| 00:00.10 | dwc- | esperz1nski: no, you can turn developer mode off afterwards |
| 00:00.43 | dwc- | Guest32878: where's the instructions you're following? |
| 00:01.12 | Guest32878 | should anything happen once I type "mkir -p /var/prefe....." et al into xterm? I typed it as shown on testing feeds |
| 00:01.21 | Guest32878 | and nothing apears to happen |
| 00:01.39 | Guest32878 | I am on the webosinternas testing feeds wiki page |
| 00:01.59 | Guest32878 | but I was unsure how to run from comand line so I had to google to find out how |
| 00:02.19 | dtzWill | Guest32878: just run both those commands as listed |
| 00:02.28 | Guest32878 | I think I am ready to reinstall preware now... |
| 00:02.32 | dtzWill | Guest32878: neither command should print anything |
| 00:02.52 | Guest32878 | right..but running them appears to do nothing...I get no verifications or anything...is that right? |
| 00:02.58 | Guest32878 | ok thanks |
| 00:04.05 | dtzWill | Guest32878: np :) |
| 00:05.13 | Guest32878 | hey as a tip I recomend checking out your local tec shops clearance bins...I got a spare touchstone for 25$ in staples the other day |
| 00:06.32 | dwc- | nice |
| 00:12.56 | Guest32878 | time for a restart ..thanks again |
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| 00:24.58 | lost | back...it have the feeds liste now |
| 00:26.41 | Guest56449 | if I was to install cm7 does the overclock effect that as well? |
| 00:27.17 | Guest56449 | I don't think so but just asking |
| 00:30.39 | Guest56449 | ok..any thoughts on warthog vs f4 then? |
| 00:32.11 | dwc- | no it doesn't |
| 00:39.49 | Guest56449 | went with f4...seemed more advanced and better updated...restarting. |
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| 02:05.59 | Darkmagister | hi |
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| 04:35.19 | Icehawk78 | Is there any way to get access to sshfs on the touchpad for accessing my files on external networks? |
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| 04:41.32 | ka6sox | tmandry, pingu? |
| 04:52.47 | Icehawk78 | As an alternate, is it possible to set up the stuff needed to just run make from the tp itself? |
| 04:52.59 | Icehawk78 | Not sure other than gcc what's missing |
| 04:57.20 | tmandry | ka6sox: pong |
| 04:57.44 | ka6sox | tmandry, my machine with my creds on it had a crash...any new ipks for me to play with? |
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| 05:05.58 | rwhitby | Icehawk78: just install openssh sftp server in Preware |
| 05:06.17 | rwhitby | oh, sorry, you want the other direction |
| 05:09.21 | maxexcloo | Hey, are most patches updated for WebOS 3.04? |
| 05:09.28 | maxexcloo | I'm on 3.02 atm |
| 05:09.31 | maxexcloo | and was curious |
| 05:09.55 | dwc- | you can pull a list of available patches for each on the patch portal (link in topic) |
| 05:10.37 | maxexcloo | thanks |
| 05:10.39 | maxexcloo | :) |
| 05:17.21 | Icehawk78 | rwhitby: Yeah, ideally I want to mount my server's /media/sdb1/music folder so that all my music looks like it's local without having to copy |
| 05:17.51 | Icehawk78 | And thus accessible natively to all apps |
| 05:18.33 | Icehawk78 | It looks like the kernel already has fuse support, so it seems the only thing I need to do is compile or cross-compile sshfs for this |
| 05:19.17 | Icehawk78 | Which... isn't really working, because I don't know my head from a hole in the ground when it comes to "compiling from source without a list of copy/pastable steps" |
| 05:23.10 | rwhitby | I think someone has put sshfs in the WIDK already |
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| 05:29.06 | Icehawk78 | Huh, the setup on the wiki for cross compiling looks WAY less complicated than when I was attempting to do the same thing for android |
| 05:29.30 | Icehawk78 | If I cross-compile an app for my tp, will that also work on my Android phone, since that's also ARM? |
| 05:33.18 | jmichaelx | there are a number of different arm cpu's... doubtful your phone has the same cpu as your touchpad |
| 05:35.57 | Icehawk78 | Ah, probably not. Wasn't sure how different various types of arm cpus were |
| 05:37.08 | dwc- | depends on what cpu, compiler optimization flags, and what userspace dependencies, etc |
| 06:13.15 | hewball | i gotta say sconix knows his pulseaudio on webos devices :D |
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| 07:41.21 | ka6sox | hewball, that would be correct :D |
| 07:41.51 | hewball | his test files he gave me for usb audio switching were spot on |
| 07:42.13 | ka6sox | :D |
| 07:42.47 | ka6sox | I hope to have HDMI working soon.... |
| 07:42.51 | ka6sox | its "close" |
| 07:46.38 | hewball | awsome |
| 07:51.59 | hewball | is that via USB displaylink or something different? |
