| 00:00.19 | AtomicAwayboy | Anyone know how to get novaterm to connect to the TouchPad? |
| 00:00.25 | AtomicAwayboy | Has anyone got that far? |
| 00:01.53 | cryptk | AtomicPlayboy, plug in the TP, put TP in dev mode, novaterm |
| 00:02.03 | AtomicPlayboy | Not working |
| 00:02.06 | cryptk | make sure you have the most up-to-date novaterm installed |
| 00:02.26 | AtomicPlayboy | Where would I find that? Is the one on the wiki out-of-date? |
| 00:02.38 | cryptk | from HP |
| 00:02.46 | AtomicPlayboy | Yeah, it's throwing exceptions |
| 00:03.00 | scoutcamper | AtomicPlayboy, install the 3.0 SDK |
| 00:03.05 | AtomicPlayboy | It's installed |
| 00:03.07 | AtomicPlayboy | x64 |
| 00:03.13 | cryptk | windows or linux? |
| 00:03.17 | AtomicPlayboy | Windows, sorry |
| 00:03.28 | AtomicPlayboy | The novaterm java program runs, but doesn't connect me to anything |
| 00:03.43 | scoutcamper | AtomicPlayboy, try doing, from CMD, novacom -t open tty:// |
| 00:03.45 | AtomicPlayboy | I just have a blank terminal with "Tryin g...." |
| 00:03.56 | cryptk | there is a novaterm java program? |
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| 00:04.07 | AtomicPlayboy | Yeah, the one that comes with the SDK |
| 00:04.07 | cryptk | I am a linux guy, I'm not gonna be of much help to you |
| 00:05.04 | AtomicPlayboy | "login using a password required" |
| 00:05.22 | scoutcamper | ?? |
| 00:05.25 | AtomicPlayboy | Ah, got it |
| 00:05.44 | AtomicPlayboy | If you set a devmode password you need -c login and -r {password} |
| 00:06.09 | AtomicPlayboy | novaterm -c login -r blahblahblah pt open tty:// |
| 00:06.14 | AtomicPlayboy | ERr -t |
| 00:06.16 | cryptk | I thought you were getting exceptions |
| 00:06.24 | AtomicPlayboy | I was using the wrong novaterm |
| 00:06.26 | cryptk | ahh |
| 00:06.33 | dwc- | mmm, java exceptions |
| 00:06.52 | AtomicPlayboy | Well |
| 00:06.52 | AtomicPlayboy | Crap |
| 00:07.08 | dwc- | uninstall the old one |
| 00:07.19 | AtomicPlayboy | Yeah, I"m gonna uninstall everything and start from scratch |
| 00:07.24 | AtomicPlayboy | Something's stepping on something here |
| 00:07.43 | dwc- | format and reinstall |
| 00:08.07 | AtomicPlayboy | rm -rf / |
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| 00:14.45 | dwc- | sure, if you have cygwin or MKS |
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| 00:18.52 | AtomicPlayboy | Umm |
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| 00:23.43 | AtomicPlayboy | Alright, I'm missing something |
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| 03:01.20 | infidel | do i have to re-install the rom to wire the files i have installed? |
| 03:05.10 | dwc- | reinstall the what to what the files? |
| 03:06.36 | infidel | oops i mean wipe |
| 03:07.00 | dwc- | what files did you install? |
| 03:07.13 | infidel | like the remaining config files from an app or overwritten img files |
| 03:07.42 | infidel | themes, openssh, plugins |
| 03:07.47 | infidel | stuff like that |
| 03:07.53 | dwc- | you could remove them yourself, but doctoring should wipe it mostly clean |
| 03:08.15 | infidel | k thanks |
| 03:08.15 | dwc- | e.g. I think openssh is set up to survive a doctoring |
| 03:08.23 | infidel | ouch |
| 03:08.39 | infidel | well i guess it's worth a shot |
| 03:16.58 | infidel | have you ever done the dr? |
| 03:17.13 | dwc- | nope |
| 03:17.29 | dwc- | obviously, I'm not hacking my phone enough |
| 03:17.45 | infidel | exactly |
| 03:18.07 | infidel | i love this phone |
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| 03:39.27 | Lee__ | k |
| 04:33.30 | PatrickC | what happens if dr. battery is running, calibrating, and you unplug the charger? |
| 04:37.24 | dwc- | your pre self destructs |
| 04:37.57 | PatrickC | lol |
| 04:38.04 | PatrickC | does calibration just stop? |
| 04:38.39 | dwc- | my guess is it'd be miscalibrated |
| 04:39.41 | PatrickC | ok thx |
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| 05:08.47 | dtzWill | so, has anyone looked into modifying the on screen keyboard? |
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| 06:34.47 | cryptk | I found some old drum triggers... I think when I get a new electric kit I will use them to make some interesting pads... |
