkid | ok, I'm picking mine up now and I saw rod asking about it this morning |
| 16:23.16 | RagingMind | I have to drive 2 hours to get one :( |
| 16:23.59 | dtzWill | i'm driving 6 hours today, sad that those are 6 hours i won't be playing with a touchpad |
| 16:24.03 | dtzWill | BRB it booted |
| 16:24.04 | dtzWill | :3 |
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| 16:24.48 | PatrickC | I'll be buying one thru dev discount.. I'll have to wait :'( |
| 16:25.56 | coveredwagonkid | unfortunately, the only accessories I can get today is a zagg invisible shield |
| 16:26.07 | coveredwagonkid | no touchstone yet :( |
| 16:26.22 | halfhalo | my touchstone is being delivered today |
| 16:26.35 | scoutcamper | is going into town in a little while to pick up his 32gb TP and to look arround for Touchstones and cases |
| 16:26.49 | Lumiere | well |
| 16:26.50 | coveredwagonkid | I preordered in store |
| 16:26.58 | Lumiere | don't hold your breath on the cases |
| 16:27.28 | scoutcamper | Lumiere, i may buy an ipad case, it should fit i would think |
| 16:27.44 | Lumiere | my Best Buy had a ton of Touchpad but no accessories |
| 16:27.45 | coveredwagonkid | i'd really like to try out the BT keyboard |
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| 16:28.40 | coveredwagonkid | lumiere: same here |
| 16:29.11 | scoutcamper | my bb has a tp with my name on it |
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| 16:29.37 | oilsworkn | imagines touchpad with "scoutcamper" written with a sharpie on the glass |
| 16:29.39 | scoutcamper | and hopefully a touchstone as well |
| 16:29.46 | scoutcamper | lol |
| 16:30.01 | dtzWill | hmm supernes and vba are marked not tp compatible (b/c they're not, yet!) but it's dl'ing supernes anyway (but not vba) |
| 16:30.03 | scoutcamper | i would be upset |
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| 16:37.08 | RagingMind | oilsworkn, is there a wirc build for the 3.0 emu? |
| 16:37.30 | oilsworkn | the version in the testing feed works with uirevision2 |
| 16:37.34 | coveredwagonkid | gg I need freetether for activation... |
| 16:37.35 | oilsworkn | (touchpad res) |
| 16:37.57 | oilsworkn | once its tested more itl hit the main feed and be pushed to catalog |
| 16:42.18 | Lumiere | loving new magazine for apps |
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| 16:57.25 | singmajesty | Is there an easy way to open a *.deb file to see what's inside? |
| 16:57.41 | RagingMind | file-roller |
| 16:57.56 | RagingMind | or extracting it on the command line |
| 16:58.25 | singmajesty | Cool. I want to see what made it into the first 3.0 Linux SDK release |
| 16:58.31 | singmajesty | (Hoping it contains the PDK) |
| 16:58.35 | RagingMind | nope... |
| 16:58.44 | singmajesty | Frustrating. |
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| 16:59.02 | singmajesty | Do you need a beta Linux PDK build? |
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| 16:59.53 | RM-FakeTP | well this is a little bit better |
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| 17:02.47 | dwc- | singmajesty: dpkg -c |
| 17:02.59 | dwc- | or dpkg -x into a destdir |
| 17:03.53 | Loudergood | I was looking at that deb actually, it's nice and fat, so I was hoping it has the PDK myself |
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| 17:07.40 | singmajesty | I just asked internally |
| 17:07.50 | singmajesty | I'm told it includes PDK headers, libraries and an arm-gcc toolchain |
| 17:07.55 | singmajesty | *win* if it does |
| 17:08.08 | singmajesty | It still has the library warnings, but I think we'll have those gone soon |
| 17:08.11 | Loudergood | at long last :) |
| 17:08.20 | Loudergood | now people are going to whine about distro support ;) |
