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| 01:55.39 | hiddenpremise | first stable homebrew app awaiting moderation :D woot! |
| 01:56.12 | wrea | the proxy app? |
| 01:56.43 | hiddenpremise | no, actually, had some problems with the proxy app. It works for me, but not quite ready for prime time…. maybe this weekend. |
| 01:57.02 | hiddenpremise | this one is for the folks dual booting, it lets you manage the moboot bootloader settings from within webos |
| 01:57.15 | hiddenpremise | you can choose your default os and a temporary default for directing booting on your next restart |
| 02:00.20 | hiddenpremise | … *sheepish* i forgot to checkin my working version of the proxy app and forged ahead with code… screwed stuff up… and there's no going back |
| 02:01.48 | wrea | hehe |
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| 02:02.09 | wrea | I have android on mine, but i havent booted into it since the first day |
| 02:02.22 | wrea | But an app to manage moboot in general would be cool |
| 02:02.28 | hiddenpremise | check this out http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/305948-cyboot-manage-moboot-settings-android-dual-boot.html#post3233991 |
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| 02:02.59 | hiddenpremise | the cyanogen team is great for their port, but I hate how it defaults to android. my tp is a webos device :D |
| 02:03.08 | wrea | Yeah |
| 02:04.18 | rwhitby | echo -n "webOS" > /boot/moboot.default |
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| 02:04.33 | hiddenpremise | gotta mount the /boot as rw first right? |
| 02:04.44 | rwhitby | yes |
| 02:04.59 | hiddenpremise | that's pretty much what my app does |
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| 02:25.03 | voxadam | Is it possible to make a Sprint Pre work on the Verizon network? |
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| 02:30.38 | rwhitby | Ring up Verizon and ask them to add the MEID |
| 02:31.14 | voxadam | None of the firmware needs to be changed? |
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| 02:34.38 | rwhitby | no idea |
| 02:35.00 | rwhitby | you'd be better off buying a verizon Pre+ on ebay or something |
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| 03:04.31 | hpremise-away | voxadam: craigslist it man, you might be able to do an even trade |
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| 03:20.39 | kyle3om | can someone explain something about patches. i'm having an issue with conflicting patches and I'm manually editing the patches to not conflict |
| 03:22.16 | kyle3om | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.56 | kyle3om | i thought it was the number of lines from the top of the file, but does it index at zero or 1? |
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| 04:19.03 | dwc- | line 1 is 1, iirc |
| 04:19.13 | dwc- | and yes it's line # in the before/after |
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| 11:29.45 | Darkmagister | anyone can help me to use jquery on a mojo app ??? i have added jquery on source.json, include it before mojo on index.html |
| 11:30.11 | Darkmagister | but i don't know where i have to put the var jQuery = var jQuery.noConflict(); |
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| 13:04.53 | Eearslya | Is there any way to remove all patches on the system, even when they aren't showing up in Preware? |
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| 13:15.45 | Eearslya | Nobody here, then? |
| 13:15.57 | jtrucks | Eearslya: there are lots of people here. :) |
| 13:15.59 | lennartelsner | not rly |
| 13:17.12 | jtrucks | Eearslya: I don't know if there's an easy way to do it, but perhaps investigate Emergency Patch Recovery (EPR) to see if it does what you nedd |
| 13:17.15 | jtrucks | er need |
| 13:17.52 | Eearslya | Alright, thanks. Maybe you can help me with this too: Where can I find the doctor for 2.1.0 on the pre plus? I did it a long time ago and have had 2.1.0 for a while, and when I got a new 2.1.0 doctor, it said my phone wasn't compatible, even though I still have 2.1.0 on it now. |
