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| 00:03.12 | ctbeiser | Or rather, where might I look for my save data? |
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| 00:08.00 | rwhitby | probably in the appdir, or in /media/internal somewhere |
| 00:08.11 | rwhitby | dtzWill would know best |
| 00:09.49 | elfurbe | I really want to help with that alpha test but I really don't want to doctor my touchpad when it doesn't boot |
| 00:16.48 | ctbeiser | rwhitby: Where exactly do I find the appdir? I thought it was /var/usr, but I can't find anything there. |
| 00:23.57 | cat-xeger | rwhitby - what sort of infoz are you looking for re: uberkernel/govenah |
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| 00:30.35 | dwc- | /media/cryptofs/usr/palm/applications |
| 00:31.21 | cat-xeger | rwhitby - is govnah 1.2.1 expected to be locked to a single profile? |
| 00:31.47 | rwhitby | what do you mean by locked? govnah is never locked to a profile |
| 00:32.13 | rwhitby | govnah provides default profiles, and advanced settings to create your own |
| 00:32.41 | cat-xeger | rwhitby - I have/had existing profiles which I don't seem to be able to select any longer. |
| 00:32.53 | ctbeiser | dwc- There's an apps between cryptofs and usr. |
| 00:33.17 | rwhitby | cat-xeger: where they for different kernels? |
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| 00:33.56 | cat-xeger | rwhitby - yeah, for an older uberkernel |
| 00:35.15 | cat-xeger | Creating a new profile by the same name overwrites it, at least -- would be nice if there was some sort of feedback beyond nothing happening. |
| 00:36.51 | cat-xeger | At any rate, both seem to install without immediate issue, and also seem to be running without immediate issue |
| 00:42.08 | cat-xeger | Presumably you're wanting the uberkernel default profile? |
| 00:44.28 | ctbeiser | If I doctor my ATT Pre+ using a 2.1 metadoctor, is it going to let me reactivate and set up a new Palm Profile afterwards? |
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| 00:48.03 | cat-xeger | Cute. Had to remove/re-install openssh, since it wasn't appearing/connecting. |
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| 00:58.21 | cat-xeger | Hm. Is cifs known to work w/ the uberkernel alpha? |
| 01:01.04 | cat-xeger | Welp... at least asking causes things to start working :) |
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| 01:14.01 | kostka | ctbeiser, AFAIK u can't do that with already-activate devices |
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| 01:48.06 | rwhitby | cat-xeger: thanks for testing |
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| 02:25.45 | actionfigure | anyone have Amazon MP3 for 2.1? |
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| 02:31.09 | actionfigure | anyone? |
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| 02:36.14 | Abyssul | no |
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| 03:03.55 | dwc- | actionfigure: yes |
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| 03:20.10 | bouncer5 | Hello |
| 03:20.11 | actionfigure | anyone use Amazon mp3 on 2.1? i cant seem to find it |
| 03:20.28 | bouncer5 | Anyone an expert on the SDK and novacom? |
| 03:21.02 | actionfigure | bouncer5: os? |
| 03:21.23 | bouncer5 | Im trying to install android, And novacom is giving me errors, nobody on the android part knows why its happening, and suggested cming here. |
| 03:21.39 | bouncer5 | Ive tried it on 2 windows 7 machines, One 32bit on 64bit. |
| 03:22.13 | actionfigure | what errors? |
| 03:22.34 | bouncer5 | When I try to to do the novacom command I get access denied. |
| 03:22.47 | actionfigure | permission problem |
| 03:22.54 | bouncer5 | I've tried taht |
| 03:23.02 | bouncer5 | I took owenership of the folder |
| 03:23.12 | bouncer5 | and made sure I had full permissions |
| 03:23.18 | bouncer5 | Still same error |
| 03:23.30 | actionfigure | on windows, run novaterm.exe or novaterm-1.exe from the palm/sdk/bin directory. (use explorer or a command line) (if this doesn't work, run novacom -t open tty:// ) |
| 03:23.35 | bouncer5 | on 2 sperate machines... |
| 03:24.08 | actionfigure | http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/222854-how-novacom-into-my-actual-pre.html |
| 03:24.24 | dwc- | actionfigure: yes. stole it out of another doctor |
| 03:25.09 | actionfigure | dwc-: how did you do that? |
| 03:25.30 | dwc- | unzip'd the jarfile |
| 03:25.34 | actionfigure | on 2.1 i also had issues looking at picture on the browser..i can only see it in full view....why? |
| 03:25.52 | dwc- | the pre2 verizon doctor |
| 03:25.55 | dwc- | I think |
| 03:26.00 | actionfigure | oh cool |
| 03:26.09 | actionfigure | ill have to download it |
| 03:26.09 | bouncer5 | I don;t have novaterm.... |
| 03:27.22 | actionfigure | i think novacom and novaterm are in the same folder |
| 03:27.42 | bouncer5 | I downloaded the SDK Installed it and its not there |
| 03:27.51 | bouncer5 | Anyway I tried your novacom -t |
| 03:28.16 | actionfigure | im on linux |
| 03:28.18 | actionfigure | so |
| 03:28.23 | actionfigure | this is what i did |
| 03:28.35 | dwc- | on windows, novaterm and novacom are in diff places |
| 03:28.36 | actionfigure | i cd /opt/palm/novacom/ |
| 03:28.49 | dwc- | and they keep moving them around with seemingly every version |
| 03:28.56 | actionfigure | and then i sudo novacomd |
| 03:29.41 | scoutcamper | actionfigure, add /opt/palm/novacom to your PATH, it saves time |
| 03:29.59 | bouncer5 | I installed only "novacom" as it is the only part I need for the android files. |
| 03:30.05 | actionfigure | scoutcamper: hiya :) |
| 03:30.08 | dwc- | my novacomd runs at startup |
| 03:30.18 | actionfigure | scoutcamper: thanks...i find the way i do it easier... |
| 03:30.31 | dwc- | it also was symlinked per the pkg installer into /usr/local |
| 03:30.35 | actionfigure | well im not seeing amazon in the preverizon doctor |
| 03:30.35 | dwc- | (which is already in my path) |
| 03:30.43 | dwc- | pre2? |
| 03:30.56 | actionfigure | no pre+ |
| 03:31.08 | dwc- | 20:25 < dwc-> the pre2 verizon doctor |
| 03:31.08 | actionfigure | im trying to steal it like you said :) |
| 03:31.16 | actionfigure | yes |
| 03:31.18 | actionfigure | thats what i have |
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| 03:31.43 | dwc- | that's not the pre+ |
| 03:32.11 | dwc- | (it might be in the pre+, but I don't have one of those downloaded) |
| 03:32.19 | dwc- | and then it's inside the verizon.tar |
| 03:32.22 | actionfigure | so where can i get amazon mp3? |
| 03:32.42 | bouncer5 | Any idea why im getting permission errors now? Cant paste a text file in tehr enow |
| 03:33.40 | scoutcamper | bouncer5, what device? and os version? |
| 03:34.03 | actionfigure | dwc-: ok..i found amazonservice_1.1.7 |
| 03:34.05 | bouncer5 | windows 7 |
| 03:34.08 | actionfigure | dwc-: whats the other file? |
| 03:34.19 | bouncer5 | trying novacom to get android onto the touchpad |
| 03:34.29 | scoutcamper | bouncer5, what webos version? |
| 03:34.30 | dwc- | the other one with amazon in the name? |
| 03:34.49 | bouncer5 | I tried 3.0.3 |
| 03:34.59 | bouncer5 | I then upgraded and that is also failing |
| 03:35.11 | actionfigure | dwc-: com.palm.amazonstore? |
| 03:35.28 | dwc- | hmm, managed to get 3.0.3 but doesn't have working novacom drivers? interesting .... |
| 03:35.50 | scoutcamper | bouncer5, dev mode password? |
| 03:36.01 | bouncer5 | none set |
| 03:36.27 | actionfigure | dwc-: so when you install those 2 files...is that al you did? did you do any command line stuff? |
| 03:36.28 | dwc- | actionfigure: that would be the one that would get you to the amazon mp3 store, yes |
| 03:36.34 | dwc- | that is all I did |
| 03:36.40 | actionfigure | great thanks!!! |
| 03:37.01 | actionfigure | dwc-: can you do me a favor and go to your browser and see if you can look at images in googles? |
| 03:37.12 | dwc- | ? |
| 03:37.29 | actionfigure | when i click an image i cant see it..only if i go to full view |
| 03:38.20 | dwc- | works for me |
| 03:38.42 | actionfigure | hmmm |
| 03:39.00 | actionfigure | dwc-: if you google and image can you pass the 14th page? |
| 03:39.06 | actionfigure | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.35 | actionfigure | dwc-: know what i mean? |
| 03:47.14 | actionfigure | scoutcamper: hiya :) |
| 03:47.34 | scoutcamper | hello |
| 03:47.36 | actionfigure | dwc-: did you need root access for amazon? |
| 03:47.40 | actionfigure | scoutcamper: how goes it |
