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| 00:01.44 | millertech | uNiXpSyChO: I got a klog from my pre 2 |
| 00:01.59 | uNiXpSyChO | pastebin it |
| 00:02.40 | millertech | http://pastebin.com/1K0isMAW |
| 00:03.07 | millertech | apperently my pre2 is panic-y |
| 00:03.48 | millertech | this is the 2.1.0-75 |
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| 00:08.28 | uNiXpSyChO | it just dies with an arbitrary function location which isnt important... but i see it never sets up OPP5 voltage for SR. and i dont remember if it should set it up early or not. |
| 00:08.33 | kevets | so today i started getting errors on my yahoo mail account from my pre2 today |
| 00:08.37 | kevets | no idea why |
| 00:09.31 | millertech | so what i hear you saying is my pre2 is whimpy |
| 00:09.46 | uNiXpSyChO | somewhat |
| 00:10.12 | uNiXpSyChO | i'll have to build UK and try out a theory I have that might be the problem... it will take a while. |
| 00:10.40 | millertech | no problem, i can try new stuff whenever you need |
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| 00:17.52 | rwhitby | millertech: thanks for the klog - very informative |
| 00:18.28 | elpollodiablo1 | anyone know why xecutah does not show up in preware on the TP? |
| 00:19.38 | rwhitby | it sure does |
| 00:19.54 | rwhitby | if you have the testing feeds enabled |
| 00:20.10 | elpollodiablo1 | oh so it is in the test feed |
| 00:20.30 | elpollodiablo1 | that is definately easier then building it |
| 00:20.31 | rwhitby | yep |
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| 00:23.39 | millertech | rwhitby: is there any other info you need from me? |
| 00:25.32 | elpollodiablo1 | actually surprisingly it built easier then and quicker then setting up the testing feed. |
| 00:30.12 | rwhitby | millertech: nope, that's the best info we can get at the moment. next step is experimentation at our end. |
| 00:30.33 | rwhitby | millertech: we'll ask you to memboot some test kernels in the coming days |
| 00:30.44 | millertech | sounds good |
| 00:31.13 | kevets | is the uberkernel that i see posted today safe to try out on the pre2? 2.1.0 |
| 00:31.43 | rwhitby | it's an experimental kernel in the testing feed. it is new. some people are getting reboot loops. |
| 00:32.04 | rwhitby | I would recommend membooting it first |
| 00:32.44 | kevets | yeah i put mine back to the default kernel first, and after installing the UK it looks stuck during boot |
| 00:33.11 | kevets | configuring irq for gpio=176 |
| 00:34.26 | uNiXpSyChO | millertech: download this uImage and do a memboot using this image: http://unixpsycho.com/uImage-uk-0809-1 |
| 00:34.55 | millertech | uNiXpSyChO: that was fast |
| 00:35.35 | uNiXpSyChO | re-lights his cigar |
| 00:36.11 | millertech | loading..... |
| 00:36.26 | millertech | boot looping |
| 00:36.39 | kevets | ahh yeah looks like mine is stuck boot looping alright |
| 00:36.49 | uNiXpSyChO | hmm |
| 00:37.42 | millertech | well, its not boot looping, its just stuck |
| 00:37.55 | uNiXpSyChO | give a min to do fsck |
| 00:38.22 | rwhitby | millertech: what's the last thing on the console? |
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| 00:38.37 | millertech | there was not console |
| 00:38.40 | millertech | no |
| 00:38.48 | uNiXpSyChO | there wasnt the fbconsole ptch that i saw |
| 00:39.13 | millertech | its booting but probably into the normal boot image |
| 00:39.15 | rwhitby | uNiXpSyChO: UK-75 has a console/enable-console.patch which is your fbconsole patch without the logo. |
| 00:39.41 | uNiXpSyChO | heck... did i forget to git pull again... <clicking furiously....> |
| 00:39.43 | millertech | it started to load, flashed black, now its booting up |
| 00:40.16 | millertech | it should have a klog right? |
| 00:40.59 | millertech | yeah im back at the default palm kernel |
| 00:41.01 | uNiXpSyChO | did it crash or not? |
| 00:41.06 | uNiXpSyChO | i see |
| 00:41.15 | millertech | yes it crashed and then loaded palm kernel |
| 00:41.25 | uNiXpSyChO | let me rebuild... i was off a few versions |
| 00:45.10 | millertech | ready when you are |
| 00:47.45 | uNiXpSyChO | millertech: download again, same place. |
| 00:49.57 | millertech | It keeps saying packet dropped no match |
| 00:50.05 | uNiXpSyChO | thats good |
| 00:50.06 | millertech | hmmm |
| 00:50.09 | millertech | booting |
| 00:50.10 | millertech | :) |
| 00:50.18 | uNiXpSyChO | if it says that it's far into the boot |
| 00:50.32 | millertech | got the flashing hp logo |
| 00:50.53 | millertech | what changed? |
| 00:51.19 | uNiXpSyChO | disabled SR completely and went with VSEL |
| 00:51.40 | millertech | what is SR? |
| 00:51.48 | uNiXpSyChO | SmartReflex |
| 00:53.00 | millertech | it says its the palm default |
| 00:53.11 | uNiXpSyChO | UK boots in safe mode |
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| 00:53.18 | uNiXpSyChO | you can select 1.1gh |
| 00:53.41 | millertech | ok, got it |
| 01:04.41 | millertech | alright. im out. let me know if you need anything else. |
| 01:04.54 | uNiXpSyChO | cheers |
| 01:05.02 | millertech | thanks, take care |
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| 01:07.47 | AMR-1 | anyone know what exactly is packaged up in the tar file that gets created when you gen logs via ##LOGS#? |
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| 01:37.31 | rwhitby | uNiXpSyChO: so SR fails even when booting at 1GHz ? |
| 01:38.12 | uNiXpSyChO | it might be when SR does its voltage adjustments during boot for all freqs. |
| 01:38.41 | uNiXpSyChO | although the defconfig had OPP5 at boot speed |
| 01:39.05 | uNiXpSyChO | stock OPP5 is 1gig, in this case it's 1.1ghz |