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| 13:20.08 | jtrucks | what provider? |
| 13:20.12 | Eearslya | VZW. |
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| 13:22.03 | jtrucks | http://ws.hpwebos.com/webosdoctor/sorry.htm |
| 13:22.15 | jtrucks | that help? |
| 13:24.20 | Eearslya | Nope, because it asks for my serial number, then throws me a 1.4.5.1 doctor. |
| 13:24.40 | jtrucks | oh... |
| 13:24.43 | jtrucks | I see |
| 13:24.56 | Frost | the wiki might have such links |
| 13:25.07 | Eearslya | That's where I got the 2.1.0 doctor. |
| 13:27.43 | jtrucks | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Doctor_Versions has 2.1.0 for non-VZW Pre Plus systems... |
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| 13:29.34 | Eearslya | Where? |
| 13:31.00 | jtrucks | http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Doctor_Versions#Pre_Plus and http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Doctor_Versions#Pre_Plus_3 |
| 13:32.45 | Eearslya | Ah. |
| 13:34.54 | Eearslya | EPR did what I wanted, too. Thanks. |
| 13:35.40 | Eearslya | So, one more thing. Ever since I doctored, there were a few apps that I canceled downloading. They still show up in the launcher, transparent with an empty download circle. How do I get rid of those? |
| 13:36.13 | jtrucks | I have no idea. they are there because they are in the download list... |
| 13:36.28 | jtrucks | maybe go delete/remove them in the catalog/update apps? |
| 13:38.13 | Eearslya | Nope. I've gone into the software manager and done "Delete Paused Downloads". |
| 13:38.28 | jtrucks | :( |
| 13:38.31 | jtrucks | dunno then. |
| 13:38.42 | Lazar_Dobrescu | orange-click doesnt let you remove either? |
| 13:39.14 | Eearslya | No, just pauses there for a second, then the light goes away, no menu appears. |
| 13:39.52 | Eearslya | But I can move them around all I like. |
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| 13:56.10 | RagingMind | Eearslya, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade |
| 13:56.18 | RagingMind | you have to *make* a doctor |
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| 15:06.30 | joe___ | preware on my touchpad is hanging on reading saved package list. What can I do to fix this? |
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| 16:28.20 | semprance | Hi, I have a homebrew question. Anyone around? |
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| 16:33.32 | scoutcamper | ~asktoask |
| 16:33.32 | infobot | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 16:34.15 | semprance | OK |
| 16:34.35 | semprance | Has anything changed with regards to unjailing JS services in 3.0.4? My homebrew that worked prior to the update has all stopped working |
| 16:34.46 | grep_awesome | yes |
| 16:34.57 | grep_awesome | node.js was updated |
| 16:35.43 | semprance | I'm using a script similar to the one found in Editah, that modifies the run-js-service script to turn the jail off. It seems when I run my apps that they're still jailed. |
| 16:35.46 | semprance | How would the node update affect it? |
| 16:36.38 | grep_awesome | the installer could have overwritten the dbus files in /var/palm/ls2/services/pub|prv |
| 16:36.43 | semprance | after the update, the existing homebrew installs were fine. It was only after I uninstalled and reinstalled one that it stopped working. |
| 16:36.59 | semprance | I've hceked them and they're correctly replaced with the json in my service dir |
| 16:37.02 | semprance | *checked |
| 16:37.13 | semprance | As is the dbus file pointing to the custom run-js-service file |
| 16:37.29 | grep_awesome | so you checked the dbus files in the ls2 dir? |
| 16:37.33 | semprance | yes |
| 16:37.44 | semprance | priveliged with inbound * outbound * etc... |
| 16:37.50 | semprance | *privileged |
| 16:38.39 | grep_awesome | the privs are the roles folder, but you definitely checked the services folders for the exec path? |
| 16:39.05 | grep_awesome | did you also look for dups? like com.myapp.service and com.myapp.service.service |
| 16:39.12 | semprance | yeah |
| 16:39.24 | semprance | uhoh |
| 16:39.25 | semprance | there are dups |