| 03:47.49 | actionfigure | bouncer5: did it work? :) |
| 03:48.00 | scoutcamper | good |
| 03:48.13 | bouncer5 | Its been a long day |
| 03:48.15 | bouncer5 | I found my issue |
| 03:48.20 | actionfigure | bouncer5: oh good |
| 03:48.26 | actionfigure | bouncer5: i know the feeling |
| 03:48.29 | bouncer5 | I ment to move the file, |
| 03:48.36 | bouncer5 | Instead i moved the same names folder. |
| 03:48.37 | bouncer5 | Derp. |
| 03:48.59 | bouncer5 | Now im gong to go to sleep and avoid silly mistakes like that |
| 03:49.09 | bouncer5 | Thaanks for the help fellas |
| 03:49.19 | actionfigure | bouncer5: nite and good luck |
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| 04:36.09 | dwc- | ka6sox: did you see my question about the wiki and captchas? |
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| 04:36.44 | actionfigure | dwc-: got installed thanks :) |
| 04:36.53 | actionfigure | but i cant purchase anything :( |
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| 04:44.02 | elfurbe | So the tab key on the Bluetooth keyboard is also typing 9 in xterm now as well as the soft keyboard |
| 04:44.07 | elfurbe | Kinda weird |
| 04:44.16 | elfurbe | Pretty sure it was working before |
| 04:44.29 | PatrickC | I get that too |
| 04:44.40 | PatrickC | I think something broke between 3.0.2 and 3.0.4 |
| 04:46.57 | elfurbe | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. Glad to know it's not just me :D |
| 04:49.30 | dwc- | actionfigure: never tried. I usually buy on one of my desktops with the mp3 collections on them |
| 04:49.33 | PatrickC | dtzWill: ping? |
| 04:49.43 | actionfigure | dwc-: test it :) |
| 04:49.58 | dwc- | nothing I want to buy at the moment? |
| 04:51.47 | actionfigure | ok..thanks though :) |
| 04:51.48 | dtzWill | PatrickC: yeah tab worked before for sure :). haven't looked as to what is causing it, should be a straightforward fix. |
| 04:52.07 | PatrickC | ok cool :) |
| 04:52.09 | dtzWill | hopefully it's just that they changed what's emitted for tab |
| 04:52.14 | dtzWill | which would be kinda strange, but oh well. |
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| 04:52.46 | PatrickC | at least you know of the problem :) |
| 04:53.09 | dtzWill | yeah, it can't be many things and i just added to my TODO officially... for whatever that's worth ^.^ |
| 04:53.46 | PatrickC | lol |
| 04:54.31 | PatrickC | I was showing a friend ubuntu chroot and they were like "awesome.. a desktop on a tablet as an app" :D |
| 04:54.54 | actionfigure | anyone else having issues when googling an image and passing the 14th page? ..also can not look at image unless in full view? |
| 04:56.33 | dtzWill | yeah seeing as tab is keycode 9, i'm pretty sure i know what's going on O:) |
| 04:57.47 | elfurbe | @CatSkill Sweet :D |
| 04:57.51 | elfurbe | whoops |
| 04:57.59 | elfurbe | autocorrect. ::sigh:: |
| 04:58.08 | actionfigure | yeah...i cant purchase through Amazon :( |
| 04:58.10 | elfurbe | @dtzWill that was |
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| 05:07.01 | dtzWill | it would be good if I built arm code instead of x86 ^.^ |
| 05:10.33 | dtzWill | errr does ssh work for anyone else on 3.0.4? |
| 05:10.57 | dtzWill | i thought it somehow just didn't start while i was bouncing kernels, so went to invoke the ssh script manually and upstart seems rather unhappy |
| 05:11.00 | dtzWill | i'll try reinstalling it... |
| 05:11.37 | dtzWill | hmm maybe i'm fail and invoking it wrong. |
| 05:12.29 | dtzWill | nvm, i'm fail. sorry for the noise |
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| 05:15.00 | dtzWill | tab works again, will push to alpha in a bit |
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| 05:44.25 | dtzWill | does anyone know of xserver's orientation detection works on stock 3.0.4? |
| 05:44.43 | dtzWill | because atm i'm having a hard time getting the accelerometer to do anything, boo |
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| 05:48.24 | Sam_12 | quick question peeps, how do i get rid of debian's partition? I was able to get rid of my 5gb ubuntu partition, but i think debian still has 2gb in limbo somewhere ;) |
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| 05:58.29 | dtzWill | ah, got it. hooray. |
| 05:59.14 | dwc- | I don't think most people have debian partitions or ubuntu partitions |
| 06:00.23 | dwc- | they might have a directory that serves as their "filesystem" root but that's likely it |
| 06:00.29 | dwc- | and you'd remove the two of them in similar ways |
| 06:34.47 | dwc- | ~12h ago, maybe? |
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| 06:40.51 | dtzWill | hmm never pushed the alt fixes to actual feed, left it in alpha. |
| 06:40.58 | dtzWill | any alpha-apps feed users have any issues with 'alt'? :) |
| 06:41.11 | ka6sox | on vkb or BT? |
| 06:41.20 | dtzWill | either. |
| 06:42.05 | dtzWill | alright well here goes nothing, pushing updated xserver to alpha feeds :D |
| 06:43.01 | dtzWill | update should fix all known 3.0.4 issues (orientation detection, tab char not working) as well as add vkb support for control and escape |
| 06:43.23 | dtzWill | if it works, should update xecutah's blurb about esc/control and push to non-alpha |
| 06:43.32 | rwhitby | ok |
| 06:44.56 | dtzWill | i feel slightly bad that i have zero communication with the people who maintain various 'easy configure X' setups, and have no idea if/when i break them : |
| 06:44.58 | dtzWill | :/ |
| 06:45.00 | dtzWill | guess they can let me know :( |
| 06:45.32 | rwhitby | dtzWill: that's what alpha and beta feeds are for |
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| 06:46.38 | dtzWill | rwhitby: should i post changelogs to p|c to alert interested alpha-testers? |
| 06:46.52 | dtzWill | kinda dropped off the p|c radar lately >_> heh |
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| 06:58.56 | technikfreak | hello coudl i update the touchpoad without loosing the ubuntu chroot_ |
| 06:59.52 | ka6sox | OTA? |
| 07:00.03 | ka6sox | or doing a doctor? |
| 07:01.17 | technikfreak | over the air |
| 07:01.49 | dtzWill | technikfreak: should be fine, but if it's critical then should back it up |
| 07:02.26 | dtzWill | aka "i think you'll be fine, but i can't promise you that and don't want to be responsible" ;) |
| 07:02.44 | ka6sox | dwc-, fixed...good spot |
| 07:03.13 | ka6sox | try now |
| 07:03.32 | dtzWill | elfurbe, PatrickC_Away: if you guys are on alpha-apps, just pushed update for xserver |
| 07:03.54 | ka6sox | technikfreak, unless things are broken in your PV or VG you should be fine. |
| 07:04.16 | ka6sox | dwc-, can you try now? |
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| 07:05.01 | dwc- | sure, 1 sec |
| 07:05.49 | dwc- | works |
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| 07:06.12 | ka6sox | dwc-, thanks a lot fo catching that. |
| 07:06.21 | dwc- | you can delete http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Test2 and http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Test3 |
| 07:06.38 | dwc- | np, annoys me more than it annoyed you ;) |
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| 07:10.01 | discord | 00:06 < discord> i need to return a touchpad to stock, will running webos doctor remove ubuntu chroot and kernels, etc? |
| 07:12.08 | Xuzz | discord: yes, although you will need to clear your user partition yourself |
| 07:12.22 | ka6sox | dwc-, will do |
| 07:12.24 | discord | Xuzz: thanks |
| 07:13.27 | discord | i started a secure full erase hoping it would remove chroot and kernels, wish there was a safe way to abort |
| 07:14.03 | discord | its taking forever... |
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| 08:06.02 | ka6sox | Soruk, ping? |
| 08:09.27 | geist | ka6sox: how does that callsign work? I thought all ham callsigns started with letter + digit + <other> |
| 08:10.08 | geist | is it because you have an extra license? |
| 08:10.27 | elfurbe | @dtzWill I'm not on alpha apps, just beta. |
| 08:11.10 | geist | ah, okay, looks like ka is a prefix too |
| 08:11.12 | geist | complicated. |
| 08:11.19 | dtzWill | oh. damn, i'll put into beta. |
| 08:13.23 | ka6sox | geist, ya, I've had it since like 1979, and even though I'm an Extra everyone knows this call. |
| 08:13.48 | geist | was just reading about it. all the hams i know are k<digit>, but guess that's just the ones i happen to know |
| 08:14.19 | ka6sox | that used to be because they were "old" now it may mean that they bought it as a "vanity" cal. |
| 08:14.21 | ka6sox | call. |