| 17:08.30 | singmajesty | I know -- I've heard people say, "well, the Linux people know how to figure it out..." |
| 17:08.31 | phoque | http://www.facebook.com/groups/webOSFriends?view=permalink&id=201407406577464 |
| 17:08.35 | singmajesty | ...but in my mind, why should they? |
| 17:08.54 | singmajesty | Linux seems like it should be a bigger platform for PDK development, anyway |
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| 17:09.14 | singmajesty | I feel a lot more comfortable with C/C++ when I am using Linux |
| 17:10.57 | RagingMind | woah... okay I was very wrong |
| 17:11.14 | RagingMind | someone in irc yesterday was saying that there may be a PDK in the works |
| 17:11.27 | summatusmentis | probably singmajesty |
| 17:12.10 | RagingMind | but looking at the files this thing installed... there's an /opt/PalmPDK FULL of nifty things :) |
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| 17:15.24 | RagingMind | um... there is a bit of a problem though. the scripts included still look for JAVA16="/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.6/" like in the MacOS PDK |
| 17:16.19 | singmajesty | Okay, good! |
| 17:16.28 | singmajesty | Which script? |
| 17:16.42 | RagingMind | nova-browser |
| 17:17.05 | RagingMind | it's one that I remembered looking at when I was playing with the mac PDK a while ago |
| 17:17.11 | singmajesty | There was a Linux PDK project, but it was old and was never completed |
| 17:17.16 | singmajesty | That's why there was no Linux PDK |
| 17:17.42 | singmajesty | That was scrapped, and the new Linux PDK is a derivative of the Mac PDK, compiled for Linux |
| 17:17.54 | singmajesty | So please let me know any places where it should be changed |
| 17:18.33 | RagingMind | the actual binaries I"ve seen thus far are all linux, so yay for that |
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| 17:21.24 | singmajesty | Send any issues you find to joshua.granick@palm.com |
| 17:21.30 | RagingMind | Um... k |
| 17:21.45 | singmajesty | I'll send them back to engineering to so we can be sure to get it resolved for the next release |
| 17:21.57 | RagingMind | the jars dir is missing... |
| 17:22.22 | singmajesty | Like for palm-install and palm-emulator? |
| 17:22.33 | RagingMind | the nova broswer far from the mac pdk worked when I tried it, but here it's just not included. jsut the script to launch it |
| 17:22.53 | RagingMind | /opt/PalmPDK/share/jars |
| 17:24.19 | dwc- | singmajesty: nice! |
| 17:24.29 | RagingMind | I haven't ever actually used the PDK before (only having linux boxes) |
| 17:24.30 | singmajesty | So palm-install, palm-package, palm-launch are functional, but nova-browser is not? |
| 17:24.36 | RagingMind | singmajesty, yes |
| 17:24.48 | singmajesty | Okay |
| 17:25.01 | RagingMind | there is a /opt/PalmSDK/0.1/share/jars dir but there is not a /opt/PalmPDK/share/jars |
| 17:25.22 | singmajesty | What files are there in the Mac PDK? |
| 17:26.02 | RagingMind | oh boy... I just deleted the files I had lying around from that experiment so that I had room for the new sdk3 install |
| 17:28.45 | cryptk | woot, IRC from the touchpad! |
| 17:29.04 | oilsworkn | :) |
| 17:29.29 | halfhalo | yup! |
| 17:30.01 | oilsworkn | i find portrait + thumb typing was working the best for me |
| 17:31.43 | cryptk | time to sleep, nn all |
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| 18:11.44 | Loudergood | guess it's time to doctor the phone again.. |
| 18:14.18 | Loudergood | probably whip up a fresh meta doc |
| 18:14.46 | oilsworkn | metadoc gets wi bootup logo :) |
| 18:20.10 | Loudergood | I know...I'm seeing that logo for far too long right now :( |
