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| 00:20.02 | Cache_ | Hey all. Unboxing a Touchpad. Any 'first step' advice? |
| 00:21.03 | threezero | set it up |
| 00:21.13 | threezero | use it for a few days before you go android |
| 00:21.17 | threezero | webos is really sumthing different |
| 00:21.21 | threezero | if u havn't use it before |
| 00:22.47 | Cache_ | I'm running a launch week Pre-, have Preware installed. Love WebOS, but WebOS 3.0 will be new to me. 3.04 that is. |
| 00:23.26 | bnceo | load it up. dev mode it |
| 00:23.27 | threezero | tp's 3.0 is the first experience i have with webos |
| 00:23.37 | threezero | i'm so sad hp fuck it up |
| 00:23.38 | bnceo | put uber kernal and some mojo patches and watch that thing fly |
| 00:23.42 | bnceo | oh and turn off logging |
| 00:24.02 | Cache_ | Xactly the advice I was looking for, Thx bnceo! Aces. |
| 00:24.22 | summatusmentis | make sure you upgrade it to 3.0.4 if it's not coming that way |
| 00:24.29 | bnceo | I've tried every tablet man and only iPad beats it on experience. Galaxy Tab is bleh. Transformer is the smoothest of them all |
| 00:24.51 | Cache_ | Dexedrine tabs were the best. |
| 00:26.18 | threezero | dexedrine? |
| 00:26.41 | threezero | ipad is great too bad it doesn't have flash |
| 00:26.52 | threezero | would have brought 1 in a heartbeat if it has flash |
| 00:27.04 | earthnative | personally, the lack of flash is one thing I think Jobs got 100% correct |
| 00:27.14 | Cache_ | Amphetamine tabs. Dated reference. |
| 00:27.30 | threezero | flash is slow and clunky |
| 00:27.31 | earthnative | hmm, I should look at UberKernel for my pre3 I suppose... :) |
| 00:27.33 | summatusmentis | I almost never use flash on my touchpad |
| 00:27.36 | threezero | outdated |
| 00:27.46 | threezero | but i watch streaming video alot |
| 00:27.55 | bnceo | loving HTML5 video more and more |
| 00:27.55 | threezero | and megavideo etc just wont give up flash |
| 00:28.13 | summatusmentis | mm |
| 00:31.02 | threezero | although i really enjoy the experience of tinkering with my touchpad |
| 00:31.40 | threezero | ubuntu + android + webos is sumthing ipad will never be able to do |
| 00:31.54 | threezero | although i havn't manage to get ubuntu set up on the tp yet |
| 00:49.47 | threezero | justin.tv isn't displaying properly for me |
| 00:49.58 | threezero | is there a fix. |
| 00:50.23 | threezero | use to be fine on cm7 now on a3 i can't scrolling down when I'm on a channel page |
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| 00:55.43 | dwc- | that sounds like an android problem ... |
| 01:01.00 | threezero | yea wrong place lol |
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| 01:27.49 | Freman | is it possible to get the wifi password out of this thing (even via xterm)? |
| 01:29.44 | dwc- | what wifi password out of what thing |
| 01:31.17 | Freman | wifi password out of my touchpad (I've forgotten what it is since setting it up and I cbf setting a new one) |
| 01:32.23 | dwc- | wep? iwconfig |
| 01:33.32 | Freman | wpa |
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| 02:34.25 | bnceo | anyone around? |
| 02:37.54 | wrea | wb LarrySteeze |
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| 03:10.36 | LarrySteeze | wrea: thanks |
| 03:10.53 | LarrySteeze | wrea: now if my website could just display images...maybe it'd welcome me back as well |
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| 06:17.35 | RPiatt | Hello... could I trouble you guys with a question on my Sprint Franken Pre2 transition? Won't go into USB Recovery mode... |
| 06:18.54 | RPiatt | I gues it is kinda late though... |
| 06:21.27 | RPiatt | tried both volume up and using the 'R' key 1000 times... no luck at all... |
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| 06:21.43 | dwc- | completely powered it off, right? |
| 06:21.59 | RPiatt | yes... |
| 06:22.02 | dwc- | wait, doesn't boot at all or boots up and ignores you |
| 06:22.21 | RPiatt | just hangs at the "no battery" icon |
| 06:22.39 | RPiatt | can't get into recovery mode at all... |
| 06:22.52 | dwc- | have you seen http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover |
| 06:23.00 | halfhalo | needs more power to get into recovery methinks |
| 06:23.58 | RPiatt | yes, but the device won't go into recovery mode... so that directs me to the emergency bootloader recovery page |