| 16:39.29 | grep_awesome | yep... :) |
| 16:39.32 | semprance | with only one "service" |
| 16:39.36 | semprance | how did they get there?! |
| 16:39.44 | grep_awesome | the app when you re-installed it |
| 16:39.48 | grep_awesome | kill 'em |
| 16:40.21 | semprance | rm the one with just ".service"? |
| 16:40.34 | semprance | (instead of ".service.service" i mean |
| 16:40.38 | grep_awesome | yeah, then run " /usr/bin/luna-send -n 1 palm://${ID}/__quit '{}' " replacing ${ID} with the com notation of your service |
| 16:41.02 | grep_awesome | or set ID=com.YOURSERVICEHERE |
| 16:41.05 | grep_awesome | either works |
| 16:41.23 | semprance | sod it, I'll luna restart ... |
| 16:41.44 | semprance | thanks for the help, I never would have noticed that. Do I need to add something to my script to kill these extra files? |
| 16:42.08 | grep_awesome | is the app that you reinstalled a homebrew app that you wrote? |
| 16:43.18 | semprance | yeah |
| 16:44.09 | grep_awesome | so I actually leave the dups on my system, but I overwrite them. I run through my pmPostInstall which writes the .service.service ones, then I run the ls-controll scan-services command, then I overwrite the dups with someting like |
| 16:44.09 | grep_awesome | /bin/cp -f $SERVICES_PATH/dbus /var/palm/ls2/services/pub/$ID |
| 16:44.09 | grep_awesome | /bin/cp -f $SERVICES_PATH/dbus /var/palm/ls2/services/prv/$ID |
| 16:44.53 | semprance | ah so copy dbus over both versions with the scan in between |
| 16:45.00 | grep_awesome | yeah, that's what I did |
| 16:45.12 | grep_awesome | but you prob could just as easily rm them |
| 16:45.50 | semprance | Seeing as it was recognising them over the .service.service ones, I'm thinking overwrite for now |
| 16:46.12 | semprance | woo id=0 |
| 16:46.16 | grep_awesome | :) |
| 16:46.17 | semprance | thanks! |
| 16:46.27 | grep_awesome | welcome. man this bug drove me nuts until I figured it out |
| 17:10.07 | semprance | hmm the rm after scan didn't work |
| 17:10.12 | semprance | trying your method now |
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| 17:13.52 | grep_awesome | semprance: if necessary, I can drop my postinst/pmPostInstall into a pastebin for you to compare |
| 17:15.53 | semprance | yeah if you don't mind, I can't get it to work with cp either |
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| 17:16.04 | semprance | seems like it's always replaced with a version with run-js-service in... |
| 17:16.58 | semprance | lmao, I was changing the wrong file |
| 17:17.24 | semprance | all these pmPostInstall.script files 8-$ |
| 17:17.59 | grep_awesome | lol :) happens to the best of us |
| 17:18.26 | grep_awesome | pastebin.com/SNzAAP4n (Heavily relies upon Rod's code from the Hello app) if you still want it |
| 17:19.37 | semprance | cool that looks roughly the same as mine |
| 17:19.44 | semprance | now I'm editing the correct file, hopefully it will work |
| 17:21.58 | grep_awesome | your pmPostInstall.script and your postinst are the same right? |
| 17:25.15 | semprance | huh? o_O |
| 17:25.44 | semprance | I just have a pmPostInstall.script added via ar |
| 17:26.41 | semprance | either way, it's working now I've made changes based on your code. Thanks again. |
| 17:27.11 | grep_awesome | no prob :) |
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| 18:47.37 | Abyssul | website down? |
| 18:48.40 | ka6sox-away | yes |
| 18:48.49 | ka6sox-away | working on it. |
| 18:49.11 | Abyssul | Just curious. |
| 18:49.22 | Abyssul | cached copies from Google dont even work lol |
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| 19:12.39 | dwc- | use text only cache copies |
| 19:13.15 | Abyssul | Yeah I got that |
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| 19:13.52 | Abyssul | Jeez, it feels like Im spamming the forums when I log in. |
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| 19:47.55 | benklop | hey guys, for some reason all my apps have just disappeared, including all homebrew apps |
| 19:48.36 | dwc- | phone wiped? |
| 19:49.17 | elpollodiablo1 | rwhitby: seems like the webos-internals server is down |
| 19:49.30 | scoutcamper | elpollodiablo1, it is |