| 08:14.31 | geist | nah, most of them are 'old' |
| 08:14.37 | ka6sox | he he.... |
| 08:14.40 | ka6sox | I'm OLD too. |
| 08:14.47 | geist | like my dad :) k5doa, got it in the early 60s i believe |
| 08:15.04 | ka6sox | ah, memorable call. |
| 08:15.14 | geist | heh yeah |
| 08:15.54 | ka6sox | do you have yours? |
| 08:16.05 | geist | nah, never did. i keep meaning to get around to it |
| 08:16.16 | ka6sox | do it...no more morse code :( |
| 08:16.19 | geist | i grew up late enough that the internet has filled that spot in my life. the usual story |
| 08:16.29 | ka6sox | until it breaks. |
| 08:16.49 | geist | yeah, my dad is a big cw fan. mostly classic bugs now |
| 08:17.11 | ka6sox | some of them are quite quick |
| 08:18.07 | geist | oh yeah, he can copy in the 30-40 range i think, though i believe he was saying most folks dont run that fast anymore |
| 08:18.14 | ka6sox | Leno had 2 CW ops (that I knew) and 2 fasters texters.... |
| 08:19.24 | ka6sox | they of course beat them (network lag I'm sure got them) |
| 08:19.35 | geist | heh |
| 08:21.14 | ka6sox | I know that even with the net there are some places that will be cutoff pretty quick. |
| 08:22.43 | geist | yeah, might be time to just do t |
| 08:22.50 | geist | anyway, off to sleep |
| 08:22.53 | ka6sox | niters |
| 08:22.57 | ka6sox | good to see you |
| 08:22.58 | ka6sox | 73' |
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| 08:50.37 | ziplock503 | would it be possible to use the messaging app from 2.2 on a pre 2 running 2.1 ? |
| 08:52.10 | dtzWill | elfurbe: fwiw pushed to beta |
| 08:52.34 | ziplock503 | extract it from the doctor and then re package for 2.1? |
| 08:58.11 | ka6sox | ziplock503, let me know how that goes...or better yet, document it in the wiki :D |
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| 09:07.05 | ziplock503 | I just wanna know if its possible LOL so I can fix this palm pre 2 sms bug |
| 09:07.36 | ziplock503 | but i think its a 2.1 messaging bug |
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| 09:15.09 | EricBlade | f15c 3.0.4-80 @ 1.7ghz lithium bench = 89, browsermark = 47407, sunspider = 2402 .. my stock 3.0.4 touchpad doesnt even complete the browsermark |
| 09:17.59 | EricBlade | stock 3.0.4 is a 127 on the lithum |
| 09:23.18 | EricBlade | stock 3.0.4 is a 3227 on the sunspider. . wow |
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| 09:37.07 | Soruk | wakes up, finally able to connect from work again. |
| 09:37.16 | ka6sox | w00h00! |
| 09:37.28 | ka6sox | Soruk, I have questions about twm |
| 09:37.43 | Soruk | Sure, what's up? |
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| 10:18.10 | EricBlade | hmm. my preware is stuck at "Reading Saved Package List" |
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| 10:39.13 | Ice8lue | Â heyho |
| 10:59.15 | ruumis | so uNiXpSyChO, f4 is currently the only custom kernel available for 3.0.4? |
| 11:00.23 | ruumis | oh, and f15c |
| 11:03.26 | technikfreak | is icq now working on the new touchpad webos version? |
| 11:04.29 | hucksy | lol... |
| 11:04.31 | hucksy | ;) |
| 11:05.20 | hucksy | it never will until nuttybunny releases his plugins |
| 11:05.53 | dtzWill | ruumis: and uberkernel |
| 11:06.01 | dtzWill | don't forget good ol' uk ^.^ |
| 11:07.08 | ruumis | ahh, didn't see that one in preware? |
| 11:07.11 | ruumis | nor warthog |
| 11:07.25 | dtzWill | oh |
| 11:07.34 | dtzWill | maybe it didn't get promoted in the feeds yet |
| 11:07.37 | dtzWill | might still be in testing |
| 11:08.01 | ruumis | I'm on f4 for now, since guvnah got updated to support it |
| 11:08.18 | owa | yep |
| 11:08.26 | owa | what about the patches like adblocker etc? |
| 11:08.39 | owa | they stopped working after the 3.0.4 update and they disappeared from preware... |
| 11:08.56 | ruumis | i imagine they're forthcoming |
| 11:10.01 | ka6sox | uk is in normal, some versions of other kernels are in either alpha or beta. |
| 11:10.49 | EricBlade | i am running F15 right now, I see F4, Uber, warthog . . it looks like F4 and F15 have definitely been updated to correct the camera problem, not sure about Uber and Warthog |
| 11:11.40 | ka6sox | EricBlade, think of WH, F* and others as testbeds for UK...when its been proven...it gets "promoted" to UK. |
| 11:12.02 | ka6sox | if it flames out and crashes? well...don't expect to see it in UK. |
| 11:12.04 | EricBlade | right, i'm just saying that i do see them, so they are in one feed or another |
| 11:12.22 | ka6sox | probably in alpha or beta/ |
| 11:13.56 | dtzWill | uber has been updated to fix camera |
| 11:14.01 | dtzWill | using it now, etc |
| 11:14.09 | dtzWill | tend to be decently conservative with kernel choices |
| 11:16.36 | ka6sox | :) |
| 11:19.39 | YeahRight | i accidentally updated to webos 3.04 without removing any patches or my custom kernel..what should i do in which appropiate order to fix this? |
| 11:23.28 | ka6sox | tell me you aren't using themes too. |
| 11:23.35 | YeahRight | no themes |
| 11:23.49 | YeahRight | didnt install the theme manager yet :P |
| 11:24.01 | ka6sox | there is some kind of emergency patch fixer you can find in the wiki |
| 11:24.07 | ka6sox | that might straighten those out. |
| 11:24.42 | YeahRight | the 3.04 update did complete succesfully it said |
| 11:24.56 | YeahRight | however i dont know what i might have broken in preware |
| 11:25.42 | dtzWill | (disclaimer: I'm a tad reckless) I updated to 3.0.4 with a custom kernel and patches installed |
| 11:25.44 | dtzWill | so far things seem just fine |
| 11:25.55 | YeahRight | for one thing the kernel update (Phantom) didnt work anymore obviously |
| 11:26.03 | YeahRight | dtzWill : i did that too |
| 11:26.11 | YeahRight | ka6sox : you got a link maybe? |
| 11:26.24 | ka6sox | lemme see |
| 11:26.37 | ka6sox | I think its called emergency patch recovery. |
| 11:26.42 | dtzWill | presumably when the patches are updated |
| 11:26.44 | ka6sox | but where on the wiki. |
| 11:26.45 | dtzWill | i'll get updates in preware |
| 11:26.49 | dtzWill | and aupt magic will fix things |
| 11:26.52 | ka6sox | oh right |
| 11:26.56 | YeahRight | its meant specifically for this situation? |
| 11:26.57 | ka6sox | but you need to run this first. |
| 11:27.05 | YeahRight | aupt magic ? |
| 11:27.07 | ka6sox | YeahRight, I believe so |
| 11:27.13 | YeahRight | how sweet |
| 11:27.17 | ka6sox | Automagic Patch Update magic. |
| 11:27.21 | dtzWill | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Auto-Update_Patch_Technology |
| 11:27.31 | YeahRight | i fuck up and you guys have a fix for that already :P |
| 11:27.53 | ka6sox | well...we usually find these things on our own first. |
| 11:27.58 | ka6sox | and break stuff. |
| 11:28.04 | dtzWill | all patches _should_ be done doing that, and themes not using it (because they couldn't) is biggest reason people are aggressive about making sure themes aren't installed, etc |
| 11:28.12 | dtzWill | but anyway it's no guarantee but it's supposed to work |
| 11:28.34 | dtzWill | each OTA is new, and who knows how they go. not like we have a copy of the OTA we can test before y'all, we just update when it comes out and clean up any/all messes that result ^.^ |
| 11:29.05 | ka6sox | YMMV |
| 11:29.11 | dtzWill | but for example, see http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Auto-Update_Patch_Technology#OTA_Update |
| 11:29.26 | dtzWill | The new AUPT system makes this unnecessary and allows you to leave patches installed and then update them all after an OTA update to a new version of webOS. |
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| 11:29.37 | dtzWill | that's the vision, and for the most part it seems to work. |
| 11:29.48 | dtzWill | and when it doesn't, the various emergency-fixer tools do the job :) |
| 11:30.04 | YeahRight | this AUPT system has to be installed or something? |
| 11:30.16 | ka6sox | gets installed with your first patch |
| 11:30.20 | dtzWill | nah, it's transparent. the patches use it |
| 11:30.35 | dtzWill | afaik all patches in preware use it, but i don't know for sure |
| 11:30.43 | YeahRight | but at the time i installed my first patch it might not have existed yet? |
| 11:31.06 | dtzWill | well if you're talking touchpad, then it definitely did |
| 11:31.08 | ka6sox | I thought there was some support stuff for it that gets installed. |
| 11:31.14 | YeahRight | yeah touchapd |
| 11:31.28 | dtzWill | touchpad launched 2011, last update on that wiki is jul 2010 |
| 11:31.29 | dtzWill | hehe |