| 07:55.53 | hewball | i have been getting weird usb errors in logs are its been unplugged and replugged... 2011-10-30T07:55:06.623083Z [3779] webos-device kern.err kernel: [ 3779.996899] 14:1:1: usb_set_interface failed |
| 07:56.05 | hewball | wondering if its my hub not responding |
| 08:19.12 | jmichaelx | ka6sox: i have not been paying attention, and should have been asleep hours ago, but you have not hard-modded a touchpad and given it hdmi, have you? |
| 08:29.26 | ka6sox | no |
| 08:29.42 | ka6sox | something different...assuming it works... |
| 08:29.51 | ka6sox | has to do with OTG. |
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| 10:52.26 | zottffssen | How do I uninstall the palm SDK? |
| 10:52.33 | zottffssen | Palm forums give me 404 |
| 10:54.31 | Frost | zottffssen: I think the installer comes with an uninstall-script (at least on linux/osx it does), so if you've still got that one somewhere, you could just run the uninstaller from there. Otherwise you could just download the installer again... |
| 10:55.04 | zottffssen | I'm on OS X but I don't think that I have the installer |
| 10:55.10 | zottffssen | I'll just grab it off the wiki |
| 10:55.11 | zottffssen | thanks |
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| 13:32.44 | Soruk | got xpdf to run on the TP (native+X, not chroot)... spurred on by the standard PDF reader being utter crap. My fiancee's accounting ebooks showed as blank pages (yet the thumbnails were right) |
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| 14:22.01 | oldtopman | How do you make a chroot? |
| 14:22.12 | oldtopman | Sorry if this is offtopic |
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| 16:09.02 | Abyssul-TP | Has anyone seen this? http://www.spinics.net/lists/cpufreq/msg02558.html |
| 16:09.25 | Abyssul-TP | Palm GBU rep posting on a linux kernel forums |
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| 16:38.55 | Icehawk78 | Is it possible to edit app data in webos? And if so... how? |
| 16:39.05 | Icehawk78 | ie externally |
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| 16:53.21 | dwc- | what do you mean by app data? |
| 16:53.37 | dwc- | it's going to depend on how the app decides to store its data |
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| 16:59.45 | hmmmm | whenever i go to some website with a search feature, i get a "tap to add search engine" notification |
| 16:59.49 | hmmmm | and it just won't go away |
| 17:00.03 | hmmmm | i don't want to add it as a search engine, in fact, i don't want to add ANYTHING as a search engine |
| 17:00.11 | hmmmm | is there any patch to solve this annoyingness? |
| 17:00.18 | lennartelsner | theres a patch for that |
| 17:02.11 | hmmmm | why do you have to install patches to fix fundamentally broken UI designs or whatever |
| 17:02.15 | hmmmm | that's what i want to know |
| 17:02.21 | lennartelsner | it's called disable dashboard searchengine notifications |
| 17:03.10 | lennartelsner | it's a feature, not a bug (in my eyes) |
| 17:04.38 | hmmmm | it's a poorly designed feature.... one where you can't even say "no, i do not wish to add this as a search engine" |
| 17:04.46 | hmmmm | who came up with half this crap anyway? |
| 17:05.02 | hmmmm | even i can do a better job at pretty much everything |
| 17:06.18 | hmmmm | also, i can't update any packages from preware it seems |
| 17:07.18 | hmmmm | Failed -1: Unable to run command: IPKG_OFFLINE_ROOT=/media/cryptofs/apps /bin/sh /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/ipkg/info/webosinternals.patches.system-muffle-system-logging.prerm 2>&1 |
| 17:07.57 | dwc- | you can swipe it away |
| 17:08.07 | dwc- | and it doesn't come back |
| 17:08.09 | hmmmm | that's not a command, that's a shell builtin ;_; did HP change the default shell or something? |
| 17:08.14 | hmmmm | I want to keep my stuff up to date |
| 17:08.15 | lennartelsner | what do you expect? preware relies on a server, servers have to be paid |
| 17:08.19 | dwc- | though other websites do |
| 17:08.53 | dwc- | hmmmm: what's the rest of the error |
| 17:09.15 | dwc- | lennartelsner: that error has nothing to do with a server being up or down |
| 17:09.24 | hmmmm | then i tjust goes into a loop of "Ureversed patch detected! Ignore -R? [n]" |
| 17:09.38 | hmmmm | Apply anyway? [n] |
| 17:09.51 | hmmmm | 12 out of 12 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file etc/PmLog.conf.rej |
| 17:09.52 | dwc- | saved packages list, then install emergency patch recovery |
| 17:10.04 | lennartelsner | i wrote the msg when he didnt report the error;) |
| 17:10.18 | hmmmm | how do i save the package list? |
| 17:10.42 | lennartelsner | its saved automatically |
| 17:10.44 | dwc- | preware, dropdown menu |
| 17:11.08 | dwc- | and update |
| 17:12.30 | hmmmm | alright |