| 19:49.31 | benklop | touchpad actually, and no, all my files are still there, and through novaterm it looks like the files are stil lthere |
| 19:49.40 | scoutcamper | elpollodiablo1, but feeds are still up |
| 19:50.20 | elpollodiablo1 | scoutcamper: thanks, I was trying to looking through git, that is how I noticed. |
| 19:51.52 | benklop | when i look at 'mount', i see the webosinternals stuff mounted |
| 19:51.59 | benklop | but no other apps |
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| 19:58.46 | AtomicPlayboy | Is webos-internals.org reachable for anyone else (what number am I to ask that question)? |
| 20:03.06 | grep_awesome | it is down |
| 20:03.09 | grep_awesome | they are working on it |
| 20:03.32 | grep_awesome | and for the latter part, 6 or 7 |
| 20:09.13 | benklop | so what would make webos not dispaly icons for any apps but the built-in ones? |
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| 20:16.07 | benklop | i just realized the app catalog is missing too so i can't even try re-installing some apps |
| 20:17.20 | benklop | i'm really not sure how to go about even thinking about this |
| 20:20.13 | jcsullins | benklop: I think that can happen if the nduid doesn't get passed to the kernel from the bootloader (prob. other ways too) |
| 20:23.05 | jcsullins | benklop: can do a "cat /proc/cmdline" and see if a "nduid=<long-hex-string>" is there |
| 20:24.03 | benklop | there is an nduid there, but that is probably the right direction |
| 20:24.45 | dwc- | reboot? |
| 20:25.03 | jcsullins | benklop: well, if there is one there, I would think it is the correct one -- yeah, tried a reboot? |
| 20:25.21 | AtomicPlayboy | grep_awesome: thanks. |
| 20:25.22 | benklop | i have got cyanogenmod installed so i could use a netflix app, but it's been working fine for more than a week. i let the battery die this morning (running webos) and when it booted back up it didn't have any apps |
| 20:25.48 | benklop | yeah, i've tried a few reboots, i'm gonna see if cm7 installer kept a backup |
| 20:26.02 | dwc- | let the battery die... hmmm... |
| 20:26.15 | dwc- | how much stuff is in your /media/cryptofs/apps |
| 20:26.21 | benklop | yeah, left my charger at wortk |
| 20:26.24 | jcsullins | benklop: I don't think ACMEInstaller does any sort of backup - would have to do that yourself |
| 20:26.27 | dwc- | (potential fs damage?) |
| 20:26.45 | jcsullins | my bet is /media/internal got corrupted somehow |
| 20:26.53 | benklop | lets see.. that dir doesn't seem to exist :/ |
| 20:27.10 | dwc- | is there a /media/cryptofs mount? |
| 20:27.19 | benklop | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.05 | jcsullins | benklop: is there a LOST.DIR dir in /media/internal? |
| 20:28.31 | dwc- | try to mount the cryptofs and see what errors turn up |
| 20:28.46 | benklop | mount: can't find /media/cryptofs in /etc/fstab |
| 20:28.47 | dwc- | all the apps are stored in the cryptofs which is why they're not showing up |
| 20:28.55 | benklop | that makes a lot of sense |
| 20:29.21 | dwc- | it's not in fstab, I forget exactly how it's mounted... |
| 20:29.51 | benklop | i dont see a LOST.DIR |
| 20:30.06 | benklop | i've got a meeting to go to, i'll be back in a few |
| 20:30.06 | jcsullins | what about .palm dir? |
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| 20:43.18 | dwc- | mountcfs |
| 20:43.22 | dwc- | I think |
| 20:52.35 | jcsullins | mountcfs -s /media/internal/.palm/.cryptofs -m /media/cryptofs -k /media/internal/.palm |
| 20:57.49 | dwc- | mountall.sh doesn't seem to specify args |
| 20:57.59 | dwc- | maybe I'm looking at the wrong place |
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| 21:00.10 | jcsullins | dwc-: I got that from mountall.sh (in setup_cryptofs_one() ) |
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| 21:43.38 | dwc- | yes |
| 21:46.42 | rwhitby | should be up now |
| 21:49.37 | bnceo | it is. got it |
| 21:53.37 | bnceo | Wanted to make sure if there was a veer update besides the default version |
| 21:53.49 | bnceo | Just got my Veer back and it's a brand new phone. |