| 11:31.46 | dtzWill | (not saying you should've noticed that, but i jsut checked and thought i'd share hehe) |
| 11:32.12 | YeahRight | so dtzWill : so you're saying i dont need to fix anything except for using updates preware is presenting me? |
| 11:33.41 | kalas | hello, i want to know if u install version 3.04 of webos ontop some Uberkernel from preware can cause problems? |
| 11:34.06 | YeahRight | am i right dtzWill / ka6sox ? |
| 11:34.39 | ka6sox | YeahRight, if your patches are NOT working after that then its possible you need to run the EPR |
| 11:34.59 | YeahRight | well the problem is dont remember all patches i installed |
| 11:35.00 | dtzWill | YeahRight: yep. unless it appears otherwise, then run EPR to fix things (it force-uninstalls all patches) |
| 11:35.10 | dtzWill | YeahRight: aren't they still listed as 'installed' in preware? |
| 11:35.18 | EricBlade | kalas, anything -can- happen, but for the most part, it should just work, it'll replace your kernel with the palm kernel, and then next time you run preware, you can pick up the kernel update |
| 11:35.18 | YeahRight | for ex the wrinkle effect returned now |
| 11:35.42 | dtzWill | YeahRight: yep |
| 11:35.47 | dtzWill | so some patches won't work anymore |
| 11:35.51 | dtzWill | because they were overridden |
| 11:35.58 | YeahRight | well preware claims the remove tap riplle patch is installed for ex |
| 11:36.02 | YeahRight | while it is not anymore |
| 11:36.03 | dtzWill | but because it's still in preware |
| 11:36.05 | dtzWill | as 'installed' |
| 11:36.10 | dtzWill | when an update comes |
| 11:36.13 | EricBlade | YeahRight: my understanding, is that you will of course lose all your patches to OS files when you OTA. By not removing them first, you allow the Preware installer to keep track of which ones you had, and then when the patch is updated, it will let you know |
| 11:36.18 | dtzWill | aka when someone releases the wripple patch for 3.0.4 |
| 11:36.24 | dtzWill | preware'll update it and apply the patch |
| 11:36.34 | dtzWill | by leaving them installed you automatically are subscribed to the relatd updates |
| 11:37.30 | YeahRight | EricBlade : so its probably best not to remove the patches first then? i mean the installed patches liste wont be accurate but at least you'll get an update notice when the 3.04 patch is released then |
| 11:37.43 | YeahRight | dtzWill : EXACTLY |
| 11:38.00 | ka6sox | YeahRight, EPR will make it so when its available you can re-add it. |
| 11:38.04 | YeahRight | so this suggests to me its best not to take any precautions before applying the OTA update.. |
| 11:38.05 | dtzWill | i was just about to be quiet since EricBlade said what i said only clearer/more concisely |
| 11:38.07 | kalas | so imust really think that the webchat support i just used didnt sort my problem because of server issues they have |
| 11:38.19 | dtzWill | YeahRight: best in terms of potential for easiest on you |
| 11:38.35 | YeahRight | right |
| 11:38.36 | dtzWill | we recommend uninstalling, just like we recommend backing everything up before doing anything ;) |
| 11:38.45 | kalas | and hope they fix the server so i can activate the TP with webos profile |
| 11:38.46 | YeahRight | heh..makes sense :P |
| 11:38.52 | YeahRight | i'm happy i didnt really break stuff |
| 11:38.58 | dtzWill | because things break, and for example an OTA might replace some files and not others and have some unexpected behavior (i think?) |
| 11:39.02 | YeahRight | normally i'm more careful.. |
| 11:39.16 | ka6sox | ota's can be tricky |
| 11:39.31 | ka6sox | and going from 1 version (not build) to another can be problematic. |
| 11:39.34 | YeahRight | and i'm happy with all the knowledge and support in this channel :P |
| 11:39.56 | YeahRight | figure if you would need this kind of support of HP itself..LOL |
| 11:40.04 | ka6sox | now getting any more apps for that device could be tricky for a while. |
| 11:40.20 | dtzWill | yeah, all the patches are made by volunteers |
| 11:40.25 | dtzWill | and need to be hand-updated, etc |
| 11:40.40 | dtzWill | or at least verified that even if they still apply cleanly that they still do what's expected |
| 11:40.44 | dtzWill | and that's a lot of work :) |
| 11:40.47 | YeahRight | what is the best way to backup everything i have installed? i want to install cm7 soon too but i dont want to loose anything webos related.. |
| 11:40.49 | ka6sox | and the patch portal is flash paper held up by matches. |
| 11:41.14 | dtzWill | hahaha |
| 11:41.40 | dtzWill | YeahRight: i don't know that there is any actually supported backup process |
| 11:42.00 | dtzWill | there are misc solutions that work well |
| 11:42.03 | YeahRight | i hope so.. |
| 11:42.06 | dtzWill | save/restore, etc |
| 11:42.10 | dtzWill | but solve different things |
| 11:42.23 | ka6sox | some things save/restore and some backup from HP |
| 11:42.24 | YeahRight | could you tell me those misc solutions? |
| 11:42.26 | ka6sox | but everything? |
| 11:42.28 | kalas | is there any other way to activate the HP TP without losing warranty? |
| 11:42.32 | ka6sox | di rather doubt it. |
| 11:42.32 | dtzWill | for example we don't provide the kind of backup that lets yo say "image my device so i can restore it later" |
| 11:42.50 | YeahRight | yeah i would have liked that.. |
| 11:42.56 | ka6sox | except HP wouldnt' |
| 11:42.57 | dtzWill | metadoctor can back things up |
| 11:43.03 | dtzWill | in the sense that it'll grab everything off your device |
| 11:43.05 | dtzWill | and store it |
| 11:43.06 | ka6sox | oh right |
| 11:43.07 | dtzWill | but you can't restore |
| 11:43.17 | dtzWill | well not automagically anyway |
| 11:43.25 | ka6sox | well...you probably can...but its gonna be painful. |
| 11:43.26 | dtzWill | more just to "make sure i have a copy of all this somewhere" style backup |
| 11:43.30 | dtzWill | ka6sox: yep yep |
| 11:43.36 | YeahRight | but it should support restoring to a different partition size too to be useful since obviously android needs space too.. |
| 11:43.51 | ka6sox | "should" |
| 11:44.00 | ka6sox | Android on the device is a NON-Supported thing. |
| 11:44.00 | YeahRight | in an ideal world.. |
| 11:44.17 | dtzWill | YeahRight: you highlight exactly why there's no magical solutoin already for this |
| 11:44.26 | YeahRight | i dont ask android support..just a way to backup and resotre everything |
| 11:44.33 | dtzWill | since we're all hacking our devices (to different extents), handling all of that correclty is quite the tsak |
| 11:44.42 | YeahRight | yup |
| 11:45.11 | ka6sox | which is why I try to not muck about with production devices and not rely on dev devices for production work. |
| 11:45.12 | YeahRight | but there is way which gets most closely to what i'm asking |
| 11:45.24 | YeahRight | performing several steps |
| 11:45.37 | ka6sox | maybe, because I am not working that problem. |
| 11:46.04 | ka6sox | if I don't doctor a device in a week I'm not doing development. |
| 11:46.26 | ka6sox | because the stuff I do breaks stuff. |
| 11:46.37 | YeahRight | dtzWill : whats the use of metadoctor if you cant restore? |
| 11:47.00 | YeahRight | ka6sox : doctoring means you loose evrything right? |
| 11:47.00 | ka6sox | you don't have to use it. |
| 11:47.11 | ka6sox | yes, I do |
| 11:47.14 | ka6sox | regularly |
| 11:47.31 | YeahRight | i truly hate that..heh |
| 11:47.39 | ka6sox | doesnt' bother me anymore |
| 11:48.06 | ka6sox | but then I am doing things like resizing/repartitioning/reformatting on the fly. |
| 11:48.06 | dtzWill | palm backup and save/restore make doctoring really nice |
| 11:48.24 | YeahRight | i can understand but it depends on how you use the device and how easy you can get close to some preconfiguration |
| 11:48.40 | ka6sox | again, I use dev devices for this |
| 11:48.43 | ka6sox | not production. |
| 11:48.46 | YeahRight | right |
| 11:49.01 | YeahRight | dtzWill : you say metadoctor can backup everything? |
| 11:49.12 | ka6sox | so when I put CM7 on a TP I *expect* to lose everything. |
| 11:49.29 | YeahRight | yup..but thats not the case for everyone.. |
| 11:49.31 | dtzWill | YeahRight: it's not supported or even documented AFAIK but i believe it does |
| 11:50.03 | ka6sox | YeahRight, then alpha or beta is not for you. |
| 11:50.11 | YeahRight | dtzWill : anything special one needs to do before using it? and when you got the complete backup how can one put that to use again if you cant restore? |
| 11:50.21 | YeahRight | ka6sox : beta is actually.. |
| 11:50.22 | ka6sox | and you should wait till its all sussed out and "safe" |