| 01:43.28 | Muhb | Woo! |
| 01:43.45 | Muhb | FINALLY found a mirror of webos doctor v1.0.3 |
| 01:44.10 | Muhb | downloaded it at 12kBps... waited anxiously... and the md5sum checks out! :D |
| 01:44.40 | scoutcamper | Muhb, why the hell would you need one that old? |
| 01:46.24 | Muhb | debugging utilities are present in that version that were removed as of 1.0.4 |
| 01:46.48 | Muhb | I can copy them to the newer webos versions in my custom meta-fied doctors |
| 01:48.51 | Muhb | that, and I found a thread detailing the memory address of the MSL/SPC code, which is specific to pre minuses running 1.0.3, so if I downgrade to that, I can find or modify my MSL/SPC in memory |
| 01:51.01 | rwhitby | uNiXpSyChO: UK defconfig has OPP4 for boot speed |
| 01:51.14 | rwhitby | (or at least it is meant to) |
| 01:52.14 | uNiXpSyChO | hmm. i see CONFIG_OMAP3_VDD1_OPP5=y |
| 01:54.17 | rwhitby | uNiXpSyChO: overclocking/defconfig-standard-pre2.patch is meant to set it to OPP4 |
| 01:55.20 | uNiXpSyChO | yep. not sure why the .config ends up not having it |
| 01:55.32 | Muhb | scoutcamper: to be more specific, long story short, I foolishly installed an unofficial metadoctor I found floating around to see what it would do, and now the phone is stuck in usbnet mode, no terminal will connect to it, devmode doesn't work, and any time I attempt to change anything related to usbpass it asks for the MSL code... lol |
| 01:56.06 | scoutcamper | heh |
| 01:56.08 | Muhb | I could just redoctor, but I figure since I've come this far I might as well try and figure out the MSL, in case this ever happens again. I'm curious to see if this will work. |
| 01:56.35 | scoutcamper | mutters something about msl mod's being illegal for the most part |
| 01:56.48 | rwhitby | uNiXpSyChO: let me check my final config |
| 01:56.50 | Muhb | I don't need to modify it, I just need to see it. :) |
| 01:57.04 | scoutcamper | Muhb, call your carrier, they will give it to you |
| 01:57.12 | Muhb | But this is more FUN :B |
| 01:57.37 | scoutcamper | 1.0.3 =!= fun |
| 01:57.43 | Muhb | And the phone doesn't currently have service, it's deactivated. |
| 01:57.52 | scoutcamper | 1.0.3=pain |
| 01:57.54 | Muhb | And the one that DOES have service is disassembled all over my table at the moment. |
| 01:58.18 | rwhitby | Muhb: FYI, we prefer that IMEI or MEID hacking not be discussed in this channel, since 99.9999% of the time it's for some illegal purpose (you're one of the 0.0001%) and we don't want to have to explain to a jury of people who do not know what an IMEI/MEID is that what is happening in our channel is not illegal. |
| 01:58.31 | Muhb | Sorry. |
| 01:58.46 | rwhitby | no worries, just letting you know. |
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| 01:59.49 | rwhitby | uNiXpSyChO: my build says CONFIG_OMAP3_VDD1_OPP4=y in the .config |
| 02:00.07 | rwhitby | let me check what the autobuilder has, in case that is different |
| 02:00.48 | uNiXpSyChO | hmm. how does mine say that? it is changed in omap_sirloin_3630_defconfig but not .config |
| 02:00.55 | rwhitby | uNiXpSyChO: CONFIG_OMAP3_VDD1_OPP4=y on autobuilder too |
| 02:01.47 | uNiXpSyChO | hmm. |
| 02:01.53 | PatrickC | rwhitby: I am ready to take pare in the UK testing |
| 02:02.55 | PatrickC | part* |
| 02:03.25 | rwhitby | PatrickC: ok, what are your results of UK-75 ? |
| 02:03.56 | PatrickC | lemme make sure I am running that version. haven't checked preware in a few days |
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| 02:04.25 | PatrickC | I am running it. it seems fairly stable to me |
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| 02:04.46 | PatrickC | I run at the stock UK profile (Ondemand 1.1GHz) and it seems fine |
| 02:05.04 | uNiXpSyChO | did you ever have a problem with UK? |
| 02:05.20 | PatrickC | nope |
| 02:05.34 | PatrickC | I used to run F14, and never had a problem with that either |
| 02:05.41 | PatrickC | I must have a chuck norris pre2? |
| 02:05.49 | uNiXpSyChO | bah! you're not a good test subject! |
| 02:05.58 | Muhb | :P |
| 02:05.59 | PatrickC | why? lol |
| 02:06.08 | rwhitby | PatrickC: cause it works for you, just like it does for me. |
| 02:06.10 | uNiXpSyChO | we were looking for wimpy Pre2's |
| 02:06.24 | PatrickC | never had a problem with any kernel but SR71 on a Pre- |
| 02:06.40 | PatrickC | rwhitby: ok. I'll still lurk the forum for more info |
| 02:06.54 | PatrickC | what feed is UK in? didn't you say you were taking it out? |
| 02:07.07 | Muhb | Speaking of kernels, is there a way to modify the high/shutdown temperature threshold? |
| 02:07.14 | Muhb | I have yet to figure that out, if it's possible. |
| 02:07.58 | uNiXpSyChO | jumps off the Tobin Bridge |
| 02:10.22 | rwhitby | Muhb: have you pushed the blue question mark? |
| 02:11.03 | Muhb | I would if i had a working pre in front of me... both are incapacitated at the moment... I can be patient though :P |
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| 02:16.10 | Muhb | <PatrickC> what feed is UK in? didn't you say you were taking it out? <-- webos-kernels and webos-testing... but is UK moving somewhere else? |
| 02:16.35 | rwhitby | nothing is moving |
| 02:18.05 | PatrickC | rwhitby: "webosinternals: Too many folks not taking their alpha testing obligations seriously, so I've pulled the UberKernel/Pre2 from the testing feed." |
| 02:18.14 | PatrickC | I assumed that ment UK was moving |
| 02:18.40 | rwhitby | yep, then later I put it back |
| 02:18.45 | PatrickC | ah ok |
| 02:18.48 | cat-xeger | ... so I've gotten the replacement hardware |
| 02:18.55 | Muhb | hardware! :D |
| 02:18.57 | Muhb | fun |