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| 22:01.31 | wrea | Only 2.1.2 officially |
| 22:03.30 | bnceo | yup. so i've heard |
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| 22:11.18 | dwc- | wrea: get your new veer yeT? |
| 22:11.47 | wrea | Yeah, last Monday |
| 22:13.43 | benklop | i'm back |
| 22:13.45 | benklop | :) |
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| 22:14.58 | benklop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.00 | benklop | :-/ |
| 22:16.08 | jcsullins | do a "ps -few | grep cryptofs" |
| 22:17.31 | benklop | all i get back is the grep process |
| 22:17.33 | benklop | root 6349 4659 0 16:17 pts/0 00:00:00 grep cryptofs |
| 22:19.40 | jcsullins | humm, maybe do a "dmesg | tail" add if any errors regarding cryptofs is in there ... |
| 22:20.18 | benklop | good idea |
| 22:22.43 | jcsullins | actually, "dmesg | grep cryptofs" might be better |
| 22:22.54 | benklop | [ 33.132215] /etc/init.d/mountall.sh: setup_cryptofs done <- is all thats in there |
| 22:23.02 | benklop | root@HPTouchPad:/# dmesg|grep -i crypto |
| 22:23.03 | benklop | [ 33.132215] /etc/init.d/mountall.sh: setup_cryptofs done |
| 22:24.04 | jcsullins | humm, could look and see if any errors just before that "setup_cryptofs" line ... |
| 22:25.57 | jcsullins | rwhitby: should the 'cryptofs' process be started by 'mountcfs'? |
| 22:26.41 | ka6sox-away | jcsullins, doesn't mountall.sh do that? |
| 22:27.24 | jcsullins | yeah, it seems that it should, but benklop is having trouble with it - trying to find cause ... |
| 22:27.51 | ka6sox-away | you only ever want to run mountall.sh during boot. |
| 22:27.57 | ka6sox-away | any other time it causes problems |
| 22:28.12 | ka6sox-away | and crypto fs is then controlled by storage.d |
| 22:28.45 | jcsullins | yeah - not running mountall.sh - just the mountcfs cmd (since doesn't seem to be mounting for him) |
| 22:29.48 | benklop | is there a way to verify that the contents of .palm are valid? |
| 22:29.52 | ka6sox-away | I don't remember if they add the fstab line or not. |
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| 22:30.12 | benklop | theres no line in fstab for cryptofs as far as I saw |
| 22:30.22 | jcsullins | ka6sox-away: where would u suggest looking for errors regarding failed cryptofs mounting? |
| 22:30.45 | ka6sox-away | syslog fairly early |
| 22:31.02 | ka6sox-away | since mountall.sh is early in the process after pivotroot. |
| 22:31.16 | benklop | just to verify, is /media/internal/.palm/=2ZCNHNPI=/=23SMXI===/=23GFWVIY=/=2ZCNHNIVQQZVSG3LSQCXQ====/=2ZKEHLYFKSVSSKAM7/=23KHWLOVQRJSAQJAD3VHQ====/=2ZCNHM===/=2YSCWFK5VSY======/=24STEI===/=25WHXNOVRUZRDMCIQ the sort of directory structure I should be seeing in .palm? |
| 22:31.35 | benklop | tons of folders with names like that |
| 22:31.43 | jcsullins | yeah, stuff like that is normal |
| 22:31.51 | benklop | ok, good :) |
| 22:32.02 | jcsullins | (it's encrypted) |
| 22:32.06 | benklop | just verifying. I probably could have just checked on my pre |
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| 22:46.16 | benklop | jcsullins: on my touchpad, /media/internal/.palm/.cryptofs looks to be 0 size, on my pre, it is 80 bytes, contsains cipher info |
| 22:47.37 | benklop | can anyone check the contents of this file on another touchpad? |
| 22:48.48 | jcsullins | mine is 80 bytes too (on touchpad) |
| 22:49.34 | benklop | ok, i'm assuming then it says cipher is blowfish, md=md5, blocksize 4096, salts 1 baseencodingversion 2 ? |
| 22:49.44 | benklop | does it have an empty line at the top too? |
| 22:50.05 | jcsullins | yes - I wonder if that file is only populated when the cryptofs is running correctly? |
| 22:50.37 | benklop | mountcfs --help says that is the mountsrc |
| 22:51.15 | benklop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.37 | benklop | im gonna try filling it in and see what happens |
| 22:51.43 | jcsullins | humm, that would suggest that it needs to be correct before mount, I guess -- could try putting that content in there and rebooting ... |
| 22:52.45 | benklop | where is the config file for moboot? i'd like to make webos the default |
