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| 01:06.13 | ziplock503 | I <3 webos-internals |
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| 02:53.42 | PatrickC | scoutcamper|away: ping |
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| 04:12.09 | PatrickC | scoutcamper: ping |
| 04:12.35 | scoutcamper | PatrickC, pong |
| 04:13.00 | PatrickC | I used the source, and found out how to bypass activation.. its a .patch .. |
| 04:13.08 | iam070 | hi, i wanna ask how to load custom kernel for pre+ with novacom boot mem:// < uImage |
| 04:14.08 | PatrickC | scoutcamper: my question.. why not distribute the .patch in the feeds? |
| 04:14.32 | scoutcamper | PatrickC, ask rwhitby or oil |
| 04:14.43 | scoutcamper | im not familiar with it |
| 04:14.46 | PatrickC | ok.. rwhitby ping? |
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| 04:22.13 | pigsflew | has anyone released a package through the precentral feeds before? |
| 04:22.34 | PatrickC | yes |
| 04:23.03 | pigsflew | I think i must have done something wrong with setting up my package, because people trying to download it are... simply failing to download |
| 04:23.18 | PatrickC | what is it? |
| 04:23.18 | pigsflew | preware spins forever |
| 04:23.38 | pigsflew | It's "Increase Touchpad Volume" under Other ->Linux Application -> Utilities |
| 04:23.52 | PatrickC | I don't have a TP |
| 04:24.00 | pigsflew | the ipk is also here: http://pigsflew.com/downloads/webos/ |
| 04:24.05 | pigsflew | ahh |
| 04:24.25 | pigsflew | well all it does is drops an upstart script in postinst which calls asound |
| 04:24.29 | pigsflew | and in prerm removes that script |
| 04:25.26 | pigsflew | i'm wondering if my CONTROL file is wrong or something |
| 04:27.00 | PatrickC | no clue.. sorry.. |
| 04:27.09 | rwhitby | pigsflew: do you have the Location field in your Source: line? |
| 04:27.31 | pigsflew | No--does that need to be set to the url for the file? |
| 04:27.52 | PatrickC | rwhitby: quick question: why don't you distribute the bypass-activation.patch in preware? |
| 04:27.55 | pigsflew | or wait... |
| 04:27.56 | rwhitby | yep, since precentral no longer has packages at a computable address, so it needs to be specified |
| 04:28.11 | rwhitby | PatrickC: has someone submitted it? |
| 04:28.19 | PatrickC | don't think so |
| 04:28.24 | PatrickC | I couldn't find it today |
| 04:28.25 | rwhitby | that would be the reason then |
| 04:28.38 | PatrickC | I didn't know if you had a reason.. |
| 04:28.47 | pigsflew | interesting--how does one find out what that will be before submitting it? |
| 04:29.08 | PatrickC | rwhitby: is it open for submission? |
| 04:29.20 | rwhitby | pigsflew: good question - one for PreCentral, since they designed their URL scheme, not me. |
| 04:29.36 | rwhitby | PatrickC: what does the submission page say? |
| 04:29.48 | PatrickC | I havent been there recently.. |
| 04:29.51 | PatrickC | goes to check |
| 04:29.56 | rwhitby | wonders how many times he will need to say things like that before PatrickC learns ... |
| 04:30.27 | pigsflew | thank you again rwhitby, I'll find that out tomorrow, for tonight I'll just fix the package :) |
| 04:30.28 | scoutcamper | PatrickC, what would the point be? if you are in preware to install that patch you are already past its need |
| 04:30.53 | PatrickC | scoutcamper: it enables activation over wifi |
| 04:31.01 | PatrickC | for an actual palm-profile login |
| 04:31.09 | PatrickC | vs Impostah |
| 04:31.17 | scoutcamper | impostah does it just fine |
| 04:31.23 | rwhitby | not on 1.4.5 |
| 04:31.30 | scoutcamper | ok, thats true |
| 04:31.49 | PatrickC | impostah does not bring back my apps, launcher pages, accounts, signatures, cookies, etc. |
| 04:32.04 | rwhitby | actually, it can. |
| 04:32.14 | PatrickC | I couldn't find that.. where is it? |
| 04:32.23 | PatrickC | its not in the activation scene? |
| 04:32.25 | rwhitby | the restore button on the backups page |
| 04:32.38 | rwhitby | you can even choose an earlier backup if you like |
| 04:32.41 | PatrickC | goes to check |
| 04:33.42 | PatrickC | awesome! |
| 04:33.53 | PatrickC | why don't you have it run the most recent on signin? |
| 04:33.57 | rwhitby | but I would recommend using the patch for 1.4.5, since I only test Impostah on 2.x and later. |