| 17:12.41 | hmmmm | and emergency patch recovery... is that built in or another package i need to install? |
| 17:13.17 | hmmmm | got it |
| 17:13.50 | hmmmm | uh oh what is this doing... it replaced the /etc/hosts with the "original file" |
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| 17:13.58 | hmmmm | which means my ad blocking was reversed |
| 17:14.05 | hmmmm | what is this emergency patch recovery actually doing? |
| 17:14.14 | dwc- | yep, that is why you updated your saved packages list |
| 17:14.19 | dwc- | so you can use it to reinstall-all |
| 17:15.18 | hmmmm | what i want to know is why the package manager broke in the first place |
| 17:15.39 | dwc- | the OTA replaced some files in a patch, but not others |
| 17:15.48 | dwc- | so it's not a clean removal or install |
| 17:15.59 | hmmmm | so this should be standard procedure after an OTA? |
| 17:16.02 | dwc- | you could fix it from the terminal by selectively fixing |
| 17:16.07 | dwc- | patching by hand |
| 17:16.10 | hmmmm | i'd rather not |
| 17:16.14 | dwc- | but for most people this is easier |
| 17:16.32 | hmmmm | also, does running Xterm drain your battery life quicker? |
| 17:16.36 | hmmmm | i think that's something i've noticed |
| 17:16.59 | hmmmm | battery seems to last forever when i don't have an xterm open |
| 17:17.37 | hmmmm | hmm so now how do i reinstall-all? |
| 17:17.52 | hmmmm | ipkg-opt reinstall-all? |
| 17:19.19 | dwc- | go back to the saved package list (don't update the list this time) |
| 17:19.41 | hmmmm | and then Install Alll? |
| 17:19.50 | dwc- | yup |
| 17:20.27 | hmmmm | well, at least fixing webos was more pleasant than expected |
| 17:20.30 | hmmmm | i did it all from within luna |
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| 17:20.46 | hmmmm | uh oh |
| 17:20.51 | hmmmm | IPKG LOG |
| 17:21.03 | hmmmm | bunch of stuff seems fine |
| 17:21.28 | hmmmm | then once again when i get to Postinst i get the same command that failed before |
| 17:21.46 | hmmmm | this is the org.webosinternals.patches.browser-private-browsing |
| 17:22.04 | hmmmm | so i take it that patch is broken? |
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| 17:29.14 | dwc- | hmm, I odn't use that patch, and I'm on 3.0.4, so I'm not sure |
| 17:29.18 | dwc- | s/on/not on/ |
| 17:29.35 | fudge_ | anyone having trouble with Govnah reporting stock 600mhz instead of the overclocked speed on the pixi? |
| 17:30.52 | fudge_ | heh, all of a sudden it works |
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| 22:20.01 | rwhitby | amazing the number of people having trouble with patching that don't go to the "Important Notes" in the patching section of the Preware Homebrew Documentation app, which has a pointer to the exact solution they need ... |
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| 22:33.58 | NuttyBunny_Pre3 | rwhitby: Many people hasn't even bought the documentation app |
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| 22:37.09 | EricBlade-TP | anyone else mess with TIDE ? is it putting the cursor in the wrong location for others? |
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| 22:40.10 | rwhitby | NuttyBunny_Pre3: they need to fix that omission then ;) |
| 22:43.09 | PuffTheMagic | EricBlade-TP, depending on the font you choose it has some issues |
| 22:43.38 | PuffTheMagic | sorry font and size |
| 22:43.50 | PuffTheMagic | there are a few combinations that are not correct for some reason |
| 22:43.57 | EricBlade-TP | on the default Lucida Console, my cursor appears in one spot, but when I enter input, it ends up in another spot |
| 22:44.05 | EricBlade-TP | suggestions for functional font setting? |
| 22:44.22 | PuffTheMagic | what size is it set to |
| 22:44.28 | PuffTheMagic | i think 16 and 18 are the bad ones |
| 22:44.35 | EricBlade-TP | default 12 |
| 22:45.14 | PuffTheMagic | install bitstream mono then from preware |
| 22:45.19 | PuffTheMagic | or some better font |
| 22:46.32 | EricBlade-TP | hmm. i bumped it to 14, and it works in regular text, but when i load a js with highlighting, it goes off again |
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| 22:52.38 | EricBlade-TP | no love with the bitstream font either. oh well, thanks though |
| 23:00.24 | fudge_ | anyone have any pixi parts they can sell me? |
| 23:14.23 | jacques | I have a wing and an ear I would part with. |
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| 23:19.28 | ka6sox | anyone have a digitizer for a Pixi/Pixi+ (like a phone that is no longer in use) |
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| 23:39.44 | jj_ | preware |
| 23:42.34 | fudge_ | lol wut |
| 23:44.31 | ka6sox | fudge_, great ideas you have...look forward to seeing them! |
| 23:51.51 | ka6sox | hewball, ping? |
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