| 06:34.56 | cryptk | maybe use a sawblade as a splash... |
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| 08:04.51 | dtz | ChanServ, ty :) |
| 08:05.11 | dtz | is talking on xchat running in a debian chroot on an xserver running on his touchpad |
| 08:05.24 | dtz | atm using synergy (not chrooted) to contorl it |
| 08:05.28 | dtz | hehe |
| 08:07.41 | Jack87 | dtz, nice! |
| 08:07.54 | Jack87 | dtz, is first man to use mouse on touch pad |
| 08:08.02 | Jack87 | :)\ |
| 08:09.21 | cryptk | Jack87, not true |
| 08:09.26 | cryptk | I did it the other night at work |
| 08:09.34 | cryptk | but mine was in a chroot |
| 08:09.40 | Jack87 | cryptk, did you actually did it? |
| 08:09.53 | Jack87 | cryptk, his is a chroot in xserver :) |
| 08:10.14 | cryptk | his linux install is in a chroot |
| 08:10.17 | cryptk | his synergy is outside it |
| 08:10.23 | cryptk | on mine both were inside |
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| 08:10.40 | Jack87 | hehe exciting stuff |
| 08:11.07 | cryptk | so I was the first to use a mouse in X server, dtz is first do do it with synergy outside the chroot |
| 08:11.13 | Jack87 | did the chrooting come into play because of our experimenting on nook? |
| 08:11.55 | Jack87 | i dont ever remember much chroot installs going on with the phones |
| 08:12.33 | cryptk | Jack87, that's because the phones aren't powerful enough, and don't have a large enough screen, to make it feasable |
| 08:12.35 | dtzWill | Jack87: http://www.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Debian_chroot&action=history ;) |
| 08:12.42 | cryptk | but it had been done |
| 08:12.48 | cryptk | but not much GUI stuff |
| 08:12.54 | cryptk | but chroots definitely did exist |
| 08:13.14 | Jack87 | hehe i remember i had a desktop enviorment running with open office using will's xserver before |
| 08:13.21 | dtzWill | zomg this is good shit. |
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| 08:13.28 | dtzWill | is a happy dtzWill |
| 08:13.31 | Jack87 | on the original pre. boy it did not handle it at all |
| 08:13.42 | Jack87 | :) dtzWill you make me happy |
| 08:14.02 | dtzWill | Jack87: d'awww ;) |
| 08:14.09 | Jack87 | dtzWill, i contributed to that page haha i didnt even remember |
| 08:14.24 | dtzWill | lol! didn't even see that |
| 08:14.25 | dtzWill | looooool |
| 08:14.28 | dtzWill | s'all good |
| 08:14.34 | Jack87 | haha |
| 08:16.07 | Jack87 | holly shit lol funny stuff i feel silly now |
| 08:16.41 | Jack87 | dtzWill, i bet its nice to see all your work last year on x is paying off now with tp |
| 08:17.00 | dtzWill | hehe yep :D |
| 08:17.51 | Jack87 | needs to reboot brb |
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| 12:07.49 | cryptk | , |
| 12:38.35 | cryptk | hello all!!! |
| 12:39.11 | cryptk | synergy |
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| 13:07.34 | infidel | hello all |
| 13:07.53 | cryptk | hello |
| 13:09.07 | infidel | i seem to have an issue after setting up ssh on my pre i can't connect to web pages. have you heard of this problem before? |
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| 13:09.49 | cryptk | nope |
| 13:09.55 | infidel | lucky me |
| 13:10.02 | cryptk | i guess, lol |
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| 13:38.01 | matbee | what is this TouchPad X Windows Synergy |
| 13:41.42 | summatusmentis | matbee: synergy is something that allows keyboard/mouse sharing |
| 13:41.56 | matbee | :-/ |
| 13:42.04 | summatusmentis | so, they're running X, and sharing the keyboard/mouse over the network, on the touchpad |
| 13:42.39 | summatusmentis | http://www.amazon.com/Cobweb-Neal-Stephenson/dp/0553383442/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1310444056&sr=8-16 |
| 13:42.42 | matbee | that's what i dont get |
| 13:42.46 | summatusmentis | crap, stupid copy-paste |
| 13:42.53 | summatusmentis | http://synergy-foss.org/ |
| 13:43.05 | summatusmentis | matbee: which part? |
| 13:43.15 | matbee | it's not sharing the keyboard/mouse |
| 13:43.45 | summatusmentis | it... what? |
| 13:44.20 | cryptk | matbee: yes it is |
| 13:44.34 | matbee | let me see this again |