| 06:24.20 | RPiatt | It is plugged into the wall, not the PC |
| 06:24.40 | halfhalo | is the battery charged at all? |
| 06:25.04 | RPiatt | I have two of them, one charged to 100% the other to ~85% |
| 06:26.05 | threezero | can pre1 or pre2 do touch to share? |
| 06:26.12 | dwc- | no |
| 06:26.27 | RPiatt | now you have me wondering if I did in fact shut it completely down... |
| 06:26.45 | RPiatt | Let's assume Imistakenly did not... |
| 06:27.16 | halfhalo | pull the battery |
| 06:27.29 | RPiatt | Done. |
| 06:27.40 | dwc- | unplug from the wall |
| 06:27.48 | halfhalo | Thats what I always do for recovery mode. except on the veer. because its weird. |
| 06:27.49 | dwc- | (though it should do that on its own after the battery pull by now) |
| 06:27.49 | RPiatt | done |
| 06:29.44 | RPiatt | followed the steps outlined in the wiki... plug into the wall... battery icon appears... hold volume up... insert battery while still holding volume up... keep holding volume up until usb icon appears... |
| 06:29.59 | RPiatt | except the USB icon never shows up... |
| 06:30.40 | RPiatt | I am stumped... |
| 06:31.37 | RPiatt | I also posted a thread on precentral about it: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/308197-sprint-franken-pre2-wont-go-into-recovery-usb-mode.html |
| 06:33.42 | RPiatt | Anyone have any thoughts? |
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| 06:37.58 | RPiatt | Recap: swapped comm board from activated Sprint pre- into a Verizon Pre2. Won'g go into USB recovery mode. |
| 06:38.23 | RPiatt | Swapping radio back and starting process over to make I didn't miss anything... |
| 06:49.08 | RPiatt | Just swapped the verizon board back into the pre2 and it worked just fine... so the original Pre2 configuration works. No to put my sprint Pre- back together... |
| 06:58.54 | RPiatt | Just got the Sprint comm board back in the original Pre- and it is currently booting... No idea why this would work now... |
| 06:59.22 | RPiatt | "wouldn't" work, that is |
| 07:03.21 | wrea | rwhitby, no rush, but whenever you can, could you look over https://github.com/willrea/build. Focusing mostly on libdaemon, dbus, avahi and modules-0.9.22. |
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| 07:04.39 | wrea | I'd usually be on longer tonight, but im trying to fight off getting sick, so if you have suggestions just pm me |
| 07:06.51 | moo | rwhitby: please remove Company-Nick divider - Veer, CN ISO date format - Veer, Search Contacts in PinYin - Veer, Sort Contacts by PinYin - Veer, Chinese PinYin Framework - Veer, Sync Fix for Stable Upload - Veer. none of the patch/ipk is ever generated correctly |
| 07:07.50 | moo | and will never correct, if 2.1.2 is not a separate supported version by patches.webos-internals.org system |
| 07:10.22 | rwhitby | moo: done |
| 07:11.19 | rwhitby | wrea: first glance looks good |
| 07:12.28 | moo | thx |
| 07:18.43 | rwhitby | moo: next veer webOS version, we'll make it separate |
| 07:21.54 | moo | :) |
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| 07:23.34 | wrea | rwhitby, Good. :) I know I'll be having issues when trying to get avahi to work on 1.4.x devices |
| 07:29.42 | dwc- | knocks on wood |
| 07:32.20 | wrea | I had to remove the system.conf patch from palm to get the zeroconf and raop modules to load. So I'll need to figure out how to get it to work with the patch for the 1.4.x devices |
| 07:32.48 | wrea | Dunno why, looks like the patch would allow anything to connect |
| 07:40.56 | wrea | would also help if i had a 1.4.x device to test with |
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| 08:27.02 | fyodor_ | hi, i'm building custom kernel for hp veer device. but how can i build the wifi dhd.ko module? there seems no dhd module the stock kernel source? |
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| 08:28.18 | wrea | http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/2.1.2/dhd.tgz |
| 08:28.26 | wrea | http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/2.1.2/dhd-patches.gz |
| 08:29.33 | fyodor_ | wrea: thanks :) |
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| 08:34.31 | fyodor_ | wrea: the dhd.tgz is a patched package, right? |
| 08:35.28 | wrea | no, you'll need to apply the patche(s) in dhd-patches.gz |