| 02:18.58 | cat-xeger | ... I'm feeling cautiously optimistic |
| 02:19.08 | cat-xeger | Muhb - _replacement_ |
| 02:19.20 | cat-xeger | ... as in "Boy, this hardware can't really suck this much..." |
| 02:19.29 | cat-xeger | "... I'll see if getting it replaced helps" |
| 02:20.22 | Muhb | exactly - fun! :) |
| 02:20.26 | Muhb | you get to fix things! |
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| 02:20.29 | Muhb | ...or break them |
| 02:20.32 | Muhb | but hopefully fix! :p |
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| 02:21.14 | cat-xeger | Er... |
| 02:21.27 | cat-xeger | There's SFA I can do about fixing bad flash or memory, beyond exchanging |
| 02:21.45 | cat-xeger | ... and I _really_ don't consider it in any way a plus to have to go through the discovery process... |
| 02:23.27 | raster | oh come on |
| 02:23.39 | raster | dont tell me u dont have a hew spare emmc chips floating about |
| 02:23.46 | Muhb | ah, I see... |
| 02:23.57 | raster | and a solder baking oven isnt next to your desk? |
| 02:23.58 | raster | :) |
| 02:24.07 | rwhitby | BGA reflow FTW |
| 02:24.36 | raster | any REAL man can solder on a nice compact BGA in his sleep.. by hand. |
| 02:24.37 | raster | :) |
| 02:24.40 | Muhb | HEAT GUN! |
| 02:24.50 | Muhb | :D |
| 02:25.14 | scoutcamper | raster, i do alot of soldering, i dont use an oven to reflow EVER, i never reflow, just replace |
| 02:26.38 | raster | much more fun reflowing |
| 02:26.39 | raster | :) |
| 02:26.41 | scoutcamper | Anyone got any suggestions for a TP case/stand for under or at $20? |
| 02:27.07 | scoutcamper | raster, but much more risky, ive permanantly damaged chips reflowing, soldering is much safer |
| 02:27.27 | raster | wonders if people noticed the sarcasm stick |
| 02:28.02 | PatrickC | why do some fonts trigger a luna-restart flag, and others dont? |
| 02:28.55 | rwhitby | raster: you weren't genuine? |
| 02:29.25 | scoutcamper | was |
| 02:29.53 | raster | rwhitby: funny that. :) |
| 02:31.08 | raster | as pretty much everyone has some spare emmc chips floating about underneath the leavings of their bigmac and fries on the desk |
| 02:31.16 | raster | just look at my desk here |
| 02:31.34 | raster | littered with solder, chips, baking ovens... soldering irons... of course! |
| 02:31.43 | raster | it's all the rage |
| 02:31.45 | raster | everyone has it |
| 02:31.46 | raster | :) |
| 02:36.17 | Muhb | ...now I've done it |
| 02:36.31 | Muhb | lol |
| 02:36.39 | Muhb | blank language prompt, woo! |
| 02:38.53 | Muhb | ...AND it doesn't want to go into recovery mode |
| 02:41.22 | Muhb | there we go |
| 02:46.01 | PatrickC | anyone on the font question? |
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| 02:47.42 | zacky59 | heloo. |
| 02:48.29 | NuttyBunny | phew |
| 02:48.33 | PatrickC | ohno! |
| 02:48.36 | NuttyBunny | LOL |
| 02:48.43 | PatrickC | hides! |
| 02:49.11 | NuttyBunny | He found our secret lair!!! |
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| 02:57.12 | kirk | Hello. I am looking to install ubuntu chroot and am about to metadoctor. I am wondering what do you guys suggest for the size of the partition? |
| 02:57.30 | scoutcamper | kirk, what device? |
| 02:58.24 | kirk | installing on a Touchpad. 32gb model so i have some space. |
| 02:58.52 | PatrickC | I'm gonna do 8gb when mine arrives |
| 02:59.10 | scoutcamper | kirk, depends on what you are doing with the chroot, mine is 16gb, but 8 seems to be the average |
| 03:00.25 | kirk | scoutcamper. since you went with 16, may i ask what you are using it for? |
| 03:01.08 | scoutcamper | kirk, i have multiple WM's, and quick office since i use mine for document editing for college classes |
| 03:06.43 | kirk | scoutcamper, thank you for the insight. I will probably go with 8GB like most people. |
| 03:07.12 | scoutcamper | s/quick/open/ |
| 03:07.28 | Loudergood | still wrong |
| 03:07.35 | Loudergood | it's libreoffice now ;) |
| 03:07.36 | PatrickC | openoffice |
| 03:07.41 | PatrickC | oh lol |
| 03:08.01 | Loudergood | is actually in the middle of downloading the latest to my desktop |
| 03:09.04 | kirk | I assumes he meant LibreOffice |
| 03:09.40 | scoutcamper | whatever they call it now lol |
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| 03:12.10 | Muhb | wait |
| 03:12.15 | Muhb | they renamed openoffice libreoffice? |
| 03:12.34 | kirk | they had to rename when the forked |
| 03:12.52 | Muhb | oh it's a fork |
| 03:12.53 | Muhb | nevermind |
| 03:12.56 | Muhb | you scared me for a second there |
| 03:13.13 | PatrickC | lol |
| 03:14.13 | Muhb | "Also underway is the reduction of Java dependency, with the goal of minimizing security issues and improving application stability." <-- lol |
| 03:14.16 | Muhb | I'm sold |
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| 03:14.47 | kirk | indeed. libreoffice is the way to go |
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| 03:16.38 | Muhb | did they ever manage to get the compatibility (or lack thereof) with Excel VBA into a *slightly* less laughable state? |
| 03:17.22 | Muhb | last time I looked, the language they were substituting in place of a VBA-like macro language had mostly spanish keywords |
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| 04:58.25 | millertech_pre2 | any pre2 UK news? need to test anymore kernels? |
| 04:59.05 | rwhitby | just failing for more people on the forum |
| 04:59.38 | Robi_ | anyone figure out where the pin is stored? |
| 05:00.19 | Robi_ | i need to reset mine |
| 05:02.22 | Robi_ | just spent hours trying all combinations to change the pin ;[ |
| 05:03.00 | dwc- | it appears there's a system call to reset it |