| 11:50.31 | YeahRight | but alpha..nope indeed |
| 11:50.56 | YeahRight | i can live on losing everything if there is a way to get close to what i had |
| 11:51.00 | dtzWill | YeahRight: you look at how the backup was made and manually build your partitions/restore their contents |
| 11:51.01 | YeahRight | without too much work again |
| 11:51.02 | ka6sox | I have 1 TP with nothing but Alpha |
| 11:51.14 | ka6sox | and it routinely breaks.... |
| 11:51.18 | ka6sox | in "fun" ways. |
| 11:51.19 | YeahRight | dtzWill : which tools would i use for that? |
| 11:51.28 | YeahRight | ka6sox : hehe |
| 11:51.28 | dtzWill | but please understand that's only an actual option if you look at it, udnerstand it, and say to yourself "i'm okay witn this as my solution" |
| 11:51.39 | YeahRight | yep i understand |
| 11:51.42 | Freman | I'm so glad I'm not the only one having touchstone charging issues now :( |
| 11:51.51 | dtzWill | idk, novaterm, memboot'd recovery image, lvm tools, dd, tar |
| 11:52.04 | YeahRight | well making a backup like that wouldnt hurt even when i would not be ok on using it as way to restore afterwards |
| 11:53.11 | ka6sox | things going B00M is always "fun" |
| 11:54.06 | YeahRight | metadoctor is not something that can be installed through preware is it..(didnt use/try it yet) |
| 11:54.16 | ka6sox | noope |
| 11:54.25 | ka6sox | host side tool. |
| 11:57.29 | YeahRight | [20/10 13:29] <+dtzWill> and when it doesn't, the various emergency-fixer tools do the job :) |
| 11:57.39 | ka6sox | mostly |
| 11:57.43 | ka6sox | not 100% |
| 11:57.46 | YeahRight | there is more than the Emergency Patch Recovery ? |
| 11:58.11 | ka6sox | probably, but I don't use them as I don't care. |
| 11:58.12 | ka6sox | :D |
| 11:58.34 | YeahRight | if i run Emergency Patch Recovery will it kill my openssh access and/or other stuff i might have added/changed to my setup? |
| 11:58.48 | ka6sox | unk. |
| 11:58.55 | YeahRight | unk? |
| 11:59.01 | ka6sox | unknown |
| 11:59.20 | YeahRight | its unknown what mergency Patch Recovery actually does? :P |
| 11:59.22 | ka6sox | you *can* just re-install. |
| 11:59.37 | ka6sox | its probably in the wiki page for it. |
| 11:59.42 | YeahRight | re-install my modifications you mean? well i would like to avoid that.. |
| 12:00.04 | ka6sox | openssh when uninstalled leaves teh config alone. |
| 12:00.05 | YeahRight | took me some time and i have to check again how to do it properly |
| 12:00.13 | YeahRight | ah |
| 12:00.45 | YeahRight | still i would feel better if i would know what Emergency Patch Recovery would do exactly :P |
| 12:01.04 | YeahRight | will i also lose preware after running it? |
| 12:01.08 | LunohoD | YeahRight: if you find out what EPR does, please, share the knowledge |
| 12:01.16 | YeahRight | lol |
| 12:01.26 | YeahRight | not sure if i still dare to run it now..:P |
| 12:01.47 | LunohoD | YeahRight: i did EPR right before starting the 3.0.4 update |
| 12:01.49 | YeahRight | last update is rather old too |
| 12:01.50 | ka6sox | YeahRight, people use it. |
| 12:01.56 | YeahRight | 6/9/10 |
| 12:02.02 | ka6sox | and nobody has come in and complained. |
| 12:02.05 | YeahRight | and it only mentions the pre |
| 12:02.08 | ka6sox | (that I can remember) |
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| 12:02.42 | YeahRight | well ppl might have made less modifications than me :P |
| 12:04.01 | YeahRight | again some way to make a full backup and restore would have been very welcome in this case ;-) |
| 12:04.30 | YeahRight | which other tools you refer too dtzWill? [20/10 13:29] <+dtzWill> and when it doesn't, the various emergency-fixer tools do the job :) |
| 12:05.06 | ka6sox | yes, you have pasted that 2X |
| 12:05.28 | YeahRight | yup but i didnt address dtzWill directly yet |
| 12:05.38 | YeahRight | not meaning to annoy you in any way.. |
| 12:06.07 | ka6sox | you of course need to write this all up in the wiki so that others can be pointed there for help too :D |
| 12:06.24 | YeahRight | i know i should.. |
| 12:06.52 | ka6sox | let me know if you need to be promoted on the wiki so you can do this :D |
| 12:08.46 | YeahRight | promote me..i promised rwhitby before to add stuff to the wiki too..just dont hold it against me if its not added immediately |
| 12:09.17 | ka6sox | what is your username? |
| 12:10.51 | YeahRight | yeahright |
| 12:12.54 | ka6sox | YeahRight, you have been promoted |
| 12:13.08 | YeahRight | yay! |
| 12:14.14 | YeahRight | are there any differences in running EPR before OTA update compared to running it after OTA? |
| 12:15.36 | YeahRight | LunohoD : did you "loose" anything accept the patches when you ran EPR before OTA? |
| 12:17.11 | ka6sox | YeahRight, not tried. |
| 12:17.16 | ka6sox | evah |
| 12:19.55 | YeahRight | can i save the list of patches preware thinks i got installed from out of preware somehow? |
| 12:21.55 | ka6sox | preware can create a list of installed thing. |
| 12:21.57 | ka6sox | +s |
| 12:22.11 | YeahRight | ah nice.. |
| 12:22.50 | YeahRight | save package list i guess from main menu |
| 12:23.09 | YeahRight | hmm no |
| 12:24.01 | LunohoD | YeahRight: no |
| 12:24.30 | ka6sox | thats it. |
| 12:24.45 | LunohoD | YeahRight: I thought that EPR just restores the original files, that were altered by various patches |
| 12:25.00 | YeahRight | yeah prob :P |
| 12:26.01 | YeahRight | ka6sox : can i save that Saved Package List to a file somehow? |
| 12:26.09 | LunohoD | I've reinstalled some patches manuallry after the update |
| 12:26.15 | YeahRight | right |
| 12:26.33 | ka6sox | YeahRight, I'm doing maintainence right now...bbiab |
| 12:26.35 | YeahRight | ideally it shouldnt matter if you run EPR before or after the OTA |
| 12:27.05 | YeahRight | and to have the preware lists accurate its prob best to perform EPR and then manually reinstall patches |
| 12:27.25 | YeahRight | ka6sox : ok..thanks for returning :P |
| 12:50.03 | ka6sox | well...I didn't blow anything up....yet. |
| 12:50.47 | YeahRight | thats good :P |
| 12:51.12 | YeahRight | so can i save that Saved Package List to a file somehow? |
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| 13:03.02 | ka6sox | @ 6:02am with no sleep I am in no shape to be driving apps anywhere. |
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| 13:09.12 | YeahRight | i guess its not possible then ka6sox ? |
| 13:11.51 | ka6sox | have you looked @ the documentation yet? |
| 13:13.53 | YeahRight | well my question is fairly general |
| 13:15.05 | YeahRight | might require a lot of documentation checking if it is actually described in there..not trying to be lazy here |
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| 13:52.24 | bikr | Yo |
| 13:52.47 | bikr | Had someone try to update webos w/ a OC kernel , it has HP logo stuck w/ exclaimation point, any fix? |
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| 13:56.51 | YeahRight | bikr: i pdated too when running a OC kernel |
| 13:57.03 | YeahRight | could be something else caused it? |
| 13:57.08 | bikr | no idea |
| 13:57.13 | bikr | sold it to my mom's friend |
| 13:57.15 | bikr | first mistake |
| 13:57.15 | bikr | haha |
| 13:57.18 | YeahRight | cause my update went fine |
| 13:57.21 | bikr | oh word |
| 13:57.28 | bikr | not sure, she claims she's trying to doctor it |
| 13:57.33 | bikr | but my palm login / pass isn't working |
| 13:57.39 | bikr | maybe she's typo'ing it who knows |
| 13:57.40 | YeahRight | did she use themes? |
| 13:58.00 | YeahRight | since it seems that causes problems.. |
| 13:58.08 | bikr | hmm.. possibly |
| 13:59.42 | bikr | Hopefully she can fix it |
| 14:08.49 | EricBlade | bikr: someone was saying that the account servers are down at the moment |
| 14:08.54 | EricBlade | a couple hrs ago though |
| 14:08.58 | bikr | i was able to login to the website |
| 14:09.10 | bikr | but can't test doctor usage as i don't have a pad with me |
| 14:09.17 | bikr | but palm's site shows the device under my account |
| 14:09.17 | bikr | weird |
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| 14:13.50 | elfurbe | @dtzWill: New Xserver definitely fixes my tab key issues. Thanks! |
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| 14:30.42 | PatrickC | goes to try new xserver |
| 14:30.53 | PatrickC | I couldn't get passed the changelog screen though |
| 14:31.11 | PatrickC | rebooted to see if that fixes |
| 14:31.11 | dtzWill | PatrickC: err you couldn't? D: |
| 14:31.24 | PatrickC | no.. the button never popped up |
| 14:31.34 | PatrickC | rebooting to see if it fixes it |