| 04:34.22 | rwhitby | PatrickC: because that would conflict with many other uses of the activation page |
| 04:34.34 | PatrickC | ah true |
| 04:34.54 | PatrickC | maybe a popup option? if the user has a backup? |
| 04:36.06 | rwhitby | no |
| 04:36.12 | PatrickC | ok.. |
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| 04:36.26 | rwhitby | Impostah is not for naive users. |
| 04:36.50 | PatrickC | didn't know about the backups thing.. but uses Impostah all the time |
| 04:37.02 | NuttyBunny_Pre2 | hey rwhitby :) |
| 04:37.15 | PatrickC | hey NuttyBunny_Pre2 |
| 04:37.46 | NuttyBunny_Pre2 | hey! got your email |
| 04:37.57 | PatrickC | cool! look better? ;) |
| 04:47.05 | iamlxm | is there anyone that is familiar with the kernel of webos? |
| 04:48.47 | rwhitby | yes |
| 04:49.05 | rwhitby | what's your kernel development background? |
| 04:49.26 | rwhitby | (so I know how much knowledge to assume) |
| 04:50.53 | pigsflew | rwhitby, sorry to be a pain, but do you know how often the precentral feed updates? |
| 04:51.47 | rwhitby | pigsflew: let me check |
| 04:52.15 | pigsflew | actually, if I can check things like that myself--where would I go to look? |
| 04:52.47 | pigsflew | prefers to learn to fish :) |
| 04:52.59 | rwhitby | pigsflew: that one you can't since it's a cron job |
| 04:53.03 | pigsflew | ah |
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| 04:53.28 | rwhitby | pigsflew: the autobuilder runs every 15 minutes if idle. the precentral feed is checked for changes every hour |
| 04:53.53 | rwhitby | pigsflew: I will point you to logs.nslu2-linux.org where you can see the autobuilder logs |
| 04:54.51 | rwhitby | iamlxm: did you have a question about the kernel? |
| 05:17.25 | pigsflew | Hey, it's fixed :) Thanks rwhitby! |
| 05:34.02 | iamlxm | oh, sorry rwhitby. |
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| 05:35.16 | iamlxm | i followed the intoduce of custom kernel in the webos-internals wiki, compiled a uImage |
| 05:35.33 | rwhitby | that page is way out of date |
| 05:36.27 | rwhitby | iamlxm: http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/tree/testing-kernels is where we build the testing kernel feed |
| 05:36.47 | iamlxm | turn pre+ into recovery mode, then use novacom boot mem:// < uImage, pre+ successfully boot up, but i cat /proc/version, |
| 05:36.59 | iamlxm | i found that the kernel is not mine |
| 05:37.43 | rwhitby | your boot probably failed and it fell back to the stock kernel |
| 05:38.20 | iamlxm | automated? |
| 05:38.26 | rwhitby | yep |
| 05:38.32 | iamlxm | =.= |
| 05:38.44 | rwhitby | panic reboots, memload is in mem only |
| 05:39.16 | iamlxm | the compiler i used is (Sourcery G++ Lite 2011.03-42) 4.5.2 |
| 05:39.47 | rwhitby | iamlxm: all the information about how to successfully build kernels is in that repo, not any wiki pages. |
| 05:40.48 | rwhitby | iamlxm: git repository |
| 05:41.00 | rwhitby | http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/ |
| 05:42.09 | iamlxm | rwhitby: you mean that i should repo the kernel in webos-internals git? |
| 05:42.39 | rwhitby | iamlxm: I mean if you want to replicate our success in building kernels that build, then all the information is in that repo. |
| 05:43.27 | iamlxm | ok, thx |
| 05:43.38 | iamlxm | i will hava a try |
| 05:44.17 | rwhitby | and the patches we use are in http://git.webos-internals.org/kernels/patches |
| 05:46.10 | iamlxm | u r kind , see u. |
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| 05:53.01 | Abyssul | What kernel would you guys suggest for pre2? |
| 05:54.21 | rwhitby | one of the stable ones |
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| 06:03.35 | Abyssul | They are all experimental |
| 06:06.21 | Abyssul | My sprintified pre 2 made from GSM only shows kernels from the testing feeds |
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| 06:42.40 | cryptk | Abyssul, that is because you have the testing kernel feed enabled... the versions in that feed are newer, as such preware shows you the latest version |
| 06:42.53 | cryptk | if you disable the kernel testing feed, you will see the lower versions in the stable feed |
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| 07:04.32 | joy | hello? |
| 07:04.49 | joy | can any1 help me |
| 07:05.03 | pigsflew | depends on what you need :) |