| 05:03.30 | Robi_ | oh that'd be great |
| 05:03.51 | dwc- | setDevicePasscode to palm://com.palm.systemmanager |
| 05:05.05 | Robi_ | ok going to terminus |
| 05:05.57 | Robi_ | hm i forget what command to use |
| 05:06.10 | Robi_ | ha terminus just crashed |
| 05:06.52 | Robi_ | ok luna-send |
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| 05:10.07 | Robi_ | hm can I just do {"1234"} or {\"1234\"} ? |
| 05:13.15 | Robi_ | hm can't type { in terminus , sigh |
| 05:15.53 | rwhitby | use Xecutah |
| 05:16.04 | rwhitby | '{"foo":"bar"}' |
| 05:17.02 | Robi_ | what does in bar |
| 05:17.05 | Robi_ | er goes |
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| 05:23.09 | Robi_ | fo and bar for that matter |
| 05:27.42 | PatrickC | rwhitby: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17265 |
| 05:27.48 | PatrickC | not sure if you saw this yet |
| 05:32.54 | Robi_ | Xecutah doesn't help |
| 05:33.07 | Robi_ | but I can copy/paste perhaps |
| 05:33.10 | PatrickC | Robi_: what you doin? |
| 05:33.59 | Robi_ | trying to run a luna-send command from 2.1 device |
| 05:34.12 | PatrickC | novaterm on PC/Mac? |
| 05:34.26 | Robi_ | no cable atm |
| 05:34.32 | PatrickC | ah |
| 05:34.39 | PatrickC | I'm of no help then |
| 05:34.42 | PatrickC | XTerm? |
| 05:35.02 | Robi_ | just did that with xecutah, can't figure out how to paste or type { } |
| 05:35.18 | rwhitby | are you using the latest xserver? |
| 05:35.21 | PatrickC | oh. the special chars.. I forget too.. |
| 05:36.02 | Robi_ | yah ;[ can't even paste in terminus |
| 05:36.08 | PatrickC | rwhitby: do you think sprint pre2's will be affected by the new profile thing? |
| 05:36.11 | rwhitby | latest version of xserver/xecutah can do { } |
| 05:36.23 | PatrickC | nvm |
| 05:36.28 | PatrickC | read latest tweet |
| 05:37.18 | Robi_ | i am using 0.7.3/0.8.1 |
| 05:37.24 | Robi_ | which is latest no? |
| 05:39.19 | Robi_ | ah figured out {} |
| 05:39.28 | Robi_ | does paste work? |
| 05:39.33 | Robi_ | rwhitby: ^? |
| 05:40.18 | rwhitby | dunno about paste |
| 05:40.57 | PatrickC | I've never gotten it to work with meta+v |
| 05:41.11 | PatrickC | but idk about other way(s) |
| 05:41.35 | Robi_ | meta = ctrl heh |
| 05:44.25 | Robi_ | don't do meta + d |
| 05:45.12 | PatrickC | meta+d? |
| 05:45.26 | Robi_ | kills xterm |
| 05:45.39 | PatrickC | oh lol |
| 05:45.45 | PatrickC | d = die :) |
| 05:45.50 | PatrickC | is guessing |
| 05:45.54 | Robi_ | what is paste |
| 05:46.12 | PatrickC | should be meta+v |
| 05:46.24 | Robi_ | no that's ctrl-v in xterm |
| 05:46.25 | PatrickC | but I don't think it works in pdk apps |
| 05:46.41 | Robi_ | meta=ctrl, so ctrl-d |
| 05:46.56 | Robi_ | exit |
| 05:50.28 | Robi_ | dwc-: can u enlighten me on the "foo:bar" parameters? |
| 05:52.38 | dwc- | the palm application for the screen lock settings is com.palm.app.screenlock |
| 05:54.57 | Robi_ | yeah? |
| 05:55.41 | Robi_ | sending {"1111":"true"} i get { "returnValue": true } |
| 05:59.46 | Robi_ | dwc-: what does screenlock have to do with systemmanager ? |
| 06:01.41 | dwc- | one calls methods provided by the ohter |
| 06:02.56 | Robi_ | ok you're being mysterious :) i need a bit more clarity please |
| 06:08.54 | dwc- | trying not to hand out the skeleton key |
| 06:09.26 | Robi_ | nod |
| 06:10.12 | dwc- | there's a method call in one of the pieces of that app to the service in question |
| 06:10.22 | dwc- | that'll tell you what parameters you need to set |
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| 06:20.18 | PatrickC | mpingu: long time no see |
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| 06:31.46 | PatrickC | hey DieterBohn |
| 06:32.01 | DieterBohn | Howdy |
| 06:32.43 | Jack87-wIRC | long lost DieterBohn |
| 06:32.44 | Jack87-wIRC | are you still sproting webos? |
| 06:33.00 | DieterBohn | Got a TouchPad :) |
| 06:33.34 | PatrickC | cool :) |
| 06:33.40 | Jack87-wIRC | Nice! |
| 06:33.43 | Jack87-wIRC | with veer? |
| 06:33.57 | PatrickC | its a pre3 silly |
| 06:34.26 | Jack87-wIRC | hehe DieterBohn has inside connections |
| 06:34.28 | PatrickC | the Dieter with a veer? he has the pre4 already probably |
| 06:35.28 | Jack87-wIRC | *cough cough Adora cough* |
| 06:35.45 | PatrickC | was about to say that |
| 06:36.36 | PatrickC | me and Adora have 2 friends in common on FB! :P |
| 06:36.58 | Adora | PatrickC: and one of them is your mom |
| 06:37.04 | PatrickC | lol |
| 06:37.19 | PatrickC | yeah.. my mom is not into technology at all lol |
| 06:38.59 | PatrickC | DieterBohn: how's 'the verge' coming? |
| 06:39.13 | Jack87-wIRC | I would die if my mom was on facebook (she would see my picture without a helmet and rip my head off) |
| 06:39.24 | mpingu | hey PatrickC :P |
| 06:39.29 | mpingu | just read somestrange stuff |
| 06:39.29 | mpingu | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20089381-17/apple-sued-over-speedy-mac-os-x-startup/ |
| 06:39.30 | PatrickC | Jack87: lol |
| 06:39.39 | PatrickC | mpingu: haha |
| 06:39.42 | PatrickC | nice tag |
| 06:39.49 | PatrickC | want to read that |
| 06:40.34 | Jack87-wIRC | intresting |
| 06:41.53 | mpingu | that kind of patents sucks |
| 06:42.27 | PatrickC | is off to bed |
| 06:42.30 | PatrickC | night all |
| 06:44.36 | Jack87-wIRC | mpingu: that's the weirdest thing ever. I just don't get it |
| 06:46.02 | mpingu | its sick or ? |
| 06:47.25 | Jack87 | its horrible makes no sense to patten such a thing |
| 06:47.36 | Jack87 | to my knowledge all computers use that form of booting |
| 06:54.58 | kirk | they look to be patent trolls |
