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| 13:53.52 | zsoc | Like an obscenely long time ago sometime linked me to an online task management tool with a nifty user interface that kind of looked like a pinboard or blackboard. |
| 13:55.02 | RagingMind | cat irc.log | grep zsoc ? |
| 13:55.27 | zsoc | RagingMind: thought of it, different box and I lost the logs :/ |
| 13:55.38 | zsoc | also, I would fear to see how long that grep output would be |
| 13:55.44 | RagingMind | ah, well I have all my logs |
| 13:55.51 | RagingMind | do you know which channel? |
| 13:55.58 | zsoc | Plus I love coming in here and having good on topic conversations |
| 13:56.13 | zsoc | RagingMind: thank you for the offer.. but I'm not going to drive you nuts |
| 13:56.33 | zsoc | There's a possibility I misremembered even where it was. Although i thought it was destinal for some reason |
| 13:58.43 | zsoc | Ok so here's an interesting protip. If you actually just type random words into google that describe what you're looking for, you'll find it. |
| 13:58.50 | zsoc | For anyone's curiousity: Trello |
| 13:59.02 | zsoc | waits to be kicked for offtopic convo |
| 14:01.16 | RagingMind | you could be planning to use this tool for something webos related? :) |
| 14:24.35 | zsoc | sure |
| 14:24.38 | zsoc | lets say that |
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| 15:39.42 | dtzWill | zsoc: !!! you're alive :) |
| 15:40.06 | zsoc | dtzWill: oh hey bro, it would seem i am |
| 15:40.15 | zsoc | y'know it's not like none of you have my email address ;) lol |
| 15:40.44 | dtzWill | psh, why email when it's clearly your responsibility to be on IRC if you wanna be reached ;) :D |
| 15:41.15 | dtzWill | anyway, how're things going?? |
| 15:41.31 | dtzWill | giving trello a look, I sure wouldn't mind an improved task management interface |
| 15:41.48 | dtzWill | although doubtful i can ever get anyone i work with to use it (and as of yet, unclear that's a good idea) |
| 15:42.01 | dtzWill | can barely get them to use github, let alone an issue tracker |
| 15:45.29 | ka6sox | hiyz zsoc |
| 15:45.34 | ka6sox | hows kids? |
| 15:45.58 | zsoc | ka6sox: kid. doing good :) everything is good actually. Have a real job now doing things i'm good at lol |
| 15:46.06 | zsoc | dtzWill: ditto answer :p |
| 15:46.58 | dtzWill | zsoc: i see how it is! :) |
| 15:47.17 | zsoc | dtzWill: sorry my brain functions in reverse recursives :p |
| 15:49.34 | ka6sox | "real job" oh no....they captured you! |
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| 16:06.26 | zsoc | ka6sox: nah, it's remote and i drink beer whenever i want. and my boss delivers me pizza and chinese food |
| 16:06.55 | zsoc | and i just yell at people on skype and poke at the crm sometimes |
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| 16:07.08 | zsoc | and create incredibly complex and unreadable php methods for fun, and job security |
| 16:07.51 | ka6sox | zsoc, are you sure you aren't writing perl? |
| 16:08.28 | zsoc | ka6sox: is possible. they all seem the same these days |
| 16:09.20 | zsoc | ka6sox: the people i work with are so technologically impared, I actually started using yaml for anything too small for a database, so the config is human readable O.o |
| 16:09.44 | halfhalo | ... |
| 16:09.48 | halfhalo | I'm sorry |
| 16:10.29 | ka6sox | I rather like XML |
| 16:10.46 | halfhalo | Thats even worse |
| 16:13.02 | zsoc | yeah xml is a bit worse.. i guess json is the /actual/ solution, but i prefer a challenge |
| 16:14.40 | halfhalo | for like database config stuff yaml is great. Not sure about anything more complex though |
| 16:14.44 | zsoc | yaml parsing is actually a blast tho, it's like using an abacus |
| 16:14.55 | zsoc | instead of a calculator |
| 16:15.02 | halfhalo | Until you find an extra tab and space |
| 16:15.08 | zsoc | I'm not sure it's useful, but it makes you think about how things were done 300 years ago |
| 16:15.24 | zsoc | halfhalo: whitespace isn't a problem, i'm used to py :p |
| 16:15.40 | halfhalo | hah |
| 16:15.49 | zsoc | So... about Android 4 and the zoom out/recent apps you can swipe up, and the notifications you can swipe away |
| 16:15.55 | zsoc | still a crappy implementation, but they are getting there lol |
| 16:16.01 | halfhalo | I use yaml pretty much only with ruby/rails |
| 16:16.27 | zsoc | and whether recent apps stay in memory or not is 100% based on what the device thinks it has enough memory to keep. Which sucks because you're switch apps and when you switch back it will be reset :p |
| 16:17.04 | zsoc | my phone is like 8 times more powerful than a pre 2 and i swear i can't run 2 apps at once :p |
| 16:17.45 | halfhalo | Its android, what did you expect? |
| 16:18.38 | zsoc | i dunno, i guess i expected when a zillion people use it people with half a brain would make it work properly |
| 16:18.44 | zsoc | i guess making /anything/ work properly in java is just a silly idea |
| 16:18.51 | halfhalo | Yup. |
| 16:18.59 | zsoc | sad too |
| 16:19.04 | summatusmentis | zsoc: swipe up? |
| 16:19.08 | summatusmentis | how? |
| 16:19.09 | summatusmentis | where? |
| 16:19.09 | zsoc | i wonder if they will ever launch a new non-backwords compatible playform |
| 16:19.27 | zsoc | summatusmentis: when i hit my 'recent apps' key and it shows them all in a "card" like format, you can swipe them up to dismiss them |
| 16:19.33 | summatusmentis | right |
| 16:19.39 | zsoc | but you're not actually dismissing running apps, you're just dismissing them from the list |
| 16:19.48 | summatusmentis | I thought you meant there was a swipe gesture to get to that list |
| 16:19.51 | zsoc | ah no |
| 16:19.59 | summatusmentis | and they _might_ be running, is my understanding |
| 16:20.09 | zsoc | sure, maybe |
| 16:20.14 | summatusmentis | android lets apps run for a given period of time before killing them |
| 16:20.26 | zsoc | summatusmentis: afaict, it's not a time, it's a memory limit |
| 16:20.37 | zsoc | or rather after a certain amount from that app is GC'd it just closes it |
| 16:20.45 | zsoc | welcomes you to #android-internals |
| 16:20.50 | summatusmentis | ah, could be |
| 16:21.08 | zsoc | would be nice to raise or remove that limit.. but uh... android, heh |
| 16:21.15 | zsoc | lets make a custom image for a 1 line patch! yay |
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| 16:28.40 | summatusmentis | heh |
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