| 22:53.26 | jcsullins | mount -o remount,rw /boot ; echo "webOS" >/boot/moboot.default |
| 22:53.51 | benklop | thankya |
| 22:54.03 | benklop | that did it |
| 22:54.11 | benklop | filled that file, all is peachy |
| 22:54.15 | jcsullins | got your apps back? |
| 22:54.17 | jcsullins | cool |
| 22:54.41 | dwc- | that's odd that it'd disappear |
| 22:54.48 | jcsullins | yes, it is |
| 22:54.52 | dwc- | might want to chkdsk that |
| 22:55.51 | dwc- | btw, where's the encryption key stored |
| 22:55.55 | benklop | yeah, i would, but how do I boot a touchpad such that that partition is not in use so I can? |
| 22:56.07 | benklop | i don't know how to enter single user mode :) |
| 22:56.16 | dwc- | put it in USB mode and check from a PC is probably simplest |
| 22:57.15 | benklop | ok, that works |
| 22:57.22 | benklop | so wierd that that file went away |
| 22:57.32 | benklop | well it didnt even go away it was just empty |
| 23:01.18 | benklop | running an fsck.vfat |
| 23:02.26 | ka6sox-away | benklop, if you are an alpha tester tailor can do a lot of this. |
| 23:03.37 | benklop | unfortunately i don't know what you mean, though i've been running the alpha build.. |
| 23:04.36 | ka6sox-away | ~beta |
| 23:04.36 | infobot | [BETA] Software undergoes beta testing shortly before it's released. Beta is Latin for "still doesn't work." When using beta software you should be aware its buggy and typically un-supported. you should read and understand how to identify bugs and how to file a proper bug report when using beta software |
| 23:04.42 | ka6sox-away | bleh |
| 23:04.46 | ka6sox-away | ~testing |
| 23:04.47 | infobot | [testing] done - but yes, further excursions will take place elsewhere |
| 23:04.51 | ka6sox-away | heh |
| 23:05.32 | ka6sox-away | testing.preware.org |
| 23:09.06 | dwc- | ~testing-feeds |
| 23:09.06 | infobot | [testing-feeds] a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://testing.preware.org - always use that URL and never copy any of the instructions anywhere else. |
| 23:09.15 | benklop | neato. i knew what the terms meant, but i wan't sure ehat you meant by being an alpha tester. do you mean one who installs alpha software then looks for issues that can be reported and fixed, not expecting software to be fully baked? if so then yes, if you mean a group of people specifically designated alpha testers, then no |
| 23:09.21 | dwc- | ~forget testing |
| 23:09.21 | infobot | dwc-: i forgot testing |
| 23:10.39 | benklop | alpha testing software on boxes I use for important stuff is my way of living life on the edge and being a daredevil. hang gliders and skydivers beware, I am just as extreme as you. |
| 23:11.39 | rwhitby | Tailor is in the alpha-apps feed, and can unmount partitions and check them. |
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| 23:16.39 | benklop | cool, that sounds really awesome. I believe i do have those feeds, so neat. |
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| 23:22.29 | benklop | i really thought taylor was a person |
| 23:24.14 | ka6sox-away | Tailor |
| 23:24.26 | benklop | ok, that might help |
| 23:25.01 | ka6sox-away | checks to see that he did not write taylor.... |
| 23:29.34 | benklop | i read it wrong |
| 23:29.36 | benklop | heh |
| 23:30.55 | ka6sox-away | benklop, as tired as I am...I could have easily typed taylor |
| 23:31.19 | benklop | i thought you were telling me basicvally "if you're part of the testing team then taylor will come down from wherever taylor's office is and fsck your partitions for you" in which case iwas thinking... huh. didn't know fsck was so hard, or that webos-internals could afford an underling to fsck for them... |
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| 23:33.14 | rwhitby | does his own fscking thank you |
| 23:33.57 | rwhitby | benklop: Tailor is in early alpha testing, but the filesystem checking should be benign enough |
| 23:38.24 | Tibfib_ | thought that was a typo. |
| 23:39.14 | dwc- | a typo for Tailah? |
| 23:40.04 | ka6sox-away | lashes both dwc- and Tibfib_ with yesterday's spaghetti |
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