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| 07:48.24 | nightburn | rwhitby: glad you're on the case https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=17270 - concerned at all? |
| 07:52.43 | stbuehler | and some people still believe palm will provide webOS updates for older devices to support enyo |
| 07:53.20 | nightburn | yea, that one i don't believe at all. |
| 07:53.34 | stbuehler | which is why i didn't even bother to learn enyo |
| 07:54.32 | ka6sox | ouch |
| 07:54.41 | stbuehler | i think their strategy is pretty clear |
| 07:55.06 | stbuehler | try to sell as many new devices as possible, don't care about the users of old devices |
| 07:55.12 | rwhitby | stbuehler: I'm writing a new app now, in Mojo. |
| 07:55.36 | stbuehler | :) |
| 08:04.07 | nightburn | stbuehler: "try to sell as many new devices as possible" yet they're certainly twiddling there thumbs releasing said "new devices" |
| 08:04.29 | rwhitby | nightburn: no-one said it was an effective strategy ;) |
| 08:04.40 | stbuehler | hehe :D |
| 08:05.20 | stbuehler | rwhitby: how can i find out the "version" my device identifies itself with? |
| 08:05.34 | nightburn | trying really hard to not let any of this bother me, it's just a phone. it's just a phone. it's just a phone. |
| 08:06.17 | stbuehler | user-agent of my browser shows webOS/2.1.0 .. Pre/1.0 |
| 08:07.17 | rwhitby | stbuehler: Impostah Device Profile scene |
| 08:08.14 | nightburn | Didn't some of the early meta dr scripts report older OS versions? maybe that's all they're cracking down on ? |
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| 08:08.43 | rwhitby | https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=86757#p86757 |
| 08:14.55 | nightburn | rwhitby: if I'm reading your post correctly, it seems this change does not impact the Pre2. Although, I guess we don't know anything for sure yet. |
| 08:15.34 | stbuehler | i see only the softwareBuildBranch (HP webOS 2.1.0) - no other webos versions. still an old device ofc :) |
| 08:15.39 | rwhitby | The Pre 2 runs 2.x now, before and forever more. I can't see how it could be affected by this change. |
| 08:16.07 | dwc- | unless they get nitpicky with vzw pre2's with 2.1? |
| 08:16.39 | rwhitby | stbuehler: carrierROM and dmSets are the important ones |
| 08:17.56 | rwhitby | dwc-: if so, you just masquerade as 2.0.1 |
| 08:18.07 | stbuehler | k. Nova-WR-Castle-285 and {"sets":"312","674"} |
| 08:18.11 | nightburn | So they're not comparing carrier data . I guess that's what I'd be most worried about . "No you can't run Pre2 on sprint" |
| 08:18.36 | dwc- | oh right, they only said 1.x vs 2.x |
| 08:18.42 | rwhitby | nightburn: no-one knows what they are doing. especially not anyone at HP/Palm that I've spoken to. |
| 08:19.31 | nightburn | uggh, that statement is more concerning than anything. sounds like they're just running around with their head up their ass. |
| 08:19.34 | rwhitby | changes to the profile server and app catalog and app submission portal are indistinguishable from random perturbations in my experience |
| 08:20.13 | rwhitby | this is the first one which has actually been announced with any sort of specificity of what the change is |
| 08:20.36 | nightburn | well i guess that's an improvement then? heh |
| 08:20.41 | stbuehler | ^^ |
| 08:22.17 | dwc- | I wonder if they've made some sort of enhancements that can't be supported by 1.x hardware |
| 08:22.39 | stbuehler | sure :D |
| 08:22.53 | dwc- | huh. no, that doesn't make sense with the "also identifies as..." |
| 08:23.46 | dwc- | oh well... nothing I need to worry about for me |
| 08:24.34 | stbuehler | which services would one loose btw? backup/restore of some core settings,accounts,messages? what about app catalog |
| 08:25.08 | nightburn | I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds. Once this news hits the frontpage of precentral....... the comments will just be more HP hate. |
| 08:25.17 | rwhitby | if you logged out of the device (something which they can force on you), you would not be able to access app catalog again |
| 08:25.56 | rwhitby | I personally am assuming it's something to do with DRM or security built into 2.x which they don't want people to be able to circumvent by flashing back to 1.x |
| 08:26.00 | stbuehler | so they basically want us to replace the app catalog completely |
| 08:26.48 | rwhitby | Seriously, I can't see a meta-doctor scenario that the change as they have stated it actually applies to. |
| 08:30.55 | rwhitby | I just took a Sprint Pre- from 2.1.0 to 1.4.5.1 without incident. |
| 08:31.28 | nightburn | maybe their changes haven't actually taken effect yet? |
| 08:31.36 | rwhitby | that's quite possible. |
| 08:32.05 | rwhitby | although announcing a change to this stuff ahead of time is unheard of before ... |
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| 08:44.18 | xbonesx | Was wondering if anyone has heard of a palm pre running on the cdma portion of boosts network? |
| 08:45.08 | ka6sox | boost has a CDMA portion? I only know about the iden portion. |
| 08:51.01 | xbonesx | ka6sox: sure do, if you go to their website they have an android and couple of blackberries that run of a cdma network. I also own the 8530 for boost, but i want to get my pre on it instead, blackberries nice and all but im a die hard webos fan |
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| 08:52.10 | ka6sox | okay so that would be sprint's CDMA network then? as boost rides Nextel's iden. |
| 08:52.51 | xbonesx | ka6sox: makes sense |
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| 08:57.33 | nightburn | Something tells me boost won't allow your Pre because your Pre's ESN is not in their database. |