| 18:22.11 | Loudergood | not that I don't like it |
| 18:22.26 | oilsworkn | made it |
| 18:22.33 | halfhalo | orly |
| 18:22.37 | oilsworkn | lol |
| 18:27.16 | Lumiere | drools at skype |
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| 18:34.16 | Ted__ | Hello |
| 18:35.03 | Loudergood | good morning |
| 18:35.17 | Ted__ | Good morning to you too! |
| 18:36.05 | Ted__ | I'm having a little bit of a problem installing the Palm SDK on Ubuntu 10.10 |
| 18:36.39 | Loudergood | ok |
| 18:37.05 | Loudergood | I just barely installed it on debian so what's up? |
| 18:38.00 | Ted__ | Whenever I run the command on the HP/Palm website, it says: |
| 18:38.04 | Ted__ | No command 'deb' found, did you mean: Command 'debc' from package 'devscripts' (main) Command 'derb' from package 'libicu-dev' (main) Command 'dab' from package 'bsdgames' (universe) Command 'debi' from package 'devscripts' (main) Command 'xdeb' from package 'xdeb' (universe) deb: command not found |
| 18:38.17 | Ted__ | Sorry for the wall of text. |
| 18:39.20 | azakus | dpkg? |
| 18:39.40 | Ted__ | Pardon? |
| 18:39.45 | azakus | Ted__: that' |
| 18:39.48 | azakus | that's not a command |
| 18:40.11 | azakus | that's a line for /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:40.22 | Ted__ | Ah, alright, alright. I'm very new to ubuntu, and I'm just following what's on the website. Apologies. |
| 18:40.37 | azakus | yeah it should say that better |
| 18:41.19 | azakus | step 2 is a command though |
| 18:41.51 | Ted__ | Ah, alright, thank you. |
| 18:41.55 | azakus | np |
| 18:43.43 | Ted__ | I'm doing this because I'm trying to doctor a Sprint Pre with an AT&T coms board, but the doctor kicked me at 100% and said "Could not restart your device."It boots, but upon booting just gives me a loading wheel. Rod told me to install the Palm SDK, and use novaterm to reach the command line of the device |
| 18:44.02 | Ted__ | Would I need virtual box, as well? |
| 18:44.14 | Loudergood | no |
| 18:44.26 | Loudergood | not for what you want to do anyway |
| 18:44.34 | Ted__ | Alright, thanks again! |
| 18:47.32 | Ted__ | Novaterm is a program, yes? |
| 18:48.21 | Ted__ | --Found it on the wiki (such a great site) |
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| 18:59.20 | Ted__ | Hello, sorry for going off -power outage. |
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| 19:07.27 | Ted__ | So I ran the command Rod told me to from the root of my pre (tail -f/var/log/messages) and I can't make anything of it. |
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| 19:23.51 | Loudergood | uh oh...palm.com/rom time to go back over and triple check my steps |
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| 19:30.35 | Lumiere | Anyone have a thought about how to accept a security certificate for a wifi connection? |
| 19:31.06 | PatrickC | like portals? |
| 19:31.53 | Lumiere | like my wireless uses has a certificate WPA enterprise |
| 19:32.29 | PatrickC | I have no clue |
| 19:32.30 | PatrickC | sorry |
| 19:33.12 | Lumiere | I'll stab cryptk in the face when he gets on ;) |
| 19:33.44 | PatrickC | haha |
| 19:35.40 | Loudergood | Lumiere: under the hood it uses wpa-supplicant |
| 19:36.41 | Lumiere | Loudergood: the issue is basically that the cert is not fully signed and therefore wpa-supplicant is throwing a huh? and WebOS doesn't know what to do with it |
| 19:37.29 | Loudergood | ah a self signed cert? |
| 19:38.39 | Lumiere | yea |
| 19:39.35 | Loudergood | the proper way to do that involves adding the cert to the client I think...not sure how to do that on webos.. |
| 19:39.46 | Lumiere | yep! hence why I was asking here :) |
| 19:44.41 | Loudergood | I'd check on my phone right now but it's out of service for the moment |