| 14:31.48 | dtzWill | idk what you're saying, preware isn't letting you update? |
| 14:31.55 | dtzWill | xecutah is stuck on changelog? |
| 14:32.02 | dtzWill | you click on xserver and saw its changelog? |
| 14:32.02 | PatrickC | ^ |
| 14:32.06 | PatrickC | yes |
| 14:32.09 | dtzWill | lol 'yes' |
| 14:32.10 | dtzWill | >.< |
| 14:32.12 | dtzWill | whiiiiiiich |
| 14:32.13 | dtzWill | xD |
| 14:32.26 | PatrickC | xserver and its changelog :) |
| 14:32.50 | PatrickC | button to say "yes, I've read this" isn't visible ever (at least not before the reboot) |
| 14:32.58 | ka6sox | orly? |
| 14:33.11 | ka6sox | since for all intents and purposes its a DAEMON. |
| 14:33.15 | PatrickC | now it passed the changelog screen without me dismissing it.. after reboot |
| 14:34.51 | PatrickC | well.. it works now.. |
| 14:34.55 | PatrickC | thanks dtzWill and ka6sox |
| 14:35.02 | PatrickC | not sure what was going on.. |
| 14:38.42 | dtzWill | don't miss control/escape vkb support :3 |
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| 15:45.30 | KungPhoo | IT'S A LIE |
| 15:45.38 | KungPhoo | DON'T BELIEVE THEM |
| 15:45.55 | lolwut | Is preware feed down? |
| 15:46.09 | Soruk | Argh. palm-package is automagically determining my package should be of type all when it should be armv7, and I see no option on how to set this. |
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| 15:47.24 | PatrickC | dtzWill: yes. I'm on 3.0.4, no I haven't tested tab yet (been real busy :) |
| 15:47.30 | PatrickC | I'll test and let you know :) |
| 15:47.54 | dtzWill | np at all, i'm stepping out now. enjoy :) |
| 15:48.33 | lolwut | Because preware won't update for me |
| 15:48.58 | lolwut | not a big deal...just curious |
| 15:49.05 | lolwut | is it on my end? |
| 15:49.35 | PatrickC | lolwut: what device? Os version? |
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| 15:50.28 | lolwut | Touchpad, WebOS 3.0.4 |
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| 15:51.17 | PatrickC | whats it not doing? |
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| 15:51.27 | lolwut | Should I reinstall preware? |
| 15:51.48 | lolwut | it just has an endless feed loading loop |
| 15:51.48 | PatrickC | first, what's it not doing? |
| 15:51.59 | lolwut | Not loading the feeds. |
| 15:52.05 | PatrickC | does it say "reading saved package list" and won't go? |
| 15:52.14 | lolwut | I'll check... |
| 15:53.27 | lolwut | Gets stuck on "downloading feed information" |
| 15:53.52 | PatrickC | reboot first |
| 15:54.11 | PatrickC | if that doesn't fix it, check internet connection, then idk what to do after that :) |
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| 16:34.45 | *** topic/#webos-internals is Discussion about webOS internals (not webOS SDK usage or anything to do with Android). Use #webos-general for off-topic stuff. Honor all NDAs, licenses, carrier agreements and copyrights. Twitter: @webosinternals Logs: logs.nslu2-linux.org Wiki: www.webos-internals.org Preware: www.preware.org Patches: patches.webos-internals.org Testing Feed: testing.preware.org |
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| 16:38.30 | keithk | Since webOS upgrade last night to VER-3.0.4 anytime Preware loads up and trys  to connect to feeds it gets a massive amount of errors and will revert to the saved list and says the apps which are installed are unknown. I have checked all apps still work & reinstalled preware but it remains the same. Any Help is greatly appreciated. Regards, Keith. |
| 16:38.55 | keithk | CAN ANYONE PLZ HELP |
| 16:39.09 | keithk | She about the CAPS |
| 16:39.42 | keithk | just really annoyed with webOS update destroying my preware feeds |
| 16:41.58 | keithk | got disconnected |
| 16:42.08 | roadkill | I would imagine since it's only one day since the update, the folks here are working on it. |
| 16:42.29 | keithk | anyone able to people has anyone else got the same problem? |
| 16:42.50 | keithk | Thx for the reply roadkill |
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| 16:43.57 | keithk | pain in the #$** this happened and reinstall will not fix |
| 16:44.14 | jimzz | until today my Debian session worked in portrait no,w all x sessions go landscape ;HP touchpad |
| 16:44.21 | keithk | nor will Emergency recovery |
| 16:45.52 | ka6sox-away | Must all problems be resolved @ microwave cooking speed? I mean sheesh...<24hrs since the problem occured and people are having kittens. |
| 16:45.57 | keithk | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.15 | keithk | yes I'm aware its only 24hours |
| 16:46.25 | ka6sox-away | then WHY are you having kittens? |
| 16:46.41 | keithk | I'm not having kittens |
| 16:47.09 | keithk | just wanted to see if anyone else is in the same boat |
| 16:47.19 | ka6sox | we are ALL volunteers here. and we all have lives outside this too...things will get resolved ASAP. |
| 16:47.53 | keithk | Ok my bad if it sounded like a rant at anyone |
| 16:47.59 | ka6sox | and yes, 3.0.4 upgrade makes some significant changes. |
| 16:48.08 | keithk | Not intended to sound like that at all |
| 16:48.51 | keithk | just hoped someone had a fix - yes I know its early days |
| 16:49.44 | keithk | Full apology if I sound like I was tryin to blame anyone |
| 16:50.30 | ka6sox | no early fixes...this is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade...with underlying structural changes that will require things to be worked out. |
| 16:51.23 | keithk | thanks very much for that +ka6sox |
| 16:51.32 | ka6sox | the version of node, for example is like 20versions ahead of the previous one. |
| 16:51.46 | ka6sox | and that alone will be "interesting" to sort out. |
| 16:51.57 | keithk | that's nice to know its not my own problem |
| 16:52.07 | keithk | cheers :-) |
| 16:52.18 | ka6sox | you bet |
| 16:52.38 | PatrickC | ka6sox: they upgraded node that much? wow |
| 16:52.47 | keithk | if I use preware from a laptop in the meantime that would be ok |
| 16:53.00 | PatrickC | like webOSQuickInstall? |
| 16:53.28 | ka6sox | PatrickC, what does webOSQuickInstall have to do with changes in the fundamental OS changes? |
| 16:53.35 | keithk | like it would be as if everything was 100% on the touch pad |
| 16:53.45 | keithk | ? |
| 16:53.49 | PatrickC | keithk: said he would use "preware" from a laptop |
| 16:53.53 | ka6sox | keithk, unknown what apps are able to be upgrade. |
| 16:54.04 | ka6sox | preware is not used from a laptop. |
| 16:54.12 | ka6sox | evah |
| 16:54.40 | PatrickC | which is why I said webos qi |
| 16:54.47 | keithk | that's how I put it initially |
| 16:54.56 | ka6sox | the apps may or may NOT be even 3.0.4 compatible |
| 16:55.05 | ka6sox | especially if they use node services |
| 16:55.08 | keithk | or am I mistaken? |
| 16:55.25 | ka6sox | keithk, best thing for now....be patient and let the devs sort it out. |
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| 16:55.42 | ka6sox | pushing for a *NOW* solution for TODAY is not going to help. |
| 16:55.50 | PatrickC | ka6sox: it seems to be intermitant though. |
| 16:55.59 | PatrickC | as preware works on my touchpad |
| 16:56.11 | keithk | will do +ka6sox, thanks again for the info :-) |
| 16:56.23 | ka6sox | PatrickC, intermittent or not...it needs to be sorted out....given time. |
| 16:56.30 | PatrickC | yep |
| 16:56.32 | ka6sox | which I am not seeing here. |
| 16:57.09 | PatrickC | learned from 2.2.3 to give the devs time :) |
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| 17:01.22 | fr0ggie | Ive not installed 3.0.4 just downloaded it- what exactly breaks with it? |
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| 17:04.18 | keithk | For my Ranting like posts I am going to donate some very well deserved money to Preware now :-) |
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| 17:09.40 | M25 | fr0ggie: it breaks a lot of patches and custom kernels, most are easily fixable by reinstalling each patch/kernel. Also, it resets your system log configs, so if you've sped it up by disabling logs, you'll have to do that over again |
| 17:10.12 | M25 | fr0ggie: it is, in my testing, noticeably faster than 3.0.2 in a lot of places; the contacts app is now lag-free |
| 17:11.40 | keithk | M25 you mentioned it may be possible to put things back manually |
| 17:12.10 | M25 | keithk: I've got my system back to where it was with the exception of a few patches which have disappeared from the feeds |
| 17:12.20 | keithk | would custom CPU thresholds be included? |
| 17:12.20 | PatrickC | M25: I've noticed the speed improvements too |