| 13:44.44 | cryptk | one keyboard and mouse... connected to the pc |
| 13:44.58 | cryptk | working for both the pc and the tp |
| 13:45.01 | summatusmentis | they're running an X server on the touchpad, and sharing the kb/mouse from the pc to the X server on the tp |
| 13:45.27 | cryptk | keyboard input is directed to whatever screen the mouse is on |
| 13:45.41 | matbee | youre sharing an x-server display over a network |
| 13:45.47 | cryptk | no |
| 13:46.01 | gaurav_ | just watched your video cryptk |
| 13:46.04 | gaurav_ | nice stuff |
| 13:46.13 | cryptk | there is an x server on the pc and another one on the tp |
| 13:46.22 | summatusmentis | matbee: read the link I provided you |
| 13:46.43 | cryptk | the to is running its own ubuntu natty and gnome |
| 13:46.50 | cryptk | tp* |
| 13:46.57 | matbee | ohhhh |
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| 13:47.23 | matbee | it looked like vnc |
| 13:47.34 | matbee | ha |
| 13:48.19 | matbee | so the tp can run ubuntu |
| 13:49.08 | summatusmentis | in a chroot environment, as I understand it |
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| 14:03.56 | Loudergood | yeah that synergy work is awesome |
| 14:06.34 | cryptk | matbee: I also want to point out that the desktop is running gnome shell, the tp obviously is not |
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| 14:10.15 | matbee | now im excited |
| 14:11.11 | matbee | well, ws |
| 14:11.12 | matbee | was* |
| 14:11.18 | matbee | i just installed synergy on my laptop/desktop on linux |
| 14:11.22 | matbee | hello configuration hell |
| 14:11.29 | matbee | rm -rf synergy |
| 14:13.32 | cryptk | it isn't that bad, lll |
| 14:13.57 | cryptk | and if a little text file scares you... |
| 14:14.47 | matbee | lol |
| 14:16.08 | matbee | doesn't scare me, no. Funny how linux guys hold -0- interest in gui |
| 14:17.51 | cryptk | synergy interfaces with X itself, not gnome, or kde, or lxde etc |
| 14:18.32 | cryptk | and it isn't that we aren't interested... we just don't need them |
| 14:32.48 | matbee | but you use xwindows |
| 14:32.53 | matbee | that's why it's so strange |
| 14:33.57 | matbee | do you know which port it uses? |
| 14:35.17 | cryptk | 24800 |
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| 14:41.01 | matbee | i hate our network at work.. our wifi and lan networks cannot communicate |
| 14:41.06 | matbee | i have to tunnel out |
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| 14:51.23 | rwhitby | http://youtu.be/Ua-iFu4N1Yk <- 4 different webOS devices running Synergy. |
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| 15:03.58 | cat-xeger | Hm... has anybody run into stability issues with preware on webos2.1 causing luna manager to reset irregularly? I know I'd asked before -- and I've since doctored my pre2 ... and thus far it seems to be a bit better, but not fixed... |
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| 15:09.56 | rwhitby | cat-xeger: your experience is not a common one |
| 15:11.00 | cat-xeger | rwhitby - I'm trying to figure out what my best bet is. I'm perfectly willing to jump up and down and be annoyed, to see if I can get replacement hardware... but (understandably, I think) don't want to do that if it's going to be the same problem again. |
| 15:11.30 | rwhitby | Preware has no stability issues on any webOS version as far as I know. |
| 15:11.58 | cryptk | I have never experienced any |
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| 15:14.12 | cryptk | rwhitby: you are having far too much fun with synergyfoss |
| 15:14.30 | cryptk | just watched your vid |
| 15:14.30 | cat-xeger | I still don't know enough about the underpinnings to be able to come up with a reasonable idea of where the problems might be, and I'd rather avoid mad flailing (since it seems like I've been flailing plenty already) |
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| 15:15.24 | cryptk | rwhitby: now I want a vid with all of those devices running different gui's and such |
| 15:15.46 | haeffb | good morning - haeffb broadcasting live from the highway through freeTether. |
| 15:16.26 | cryptk | kde on the tp, gnome on pre2, lxde on veer and e on pixi |