| 19:44.49 | Loudergood | I think I've seen a dialog for it though |
| 19:45.00 | PatrickC | why is it out of service? |
| 19:46.53 | Loudergood | stuck on the wosi logo booting |
| 19:47.05 | Loudergood | now I'm working on doctoring it |
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| 20:03.34 | Loudergood | whee success |
| 20:04.29 | Loudergood | at least I think so.. |
| 20:04.32 | Loudergood | ah there's luna |
| 20:07.09 | Loudergood | bah..forgot to enable wifi |
| 20:07.13 | Loudergood | oh well |
| 20:08.36 | PatrickC | lol |
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| 20:19.09 | oc80z | heh |
| 20:22.11 | Loudergood | got the wifi up in time |
| 20:22.35 | Loudergood | watching the phone automatically reinstall all that stuff is a thing of beauty |
| 20:25.43 | Loudergood | almost makes me want to kiss whoever came up with the idea |
| 20:25.48 | Loudergood | almost |
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| 20:42.58 | keith | anyone have 'available packages' greyed out in preware on touchpad? |
| 20:43.58 | PatrickC | the enyo version doesnt work if that's what you're asking? |
| 20:44.06 | keith | oh |
| 20:44.18 | keith | i didnt realize that |
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| 20:45.12 | keith | webosinternals WebOS Internals |
| 20:45.12 | keith | To be very clear: Preware works perfectly on the TouchPad, and installs in exactly the same ways it always has. Nothing different. |
| 20:45.17 | keith | whats that mean then? |
| 20:45.34 | PatrickC | that Mojo preware works perfectly on the touchpad iirc |
| 20:45.58 | oilsworkn | yeah, its fixed for tp res |
| 20:46.02 | oilsworkn | back buttons/etc |
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| 20:46.26 | PatrickC | but enyo doesn't work yet? correct oilsworkn |
| 20:46.43 | oilsworkn | right, its not rewritten yet |
| 20:47.03 | keith | well i just installed preware from webos quick install (1.7.) |
| 20:47.15 | keith | and 'available packages' is greyed out |
| 20:47.17 | keith | is that why oil? |
| 20:47.35 | keith | im just surprised you guys would make this as a public release without it actually being able to install software |
| 20:47.47 | oilsworkn | because one person having trouble means it doesn't work? |
| 20:48.02 | keith | oh, patrickc made it sound like this is how its supposed to work |
| 20:48.04 | keith | this isnt? |
| 20:48.11 | oilsworkn | its supposed to work the same as it did on phones |
| 20:48.27 | keith | ok thats what i assumed, thanks oil |
| 20:48.28 | oilsworkn | do you have a network connection? was it able to download the feed data? |
| 20:48.30 | keith | i will try to figure it out |
| 20:49.05 | keith | ooh duh hahah i lost network connectivity |
| 20:49.30 | PatrickC | lol |
| 20:50.02 | dtzWill | azakus: hey fellow uiuc-er! :) |
| 20:50.03 | dtzWill | o/ |
| 20:50.11 | keith | does wirc work yet? |
| 20:50.29 | Loudergood | yeah |
| 20:50.35 | dtzWill | keith: wirc in preware works great :) |
| 20:50.43 | azakus | indeed |
| 20:50.51 | keith | awesome! |
| 20:51.09 | dtzWill | azakus: you still in the chambana area? |
| 20:51.13 | azakus | no, I'm in SF |
| 20:51.15 | Loudergood | jesus, I didn't think I left that much email on the server....it appears to be syncing thousands of messages |
| 20:51.17 | dtzWill | i couldn't find any local retailers selling tp accesories :( |
| 20:51.24 | azakus | is a palm employee, ssshhh |
| 20:51.37 | dtzWill | azakus: oh? congrats :) |
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| 20:53.30 | keith | dtzWill: they dont go on sale yet. |
| 20:53.38 | keith | azakus: does the palm store have them |
| 20:53.41 | keith | er i mean 'hp webos sotre' |