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| 07:07.18 | rwhitby | ~ask |
| 07:07.18 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 07:11.01 | dtzWill | why is everyone against me :( |
| 07:11.18 | dtzWill | http://instantrimshot.com/ |
| 07:12.40 | dtzWill | oh, looks like we missed our user in distress |
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| 07:21.31 | pigsflew | rwhitby, So I figured out what the pattern is |
| 07:22.27 | pigsflew | whatever the application is named on precentral's listing of it, it lowercases and puts dashes between, and the url is /downloads/that |
| 07:22.43 | pigsflew | except that the name on the page is not necessarily related to the name in the package |
| 07:23.02 | pigsflew | so... yeah, we can guess it in advance, but preware can't |
| 07:39.21 | rwhitby | pigsflew: yep |
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| 14:06.52 | haeffb | in order to use SSH from ubuntu to webOS device, do I need to create RSA keys on ubuntu machine? or webos? Or does it matter? |
| 14:07.30 | haeffb | thinks they are created on client - which would be ubuntu in this case... |
| 14:08.04 | haeffb | but then I copy the public key to ... where... on the TouchPad? |
| 14:08.14 | RagingMind | you can create them where ever is convenient |
| 14:08.27 | RagingMind | as long as you move/copy the right keys to the right place |
| 14:08.45 | stbuehler | in order to keep the private key private you shouldn't generate it somewhere public |
| 14:09.02 | haeffb | "somewhere public" ? |
| 14:09.12 | haeffb | men's room at the bus station? |
| 14:09.28 | stbuehler | any pc your are not the only admin on |
| 14:09.35 | RagingMind | as long as you have a secure way to transport it and store/remove it then it doesn't matter as much |
| 14:09.38 | haeffb | ok, got that |
| 14:10.09 | haeffb | so, I created keys on my laptop, then copy the id_rsa.pub to /media/internal. Then what? |
| 14:10.36 | haeffb | copy to .ssh/authorized_keys on the TP? |
| 14:10.37 | RagingMind | that's the part I always get lost on |
| 14:10.57 | RagingMind | but remember the server is the phone |
| 14:13.19 | NuttyBunny | I assume /var/home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 14:14.12 | haeffb | and you can have more than one key in that file... ? |
| 14:14.27 | haeffb | say I wanted to be able to login from multiple clients... |
| 14:14.41 | stbuehler | just cat the .pubs together |
| 14:15.06 | RagingMind | http://en.webos-internals.org/wiki/OpenSSH_Install |
| 14:15.44 | PatrickC | doctored about 8 times yesterday.. never lost the USB :D |
| 14:15.52 | stbuehler | it is a good idea to give your ssh keys good "names" in the comment in the .pub file, so you know which to delete if you lose a key |
| 14:23.49 | haeffb | why are computers so picky about spelling? |
| 14:24.21 | haeffb | Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). |
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| 14:27.49 | stbuehler | check permissions |
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| 19:14.16 | MactavishF | Hi |
| 19:14.36 | MactavishF | Is there anybody who knows how to build a feed? |
| 19:16.34 | PatrickC | yes |
| 19:16.45 | MactavishF | Hi Patrick, |
| 19:16.53 | MactavishF | Could you tell me how? |
| 19:18.17 | PatrickC | lemme grab the link |
| 19:18.54 | MactavishF | thanks |
| 19:18.57 | PatrickC | MactavishF: http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/282230-ipkg-feed-generator-v1-0-a.html |
| 19:19.22 | MactavishF | Nope |
| 19:19.28 | MactavishF | this thing doesn't work |
| 19:19.37 | PatrickC | it should |
| 19:19.47 | MactavishF | I have tried but it get some error |
| 19:19.50 | PatrickC | that's the easiest, (and I believe only public) way to do it |
| 19:20.20 | MactavishF | Yes, I know that. But unluckily, I just keep going get errors. |
| 19:20.38 | PatrickC | you should ask Jason |
| 19:20.43 | PatrickC | sorry, I have no clue |
| 19:20.53 | PatrickC | paste the error. I can try and help |
| 19:20.58 | MactavishF | java -Xmx48m -jar feed.jar Error: Archive entry data.tar.gz is truncated.For input string: "??????15??" java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "??????15??" at java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(NumberFormatException.java:48) at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:449) at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:499) at ca.canucksoftware.ipkg.Archive.extract(Archiv |
