| 00:03.36 | NuttyBunny | siestacat: you can doctor, memboot, edit files, reboot :-) But meta doctor is the easiest way! |
| 00:04.43 | siestacat | meta-doctor allows me to bypass activation NuttyBunny? |
| 00:05.19 | NuttyBunny | yep, it has an option for that |
| 00:06.26 | siestacat | great |
| 00:06.45 | siestacat | My boss listens to NPR, and his computer is junk (his wife hates it playing out loud) |
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| 00:07.04 | siestacat | so I need a wifi only device for some hard core internet readio |
| 00:07.19 | siestacat | NuttyBunny : How to fix scratched pixi screeen? |
| 00:07.22 | siestacat | it's really ugly |
| 00:07.53 | dwc- | buy a broken innards pixi and swap? |
| 00:08.00 | Abyssul-TP_ | Found some code that indicates an app blacklist for the app launcher screen on TP :-P |
| 00:08.17 | Abyssul-TP_ | siestacat: get a new pixi? |
| 00:08.22 | siestacat | ew |
| 00:08.24 | siestacat | why |
| 00:08.32 | siestacat | This one is already activated and awesome |
| 00:08.38 | siestacat | I've got one annoying scratch |
| 00:08.41 | NuttyBunny | siestacat: go back in time and put a screen protector? ;-) |
| 00:08.55 | siestacat | I don't use screen protectors on gorilla glass |
| 00:09.06 | siestacat | besides, the pixi was $40 so I don't really care |
| 00:09.15 | siestacat | Couldn't see putting a $10 screen protector on |
| 00:09.18 | Abyssul-TP_ | Deal with it? |
| 00:09.23 | NuttyBunny | i've read that invishield fixes some scratches |
| 00:09.31 | NuttyBunny | zaggs |
| 00:09.44 | Abyssul-TP_ | Pixi wasnt gorilla glass? |
| 00:10.02 | NuttyBunny | nope |
| 00:10.12 | NuttyBunny | plastic, cheap |
| 00:10.29 | Abyssul-TP_ | Thought so |
| 00:10.44 | NuttyBunny | takes his out. plastic, soft, cheap... ugly :-) |
| 00:11.34 | Abyssul-TP_ | Anyone interested in Pre- parts or Pre2 Verizon comm board? |
| 00:14.54 | dwc- | you can make yourself a verizon pre-! |
| 00:16.25 | Abyssul-TP_ | Not worth it. Id get more worth from hitting it with a golf club or tricking a friend into breaking "my phone" |
| 00:18.37 | dwc- | anyone on AT&T around? |
| 00:21.55 | NuttyBunny | I need an AT&T comm board ;-) |
| 00:22.37 | dwc- | cancel my question, got an answer from someone |
| 00:24.13 | siestacat | where can I buy a new pixi screen? |
| 00:24.21 | siestacat | build myself a pre- |
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| 00:33.51 | siestacat | ? |
| 00:36.26 | Abyssul-TP_ | Sold my pre2 att board |
| 00:39.32 | oil | lol for how much? |
| 00:40.00 | dwc- | rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/HejruMMY ... unfortunately, I don't have any devices with which to test... |
| 00:49.13 | siestacat | anyone have cmda pre 2's they'd let go for $40? |
| 00:49.48 | jedivulcan | I bought a few a few Veers today for the family and myself. |
| 00:50.29 | jedivulcan | I'm kind of excited. I've been using iOS since it came out... This is just refreshing to have something else to use. |
| 00:53.16 | siestacat | jedivulcan : where from and for how much? |
| 00:54.27 | siestacat | i need a replacement cdma phone |
| 00:54.34 | siestacat | no contract |
| 00:54.36 | siestacat | for page plus |
| 00:54.45 | jedivulcan | siestacat: I bought from Amazon at about 75 a piece. They're AT&T GSM phones though. |
| 00:54.52 | siestacat | bah |
| 00:54.59 | siestacat | where can I get a cheap pre2? |
| 00:55.10 | Abyssul-TP_ | Just 12 bucks. |
| 00:55.21 | jedivulcan | No idea. I don't think I've ever owned a CDMA phone. |
| 00:55.49 | siestacat | Abyssul-TP_? |
| 00:55.59 | Abyssul-TP_ | Talking to oil |
| 00:56.05 | jedivulcan | I bought a Veer as a change up for my iPhone 4. My mother and sister sorely needed some sort of phone. They text a lot. |
| 00:56.45 | Abyssul-TP_ | (obligatory hate on VK) |
| 00:56.52 | siestacat | well, I'm on pageplus |
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| 02:06.00 | rwhitby | dwc-: why do we want to use an AT&T override for all Impostah activations in the US ? |
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| 04:26.21 | dwc- | rwhitby: it seems like skype isn't available for other US carriers |
| 04:27.09 | dwc- | I haven't been able to determine any other sorts of apps that are *not* available for AT&T ... should it be a separate override then? |
| 04:31.23 | dwc- | is there a reason not to force it to at&t? |
| 04:35.18 | rwhitby | there may be apps that AT&T excludes from the catalog - e.g. mobile hotspot |
| 04:35.57 | dwc- | oh... the only mobile hotspot I know of is the one that ships with the phone |