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| 20:53.53 | azakus | as far as I know |
| 20:54.12 | keith | interesting since nobody else does |
| 20:54.26 | keith | so you dont really know them, youre just assuming? :) |
| 20:54.30 | dtzWill | keith: ah, interesting. however, none of the retailers around me had anything touchpad or touchpad related at all, or knew that they existed |
| 20:54.47 | dtzWill | the guy said the stores around here didn't get ipad stuff either when it launched |
| 20:54.48 | dtzWill | so |
| 20:54.54 | dtzWill | guess that's what i get for being in the middle of nowhere |
| 20:55.04 | dtzWill | sokay amazon'll have them here soon enough :) |
| 20:55.51 | azakus | wow, official online store doesn't have anything |
| 20:55.53 | keith | dtzWill: nobody got ipad stuff when they launched, it was a silent launch |
| 20:55.53 | dtzWill | should be here on/around the 6th, so that works. but am traveling for the weekend to see family, would've been nice to have the accessories to go with the tp goodness ^.^ |
| 20:55.55 | azakus | super lame |
| 20:56.01 | dtzWill | keith: ah, shows what i know. :) |
| 20:56.06 | keith | azakus: yea, thats why i wanted to know if the official in person store has it :) |
| 20:56.11 | keith | dtzWill: i had a ipad on launch day too |
| 20:56.14 | azakus | ah I'm not near there |
| 20:56.18 | keith | touchpad has far more apps than ipad did on launch day. |
| 20:56.28 | keith | azakus: ahh, youre in the soma office? i'm down off 20th and harrison in mission |
| 20:56.38 | keith | ipad on launch day was a complete joke. |
| 20:58.19 | azakus | hilariously, the best buy online store has all the accessories, and the hp one doesn't |
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| 20:58.30 | keith | azakus: but none of them ship for a week or two |
| 20:58.58 | keith | they all say 'Backordered' on BB.com |
| 20:59.14 | dtzWill | keith: you're a recent palm recruit too, right? :) |
| 20:59.14 | keith | i was told hp webos store wont have them, either |
| 20:59.19 | dtzWill | within the last year or so? |
| 20:59.22 | keith | dtzWill: nope, but i wouldnt mind being one :) |
| 20:59.37 | dtzWill | oh i must misremembered. pretty sure i recognize your nick. oh well, sorry ^.^ |
| 20:59.50 | keith | i'm a recent sf transplant. and i've attended a few palm events, and i have friends who are employees :) |
| 21:00.45 | dtzWill | is skype working any better? don't have a good person to call video-wise and don't feel like making another account :) |
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| 21:00.49 | keith | no. |
| 21:00.49 | dtzWill | also the hell is with the lack of camera app, honestly >.< |
| 21:01.04 | keith | skype did not work in the 3 tests i tried. |
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| 21:01.16 | dtzWill | it worked for me once on the dev device |
| 21:01.20 | dtzWill | haven't tried on the updated firmware |
| 21:01.29 | dtzWill | was hoping this would fix all those issues automagically |
| 21:01.31 | dtzWill | cna dream |
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| 21:03.14 | dtzWill | they could've at leat shipped the tp with a sleeve like the pre :) |
| 21:03.44 | keith | anyone have skype? |
| 21:03.46 | keith | wannna test? |
| 21:03.54 | keith | windows, latest version |
| 21:04.11 | keith | dtzWill: agreed. |
| 21:04.11 | keith | dtzWill: but then less people would pay $50 for the $2 of plastic case :) |
| 21:04.11 | Ted__ | Hello, everyone. |
| 21:04.13 | keith | Hello, Ted__ |
| 21:04.18 | Ted__ | Let me say: I am jealous of the touchpad-ness I hear. |
| 21:04.28 | keith | anyone have skype? |
| 21:04.32 | keith | lets do some call testing! |