| 08:58.25 | nightburn | So unless you can figure out how to change your ESN (which is illegal) . Then, most likely, you're SOL. |
| 08:58.40 | xbonesx | ive read of people getting there other phones from sprint on boost accounts |
| 08:58.52 | xbonesx | just nothing specific to palm pre yet still researching but no luck |
| 08:59.25 | nightburn | Just call them and give your Pre's IMEI. |
| 08:59.32 | ka6sox | gl |
| 09:00.45 | xbonesx | the other problem is i currently have the blackberries plan, 60 a month one and i think the other people who have successfully switched their sprint phones to boost are using the 50 a month plans |
| 09:01.00 | xbonesx | is boost a 24 customers service |
| 09:01.06 | xbonesx | hour* |
| 09:01.20 | nightburn | no idea, i dont' think anyone here actually has boost. |
| 09:01.49 | xbonesx | i wouldnt imagine so considering pres are only on sprint, verizon and att |
| 09:01.59 | xbonesx | lol :) |
| 09:03.52 | nightburn | if you get it to work , please let me know ! lol |
| 09:10.10 | xbonesx | im still researching but nothing yet, i dont imagine too many people have tried to do this so it might be hard to find someone who has |
| 09:10.31 | xbonesx | http://forums.precentral.net/cdma-north-america/224473-getting-my-pre-activated-boost-mobile.html |
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| 09:25.34 | xbonesx | ka6sox: you still on? |
| 09:25.46 | xbonesx | nightbur: or you? |
| 09:29.40 | xbonesx | is the meid dec number the esn number? |
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| 13:50.59 | preoccupied | hello everyone |
| 13:51.20 | preoccupied | does anyone know how to launch a palm profile backup from the command line? |
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| 14:10.16 | dwc- | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Luna_Send |
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| 14:10.22 | dwc- | ahh, too slow |
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| 14:11.56 | PatrickC | wish I would have known that a while ago |
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| 15:03.28 | summatusmentis | my phone is super angry |
| 15:12.43 | summatusmentis | it now seems to reboot at will |
| 15:12.54 | summatusmentis | and it hates being plugged in |
| 15:15.42 | halfhalo-work | lol |
| 15:17.43 | summatusmentis | it's funny, except that I think it means my phone is dying |
| 15:18.09 | halfhalo-work | or your phone just needs to take a nap |
| 15:18.23 | summatusmentis | no, this has been going on for 2 days |
| 15:18.58 | summatusmentis | it was mostly ok yesterday after I dropped the voltage, but I plugged it in, and then it shut down again in the middle of the night |
| 15:19.54 | summatusmentis | now I removed UK, and immediately got a TMC error |
| 15:19.58 | summatusmentis | uuugh |
| 15:21.35 | scoutcamper | summatusmentis, webos doctor needs to visit your phone |
| 15:21.59 | summatusmentis | scoutcamper: will doctoring fix it? |
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| 15:23.10 | scoutcamper | summatusmentis, unknown, but it sounds like a software problem, and the doctor fixes those |
| 15:23.36 | summatusmentis | scoutcamper: it _could_ be a hardware issue, this is a pre- cobbled together from 2 pre-s |
| 15:24.01 | summatusmentis | goes to get a saved package list out of preware |
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| 15:24.21 | scoutcamper | summatusmentis, rule out software, then look at hardware |
| 15:24.28 | summatusmentis | yeah, seems reasonable |
| 15:24.34 | summatusmentis | I really hope it's just a doctor issue |
| 15:28.58 | summatusmentis | am I missing something crucial? Is there a step I need to take to save a package list? |
| 15:29.04 | summatusmentis | in preware? |
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| 15:46.00 | halfhalo-work | build my precious.... build..... |
| 15:46.40 | summatusmentis | this metadoctor build is just sitting |
| 15:46.41 | summatusmentis | guh |
| 15:48.24 | halfhalo-work | ITS ALIVE!!!!! |
| 15:50.04 | halfhalo-work | well... it WAS alive. |
| 15:53.50 | halfhalo-work | note to self: TP does not like 1.9GHz |
| 15:53.58 | summatusmentis | lolol |
| 15:54.12 | summatusmentis | there, now the doctor is running |
| 15:55.47 | halfhalo-work | it just.... locks up when trying to reach it. makes me sad. |
| 15:55.56 | PatrickC | halfhalo: how'd you get that fast? I thought the only kernel was 1.5GHz? |
| 15:57.03 | halfhalo-work | i did it by learning how the kernel OC'ing worked, then making my own, then looking around google for stuff on voltage increases, then making my own kernel with those. |
| 15:57.15 | PatrickC | oh cool |
| 15:57.30 | Tibfib | halfhalo-work: lies, you can't find information on google. |
| 15:57.38 | PatrickC | I thought uNiXpSyChO had it up to 1.998 (or close to it) |
| 15:57.47 | PatrickC | wait, what's google? |
| 15:57.59 | PatrickC | is that like AOL? |
| 15:58.10 | PatrickC | s/AOL/oil/ |
| 15:58.11 | PatrickC | :P |
| 15:58.17 | halfhalo-work | YUNOLIKE 0x24 SETTING TP?!? |
| 16:02.43 | halfhalo-work | ok, time to try this with more fancy options |
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| 16:09.26 | summatusmentis | crap, I just realized that re-doctoring my device might not let me login to palm profile |
| 16:09.30 | summatusmentis | given the security changes |
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| 17:08.40 | manuel79 | hello guys |
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| 17:09.19 | manuelwolf | hello |
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| 17:27.46 | kirk | I am looking for suggestions on a WM for ubuntu chroot. Are any better than others for touch interface? |