| 04:36.29 | rwhitby | yes, with the Pre 3. Note that Impostah is used for other devices too. |
| 04:36.43 | dwc- | yes, I know... I just didn't know of any others... all I have is a pre2 |
| 04:37.32 | Xuzz | I couldn't get the pre3 one to work on ATT |
| 04:38.43 | dwc- | so how did you pick what carriers to use for the non-us countries? |
| 04:39.13 | dwc- | do any of them have special apps or restrictions? |
| 04:40.04 | rwhitby | Palm is too US-centric to worry about anything outside the US. |
| 04:40.47 | rwhitby | as far as we know, there are no such distinctions within the our regions. |
| 04:41.02 | rwhitby | (there are restriction differences between regions, but not within them) |
| 04:41.21 | Xuzz | rwhitby: That applies to many US companies. :p |
| 04:41.39 | rwhitby | but there definitely are differences between AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and "Palm" catalogs in the US. |
| 04:42.16 | dwc- | is there's a list of known differences somewhere? |
| 04:42.30 | rwhitby | nope |
| 04:45.29 | dwc- | I assume that means verizon and sprint ... would have different "carrier" fields? |
| 04:45.47 | rwhitby | yes. |
| 04:45.48 | dwc- | (assuming since I have no such devices to look at) |
| 04:46.23 | rwhitby | DMCARRIER is simply "ROW" for all the other regions |
| 04:46.32 | dwc- | so there's 4 known values for carrier... AT&T, verizon, sprint, ROW? |
| 04:46.41 | dwc- | (for US that is) |
| 04:46.55 | dwc- | (though I guess ROW isn't exactly "us") |
| 04:47.17 | rwhitby | ROW is used in the US for unlocked devices direct from HP/Palm |
| 04:47.40 | dwc- | aka pre2 |
| 04:47.53 | dwc- | or did the developer veers and pre3s come unlocked and marked as ROW too? |
| 04:47.59 | rwhitby | there's bellmo and telcel too |
| 04:48.19 | rwhitby | no such thing as developer veers or pre3s |
| 04:48.36 | dwc- | (developer program) |
| 04:48.43 | rwhitby | (nope) |
| 04:49.15 | dwc- | telcel is technically not US, I think |
| 04:49.23 | rwhitby | correct |
| 04:49.35 | dwc- | do verizon/sprint devices end up with an mcc/mnc? |
| 04:49.41 | rwhitby | and they are stuck on 1.4.0 anyway, so they're totally screwed |
| 04:49.58 | dwc- | (not counting the pre3 that is, which I'm guessing has the mcc/mnc of their gsm partner) |
| 04:50.15 | rwhitby | the mcc/mnc is based on whatever GSM sim you have inserted |
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| 04:52.37 | dwc- | I'm trying to think what combinations one might end up with that end up determining which store you end up with... it seems like there might be a case for (at least a trial) overriding mcc/mnc on GSM device activations to pick between AT&T and "palm"... or am I totally off base |
| 04:54.11 | rwhitby | yeah, an option to do that may be useful |
| 04:54.50 | rwhitby | it's quite expensive to test such options though, since you only get once chance for first activation on each device |
| 04:56.07 | dwc- | I remember hearing you suggesting people mention lisa's name or having her get involved with profile resets... has that been panning out? |
| 04:56.38 | rwhitby | I believe a couple of people have been persistent enough to get something to happen there. |
| 04:56.39 | dwc- | (obviously, I wouldn't expect them to do it repeatedly for someone, but ...) |
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| 04:59.08 | DougReeder | waves hello |
| 05:00.08 | dwc- | can't help but wonder if there's a convenient country around that's a little more legal-friendly to changing deviceids on devices for testing purposes |
| 05:04.11 | dwc- | well, I'll try to come up with a patch to add that as an option. Code looks easy enough to point to a non-palm server for that sort of testing at least. (maybe anyways) |
| 05:05.22 | rwhitby | oh, I'm not worried about testing of the code. that is trivial. |
| 05:05.38 | rwhitby | the testing is what happens when that is given to the real profile server (which also changes over time( |
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| 06:39.23 | green-- | hm, so if my lvm is shot (on touchpad) and webosdoctor fails with inability to mount media from group store, would metadoctor know how to recreate the lvm volumes from scratch? |
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| 06:46.00 | rwhitby | meta-doctor just uses webosdoctor |
| 06:46.10 | rwhitby | you'll need to recreate to make it happy |
| 06:47.08 | green-- | you mean recreate by hand? ;) |
| 06:47.21 | green-- | hopefully there is some tool or script I can use ;) |
