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05:21.13PatrickCwhat happened to the good, 'ol vkb from 1.4.5?
05:21.20PatrickCwhy doesn't it work in 2.x?
05:23.41cryptkPatrickC, vkb in 1.4.5 was a homebrew creation based on the symbol popup
05:23.48cryptkthat code doesn't exist in 2.X
05:23.53PatrickCah
05:23.58cryptk2.X has it's own vkb, but is disabled on the phones
05:23.58PatrickCthat totally stinks
05:24.05cryptkthere is a patch to turn it on
05:24.12PatrickCnot anymore
05:24.15PatrickCit was removed irc
05:24.17PatrickCiirc*
05:24.47PatrickCI used to use 2.x's vkb.. super buggy
05:24.56PatrickCI want the homebrew one back..
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05:32.40cryptkyeah, I do remember it being buggy
05:32.54cryptkPatrickC, why use a vkb when you have a physical one?
05:33.02cryptkand limited screen real estate on the phones
05:33.04PatrickCWordpress app
05:33.12PatrickClooks/works better in landscape
05:33.29PatrickCyes.. the Enyo wordpress app.. pre2
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17:18.55RavenIIOk...so activated Sprint Pre+...swapped comm board with unactivated Pre- board....can make voice...but no data...can't update data profile...anyone run into that issue?
17:29.00keithdid you extract your keys and everything?
17:29.10RavenIIKeys?
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17:30.04PatrickCcall sprint and get the key for it
17:30.10PatrickCMSL
17:30.22RavenIII have that...
17:34.31PatrickCthen type ##MSL#
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18:05.20RavenIIReally weird that it won't pick up the data settings.
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18:57.36RavenIIWhy does sprint cs suck so bad?
18:57.58PatrickCask for advance tech
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19:14.12RavenIIIs it possible that data doesn't work because of some sort of mismatch in hardware?
19:14.18RavenIII can't imagine that being the case...
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19:56.49RavenIIOk, so...I doctored back to the stock Sprint 1.4.5 on my P+ and voila...data.
19:57.13RavenIII feel bad for ripping the sprint rep a new one...
19:57.19summatusmentisnever feel bad
19:57.25RavenIIsummatusmentis: yeah, good call...
19:57.30summatusmentisfeelings are for the weak :P
19:57.33RavenIIHahaha
19:57.48scoutcamperRavenII, blame the reps for sprint not getting new devices
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19:58.00PatrickClol
19:58.01RavenIII really tore into her too...
19:58.15RavenIII actually do feel bad...at least it was online chat and not voice...
19:58.21RavenIII would have REALLY felt bad.
19:58.24summatusmentisdid say "here's a sprint pre3, don't tell anyone, and stop yelling at me!"
19:58.39RavenIINah...that twat.
19:58.49summatusmentissrsly
19:59.01RavenIIShe said..."Sir, I'm making <$10/hr...you think I care?"
19:59.05RavenIIjust in other words.
19:59.12summatusmentishah
19:59.14PatrickChahaha
20:00.19RavenIIRight...so...back to me wiping my device....along with it's backup...
20:02.34linuxjacquesThe other words were "they don't pay me enough to deal with this (&^*(%(*%("
20:14.01RavenIIDamn it, should have done a PRL update.
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22:25.28dtzWillwhoa pre3 has 480x800 screen?!
22:30.12linuxjacquesso they say
22:30.41linuxjacquesit'll be out a little after the entire world moves to QHD
22:37.19dtzWilllinuxjacques: well they're sending out emails to devs telling them to update their apps to that resolution
22:37.27dtzWillso it better :)
22:37.40dtzWillheh, qhd :(
22:44.11linuxjacqueswhat about the 7" tablet?
22:45.00dtzWilllinuxjacques: no idea. all i know is i'm gonna hafta find some GUI framework that I like/can use, or pony up in terms of building resizable UI's
22:45.15dtzWillbecause writing and testing different ones for all these devices is just silly :)
22:49.54linuxjacquesyeah, AFAWK pre3 won't have enyo, right?
22:50.02dtzWilllinuxjacques: indeed
22:50.07dtzWilllinuxjacques: although i'm talking about PDK apps :(
22:50.29linuxjacquesduh, I shoulda known that
22:54.36linuxjacquesdtzWill: was it you who said the accelerometer axes on tp are different than on the phones?
22:57.06dtzWilllinuxjacques: yeah but only internally. SDL should expose the same
22:57.21linuxjacquesah, ok
22:57.24dtzWillor at least that's what i took from the sdl patch, i have almost zero experience with it
22:57.28dtzWillflips the z-axis or something iirc
22:57.43linuxjacquesdid you see anything in there about gyro or compass?
22:57.50linuxjacquesI should really look at them
22:58.02dtzWillnope, but they don't expose that via SDL anyway afaik
22:58.50dtzWillthe PDL_* methods aren't in SDL
22:58.57dtzWill(PDL_EnableCompass/PDL_GetCompass)
22:59.34dtzWillbut because i like you i'll do a quick grep on both ;)
22:59.46dtzWillnope, no gyro or compass in the sdl sources, just FYI
23:00.16linuxjacquesthank, I forgot I saw those pdl calls yesterday
23:00.50linuxjacqueshmm, I wonder how the gyro is being used
23:01.29dtzWilllinuxjacques: whta devices have a gyro? might be a dumb question...
23:03.02linuxjacquesAFAIK so far only the tp (of palm's devices)
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23:09.41linuxjacqueshmm, from the datasheet, it looks like the gyro might be interfaces with the accel
23:09.47linuxjacquesinterfaceD
23:10.22linuxjacques"The MPU-30X0 has an embedded 3-axis gyroscope and Digital Motion 2 ProcessorTM (DMP) hardware accelerator engine with a secondary I C port that interfaces to third 2 party digital accelerometers to deliver a complete 6-axis sensor fusion output to its primary I C port. This combines both linear and rotational motion into a single data stream for the application."
23:10.53linuxjacquess/I C/I2C/
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