| 17:28.40 | manuel79 | no way to login to Impostah using another profile ?? |
| 17:28.45 | Loudergood_ | I like e17 |
| 17:28.57 | Loudergood_ | icewm seems to be popular |
| 17:30.19 | manuel79 | guys , there is a way to login another profile using Impostah ? |
| 17:30.37 | kirk | thanks. i will look into those two |
| 17:35.02 | kirk | now the newb question. what command do I run to start it up |
| 17:38.10 | kirk | nevermind i got it |
| 17:40.00 | kirk | I installed e17, and am setting it up. anybody suggest a profile to use for a touchpad |
| 17:51.43 | Loudergood_ | I used it on my phone, so I used the embeded ui myself |
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| 18:58.41 | ajay_ | howdy |
| 18:59.03 | flare576_work | o/ |
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| 19:00.25 | ajay_ | what are the rules on updating the wiki? I wanted to take out the memboot section where it tells you to copy the image to the novacom folder.. (at least on linux I know that's totally unnec.. windoze anyone?) |
| 19:01.51 | flare576_work | I believe that the policy is that if you see something inaccurate and can fix it, you should. It would be good to verify on all platforms or at least label your information as platform specific |
| 19:02.59 | flare576_work | <~ Not a member of webosinternals, just a frequent lurker :) |
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| 19:07.13 | ajay_ | flare576_work: yeah I'm putting it into the discussion page but feel like it should change, at least on linux.. and hopefully on windows too if poss, bc not everyone is going to have root access |
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| 19:18.12 | uNiXpSyChO | smells bullshit |
| 19:18.36 | halfhalo-work | dunDUNDUN!!!!!! |
| 19:27.51 | scoutcamper | halfhalo-work, where is your 2ghz kernel? |
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| 19:29.41 | Bajan | Hello new here can someone tell me: Is Java installed on the Touchpad? |
| 19:31.25 | flare576_work | Baja, for what purpose? |
| 19:31.35 | flare576_work | are you trying to get applets to work, a native java application? |
| 19:31.44 | Bajan | to install preware |
| 19:31.57 | flare576_work | you'll need a PC with Java |
| 19:32.07 | Bajan | ok |
| 19:32.26 | flare576_work | which will then be able to run WebOS Quick Install (or a MetaDoctor solution) |
| 19:32.42 | Bajan | ah gotcha |
| 19:32.46 | flare576_work | Have you purchased the Homebrew guide from the HP app store? |
| 19:32.47 | kirk | you need to have your touchpad in developer mode as well |
| 19:32.51 | flare576_work | really good resource. |
| 19:33.05 | Bajan | no not yet |
| 19:33.15 | Bajan | will do then |
| 19:34.04 | flare576_work | that'd be pretty hardcore: a Touchpad running Linux with USB host drivers that can root a Pre/Pixi/Veer... |
| 19:34.09 | kirk | it's a good jumpstart guide to homebrew and only 99 cents. also helps out the homebrew developers to keep doing the amazing things they do |
| 19:34.36 | Bajan | sold :) |
| 19:34.44 | Bajan | good price |
| 19:34.57 | Bajan | this is a really sweet tab |
| 19:35.38 | flare576_work | did you get a Bluetooth keyboard? Makes it incredible |
| 19:36.18 | Bajan | my next purchase |
| 19:36.44 | kevets | nice to see people getting excited about the touchpad |
| 19:36.50 | kevets | and in turn, webos |
| 19:36.58 | Bajan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.03 | flare576_work | agreed |
| 19:37.08 | kirk | yeah i need a keyboard too. |
| 19:37.36 | flare576_work | I don't know if other keyboards can emulate the buttons, but some of the keys on the HP one are really handy |
| 19:38.20 | flare576_work | (volume, brightness, music controls, "card view", search, and "alerts" are the unit-specific ones) |
| 19:38.58 | kirk | yeah i really want it for the card view and search ones |
| 19:40.02 | kirk | arrow keys "shuffle" through the cards correct? |
| 19:40.19 | oil | i don think so |
| 19:40.24 | flare576_work | no :( |
| 19:40.30 | kirk | aww man |
| 19:40.37 | oil | 3.0.3? |
| 19:40.39 | oil | lol |
| 19:40.41 | kirk | haha |
| 19:41.03 | flare576_work | I think it's patchable... I really need to find time to try it because, theoretically, you should be able to capture the arrow key events and then send left/right swipe actions. |
| 19:41.05 | kirk | with how big the left are right arrows are you would think is were so |
| 19:41.45 | flare576_work | yeah, I was pretty disappointed. also, you'd think that Card+tab would do the same thing, but alas. |
| 19:41.51 | oil | is getting a kb, hopes it gets fixed :) |
| 19:50.04 | Bajan | the HP touchpad keyboard is grogeous I wouldn't get any other |
| 19:50.16 | Bajan | gorgeous* |
| 19:50.19 | flare576_work | It is pretty. |
| 19:50.56 | flare576_work | I'm still trying to figure out a good way of carrying both the TP and keyboard... I have a case arriving soon, but I'm not sure the keyboard will fit in it alongside the TP. |
| 19:51.17 | Bajan | case and keyboard is my next outlay glad I caught the sale last weekend |
| 19:52.06 | Bajan | what I would like is an integrated keyboard and case like the Zagg brand they have for iPads |
| 19:52.42 | Bajan | it is brushed aluminum bright would be great adonized black for Touchpads |
| 19:53.30 | flare576_work | I've seen those, and have to agree. I got a 3rd party case off Amazon, so I'll report in how well it does touting around both. |
| 19:54.27 | Bajan | nice I may become a fixture here lol |
| 19:54.40 | Bajan | I started with a Viewsonic Gtab |
| 19:54.52 | Bajan | it was a little exciting beast |