| 17:12.37 | M25 | actually, that's why I'm here: does anyone know where the Custom Browser Gestures patch has gone? I loved the fullscreen mode it gave, but it's disappeared from preware |
| 17:12.57 | PatrickC | M25: give the devs time to port :) |
| 17:13.02 | ka6sox | M25, patches are OS version Specific..and if they have not been tested they aren't marked for use on a new Version. |
| 17:13.07 | PatrickC | ~waitforhomebrew |
| 17:13.07 | infobot | well, waitforhomebrew is https://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/126381753337253888 |
| 17:13.19 | M25 | ka6sox: gotcha. |
| 17:13.23 | PatrickC | loves infobot :) |
| 17:13.26 | M25 | I'm on the testing feeds, will they show up there first? |
| 17:13.35 | PatrickC | possibly |
| 17:13.46 | PatrickC | also loves webos internals! |
| 17:13.50 | PatrickC | :) |
| 17:14.18 | fr0ggie | Hmm |
| 17:14.23 | summatusmentis | I think you mean The WebOS Internals |
| 17:14.49 | PatrickC | its "The WebOS Internals"? I thought it was just "webOS Internals" :P |
| 17:15.13 | fr0ggie | Any ideas what happen to the xserver? Now whenever i launch an app. it always goes landscape, which really is useless |
| 17:15.29 | M25 | fr0ggie: that was updated this morning, also some new keybindings |
| 17:15.34 | fr0ggie | Ugh. |
| 17:15.36 | M25 | makes ctrl and esc really easy to get |
| 17:15.44 | PatrickC | fr0ggie: I think the fix is currently being tested in the alpha feeds |
| 17:15.49 | fr0ggie | Ahh |
| 17:16.00 | M25 | um, it's at least in Beta, I'm not on alpha and I've got it |
| 17:16.07 | M25 | works like a charm |
| 17:16.10 | keithk | the threshold for the CPU I am trying to put back in place is on this page - http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/267962,top-5-tips-for-tweaking-tuning-and-speeding-up-your-hp-touchpad.aspx |
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| 17:16.19 | fr0ggie | M25: you have touchpad? |
| 17:16.35 | keithk | should that still work |
| 17:16.59 | M25 | fr0ggie: yep, got it in the firesale, 16GB model with a sunken home button but gestures replace that just fine |
| 17:17.03 | fr0ggie | I just got my debian chroot cozy and get a good fisting (: |
| 17:17.15 | M25 | ...what? |
| 17:17.47 | fr0ggie | xfce, etc all nice and cozy, but then get stuck in landscape (where keyboard pushes apps off screen irrecoverably) |
| 17:18.22 | M25 | yeah. Honestly, if I'm going to use X11, I usually disable the keyboard entirely and switch to bluetooth |
| 17:18.41 | fr0ggie | I dont have blueteeth :( |
| 17:19.08 | fr0ggie | I just use the tall mode where keyboard only uses a little under 1/4 real-estate vs a little over 1/3 |
| 17:19.17 | M25 | I like the tall mode |
| 17:19.31 | M25 | also, if you want bluetooth keyboards, check your local Goodwill |
| 17:19.37 | fr0ggie | M25: happen to know if its xserver or xecutah needs updated to fix this regression? |
| 17:19.41 | M25 | I got one for $3.50 |
| 17:19.56 | fr0ggie | M25: they have no technology, i live in the woods where people eat each other and sleep with their cousins :( |
| 17:20.05 | M25 | fr0ggie: the only update I got was xorg (which is weird) but just that fixed it |
| 17:20.10 | M25 | xserver that is |
| 17:20.35 | fr0ggie | I see.. i just hit update all and couldnt remember which it was of the two, but it broke it for me :P |
| 17:21.17 | fr0ggie | Think its best to hold off a few days on actually installing the 3.0.4 update? got it downloaded |
| 17:26.28 | keithk | hold off frogie |
| 17:27.04 | keithk | But that's just my opinion |
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| 17:27.42 | fr0ggie | im going to be restoring soon anyways,so i can build a custom image which will restore all my stuff how ive (kinda) decided i wish it to be |
| 17:27.52 | fr0ggie | I quite like webos compared to my android phone. I hate that thing |
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| 17:27.54 | keithk | Thanks for the confirmation about the patches folks, talk to you again hopefully |
| 17:27.55 | M25 | fr0ggie: you mean Alabama? |
| 17:28.24 | fr0ggie | M25: eh no, im in virginia right now |
| 17:28.30 | M25 | :P I grew up in Atlanta |
| 17:28.45 | fr0ggie | its funny people talk so bad about wv.. All the inbreds are on the VA side of the border, not the wv |
| 17:28.55 | directhex | hm. gstreamer and mjason updated in 3.0.4. i'll try some gst hacking again soonish |
| 17:29.25 | M25 | btw, can anyone tell me who the dev for the Custom Browser Gestures is? |
| 17:29.55 | fr0ggie | Are there other keyboards? I wish there were arrow keys so bad |
| 17:30.13 | M25 | fr0ggie: not that I've found. I want one without the number keys myself. |
| 17:32.54 | dwc- | M25: patches.webos-internals.org, browse, etc. |
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| 17:33.49 | M25 | dwc-: I mean the irc handle of the dev |
| 17:35.01 | dwc- | should be there |
| 17:35.23 | dwc- | theirs matches, iirc |
| 17:36.21 | M25 | dwc-: for 3.0.2, yes. Not in 3.0.4. I want to know who the dev is so I can bug him to update it :P |
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| 17:38.20 | dwc- | yes, the dev should be listed there |
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| 17:42.39 | M25 | ah! thank you :) |
| 17:43.18 | Daemon42 | Something is causing some confusion in the forums. Rod tweeted that Uberkernel 3.0.4-68 was just built on 3.0.4 source and released into beta feed. But the last updated date shows 9/23/11, and there's been no mention of an update in the "official" Uberkernel thread I was told we should be following. |
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| 17:44.23 | Daemon42 | Just an oversight on the date? |
| 17:45.48 | ka6sox | Daemon42, which feeds do you have enabled? |
| 17:47.21 | Daemon42 | I have only the beta feed (not alpha). It shows v68. |
| 17:48.24 | fr0ggie | goes back to trying to install PDK on webos ;) |
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| 18:35.41 | dtzWill | fr0ggie: what's the issue with xserver you're seeing? |
| 18:36.06 | dtzWill | oh you and M25 were commenting on how portrait mode was broken in 3.0.4 |
| 18:36.11 | dtzWill | not much to be done about that, sorry |
| 18:36.17 | dtzWill | i mean in terms of things that break post-update |
| 18:36.27 | dtzWill | anyway, that's fixed in the beta feeds |
| 18:36.43 | dtzWill | along with tab not working, 'alt' compat fixes, and vkb support for control+esc |
| 18:36.56 | dtzWill | as soon as > 1 person gets back to me that it works i can promote it to main feed :) |
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| 18:45.14 | wrea | woo, tab |
| 18:46.18 | dtzWill | hehe yep |
| 18:46.55 | wrea | I really dont feel like calling palm |
| 18:47.47 | ka6sox | wrea, nobody does. |
| 18:48.11 | wrea | I can only imagine why :P |
| 18:51.14 | wrea | Its a toss up whether I'd want to call them or get kicked in the crotch |
| 18:52.45 | dtzWill | that sucks |
| 18:52.53 | dtzWill | i think i'd question what i did wrong in life that that was a serious choice to make |
| 18:52.57 | dtzWill | with those being the only two options |
| 18:52.58 | dtzWill | :P |
| 18:53.09 | dtzWill | is intentionally dense for his own amusement |
| 18:54.05 | wrea | I'm still pretty amazed at my situation. They have my phone for over a month, lied to me throughout and return it to me unfixed. |
| 18:55.00 | dtzWill | that's |
| 18:55.01 | dtzWill | wait |
| 18:55.01 | dtzWill | WHAT |
| 18:55.05 | dtzWill | hahaha |
| 18:55.06 | dtzWill | i |
| 18:55.13 | dtzWill | i'm not laughing at you i promise, that's just absurd. |
| 18:55.19 | dtzWill | unfixed?? o_____O |
| 18:55.24 | dtzWill | did they claim it was fixed? |
| 18:55.33 | wrea | Dont worry, my friend was laughing too |
| 18:55.42 | wrea | Yeah |
| 18:56.03 | wrea | They just stuck a different screen protector on it |
| 18:59.05 | Loudergood | wow...that's worse than refusing to fix it at all |
| 19:03.10 | wrea | Yeah :\ |
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| 19:42.43 | bedrock | anyone updated their WIDK environment to Ubuntu 11.10 yet? does it work ok? |
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| 20:31.26 | LordApocolypse | Hello |
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| 20:38.57 | mputtr | Hi, webos newbie here |
| 20:39.47 | mputtr | i'd like to know how to do a backup of all the stuff i have on webos, mainly the apps and saved data. |
| 20:40.25 | panel | hi www.precentral.net/backup |