| 19:21.14 | PatrickC | umm.. no clue |
| 19:21.17 | MactavishF | Sorry, it's in a mess. Let me re-send it |
| 19:21.33 | MactavishF | java -Xmx48m -jar feed.jar |
| 19:21.47 | MactavishF | Error: Archive entry data.tar.gz is truncated.For input string: "??????15??" |
| 19:22.01 | MactavishF | java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "??????15??" |
| 19:22.26 | MactavishF | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.42 | MactavishF | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.52 | MactavishF | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.00 | MactavishF | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.09 | MactavishF | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.17 | MactavishF | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.26 | MactavishF | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.27 | MactavishF | â¦â¦another question, does anybody know how to flush the dns? |
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| 19:28.53 | MactavishF | hi |
| 19:29.28 | MactavishF | ...seems that every body is busy now... |
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| 19:36.18 | haeffb | back from the lake and resuming my quest to ssh into the TP. Now I get "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." |
| 19:36.45 | haeffb | Is this Agent Smith...and why did he admit failure? |
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| 19:37.10 | Abyssul-Pre | anyway to use impostah to trick my Sprint Pre2 to tell the Blackboard app that I use Sprint? it currently reports RoW |
| 19:38.08 | MactavishF | The best way is re-burn your rom... |
| 19:40.59 | NuttyBunny | haeffb: Reminded me of "Who is this General Failure and why is he reading my drive?" |
| 19:41.08 | Abyssul-Pre | There is a carrier option in Impostah but it doesnt over the attribute. |
| 19:41.15 | Abyssul-Pre | overwrite* |
| 19:47.00 | haeffb | ssh-add did the trick |
| 19:50.53 | PatrickC | NuttyBunny: you used http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/282230-ipkg-feed-generator-v1-0-a.html right? |
| 19:51.43 | NuttyBunny | yup, nice piece of software |
| 19:52.15 | PatrickC | MactavishF was having a problem with it |
| 19:52.33 | PatrickC | MactavishF: please pastebin.com the error :) |
| 19:53.28 | *** part/#webos-internals Abyssul-Pre (~wircer@184.255.253.56) |
| 19:54.04 | haeffb | woot. FIlezilla into the TP! |
| 19:54.42 | PatrickC | cool!! |
| 19:55.34 | MactavishF | I'm connecting to jason via twitter |
| 19:56.09 | PatrickC | bbl |
| 19:57.09 | PatrickC | MactavishF: NuttyBunny has used it, I have not. I use a private feed generator.. sorry :/ |
| 20:01.13 | MactavishF | wow, how did you made that? |
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| 20:04.34 | MactavishF | hi |
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| 20:08.46 | MactavishF | People come people go. People sitted here long ago |
| 20:13.38 | MactavishF | Anybody knows how to flush the dns? |
| 20:13.48 | MactavishF | I just wanna refresh it... |
| 20:14.27 | MactavishF | all right.......good night mates. since it's 4:14 am now in my timezone. |
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| 21:07.13 | NuttyBunny | I'm back.. |
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| 21:25.27 | PatrickC | no you arent.. :) |
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| 22:14.11 | rwhitby | PatrickC: "(and I believe only public) way to do it" <- every single thing about preware feeds is public, including the scripts to generate them |
| 22:14.27 | PatrickC | rwhitby: really? |
| 22:14.30 | PatrickC | never knew that |
| 22:15.16 | rwhitby | It's only one of the fundamental principles of WebOS Internals. |
| 22:15.44 | PatrickC | how come it didn't get as much attention as Jason's IPK generator? |
| 22:15.56 | rwhitby | because it doesn't have a windows gui |
| 22:16.22 | rwhitby | and it's author is not a writer for precentral. |
| 22:17.08 | PatrickC | ah |
| 22:18.31 | rwhitby | and also because we encourage folks to contribute to common public feeds, rather than setting up private proprietary feeds. |
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