| 19:55.37 | kevets | is that an android tab? |
| 19:55.46 | Bajan | yes |
| 19:56.11 | Bajan | they immediately got adopted by XDA-dev |
| 19:56.46 | Bajan | and custom ROMs came out |
| 19:57.04 | flare576_work | Just FYI, though; if you want to talk dev stuff, this is the place to do it, if you want to talk general stuff about products, #webos might be a more appropriate spot. When this room gets buzzing with rod and puff and folks talking about their work, it m |
| 19:57.04 | flare576_work | ight be considerate to hop over there :) |
| 19:57.14 | Bajan | but I had my eye on HP since they announced |
| 19:57.32 | kevets | good idea |
| 19:57.35 | flare576_work | huh, I was unaware of a character limit. |
| 19:57.40 | Bajan | thanks |
| 19:58.23 | flare576_work | np, you're very welcome here, but some folks just don't realize there's 2 rooms :D |
| 20:00.35 | flare576_work | also wants to patch in Card+tab as "alt-tab" .. |
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| 20:20.57 | scoutcamper | just preordered http://amzn.to/oI4ABR for is TP |
| 20:21.02 | scoutcamper | s/is/his/ |
| 20:21.16 | scoutcamper | ~botkill |
| 20:34.05 | halfhalo-work | lol |
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| 20:53.45 | dwc- | thinks that is a way to tell what you said last |
| 20:53.50 | dwc- | s/a/a/ |
| 20:53.58 | dwc- | darn, guess not |
| 20:58.20 | PatrickC | huh? lol |
| 20:59.11 | flare576_work | you trying to destroy the system with recursion? |
| 20:59.24 | flare576_work | s/recursion/logic/ |
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| 21:35.06 | dwc- | s/darn, guess not/guess it only remembers so far back/ |
| 21:35.30 | dwc- | s/it/test/ |
| 21:35.41 | dwc- | or maybe it's just ignoring me |
| 21:44.25 | kevets | so the default kernel seems to be stuck in a boot loop on my pre 2. not quite sure how to proceed. |
| 21:44.37 | kevets | memboot successfully gets it to boot |
| 21:45.03 | kevets | but firing up preware and reinstalling the default kernel just results in the same |
| 21:50.46 | kevets | might be redoctoring tonight... sheesh |
| 21:53.04 | kirk | gonna run save restore first? |
| 21:53.27 | kevets | how is that done? |
| 21:53.53 | kirk | it's a homebrew app to save app data. it's in preware |
| 21:54.01 | PatrickC | infobot: ignore dwc- |
| 21:54.01 | infobot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, dwc-!" |
| 21:54.05 | kevets | i'm not super concerned about app data or nothin |
| 21:54.35 | Loudergood | it's just handy for not typing in 30 character passwords all over again |
| 21:54.36 | kirk | oh okay. just trying to make the doctoring less of a hit |
| 21:54.44 | kevets | heh for sure |
| 21:54.45 | PatrickC | wait, infobot is a 'her'? |
| 21:55.46 | kevets | i just don't get how it wont allow me to install one of the other test kernels to get it booting, when its definitely running the stock kernel. |
| 21:56.22 | dwc- | ~infobot |
| 21:56.28 | dwc- | ~infobot? |
| 21:56.36 | dwc- | can't remember how these things work |
| 21:56.41 | dwc- | infobot: infobot? |
| 21:56.47 | PatrickC | infobot: dwc- |
| 21:56.56 | PatrickC | dwc-: you can pm her |
| 21:57.13 | dwc- | yea, but I thought I remembered |
| 21:57.20 | PatrickC | ~dwc- |
| 21:57.20 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, dwc- is awesome |
| 21:57.22 | halfhalo-work | _her_? |
| 21:58.01 | PatrickC | "infobot sticks *her* fingers in *her* ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, dwc-!"" |
| 21:58.21 | dwc- | ~infobot |
| 21:58.22 | infobot | i heard infobot is a her! |
| 21:59.31 | PatrickC | ~halfhalo |
| 21:59.31 | infobot | from memory, halfhalo is a web programmer specializing in ruby on rails and node.js server side applications, and also is dabbling in sysadmin work as well. He is also insane in the membrane, and drives way to fast on the streets. four-eights-halo. an angry molusk, or also an angry molusk |
| 21:59.33 | PatrickC | :P |
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| 22:15.02 | flare576_work | hmmm... |
| 22:15.15 | flare576_work | ~santa |
| 22:15.15 | infobot | [santa] bringing us all gifts |
| 22:15.22 | flare576_work | \o/ yay! |
| 22:18.13 | scoutcamper | mentions that infobot does work via PM and thus doesnt have to clutter the main channel |
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| 23:26.37 | xbonesx | Anyone heard of a palm pre successfully being transfered to a boost account? |
| 23:26.46 | benklop | how would I go about compiling the "fuse" kernel module for my touchpad? |
| 23:26.52 | benklop | or my phone for that matter |
| 23:27.39 | benklop | -or any kernel module.. i'm assuming that webos kernels are crosscompiled, not compiled on device.. |
| 23:28.03 | benklop | basically I want to use this: http://code.google.com/p/boxfs/ on my phone.. |
| 23:28.31 | benklop | it makes box.net into a filesystem, so it could be mounted at /media/internal/box.net for instance |
| 23:28.50 | scoutcamper | benklop, the source for "uberkernel" is avaliable at git.webos-internals.org |
| 23:29.00 | benklop | ok |
| 23:30.55 | scoutcamper | benklop, http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/tree/testing-kernels/uber-kernel-touchpad |
| 23:31.29 | benklop | thanks |
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| 23:47.55 | rwhitby | benklop: fuse is there already, it's used for cryptofs |
| 23:49.52 | creationix | fuse ftw |
| 23:51.32 | rwhitby | i wonder how it handles intermittent connectivity and hand-over from wifi to 3g and back |
| 23:51.56 | rwhitby | that's the true measure of a mobile network filesystem solution |
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