| 15:16.52 | cryptk | haeffb: you've been missing all the cool x news |
| 15:16.54 | haeffb | oops, wrong channel. carry on. |
| 15:17.17 | haeffb | I've been seeing rod's tweets |
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| 16:34.39 | cat-xeger | pats pno on the back |
| 16:43.19 | jhojho | just saw this on precentral |
| 16:43.22 | jhojho | http://www.shopping.hp.com/accessories-store/touchpad?jumpid=in_r11694_webos_accessories_jun11_shopping-accessories-touchpad-touchstone |
| 16:43.38 | jhojho | coupon code: touchpad15 <== 15% off |
| 16:45.28 | AtomicPlayboy | Nice |
| 16:45.37 | AtomicPlayboy | How long is that good for? |
| 16:46.06 | jhojho | dunno |
| 16:46.18 | jhojho | but I'm canceling my amazon order and using this instead |
| 16:46.34 | AtomicPlayboy | What's the estimated ship date? Or is it really "next day?" |
| 16:46.45 | AtomicPlayboy | As in, I get it tomorrow or Thursday? |
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| 17:03.13 | jhojho | dunno |
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| 17:12.48 | kill_dano | I've got big problems |
| 17:16.13 | kill_dano | Woke up to my Sprint Pre 2 with a message sayng something about exchange activesync, a security issue and needing to creat a pin. The message locked my phone. I could not go into card view or access anything else... I have no hotmail or activesync accounts on my phone so I'm like what the hell... inputed a code, message went away, but now I have now accounts on my pre2. No emails, no calindars no sms or chat. ... restarted |
| 17:17.16 | kill_dano | is it possible for me to go a few months with out needing to doctor? |
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| 17:19.26 | oc80z | yeah |
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| 17:38.00 | keith | kill_dano: do you have exchange? |
| 17:38.10 | kill_dano | nope |
| 17:38.17 | keith | you have no exchange? wow |
| 17:38.19 | keith | thats cool. |
| 17:38.22 | kill_dano | hah |
| 17:38.25 | kill_dano | I don;t think so |
| 17:38.56 | keith | hopefully you keep good backups! |
| 17:39.07 | kill_dano | meh no need |
| 17:39.32 | kill_dano | everything is in the cloud but my games |
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| 18:07.25 | kill_dano | Woke up to my Sprint Pre 2 with a message sayng something about exchange activesync, a security issue and needing to creat a pin. The message locked my phone. I could not go into card view or access anything else... I have no hotmail or activesync accounts on my phone so I'm like what the hell... inputed a code, message went away, but now I have now accounts on my pre2. No emails, no calindars no sms or chat. ... restarted |
| 18:08.09 | AtomicPlayboy | You're not hooked up to any Exchange servers, are you? |
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| 18:50.14 | infidel | anyone have a good tutorial on installing openssh? |
| 18:51.29 | AtomicPlayboy | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/OpenSSH_Install |
| 18:51.41 | AtomicPlayboy | Funny, I was just doing that last night. |
| 18:51.53 | infidel | how did it come out? |
| 18:52.38 | AtomicPlayboy | It worked great until I f'd my configs and had to doctor again. |
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| 18:53.27 | infidel | ouch |
| 18:53.33 | infidel | even ppp0? |
| 18:54.03 | AtomicPlayboy | I only used eth0 |
| 18:54.05 | AtomicPlayboy | Wifi |
| 18:54.19 | infidel | thanks for the link |
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| 18:58.41 | AtomicPlayboy | Sure thing |
| 18:59.09 | AtomicPlayboy | You can thank rwhitby for putting it there (or whomever wrote it if not him) |
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| 19:07.03 | george__ | does anyone know how to create ipks from .theme zips since prethemer is down? |
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| 20:05.20 | elpollodiablo1 | rwhitby and dtzWill: what kind of restructuring changes are you making to X? what is the over all plan? |
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| 20:12.49 | nightburn | Freshly meta-doctored sprintified franken pre2 has an available webos update from 2.1.0 to 2.1.0 ? 7mb |