| 08:36.08 | wrea | but since its a module if you just want to modify the kernel, you shouldnt need to mess with dhd |
| 08:36.27 | fyodor_ | wrea: patch -p1 < ../dhd-patches always returns 'Reverse' operation suggestion |
| 08:37.52 | fyodor_ | wrea: i just disabled the kernel debug in .config, veer boots with new kernel, wifi can't open now |
| 08:38.56 | dwc- | iirc, they messed that one up |
| 08:39.24 | fyodor_ | dmesg shows lots of 'unknown symbol xxx' msg if opening wifi |
| 09:01.58 | rwhitby | fyodor_: are you starting with a WebOS Internals kernel? |
| 09:04.08 | fyodor_ | rwhitby: not yet, i just make uImage on veer stock kernel |
| 09:05.04 | rwhitby | fyodor_: well, there are at least 3 examples of custom Veer kernels that work, and we didn't have to do anything special with dhd |
| 09:05.29 | rwhitby | so you might like to start with one of those - they are all built from the same source and build Makefiles |
| 09:06.43 | rwhitby | (note that a number of kernel modules are binary without source, so you don't want to be changing the ABI if you want those to work) |
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| 09:07.16 | rwhitby | (that's the most common mistake with folks building their own kernels - change a debug CONFIG symbol and binary modules no longer work) |
| 09:08.41 | fyodor_ | so the ABI should not be changed? i'm wondering to rebuild the kernel with debug msg enabled. |
| 09:09.47 | rwhitby | some CONFIG symbols can be changed, but be warned that some that you think you should be able to change with impunity will stop binary modules working |
| 09:10.23 | rwhitby | I would suggest starting from a working kernel compile, and then only changing one thing at a time. |
| 09:11.14 | rwhitby | points to http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Building_Apps_and_Kernels |
| 09:11.24 | fyodor_ | i built the android kernel with wifi module before, so i thought webos would be the same. :D |
| 09:11.52 | rwhitby | chuckles |
| 09:12.14 | wrea | so much for sleeping |
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| 09:12.20 | rwhitby | no knowledge or experience from android can be used in webOS, and vice versa. |
| 09:13.33 | rwhitby | bbl |
| 09:13.52 | fyodor_ | rwhitby: i'v checked the git of webos-internals, there are only kernel patches hosted on it, where is the whole kernel source tree? |
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| 17:15.03 | wrea | morning chuqui |
| 17:19.09 | dwc- | morning |
| 17:26.36 | Robi_ | mornin |
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| 19:06.56 | NuttyBunny | sconix: ping?? |
| 19:08.33 | sconix | NuttyBunny: jep |
| 19:09.02 | NuttyBunny | hey, do you have Pre3? |
| 19:09.43 | sconix | yep |
| 19:10.23 | NuttyBunny | cool, a spare one as well? to install the messaging plugins and figure out why the newly created accounts won't appear in the accounts list when you press the status button? :D |
| 19:10.53 | sconix | I am really swamped at the moment, otherwise I could try |
| 19:10.57 | NuttyBunny | I create a new account, but it doesn't appear. I've restarted the messaging app (jstop -> kill, restart), and nothing |
| 19:11.10 | sconix | I have almost none freetime during this week, next week I am back to normal life |
| 19:11.20 | NuttyBunny | hmmm... ok, I'll try to look into it :D |
| 19:11.28 | sconix | but doesn't it tell that something is missing from the account info |
| 19:11.36 | sconix | maybe compare them with impostah to those that are showing |
| 19:12.01 | NuttyBunny | right, thanks, will do that! :) |
| 19:12.15 | sconix | if you still need help next week then ping me again |
| 19:13.20 | NuttyBunny | ok, thanks :) |
| 19:21.40 | NuttyBunny | weird, they seem to be correctly defined, type MESSAGING, subtype IM |
| 19:27.01 | NuttyBunny | gonna reboot the phone :) .. brb |
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| 19:45.51 | NuttyBunny | sconix: argh, does appear in Pre2, does not appear in Pre3 :( (both use the messaging patches). I need someone with a virgin pre3 to test :D |
| 20:05.26 | NuttyBunny | updates all the patches in the Pre2, hoping to break the messaging plugins :D |
| 20:13.18 | NuttyBunny | Oh webOS gods, I summon you!!! Is there a luna-send command to force a messaging login to all accounts at once? |
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