| 06:51.00 | nb|webOS | my pre3 should arrive on Monday or Tuesday - hash |
| 06:51.15 | nb|webOS | lol hash = yaay .. nice auto correct |
| 06:59.16 | green-- | sigh, nothing like creating 7 lvm volumes by hand. at least I had the previous printout |
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| 07:07.26 | rwhitby | green--: topaz.xml in the doctor has the partition details |
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| 12:27.44 | Meanwhile | Sigh...the App Catalog icon isn't customizable anymore in webOS v2.1 (it was on v4.5.1)......... does anybody know or care how to do it (simple renaming doesn't work, no result with changing permissions, sending the new icon via Quick Install also doesn't work) |
| 12:33.37 | Meanwhile | even deleting the original icon has no effect |
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| 13:26.49 | Meanwhile | (I'll put the question in the precentral forums) |
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| 16:28.00 | resistivecorpse | you've got big fans in there |
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| 18:04.35 | compengi | hello, i'm trying to connect to my TP using WebOS-Quick-Install-v4.3.1 software on ubuntu 11.04. i have the developer-mode (with password enabled) switched on. when i open the application it keeps telling me that my password is wrong. i haven't tried any earlier versions, but i wonder if this is a known issue |
| 18:06.04 | compengi | it works on windows though |
| 18:12.08 | pc-world | compengi: Quick Install isn't opensource (and not by WebOS Internals), so the best way is to ask Jason Robitaille (@JayCanuck on Twitter) |
| 18:12.39 | compengi | aha |
| 18:12.42 | compengi | thanks for info |
| 18:15.31 | pc-world | he's the only one really knowing what's going on in Quick Install, and he's not in IRC usually |
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| 19:10.12 | rwhitby | morning |
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| 19:20.04 | rwhitby | ah, it's always great getting less than 4 hours sleep just before 20h of flights. |
| 19:20.22 | halfhalo | hah |
| 19:20.24 | summatusmentis | that doesn't sound great |
| 19:21.14 | dwc- | is there a conference or something this week? |
| 19:21.21 | rwhitby | no |
| 19:21.29 | rwhitby | business trip |
| 19:21.53 | summatusmentis | what does your company do? |
| 19:21.55 | dwc- | hp's dimes? |
| 19:21.59 | summatusmentis | chips and things? |
| 19:22.14 | resistivecorpse | rwhitby: you going to san frsn? |
| 19:22.15 | rwhitby | yeah, "stuff" |
| 19:22.25 | resistivecorpse | *fran |
| 19:22.25 | rwhitby | san jose |
| 19:22.42 | resistivecorpse | that's it. I read about it |
| 19:22.45 | halfhalo | thats what they all say. one minute you go "yes honey its just a quick buisness trip" and then next you are in vegas spending all your monies. or the bay area doing the same, but with phones. |
| 19:23.13 | rwhitby | halfhalo: no money changing hands for these puppies |
| 19:24.05 | summatusmentis | you're smuggling puppies? |
| 19:24.06 | dwc- | halfhalo: sounds like it's time for you to make a "business trip" to sunnyvale |
| 19:24.42 | rwhitby | halfhalo: I have to save the cash to purchase wigboo itself. |
| 19:24.57 | halfhalo | hah |
| 19:27.51 | dwc- | hopes some extra pre3s fall out of the back of cars/trucks for other people too :p |
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| 19:29.30 | halfhalo | lol |
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| 21:12.20 | PatrickC | ok.. anyone with a pre3 in here? |
| 21:12.35 | PatrickC | I went to install an app (free) and the download fails every time |
| 21:12.57 | PatrickC | then tried to use impostah, and it tells me download failed, and says I need to purchase the app first |
| 21:13.00 | PatrickC | appid: com.jmprod.gsearch |
| 21:13.06 | halfhalo | dundundun.... |
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| 21:57.21 | dwc- | try it on your older devices? |
| 22:03.27 | LunohoD | do you know any SDL-based application where I can steal gestures handling code? |
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| 22:19.58 | ka6sox | LunohoD, for which platform? |
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| 22:42.50 | Abyssul-TP | Alright. Need a little help. Unzip says no space on device. Device info says i have 12.6gb free |
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| 22:44.21 | bpadalino | use df -h and pwd to see how much space you have and where you are? |
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