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| 21:04.38 | Ted__ | I would kill for one, but I lack funds :c |
| 21:04.49 | dtzWill | keith: pm me your nick? :) |
| 21:04.58 | keith | sent |
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| 21:05.13 | madmike | agreed. I want but need better discount or more funds :( |
| 21:05.23 | madmike | or both... |
| 21:05.39 | Ted__ | So, do you guys mind giving me a hand with a progect I've been working on? |
| 21:06.24 | Loudergood | is it homebrew or app cat? |
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| 21:07.44 | Ted__ | It's doctoring a Sprint Pre to run an AT&T :p |
| 21:08.24 | RagingMind | Ted__, so you've switched or are gonna switch comm boards? |
| 21:09.47 | Ted__ | The comms board has been switched, that was the easy part. It's getting this thing to doctor and run that's killing me. |
| 21:10.11 | Ted__ | Rod has been giving me a hand, I know he's a busy guy, and I've been working day and night with little acomplishment. |
| 21:11.15 | Ted__ | I've used: ./scripts/meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 to doctor it, at first the phone would boot and kick me out of the doctor, and when it did doctor it got to 100% and said "Failed to restart your device" |
| 21:11.52 | Ted__ | It booted, with the WebOS Internals Logo, followed by the HP logo, but I'm stuck on a sky screen, with a never ending load wheel. |
| 21:12.19 | dtzWill | Ted__: fwiw i had random errors like that when i had a bad usb cable. was rather concerned until i switched (i tried different ports to no avail), and it works well again. |
| 21:12.22 | dtzWill | just something to check :) |
| 21:12.36 | dtzWill | oh if it booted to the load wheel nvm |
| 21:12.56 | Ted__ | Rod told me to use Novaterm and run: "tail -f/var/log/messages" and "ls-monitor" but I don't know what I'm meant to be looking for in these lines of text. |
| 21:13.42 | dtzWill | the hell skype integration is turrible. bummer. |
| 21:14.52 | Lumiere | trying to update preware over tether sucks |
| 21:17.11 | arctic-ice | exit |
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| 21:25.16 | bpadalino | has anyone booted their tp into bootie and checked out the commands? seen if there was anything good or new added ? |
| 21:32.34 | bpadalino | did the rootfs of webos1.x and 2.x have /opt there originally .. i thought we had to create that directory ? |
| 21:34.22 | bpadalino | looks like 10 is the max fingers for the device according to hidd config |
| 21:35.12 | dtzWill | man half the apps in the pivot magazine don't work/exist |
| 21:35.13 | dtzWill | lol |
| 21:35.18 | bpadalino | :( |
| 21:35.26 | dtzWill | the kindle app, the fb app was flakey |
| 21:35.31 | dtzWill | misc other ones jsut say 'n/a' |
| 21:35.36 | dtzWill | kindle gets it's own full page |
| 21:35.45 | dtzWill | the hell happened, in the reviews i read that seemed to work well enough? :( |
| 21:36.05 | dtzWill | although lulz at "topaz on the topaz" :) |
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| 21:38.10 | chris4242 | Hi there |
| 21:42.33 | dtzWill | angry birds HD for free is nice |
| 21:42.45 | dtzWill | is it free for everyone or just those that already owned it? |
| 21:42.46 | dtzWill | oh wait... |
| 21:42.47 | dtzWill | ;) |
| 21:49.39 | NuttyBunny | check the appid |
| 21:49.42 | NuttyBunny | tell us |
| 21:49.43 | NuttyBunny | :P |
| 21:50.01 | bpadalino | there is libvorbis in webos3 it seems .. |
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| 21:53.18 | Lumiere | nice |
| 21:53.27 | Lumiere | hmm how to get networking on my touchpad |
| 21:53.35 | Lumiere | without using shitty phone tether |
| 21:53.42 | dtzWill | is there any tools that let you search for where tp accessories might be available? |