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| 20:40.22 | dtzWill | elpollodiablo1: mostly restructuring how we package x up |
| 20:40.43 | dtzWill | elpollodiablo1: and our work on getting it wokring on the TP (As well as other devices) is in the x_restructure branch as well |
| 20:40.50 | dtzWill | plan is to have X awesomeness best we can :) |
| 20:41.10 | elpollodiablo1 | yeah I have been looking in x_restructure branch |
| 20:41.48 | cxreg | when's that xecutah/synergy stuff landing in preware? |
| 20:41.50 | cxreg | looks tasty |
| 20:42.16 | elpollodiablo1 | alright wasnt sure if there was anything specific you were trying to do with restructuring it. |
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| 20:43.12 | elpollodiablo1 | I was familiar with v0.2 for X which was fairly simple in set up. |
| 20:44.11 | dtzWill | elpollodiablo1: we're actually going back towards a very similar model |
| 20:44.32 | dtzWill | elpollodiablo1: the x_restructure branch (specifically its naming) started when i was working to restructure our packging such that ever target app |
| 20:44.39 | dtzWill | say a bare xserver package, an xterm package, etc |
| 20:44.43 | dtzWill | were entirely self-contained |
| 20:44.56 | dtzWill | such that they played nice with the jail, and potentially app-cat-suitable |
| 20:45.22 | dtzWill | (the old structure had a special 'xlib' package the rest all knew about and looked there for the x libs and such) |
| 20:45.33 | dtzWill | but accessing oother package's files isnt' very jail friendly |
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| 20:45.43 | dtzWill | new structure has the xserver and xlib packages from before combined |
| 20:45.48 | dtzWill | such that the xserver _is_ standalone |
| 20:46.17 | dtzWill | but since xterm for example needs root to run anyway (jail doesn't give us a tty), we just settled and the xterm package just looks for the libs in the xserver, to reduce copied files etc |
| 20:46.25 | dtzWill | anyway so in short it's basicaly the same as before package-structure-wise |
| 20:46.29 | dtzWill | xlib and xserve combined |
| 20:46.41 | cxreg | dtzWill: the screenshots are hella impressive |
| 20:46.42 | dtzWill | oh and instead of launcher icons, xecutah drives it all |
| 20:47.09 | elpollodiablo1 | alright so no root based X apps can be launched and ran once the Xserver is launched |
| 20:47.26 | elpollodiablo1 | through excutah |
| 20:47.27 | dtzWill | xecutah is a launcher of sorts (seems to be x-specific atm, not sure of overall plans) lets you run things as root |
| 20:47.33 | AtomicPlayboy | Is anyone working on a terminal emulator for TouchPad? |
| 20:47.47 | dtzWill | elpollodiablo1: nopers, the sever's root-ness is separate from the client's rootness |
| 20:47.56 | dtzWill | you can run a root xterm on a non-privileged xserver |
| 20:48.09 | cxreg | AtomicPlayboy: the xterm in dtzWill's work is probably the one you really want |
| 20:48.12 | dtzWill | well on a mobile device where such a thing is les security-painful or something |
| 20:48.40 | cxreg | AtomicPlayboy: http://twitpic.com/5ovklu |
| 20:48.46 | dtzWill | AtomicPlayboy: yeppers, http://twitter.com/#!/wdtz/status/90622303548882945 |
| 20:48.46 | elpollodiablo1 | oh alright |
| 20:49.12 | dtzWill | we're also trying to make the whole x thing a bit ...cleaner |
| 20:49.18 | dtzWill | the reason it never left testing feeds earlier |
| 20:49.34 | dtzWill | was it just wasn't polished, and the packaging process was some nonsense i had scripted locally, etc |
| 20:49.41 | dtzWill | just not the same caliber of goodness we'd want |
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| 20:49.55 | dtzWill | anyway hopefully the lands soon, it's comnig along great ^_^ |
| 20:50.25 | AtomicPlayboy | Sweet, thanks. |
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| 20:51.10 | AtomicPlayboy | Is it going into homebrew or App Catalog? |
| 20:51.32 | elpollodiablo1 | dtzWill: thanks for all the details, I will keep an eye on the changes you are making and maybe even dive and to see if there is anything I can help with. |
| 20:53.11 | dtzWill | elpollodiablo1: sure thing, and will do :) |