| 20:40.36 | mputtr | thank you. i'll take ar ead on it |
| 20:42.49 | mputtr | when i do a webosdoctor, will i lose all the stuff in the media partition? |
| 20:43.24 | panel | i'm not so sure |
| 20:43.28 | panel | but count with it |
| 20:44.01 | mputtr | ok. so i guess i should plug it in to usb mode and transfer everything in the media partition to a hdd and bring it back in after the doctor? |
| 20:44.16 | panel | yes |
| 20:44.40 | mputtr | ok i'll do that as well |
| 20:45.08 | panel | mainly read backup manual on precentral webpage |
| 20:45.28 | mputtr | that's the link you just posted just nwo right? |
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| 21:19.42 | panel | yes |
| 21:20.36 | mputtr | got it |
| 21:21.51 | mputtr | i went to preware and saved package list |
| 21:22.08 | mputtr | is there a specific place where it is located? |
| 21:23.30 | panel | http://www.precentral.net/backing-your-application-data-settings-save-restore-homebrew |
| 21:23.44 | panel | you have to read |
| 21:23.57 | wrea | Read? Screw that :P |
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| 21:25.22 | panel | mputtr i think that if you do webosdoctoring you dont need package list |
| 21:25.28 | mputtr | oh? |
| 21:25.40 | mputtr | i was hoping to just webosdoctoring |
| 21:25.52 | mputtr | i screwed up some files while trying to get the thai language keyboard layout |
| 21:26.03 | panel | you will have fresh empty device |
| 21:26.08 | mputtr | so i wanted to kind of recovering the original file setup |
| 21:26.22 | panel | try in preware search for |
| 21:26.34 | panel | emergency " |
| 21:26.37 | mputtr | that's fine for me, i just want to be able to repeat the operation so that i can provide the right instructions for my mom |
| 21:26.51 | panel | there are some utilities |
| 21:27.05 | mputtr | preware-->emergency. ok |
| 21:27.35 | mputtr | i'll do that first then |
| 21:28.08 | panel | i don't know names, but "emergency" will find it |
| 21:28.24 | mputtr | no problem i can try and follow up on that |
| 21:28.36 | mputtr | i dont expect people to lead me through everything by my hand :) |
| 21:29.40 | mputtr | i have filecache wipe, file verification, patch installer, patch recovery, reconstruction utility and service enable. |
| 21:29.45 | mputtr | i'm assuming it's reconstruction utility |
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| 22:02.41 | mputtr | wierd.. |
| 22:02.41 | mputtr | i just doctored my device |
| 22:02.41 | mputtr | and i tried running webos quickinstall |
| 22:02.49 | panel | and ? |
| 22:02.51 | mputtr | and it says no devices currently connected |
| 22:03.01 | panel | have you enabled developer mode ? |
| 22:03.38 | mputtr | ah that might be it |
| 22:03.43 | mputtr | i completely forgot |
| 22:04.10 | panel | mee too |
| 22:04.11 | mputtr | lol |
| 22:04.15 | mputtr | silly me |
| 22:04.19 | panel | today I was webosdoctoring my pre2 |
| 22:04.53 | panel | i pray for continuous electricity :) |
| 22:05.07 | mputtr | phew |
| 22:05.14 | mputtr | continuous electricity? |
| 22:05.27 | mputtr | bam! |
| 22:05.29 | mputtr | working agian |
| 22:05.29 | panel | last week we had blackout |
| 22:05.33 | mputtr | reinstalling all my stuff |
| 22:05.35 | mputtr | ahh |
| 22:05.41 | mputtr | that sucks |
| 22:05.52 | mputtr | i'm a little worried about home though.. 1/3 of thailand is underwater atm |
| 22:05.52 | panel | but doctoring was successfull |
| 22:06.06 | panel | i have to do it on notebook next time |
| 22:06.11 | mputtr | the dam that protects bkk is overflown now :( |
| 22:06.22 | mputtr | good thing it was successful |
| 22:06.30 | panel | going to bed |
| 22:06.31 | panel | bye |
| 22:06.36 | mputtr | cya |
| 22:06.37 | mputtr | thanks again |
| 22:06.46 | panel | np |
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| 22:23.18 | waky | quelque parle francais |
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| 22:35.04 | dwc- | non moi |
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| 23:15.46 | drowl | wirc joy |
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| 23:21.11 | PatrickC | if the doctor is complaining about a read-only filesystem at 8%, how do I fix? |
| 23:21.56 | LarrySteeze | when netflix suggests "Spy kids" as a "critically-acclaimed movie," you know the world has issues. |
| 23:22.09 | PatrickC | lol |
| 23:22.18 | dwc- | or netflix thinks something about you |
| 23:22.40 | LarrySteeze | no, it's not suggesting it to me...it's just suggesting it as a critically acclaimed movie |
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| 23:23.35 | LarrySteeze | my wife seemingly only watches movies based off jane austen books, and I rarely watch netflix, so spy kids would make no sense |
| 23:23.44 | PatrickC | is trying to help someone fix their pre3 :) |
| 23:23.59 | LarrySteeze | what's wrong PatrickC? |
| 23:24.07 | PatrickC | read-only filesystem |
| 23:24.15 | PatrickC | doctor won't progress past 8% |
| 23:24.38 | LarrySteeze | if that were true, and it was truely set as read-only, it wouldn't even get to 8% |
| 23:24.47 | LarrySteeze | did you try running the doctor a second time? |
| 23:24.55 | PatrickC | yep |
| 23:25.04 | PatrickC | I have the output from the command line |
| 23:25.05 | PatrickC | lemme paste it |
| 23:25.08 | LarrySteeze | each time, it stopped at 8% |
| 23:25.09 | LarrySteeze | ? |
| 23:25.28 | PatrickC | not sure that it stops, the person gets fed up that it holds at 8% for so long |
| 23:25.41 | LarrySteeze | The Big Lebowski is certainly a classic, but I wouldn't consider it a "visually striking movie" |
| 23:26.26 | LarrySteeze | patrickc: show me the pastebin? |
| 23:26.41 | PatrickC | pasting now |
| 23:28.19 | PatrickC | http://pastie.org/2732580 |
| 23:29.32 | LarrySteeze | I'll check it out in a min |
| 23:30.10 | PatrickC | ok |
| 23:30.19 | PatrickC | and to memboot its |
| 23:30.31 | PatrickC | novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-mantaray.uImage |
| 23:30.32 | PatrickC | ? |
| 23:30.36 | PatrickC | (for the pre3) |
| 23:32.40 | PatrickC | just figured out he doesn't have the SDK installed (windows) |
| 23:32.54 | dwc- | that looks like it's attempting to wipe /media/internal |
| 23:33.06 | dwc- | look above that, see if there's anything about fs errors |
| 23:34.15 | PatrickC | that's all he could get from the command line |
| 23:34.21 | PatrickC | it wouldn't go any higher |
| 23:35.23 | PatrickC | uNiXpSyChO: f14 is amazing!! |
| 23:35.45 | uNiXpSyChO | F14? |
| 23:35.54 | PatrickC | f14* |
| 23:35.57 | PatrickC | 15* |
| 23:36.01 | PatrickC | dang.. I can't type today haha |
| 23:36.42 | rwhitby | heh, that paste looks like a recursive symlink to me |
| 23:36.57 | rwhitby | memboot then wipe media |
| 23:37.43 | PatrickC | rwhitby: ok thanks. first, I need to get novacom on his computer :) |
| 23:37.48 | PatrickC | then we'll memboot |
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| 23:42.19 | PatrickC | forgets how to wipe /media from memboot... |
| 23:42.25 | PatrickC | haven't had to do that in forever haha |
| 23:43.06 | rwhitby | assumes you're reading the recovery wiki page from top to bottom before asking questions on IRC |
| 23:43.26 | PatrickC | hasn't read that at all.. |
| 23:43.34 | PatrickC | I was going off of memory for now |
| 23:43.35 | roadkill | coughs |
| 23:43.38 | PatrickC | goes to read |
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| 23:43.46 | rwhitby | gets the banhammer out |
| 23:44.08 | rwhitby | tell me why I shouldn't use it |
| 23:44.08 | shadavis08 | howdy all |
| 23:44.19 | PatrickC | rwhitby: I was just thinking out loud |
| 23:44.53 | rwhitby | has a meeting to go to, so puts away ban hammer this time |
| 23:45.15 | Log1x | :O |
| 23:48.03 | uNiXpSyChO | tip toes back into room |
| 23:48.55 | wrea | rofl |
| 23:49.46 | PatrickC | lol |
| 23:51.32 | dwc- | but, where does one get symlinks on fat32 |
| 23:56.14 | PatrickC | who knows |
| 23:56.22 | PatrickC | I have no clue what happened to his phone lol |
| 23:57.07 | halfhalo | rm -rf solves all problems. |
| 23:57.31 | PatrickC | lol |
| 23:57.43 | jmichaelx | rm -rf * |
| 23:57.55 | jmichaelx | does it for me every time... |
| 23:58.03 | halfhalo | has done that for kicks before... |
| 23:58.24 | scoutcamper | jmichaelx, no no no, its rm -rf /boot then reboot. takes them longer to realize whats going on |
| 23:58.38 | jmichaelx | i've been tempted. i get great enjoyment out of watching youtube vids of others giving it a whirl |
| 23:58.53 | jmichaelx | scoutcamper: good point |