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| 00:55.16 | andrew__ | Does anyone know if its possible to metadoctor a sprint franken pre2 to an at&t pre2 (by switching out the comm board with a att pre+)? |
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| 00:55.24 | andrew__ | i went ahead and swapped the boards but it says that the doctor I built following the webosinternals guide isn't compatible with the phone connected |
| 00:55.41 | ShawnSnyder | guys what do i do this step with? "Finally, we need to edit the file. Use vi to open /usr/palm/applications/com.handson.app.nfl/appinfo.json" |
| 00:56.31 | andrew__ | shawn you |
| 00:56.49 | ShawnSnyder | ? |
| 00:56.49 | andrew__ | might want to refrence what you are trying to do as far as "step # what in what process" |
| 00:57.04 | ShawnSnyder | http://www.hadak.org/2009/07/29/remove-the-nfl-app-from-the-pre/#more-135 |
| 00:57.12 | ShawnSnyder | step 4 |
| 00:59.27 | andrew__ | do you have vi installed? |
| 00:59.38 | HaDAk | you rang? |
| 00:59.48 | ShawnSnyder | what vi? |
| 00:59.49 | ShawnSnyder | whats* |
| 00:59.55 | HaDAk | a text editor |
| 01:00.14 | ShawnSnyder | from? web or phone catalog? |
| 01:00.33 | andrew__ | for your computer |
| 01:00.42 | HaDAk | it's installed on your phone. use the cli. |
| 01:01.16 | ShawnSnyder | the wut. god i feel so stupid |
| 01:02.02 | HaDAk | command line interface. |
| 01:02.13 | ShawnSnyder | just type vi? |
| 01:02.21 | HaDAk | just type vi and the file you want to open |
| 01:02.23 | HaDAk | vi thefile |
| 01:02.55 | ShawnSnyder | inplace of the file i put the directory inside the palm? |
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| 01:03.29 | ShawnSnyder | thefile* |
| 01:04.04 | HaDAk | try again |
| 01:04.17 | HaDAk | also, my article is out of date, depending on what device you're working on. |
| 01:04.25 | ShawnSnyder | Palm Pixi Plus |
| 01:04.28 | HaDAk | if it's the touchpad, you'll need to look in /media/cryptofs |
| 01:04.32 | HaDAk | i don't know about a pixi. i don't own one. |
| 01:05.00 | andrew__ | wouldn't it just be easier to use novaterm to execute commands on the device? |
| 01:05.31 | HaDAk | that's the way i set it up |
| 01:06.04 | andrew__ | shawn i would recommend reading this: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Accessing_Linux_Using_Novaterm |
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| 01:07.41 | andrew__ | I'm guessing that nobody has any suggestions for my metadoctor issue? |
| 01:08.45 | ajguns | ok... |
| 01:11.25 | ShawnSnyder | GOT IT. thanks guys! very helpful |
| 01:13.11 | ShawnSnyder | is there a file manager to view files as root on my PC from within the phone. like view root pre files on my PC |
| 01:17.19 | HaDAk | no |
| 01:17.40 | HaDAk | although, technically you could install an ssh server and use winscp |
| 01:25.37 | ShawnSnyder | http://i.imgur.com/FIJc4.png it wont let me edit it now. cant type |
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| 01:28.11 | ShawnSnyder | i hit i and it wont go down stays at the top |
| 01:28.41 | andrew__ | in vi you need to hit : to enter edit mode |
| 01:28.56 | ShawnSnyder | :i? |
| 01:29.20 | andrew__ | http://www.cs.rit.edu/~cslab/vi.html |
| 01:29.26 | andrew__ | just : |
| 02:27.39 | rwhitby | andrew__: yes, it is possible to metadoctor a sprint franken pre2 to an at&t pre2 (by switching out the comm board with a att pre+) |
| 02:28.12 | rwhitby | but you will need to do some manual token manipulations to do so - I don't think there is a prewritten script for that scenario. |
| 02:35.42 | andrew__ | update: |
| 02:36.08 | andrew__ | i couldn't get it to run so I manually hard reset by doing power sym and orange |
| 02:36.27 | andrew__ | and the AT&T sim card worked without metadoctoring |
| 02:37.10 | andrew__ | it still is running the previous sprint franken pre2 metadoctor according to version number and is updating to 2.24 now |
| 02:37.22 | andrew__ | 3G and Phone/SMS are working |
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| 15:32.03 | madnificent | i notice that all webos devices i have consume *a lot* of energy when they're not certain which network they should connect to for data transfer. being 2G, 3G or wifi. if anyone wants to make a cool difference, it would be nice if the device wouldn't constantly try to discover what networks are out there, but only periodically do it (and perhaps when the device is turned on, dunno) |