| 21:53.56 | dtzWill | leaving to drive for 5-6 hours shortly and would like to check for stores along the way without completely hating my life |
| 21:53.56 | chris4242 | google? |
| 21:53.59 | chris4242 | :-D |
| 21:54.26 | dtzWill | that reminds me |
| 21:54.29 | Lumiere | dtzWill: my local Best Buy that I got my TP at had tons of TPs and no accessories at all |
| 21:54.46 | Lumiere | anyone know if bluetooth networking is doable on TP? |
| 21:57.21 | dtzWill | Lumiere: for what value of 'doable'? we are in the -internals channel after all :) |
| 21:57.24 | dtzWill | and i don't, either way. |
| 21:57.41 | SineOt | I think it should support PAN out of the box |
| 21:57.42 | Lumiere | dtzWill: something I can do with no terminal access and no net |
| 21:57.47 | SineOt | but how that works I have no idea |
| 21:58.00 | dtzWill | "that reminds me" -> http://twitter.com/#!/wdtz/status/86916249031938048 |
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| 21:58.14 | dtzWill | $5 (paypal) to whoever makes a patch for the TP keybd emoticons... I hate that they have "noses", they look stupid. :-( #bounty #serious |
| 21:58.34 | Lumiere | basic issue is I can't login to wifi until I can get Terminal installed |
| 21:58.46 | Lumiere | so that I can f with wpa-supplicant to install a broken certificate |
| 21:59.44 | dtzWill | Lumiere: novaterm? |
| 22:00.01 | dtzWill | can you do emergency mode call and '##devmode#' or similar? |
| 22:00.08 | dtzWill | doesn't remember all the tricks |
| 22:02.38 | dwc- | you could try a modfied webos doctor |
| 22:03.04 | dwc- | pull the rootfs and add ssl certs in /etc/ssl/certs |
| 22:03.12 | SineOt | it's a wifi only device, I doubt it even has a dialer or the option to make an emergency mode call |
| 22:03.19 | dwc- | repack, and re-doctor |
| 22:03.36 | dtzWill | SineOt: you and your good points. |
| 22:03.46 | dtzWill | dwc-: yeah that'd work for well, was going for simple. |
| 22:03.56 | dtzWill | not sure if meta has been officially updated for the new doctor or not. |
| 22:04.04 | SineOt | Simple would be sending me a TouchPad ;P |
| 22:04.07 | dwc- | well, you'd have to do it yourself, probably |
| 22:04.19 | dwc- | I don't imagine adding ssl certs was a part of the makefile |
| 22:04.37 | dtzWill | dwc-: yeah but it has nice targets like 'unpack' and the like |
| 22:04.37 | dtzWill | shrug |
| 22:04.47 | dwc- | ahh |
| 22:04.57 | dwc- | it looks like there's a dialer app in the touchpad doctor |
| 22:05.09 | dwc- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.10 | dwc- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.22 | SineOt | hmm, probably for Skype then :o |
| 22:05.29 | SineOt | hadn't really thought of that |
| 22:05.45 | SineOt | holds a Touchpad up to his face, uses it to make phone calls |
| 22:07.05 | Lumiere | I might be able to novaterm it somewhat |
| 22:12.49 | dtzWill | dwc-: that's for skype as well as for the phone integration |
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| 22:13.44 | Lumiere | hmm |
| 22:13.51 | Lumiere | I got a wifi up |
| 22:14.06 | scoutcamper | hugs TP |
| 22:14.17 | dwc- | dtzWill: that's what I assumed |
| 22:14.23 | scoutcamper | ~TP is touchpad |
| 22:14.23 | infobot | ...but tp is already something else... |
| 22:14.30 | scoutcamper | ~tp |
| 22:14.30 | infobot | i heard tp is I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE! |
| 22:14.40 | scoutcamper | ~no TP is touchpad |
| 22:14.40 | infobot | okay, scoutcamper |
| 22:14.46 | PatrickC | haha |
| 22:14.51 | PatrickC | ~tp |
| 22:14.51 | infobot | it has been said that tp is touchpad |
| 22:15.21 | dtzWill | oooooooooo quell is sweet |
| 22:15.26 | scoutcamper | likes his touchpad |