| 20:53.21 | dtzWill | AtomicPlayboy: homebrew, although x server i tthiiihnk could go into app cat |
| 20:53.32 | AtomicPlayboy | I'm guessing it'd be its own emulator |
| 20:53.36 | AtomicPlayboy | Err |
| 20:53.47 | AtomicPlayboy | Not really an emulator considering the underlying OS |
| 20:54.18 | Jack87 | lol having fun with synergy with all the webos devices? |
| 20:54.33 | AtomicPlayboy | Here's a more immediate question: is there a good ssh client for webOS/TouchPad yet? |
| 20:54.40 | dtzWill | Jack87: indeed ^.^ |
| 20:54.45 | AtomicPlayboy | If I just want to ssh into other boxes from my TP, not necessarily the TP itself |
| 20:54.53 | dtzWill | AtomicPlayboy: short answer is 'no', afaik |
| 20:55.09 | dtzWill | AtomicPlayboy: however the xecutah/xterm/xserver stuff is pretty much ready i think for that kind of usage |
| 20:55.24 | dtzWill | but few more details to work out, praticularly regarding packaging and making it available/usable/documented/etc |
| 20:56.00 | AtomicPlayboy | In other words, if I install it now, expect system breakage at some point? |
| 20:56.04 | AtomicPlayboy | Or is it moderately stable? |
| 20:56.28 | dtzWill | AtomicPlayboy: the issue is how would you install it |
| 20:56.33 | dtzWill | atm we all just build it ourselves, for example. |
| 20:56.41 | dtzWill | and no it's plenty stable |
| 20:56.47 | AtomicPlayboy | Ah |
| 20:56.55 | dtzWill | issues are more along the lines of not supporting some of the keys on the keyboards, etc |
| 20:56.56 | AtomicPlayboy | So it's not in a ready-for-install ipkg yet |
| 20:57.14 | dtzWill | AtomicPlayboy: not in a publicly available manner, no. |
| 20:57.35 | AtomicPlayboy | Gocha |
| 20:57.37 | dtzWill | but sources are there for those that are interested, and that all works well :) |
| 20:57.54 | AtomicPlayboy | Yeah I still don't trust my source-building skills |
| 20:58.24 | dtzWill | AtomicPlayboy: this particular setup is a bit of a doozy, as far as these things go, heh >.< |
| 20:58.29 | dtzWill | one of the things we're working on :) |
| 20:58.32 | Jack87 | dtzWill, any idea of keyboard input without synergy yet |
| 20:58.33 | AtomicPlayboy | I can see, by the looks of it |
| 20:58.58 | AtomicPlayboy | Wonder what it would take to build a TTY/SSH client |
| 20:59.21 | AtomicPlayboy | Something like PuTTY for webOS |
| 20:59.21 | dtzWill | Jack87: idk why they couldn't get keyboard working |
| 20:59.23 | dtzWill | worked great for me |
| 20:59.28 | AtomicPlayboy | looks for money to throw at developers |
| 20:59.30 | dtzWill | i was talking on xchat yesterday |
| 20:59.37 | dtzWill | y'all saw it! :) |
| 21:00.09 | dtzWill | (i was on as dtz, talking through xchat via synergy hehe) |
| 21:00.37 | Jack87 | dtzWill, i mean OSK |
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| 21:01.10 | Jack87 | is loving the development history videos |
| 21:01.46 | dtzWill | Jack87: oh the OSK works too, but misc keys don't work. |
| 21:01.53 | dtzWill | just need to sit down and update the mappings, honestly. |
| 21:02.12 | dtzWill | and haven't had a chance to set that up and make it happen yet |
| 21:02.26 | Jack87 | oh cool. thats nothing, just time. can come after you have all the magic done |
| 21:02.47 | Jack87 | if its some sort of simple set of text maybe i can help |
| 21:03.19 | Jack87 | i can do tedious shit if its simple enough while you do real work :) |
| 21:04.21 | dtzWill | Jack87: appreciated, only ther required debuggin information will require a special build and such, but if i get there and it's offload-able in the nature of the work, i'd love the help :) |
| 21:04.25 | dtzWill | i'll let you know, :) |
| 21:04.55 | Jack87 | keep me posted. and that goes for any other portion that you can pass off |
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| 21:40.28 | PuffTheMagic | synergy on webos == http://i.imgur.com/9Hy0o.gif |
| 21:41.53 | AtomicPlayboy | Lol. |
| 21:46.42 | PatrickC | lol |
| 21:54.24 | rwhitby | AtomicPlayboy: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/OpenSSH_Install is an obsolete page, and has now been marked as such. |
| 21:54.37 | AtomicPlayboy | Ah, okay |