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| 15:42.34 | ka6sox | madnificent, that isn't a webOS characteristic..its the same for ALL devices it seems. |
| 16:03.26 | madnificent | ka6sox: we should be able to change it, i believe. and i have the feeling that Android devices are less susceptible to the problem |
| 16:03.45 | madnificent | the word feeling is important in that sentence though |
| 16:04.50 | madnificent | it seems, at least in the GSM region, that places where the phone needs to switch between 2G and 3G consume a lot of power, same goes for wifi on/off. whilst it's quite ok if you only enable 2G and turn off wifi |
| 16:05.26 | ka6sox | how would you propose we do this? |
| 16:06.31 | madnificent | you can disable wifi and disable 3g. so i'd say that if it is connected to either system, all others are turned off for a (possibly configurable) amount of time (defaulting to a minute, or possibly a tad more) |
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| 16:18.57 | ka6sox | for existing webOS (3.0.5) we have no sources for this... |
| 16:19.19 | madnificent | mode-switcher can access te settings |
| 16:19.30 | ka6sox | I've not seen any indication of how we are going to support this at all (phone, wifi, bt control) |
| 16:19.34 | madnificent | so we should be able to access it, no? though that's not 3.0.5 |
| 16:19.52 | ka6sox | for OW |
| 16:20.56 | ka6sox | madnificent, a writeup on how to do this with modeswitcher or even a mod to modeswitcher would probably be accepted too :D |
| 16:20.59 | madnificent | i don't know what we can access there, i have no clue how close we are to running that on an actual phone which can call and all that, so i also don't have a clue how useful it'd be |
| 16:22.05 | madnificent | i don't think it's 'right' to solve it with mode-switcher. and i think mode-switcher lacks the primitive to try something every once in a while (which should be the simple part) |
| 16:22.53 | ka6sox | with OW its a clean slate...you can write an app that would implement this correctly :D |
| 16:23.29 | madnificent | ka6sox: i take my words back, mode-switcher can discover that a wifi network was found, not 2G/3G (but i'm certain we can check which mode we're using as it's shown in the upper-right corner) |
| 16:24.09 | madnificent | doesn't work on systems he can't access (if/when OW runs on something i own, chances are i'll look into it further) |
| 16:24.14 | madnificent | my question wasn't geared towards OW |
| 16:24.33 | ka6sox | ok |
| 16:25.01 | madnificent | (not trying to be a bitch about it, even though it sounds a tad harsh) |
| 16:27.43 | ka6sox | I wish you luck on getting this solved... |
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| 16:30.01 | bert0x | hi |
| 16:30.04 | bert0x | Can anyone help me to pass an argument to a button from another scene? |
| 16:30.33 | bert0x | newbie level O_o |
| 16:31.09 | bert0x | ares |
| 16:31.36 | madnificent | ka6sox: o wait, no. you got me wrong. it was something i considered to be an interesting feature to have. something that, when someone came along and saw the opportunity because they were working on the same code-base), could be interested in taking up. :) |
| 16:31.47 | madnificent | ka6sox: it's not something that's ruining my personal life or anything :) |
| 16:32.25 | madnificent | bert0x: i think #webos may be better suited to answer it. i don't really know anything about ares. |
| 16:32.27 | ka6sox | I see...so this is "something someone could fix...if they happen to want to"? |
| 16:32.35 | madnificent | ka6sox: check! |
| 16:32.45 | bert0x | thk! |
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| 16:33.04 | madnificent | ka6sox: and i'm interested in helping out with minor things in case that would happen, obviously. |
| 16:33.25 | madnificent | (i would try harder if i'd have the time, but i know that will not happen) |
| 16:33.39 | ka6sox | ok |
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| 19:31.07 | ShawnSnyder | can someone tell me why this didnt work? http://i.imgur.com/d1kCb.png |
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| 19:47.45 | sethron | Greetings |
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| 19:48.30 | sethron | Does anyone know how to bulk remove calendar entries in the 'undefined' state in a webOS 2.2.4 phone? I can use Impostah to remove them them 1 by 1. There's over 3,000 items I want to remove. http://pastebin.com/QhxdHzL5 |
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