| 22:15.32 | scoutcamper | nice and large screen :D |
| 22:15.54 | PatrickC | scoutcamper: lucky :P |
| 22:16.27 | scoutcamper | is a winner |
| 22:17.10 | scoutcamper | but no touchstone at local stores |
| 22:17.27 | PatrickC | :/ |
| 22:17.45 | PatrickC | id buy the touchstone, but its like $70... |
| 22:19.38 | dtzWill | PatrickC: i'd buy one if one was availbale |
| 22:19.38 | dtzWill | :( |
| 22:19.53 | PatrickC | dtzWill: dev discount? |
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| 22:22.39 | scoutcamper | ive got friends at local best buy, sopposed to get a call/ have one set aside for me when they arive :D |
| 22:23.36 | PatrickC | steals it |
| 22:23.49 | PatrickC | (j/k) |
| 22:24.13 | dtzWill | scoutcamper: nice :) |
| 22:24.29 | dtzWill | PatrickC: nah we covered this, it'll have 'scoutcampter' written on its screen in sharpie ^.^ |
| 22:24.37 | Lumiere | my tp won't update preware... |
| 22:24.52 | scoutcamper | no, thats my TP, and it didnt :D |
| 22:25.40 | PatrickC | dtzWill: I must have missed that convo haha |
| 22:25.53 | Lumiere | ... |
| 22:26.11 | Lumiere | anyways I go to update the feeds and it just fails silently |
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| 22:33.59 | dtzWill | any pro tips for traveling with the tp until the official case is avail? don't wanna have to purchase a temporary one if i can avoid it... |
| 22:34.42 | PatrickC | iPad case? if needed? |
| 22:34.54 | azakus | it'll fit really well in an ipad 1 case |
| 22:34.56 | PatrickC | I'll be waiting to get mine... (tp that is) |
| 22:34.56 | scoutcamper | dtzWill, got a netbook neoprene case? |
| 22:35.00 | dtzWill | yeah, just didn't wanna buy one for the next few weks. |
| 22:35.07 | dtzWill | scoutcamper: goood call i actually think i have one for my eee |
| 22:35.08 | dtzWill | ^____^ |
| 22:35.21 | scoutcamper | thats what im using :D |
| 22:36.49 | dwc- | dtzWill: there's always http://www.flickr.com/photos/luns/127811078/ |
| 22:38.07 | PatrickC | haha |
| 22:38.54 | dtzWill | dwc-: lol |
| 22:39.08 | dtzWill | fits great |
| 22:39.33 | dtzWill | it's a tad loose, but still i can carry it without being so concerned |
| 22:39.38 | dtzWill | wonderful, tyvm ^.^ |
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| 22:48.03 | Lumiere | no Terminal app for tp... |
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| 23:49.52 | dtzWill | yay keyboard shipped, should be here on the 5th :D |
| 23:50.49 | PuffTheMagic | nice |
| 23:51.13 | PuffTheMagic | i am really not excited about a KB |
| 23:51.18 | Loudergood | likes this hipper, more modern version of the meta doctor script that automagically installs flash |
| 23:51.19 | PuffTheMagic | seems to defeat the purpose |
| 23:52.00 | Loudergood | PuffTheMagic: you have to think of it as a companion to the touchstone, |
| 23:52.00 | PatrickC | PuffTheMagic: I would like the kb |
| 23:52.07 | PatrickC | seems like a good addition |
| 23:52.13 | SineOt | when typing a lot it would be nice |
| 23:52.22 | PatrickC | yeah |
| 23:52.25 | SineOt | not really a OMG MUST HAVE but it'd probably have its uses |
| 23:52.29 | PuffTheMagic | i wont be using my TP like a desktop |
| 23:52.30 | PatrickC | like developing on device ;) |
| 23:52.33 | SineOt | especially with the angle the Touchstone puts the TP at |
| 23:52.46 | Loudergood | it's a device I would buy for $20 though, not at its current price |
| 23:52.51 | PuffTheMagic | there will be a deal desktop or laptop where every i could have the touchstone thing |
| 23:52.53 | PatrickC | I'll be using mine more then I use my laptop :) |
| 23:52.56 | PuffTheMagic | real |
| 23:53.24 | PatrickC | the tp has more everything then my laptop haha.. :P |