| 21:55.04 | AtomicPlayboy | You probably showed me already, but is there a new page for SSH? |
| 21:58.13 | rwhitby | yes, I've put it at the top of that page. |
| 21:58.24 | AtomicPlayboy | Ah, okay |
| 21:58.28 | rwhitby | as with all packages, you read the HomePage link in the package description in Preware |
| 21:58.40 | AtomicPlayboy | Gotcha |
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| 22:08.53 | rwhitby | as expected, the Synergy stuff went straight over the heads of the webOS blogs |
| 22:09.32 | AtomicPlayboy | Pull it out of the air and smash it in their faces. |
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| 22:31.48 | rwhitby | nah, I'll wait until we put it in Preware. |
| 22:33.17 | Error454 | To get post-install scripts to execute on package install, do you have to package with WOSQI? Or does palm-install do the job? Sometimes when I package with WOSQI, I don't see a Luna restart happen on install. |
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| 22:33.32 | Error454 | ^palm-package |
| 22:34.22 | rwhitby | Error454: depends on how you package it up |
| 22:34.50 | rwhitby | and Luna Restart is always done by the installer program, not by the package post-install script |
| 22:34.56 | Error454 | rwhitby: Is there a recommended method? I'm a little confused. |
| 22:35.15 | Error454 | rwhitby: Oh, so I should be installing via preware then? |
| 22:35.19 | rwhitby | always use Preware to install packages is my recommendation |
| 22:35.30 | Error454 | that's probably what I have been missing |
| 22:35.53 | rwhitby | but I personally just use palm-install for everything, and restart things as needed |
| 22:36.42 | nburn | I keep asking this. anyone know? I have a freshly sprintified meta-doctored franken pre2. After the meta-doctor i ran updates and it wants to update webos 2.1.0 to 2.1.0 ? |
| 22:36.57 | Error454 | I tried packaging up Xecutah and am getting service permission errors when I start X server/term. Maybe I need to a restart |
| 22:39.28 | rwhitby | did you use the Makefile to package it? |
| 22:39.39 | rwhitby | nburn: yes, that is known |
| 22:40.21 | nburn | rwhitby: not an issue? |
| 22:40.34 | rwhitby | haven't heard of it being one |
| 22:40.38 | nburn | rwhitby: just run the update and forget about it ? |
| 22:40.42 | rwhitby | yep |
| 22:41.04 | nburn | thanks |
| 22:42.46 | Error454 | rwhitby: I used Jason's utility, I didn't see the make package option in there before |
| 22:44.00 | Error454 | Let me try it that way |
| 22:46.52 | rwhitby | Error454: In general, utilities from Jason are not comprehensive enough for the stuff from WebOS Internals |
| 22:47.29 | rwhitby | (not through any fault of his - he does great stuff for 99% of the users) |
| 22:48.04 | rwhitby | Xecutah is currently in the 1% for which the standard tools like the ones from Jason do not support |
| 22:48.26 | Error454 | rwhitby: That makes sense |
| 22:48.41 | Error454 | I was pretty excited to see the synergy stuff today |
| 22:49.05 | rwhitby | Error454: are you going to be a user, or are you going to help with the development? |
| 22:49.39 | Error454 | rwhitby: I'll love to help with development |
| 22:50.19 | rwhitby | Error454: when you have build.git, cross-compile.git and xecutah.git all building, drop me a line. |
| 22:50.38 | rwhitby | what we need help on at the moment is key mapping files for Pre 2 and Pixi |
| 22:51.00 | Error454 | rwhitby: Ok, will do, I have a Pre2 so perhaps I can help out in that area |
| 22:53.31 | Error454 | I was syncing up my cross-compile environment last night and was coming up against some odd sound libraries that were missing. Is this from precorder? |
| 22:54.46 | PatrickC | rwhitby: I can do pre2 |
| 22:56.23 | rwhitby | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Xecutah is how to build. Expand the wiki page as you go. Once you've got to the end of that, then we'll welcome you to the development channel. |
| 23:00.10 | PatrickC | rwhitby: what's the best dev environment? what do you use? |
| 23:00.20 | Error454 | I will return once victorious |
| 23:00.36 | PatrickC | rwhitby: never mind. saw the wiki |
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